Enclosed motorcycle racing trailer?

[Marknz]

All,

Looking for some ideas for an enclosed motorcycle trailer... something about the size of the Choppa 'M1 Motorsport one'. Are they custome made in NZ, or does someone make them as standard? What can I expect to pay?

I found this one this morning on Trademe... http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Trailers/Tandem-axle/auction-343835506.htm but baulked when I saw the price... or have I under-estimated the costs of such a venture?

Any advice welcome.

Cheers
Mark

[White trash]

If I had to hazard a guess I would say there'd be little change from 20K for one similar to M1 motorsports trailer to be built. I have a friend whos sons race MotoX, he's had a BIG 20 foot fucker built with kitchen unit and water tank, lights, the works.

No fucken idea what it cost but it'd be heaps.

[Quasievil]

I got a quote for $8600 + gst for a enclosed trailer from Kiwi Trailers, it had lots of bell n whistles, tandem axle also, so $6 k would be about right for this one.
$20k is not likely unless it was super stupid big..........silly trashy

[Ocean1]

I found this one this morning on Trademe... http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Trailers/Tandem-axle/auction-343835506.htm but baulked when I saw the price... or have I under-estimated the costs of such a venture?

Yes. That's not too bad for what you get.

If you want to scare yourself some more go see Halcrow Engineering in Naenae.

If that don't scare you then give me a call.

[marty]

get a curtain sider - 5 tonne one. easy to set up as a nice cool workshop and elevated viewing platform. there's a couple of BMX families with them and they are awesome.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Trucks/Curtain-sider/auction-327680705.htm

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Trucks/Curtain-sider/auction-317658137.htm

or you could go fucking silly:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/24-car-hauler-enclosed-motorcycle-cargo-trailer-26-/160524793540?pt=Motors_Trailers&hash=item256005f6c4

[wharfy]

All,

Looking for some ideas for an enclosed motorcycle trailer... something about the size of the Choppa 'M1 Motorsport one'. Are they custome made in NZ, or does someone make them as standard? What can I expect to pay?

I found this one this morning on Trademe... http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Trailers/Tandem-axle/auction-343835506.htm but baulked when I saw the price... or have I under-estimated the costs of such a venture?

Any advice welcome.

Cheers
Mark

for $6000 you could get a van, same price as a car for ferry travel

[Daffyd]

Look on T/M for a furniture trailer.

[ellipsis]

....Im about to cut a big door in the back of a 14 ft caravan...be ready to roll for under 2.5 k...

[Billy]

....Im about to cut a big door in the back of a 14 ft caravan...be ready to roll for under 2.5 k...

Yip,Just finished doing the same to a 10ft caravan,Not something I would recommend just anybody doing though,Caravans are prone to having rusted chassis as they sit around for years on end in long grass,I was lucky enough to find one that somebody had just put a brand new duragalv chassis under,Being a coachbuilder was helpful as well.

[Drew]

I've always wondered why more of us don't just get horse floats.

[Maha]

I've always wondered why more of us don't just get horse floats.

Old/2nd hand ones smell of horse shit and....
Who can afford a knew one?

[Drew]

Old/2nd hand ones smell of horse shit and....
Who can afford a knew one?Shit wipes off.

[marty]

some other BMX families have got Alpaca floats. They're a bit lower & lighter than horse flo I built a purpose BMX trailer to carry 10 bikes without pulling them apart about 10 years ago - cost me $3k way back then. It easily takes a Hayabusa on its side stand, or a race 4 wheel bike, or 2 x race go carts (stacked), or 2 x P-class/Q-class yachts, or multiple plastic kayaks, or a couple of race bikes on upright stands, or as is my child's want at the moment, 2 x single or double rowing race skiffs.

[ellipsis]

...we...country boys...used a big old D4 horse carrier to cart our flat-trackers about the place...shared it with the horses...I used to dread pulling the short straw and having to ride in the back...

[Dreama]

I've got a purpose built race trailer that I'll sell. Single axle, brakes, needs a paint job but made by engineers for engineers (me):yes:
It's compact, light and tows really well. Has separate front compartments for tyres etc, all lockable.

[Maha]

Shit wipes off.

I considered that as a 'mair' oversight....:corn:

[rwh]

2 x P-class/Q-class yachts

Q-class? Just looked them up, they seem to be around 50 feet long, from the 1920s ...

Richard

[BMWST?]

what about this (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Trailers/Single-axle/auction-339870385.htm)?

[MSTRS]

Get in touch with Vince Burrell (races a charcoal coloured 850 MotoGuzzi) or FroggyFrenchman on KB. They collaborated and built a covered trailer that doubles as a sleeper etc. Maybe one of them can help with the design/costings. Or if you pay them enough, even build another for you?

