View Full Version : Unfortunately, his injuries are not life threatening
marty
2nd January 2011, 10:16
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10697430
steve_t
2nd January 2011, 10:41
High speed, no helmet, non life threatening?
FJRider
2nd January 2011, 10:47
No brain to damage ... :facepalm:
Might have a few nice scars to show for it though ... :innocent:
Drew
2nd January 2011, 11:06
Get fucked to all hypocrites!
Everyone does things they know are potentially dangerous. The guy is obviously a moron, but to say it's unfortunate that he's not in a terminal condition is fuckin weak, low, gutless, and the kind of attitude that gets people killed in bar fights.
I've got more time for the guy riding than the likes of you Marty, and would offer him more assistance in anyway that I could.
COCK!
hellokitty
2nd January 2011, 11:10
Why would someone ride without a helmet? Especially at high speed? :gob:
Really, you do have a responsibility to your family and loved ones to take basic precautions - and no I am not saying the guy deserved it, because obviously he didn't, and bad mouthing him isn't going to help the situation is it?
But FFS wear a helmet - it is the most basic part of motorcycle saftey gear!
steve_t
2nd January 2011, 11:12
High speed, no helmet, non life threatening?
What I'm saying is that the "high speed" reporting sound a bit like media hyperbole to me.
Drew
2nd January 2011, 11:24
What I'm saying is that the "high speed" reporting sound a bit like media hyperbole to me.
I was thinking the same thing. How fast can you be going if ya don't bang your squash a few times when ya come off?
MSTRS
2nd January 2011, 11:34
Hmmm...the media NEVER get details wrong, do they?
Were you there, Marty? Do you know something the rest of us don't? I actually took you to be more intelligent than that...
rwh
2nd January 2011, 11:37
What I'm saying is that the "high speed" reporting sound a bit like media hyperbole to me.
Especially if by McGrath Road they actually mean Magrath Ave (closest I could find in Paraparaumu) - anything above about 40 could be considered high speed, from what it looks like on street view. It does look like the sort of place one might take a bike for a quick test ride after fixing it - at Twin Cam Motorycycles, for example. I imagine it could be regular practice for a mechanic.
Richard
marty
2nd January 2011, 12:21
holy shit there's some vitriol on here.
if i went riding 'at high speed' (or at all actually) without a helmet and fell off, i would expect criticism to be rained down.
if the guy had have died, having fallen from his bike without wearing a helmet, and he died from head injuries, you would all be saying good fucking job.
IF he was sober, and pootling over to the next door neighbours at 5km/h and fell off, then i will leave KB.
Paul in NZ
2nd January 2011, 12:29
Hmm! Went past there and saw the hi vis vests and stuff around about twin cam m/c's and the helio going over when we got home. Didnt put the two together. I suspect theres a bit more of a story in there some place but I doubt you could get up to any major speed around there. Its pretty short, not overly straight with rather uncertain seal.
Dont want to wish hurt on anyone really and to be fair I've serviced the bike and run up and down the drive to check things, I suppose anythings possible...
Paul in NZ
2nd January 2011, 12:31
IF he was sober, and pootling over to the next door neighbours at 5km/h and fell off, then i will leave KB.
Theres really only business's down there and a rest home.... Even if you are wrong - dont leave, reality has a nasty habit of making fools of the best of us....
Virago
2nd January 2011, 12:31
holy shit there's some vitriol on here...
The most vitriolic part of the thread is your own thread title.
Regardless of the (unknown) circumstances, the guy is obviously an idiot. But wishing him dead on the strength of it?
onearmedbandit
2nd January 2011, 12:33
Get fucked to all hypocrites!
Everyone does things they know are potentially dangerous. The guy is obviously a moron, but to say it's unfortunate that he's not in a terminal condition is fuckin weak, low, gutless, and the kind of attitude that gets people killed in bar fights.
I've got more time for the guy riding than the likes of you Marty, and would offer him more assistance in anyway that I could.
COCK!
Hear fucking hear!
Katman
2nd January 2011, 12:40
I think my delivery's better.
Brian d marge
2nd January 2011, 14:59
and there is me thinking it was Nick smith
Stephen
whose has never ridden at high speed .... without a helmet ... not that 270 odd is exactly high speed :facepalm::innocent:
Conquiztador
2nd January 2011, 15:38
I rode for years w/o helmet when it was legal. Then the law chaged. Someone decided that we were not able to make decisions for our selves and suddenly it was a legal requirement to have helmet. Apperently in the instant I jumped on my bike w/o a helmet I would be fatally injured. At those days it was still legal to ride w/o helmet in Italy. And so, every Northern summer, I would travel to Italy to ride w/o helmet. To my surprise I did not die, I did not even end up brain damaged!
This confused me hugely: Either I was not doing it right as I did not die, or the propaganda was wrong...
Today I still ride w/o helmet on the beach. I take my kids for a ride and we do many k's as I have concluded that my riding is what determines if I will get hurt or not. Not if I have a helmet on my head.
Re the unfortunate chap: The heading of this thread is clearly a troll. No human being could ever wish a stranger death because he has made a mistake. That would just be so low and mean. It would clearly say more re the writer than the unfortunate injured rider.
Me, I wish him speedy full recovery as somewhere there is someone who loves him, needs him and who's life will never be the same if he dies.
The Everlasting
2nd January 2011, 16:31
I hope he makes a speedy recovery,I don't know why anyone would wish him dead because he made a mistake and rode without a helmet,he may have just popped down the road to take the bike for a quick test etc....
LBD
2nd January 2011, 17:16
No MORE brain to damage ... :facepalm:
Phrase corrected for you....
jafar
2nd January 2011, 18:22
In most states of the USA wearing a helmet is NOT compulsory, it is only in nanny states like NZ that wearing a helmet is compulsory!!!:yes:
I really don't see how this guys decision to ride a short distance without a helmet makes him anything more than unfortuanate due to his falling off.
As there is a bike shop in the street it is a fair guess that he was doing a quick test ride on a side street, I know I have been guilty of doing the same thing & will do it again.
:scooter:
Mudfart
2nd January 2011, 18:38
yeah i have been reading stories on here of people getting their brains mashed by moving their bikes around their properties without a helmet on. simply sitting on their bikes, starting it to move it off the driveway, and falling over.
its not hard to hit your head on the concrete and get absolutely fucked.
thats why fighting is considered dangerous. if you knock someone out who was standing, its a long fall for their head to the concrete, and they cant protect themselves in the fall coz they are unconcious.
Kickaha
2nd January 2011, 18:58
I really don't see how this guys decision to ride a short distance without a helmet makes him anything more than unfortunate due to his falling off.
That would depend on why he fell off
There is only something like 3 states that don't have compulsory helmet laws, the rest it generally goes by age groups
Shadows
2nd January 2011, 19:00
Unfortunately, his injuries are not life threatening
Go around with that kind of attitude and you'll get yours eventually.
scumdog
2nd January 2011, 19:09
That would depend on why he fell off
There is only something like 3 states that don't have compulsory helmet laws, the rest it generally goes by age groups
And ability to pay personal insurance to cover injuries that might occur when crashing without a helmet. (Lots of $$$)f
jafar
2nd January 2011, 19:09
That would depend on why he fell off
There is only something like 3 states that don't have compulsory helmet laws, the rest it generally goes by age groups
True it would depend on why he fell off, I'm assuming he was test riding & had an oops as the road in question is a side road with a bike shop on it.
My understanding of the U.S law is that it is approx 15 of the lower 48 states that have some kind of helmet law , the rest don't.
Mom
2nd January 2011, 19:25
I am an ATGATT person. Infact there will be posts on here where I have expressed strong opinion on how I feel about people that dont subscribe to ATGATT. I am however of the opinion that you have to take responsibility for your own actions, and what you chose to wear is none of my business.
I struggle sometimes with my ATGATT stance, and my total belief in freedom to do as we will. If push comes to shove, I will defend the right of anyone that choses to wear less than what I think is appropriate. I will however still stand strong on good gear.
I have never wished someone dead. I would like to think that the OP has expressed himself badly.
It was a very badly expressed thought. How would anyone think it ok to say...
"Unfortunately, his injuries are not life threatening"
Smifffy
2nd January 2011, 19:34
Y'all are forgetting that the OP was trained in law enforcement. Ergo he can say anything he likes in any manner he likes and the problem will be with YOUR interpretation of it. He will always be right.
It's just how it is.
He's probably so indoctrinated that he truly believes that since the unfortunate rider didn't get a ticket, the only other possible outcome is death.
scumdog
2nd January 2011, 19:43
Y'all are forgetting that the OP was trained in law enforcement. Ergo he can say anything he likes in any manner he likes and the problem will be with YOUR interpretation of it. He will always be right.
It's just how it is.
He's probably so indoctrinated that he truly believes that since the unfortunate rider didn't get a ticket, the only other possible outcome is death.
Poor topic to troll on...
Smifffy
2nd January 2011, 19:48
Poor topic to troll on...