[marty]

Q-class? Just looked them up, they seem to be around 50 feet long, from the 1920s ...

Richard

You're right. I meant Optimist. Has a Q-like symbol on the sail.

[rwh]

You're right. I meant Optimist. Has a Q-like symbol on the sail.

:) I thought you might (it's O and I superimposed - Optimist International)

Richard

[Biggles08]

I've got a purpose built race trailer that I'll sell. Single axle, brakes, needs a paint job but made by engineers for engineers (me):yes:
It's compact, light and tows really well. Has separate front compartments for tyres etc, all lockable.

$$$ and pics?

[CHOPPA]

Ours was $6300 brand new...

[Pumba]

I am following with interest, as this may be something I have to look at in the very near future if I have to sell my ute.

Any chance of any photos of these trailers?

[DMack]

Price looks about on the money. Mine cost me around $7k, double axle, braked, rear tilt door, whole side hinges up as well with gas struts (recommend this as doubles as canopy roof for raining or hot days).

[Drew]

There must be cheaper ways to do it.

A second hand tandem trailer and some steel, and a WHOLE lot of fibre glass sounds like me.

[jellywrestler]

I paid $4500 for an old 97 transit ambulance, takes two race bikes and could be modified to take three without a huge amount of travel.
good to travel in and sleep too.
Was gonna call it 'the shaggin waggin' but decided since it's not the 1970's anymore it can be called 'the fuck truck'

[froggyfrenchman]

Get in touch with Vince Burrell (races a charcoal coloured 850 MotoGuzzi) or FroggyFrenchman on KB. They collaborated and built a covered trailer that doubles as a sleeper etc. Maybe one of them can help with the design/costings. Or if you pay them enough, even build another for you?

First point - no i dont want to build anyone a trailer. Just getting that out there...

Things to consider... Yes buying a large covered in trailer is an expencive excercise, but dont think that building one will be cheap. The cost of materials alone is huge. I have built a few for people in the past, and have found the following combination to give you the best bang for your buck. Vinces trailer cost about $5k with all materials at cost and no labour bills. From memory its about 3m long, 1.9m high and 1.9m wide.

1. Dont start from scratch, buy a $1000 trailer with a deck the aproximate size you want your floor area to be. Make sure its rust free and the running gear is in good nick. You cant get your project to this point for under a grand easily when you start from scratch.

2. Use furniture tube for the framing, (1.4 or 1.6mm wall) This stuff is way stronger than most people give it credit for and a lot chaeper than buying 3mm or 5mm wall tube. I tend to use a combination of 25x25 and 50x25. The trailer i built for Vince used about $600 of tube at supplier cost, so around a grand retail.

3. I use allupanel to clad my trailers, its basically a plastic core with thin alluminuim on both sides, its very light, very strong and comes pre painted in car quality paint. Comanys like Axis Routed Solutions in Hastings will happily supply it to you already cut to every size and shape you are going to need. This stuff can be about $200 a sheet, cladding is one of your biggest costs.

4. Dont go cheap on the finishing. Details like flush mounted led lights, flip down bunks/benches, flaps in the sides and quality tie points and hinges/hardware are what will make the difference to you when it comes time to re sell. An extra $1000 at this point could earn you $3000 at sell time.

Personally, i dont like big box trailers, i prefur something small and light that wont double my fuel bill. Would be nice to have somewhere dry to sleep though. For the money, i would buy a van to sleep in and tow my small trailer.

[Kickaha]

I paid $4500 for an old 97 transit ambulance, takes two race bikes and could be modified to take three without a huge amount of travel.
good to travel in and sleep too.


Also a lot cheaper if you're traveling between the North and South Islands

[Danger Dave]

I just brought a enclosed go kart trailer to use for the bikes, got it for $2200 and it fits two gsxr 1000 or two motox bikes and all the gear that goes with them, it also has a side awning to set up and keep out of the sun (or rain at manfield), all i had to do to it was fit a couple of wheel chooks and some more tie down points.

[Weaver]

If I took my racing more seriously I'd by a high top Transit van like this one http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Ford/Transit/auction-340362631.htm, but only because I don't want to tow.


However you've asked about trailers. I would go with a used horse float. They don't smell like shit, have heaps of room and often large storage compartments.
Pull up the wooden slat floors and put down a sheet of ply wood, add a few tie down points and you have a simple setup ready to go.
You could then add a mezzanine floor of sorts that would sit right up inside against the roof and can could be lowered down onto some stops that sit just above the bikes and be used a bed.