True enough, tell that to the OP.
miloking
2nd January 2011, 20:05
Y'all are forgetting that the OP was trained in law enforcement. Ergo he can say anything he likes in any manner he likes and the problem will be with YOUR interpretation of it. He will always be right.
It's just how it is.
He's probably so indoctrinated that he truly believes that since the unfortunate rider didn't get a ticket, the only other possible outcome is death.
We should all realy feel sorry for them and for what govt/police academy made out of them....dont forget that all cops used to be PEOPLE once!!!
steve_t
2nd January 2011, 20:08
We should all realy feel sorry for them and for what govt/police academy made out of them....dont forget that all cops used to be PEOPLE once!!!
Are you guys really gonna turn this into another cop bashing thread?:facepalm:
Smifffy
2nd January 2011, 20:23
No, not at all, I'm not the one wishing somebody dead.
I hope that the rider concerned will make a full recovery, will be able to return to work and riding, and will reconsider his riding habits.
I'm trying to understand what would cause the OP to leap to the conclusions and make the statements he did. I believe much of it is related to the company line he used to follow.
miloking
2nd January 2011, 20:24
Are you guys really gonna turn this into another cop bashing thread?:facepalm:
All it deserves realy...
i mean yeah sure that dude was stupid for falling off and not wearing the helmet, but wishing him dead just because it cost tax payer bit of money for helicopter ride and some bandages is pretty harsh! ...i mean government wastes way more of OUR money in much more stupid ways...
Headbanger
2nd January 2011, 20:27
Why would someone ride without a helmet? Especially at high speed? :gob:
Its awesome.
scumdog
2nd January 2011, 20:27
All it deserves realy...
Off to P.D I guess........
Drew
2nd January 2011, 20:44
Off to P.D I guess........
Fuck I hope so, been ages since any of my posts have been in there and I've really been trying!
Mom
2nd January 2011, 20:52
Fuck I hope so, been ages since any of my posts have been in there and I've really been trying!
You are so full of shit Drew...
You have not been trying hard enough :whocares:
Smifffy
2nd January 2011, 20:52
IF it was a mechanic on a test run, I wonder if the DOL will prosecute for not 'taking all practicable steps'.
hellokitty
2nd January 2011, 20:53
Its awesome.
I am sure it is awesome. You are obviously lucky enough to have never had a head injury? ( or perhaps you have had one :gob: )
I know from my experience I would never want another head injury. I was lucky, I didn't have too much lasting damage. I sure as hell would not put myself at risk by not wearing a helmet.
And yes I know you can get killed crossing the road etc etc. But why put yourself at risk when you can wear the appropriate gear and surely lessen the risk.
Pussy
2nd January 2011, 21:00
For 17 years, up until last May, I was a topdressing pilot. There is NO law that says you MUST wear a flying helmet when you are engaged in agricultural flying (except when flying the Transavia PL12.. it's a requirement in the flight manual). There have been many pilots killed by a relatively insignificant knock to the head in an otherwise survivable accident. I flew for about a year without a flying helmet.... was WAY more comfortable.
So, marty, don't be a wanker and wish things like that on other people unless you wear a helmet every time you fly an aeroplane. You were fucken childish
Headbanger
2nd January 2011, 21:04
I am sure it is awesome. You are obviously lucky enough to have never had a head injury? ( or perhaps you have had one :gob: )
I know from my experience I would never want another head injury. I was lucky, I didn't have too much lasting damage. I sure as hell would not put myself at risk by not wearing a helmet.
And yes I know you can get killed crossing the road etc etc. But why put yourself at risk when you can wear the appropriate gear and surely lessen the risk.
Whose to say its up to you to draw the line for other people?
Bikes are dangerous, How do you appreciate the efforts of those people that have worked so hard to get us off the road?
Just lesson the risk you say?..so do they.
Kickaha
2nd January 2011, 21:46
Its awesome.
Don't lie, it's fucking shit, bugs hurt when they hit you, your eyes water like fuck unless you've got googles, it's actually pretty fucken crap and good fun at the same time
(except when flying the Transavia PL12.. it's a requirement in the flight manual)
Transylvanian death truck?
allycatz
3rd January 2011, 10:28
Mc Grath Ave is a tiny short street, the bike shop in question is also home base to a social club. Knowing the guys there it was more likely a spur of the moment thing...there just isnt the distance outside the shop to ride at great lengths at speed
terbang
3rd January 2011, 11:12
A lot of yanks don't wear helmets, mind you a lot do fuck themselves up badly too. But they have a choice as in many parts of USA its not the law. I've ridden over there without a helmet and it was OK, but the bugs smashing into my face really did hurt and when it rained it was unbearable. Not really my scene and in some ways it reeks of nothing more than bravado.
On a recent accident where I came off at a mere 70KPH, I clearly remember (from inside) hearing my helmet bouncing down the road. The helmet now has many deep gouges and scrapes that would have looked a lot uglier if they were on my face and head (yeah I know debatable).
In this case the rider had no choice, it is the law and he broke it. There is also lots of evidence out there (and just a bit of common sense) to indicate that it was a stupid choice as well.
Not the type of person that I would want to represent my recreation.
Mudfart
4th January 2011, 10:31
question for you people who have ridden in USA, in the states that have optional helmet law.
What was the approx percentage of helmet vs non helmet wearing riders you saw?
hellokitty
4th January 2011, 10:44
I wonder how it works with medical insurance in America, if you choose not to wear a helmet? Would your medical insurance still cover your accident?
If you can't pay for your treatment what happens then?
terbang
4th January 2011, 11:04
question for you people who have ridden in USA, in the states that have optional helmet law.
What was the approx percentage of helmet vs non helmet wearing riders you saw?
Well it went like this: Visiting a mate up in Connecticut, he hauls a couple of Harleys out of his shed and suggests we take a couple of days out riding. We were to catch up with a bunch of blokes to go bowling and boozing in a place called Stafford.
"Cool, umm what helmet can I wear?"
Stunned silence ...
"I don't have any helmets and never have had one!"
A bit more rummaging in the shed and a pair of boots and a denim jacket materialize.
"here wear these, I wouldn't be seen dead with a guy wearing shoes and a sweat shirt"
Along the way we came across lots of riders and none of them were wearing helmets apart from a couple of sport bike riders. Strange indeed, but the way they are.
scumdog
4th January 2011, 12:18
question for you people who have ridden in USA, in the states that have optional helmet law.
What was the approx percentage of helmet vs non helmet wearing riders you saw?
Hmm, hard to say less than 50% with helmets but how much hard to say as different states had different rules..so the ratio varied depending where I was.
Smifffy
4th January 2011, 12:40
Hmm, hard to say less than 50% with helmets but how much hard to say as different states had different rules..so the ratio varied depending where I was.
I actually saw very few bikes, and commented as such to the Moll. The bikes I saw on the interstates & highways (speed limit 60-70 MPH) almost always had helmets on.
The posers idling through the french quarter, and idling past the cafes on the North shore lakeside were sans helmet. It was winter so all had jackets (maybe another reason so few bikes at the time?), most had boots & gloves.
gammaguy
4th January 2011, 13:37
High speed, no helmet, non life threatening?
thats because he was brain dead before he started:facepalm:
Drew
4th January 2011, 17:34
thats because he was brain dead before he started:facepalm:
Yeah, heaps more facts have been released and now is a loads better time to condemn the guy for something you know NOTHING about.
racefactory
4th January 2011, 18:27
Get fucked to all hypocrites!
Everyone does things they know are potentially dangerous. The guy is obviously a moron, but to say it's unfortunate that he's not in a terminal condition is fuckin weak, low, gutless, and the kind of attitude that gets people killed in bar fights.
I've got more time for the guy riding than the likes of you Marty, and would offer him more assistance in anyway that I could.
COCK!
Totally agree, too many of these cunts on KB. Get fucked you lot that always seem to think your above the rest.
piston broke
4th January 2011, 19:36
I actually saw very few bikes, and commented as such to the Moll. The bikes I saw on the interstates & highways (speed limit 60-70 MPH) almost always had helmets on.
The posers idling through the french quarter, and idling past the cafes on the North shore lakeside were sans helmet. It was winter so all had jackets (maybe another reason so few bikes at the time?), most had boots & gloves.
well that makes sense.
i too would go without a skidlid if allowed.
that is,putting around town.
of course, one would be extra extra careful.
that is if you can be more careful than treating everyone like they are hunting you
Pixie
4th January 2011, 22:55
What I'm saying is that the "high speed" reporting sound a bit like media hyperbole to me.
The media,cops,polies and Mr & Mrs kiwi drone consider 115 km/hr to be "high speed" because they have been totally brainwashed
Pixie
4th January 2011, 22:59
I wonder how it works with medical insurance in America, if you choose not to wear a helmet? Would your medical insurance still cover your accident?
If you can't pay for your treatment what happens then?
If the State laws allow riders to go without a helmet,the insurance companies can't force riders to wear them.They can choose not to offer a policy or to demand a high premium.
Rhys
4th January 2011, 23:16
The media,cops,polies and Mr & Mrs kiwi drone consider 115 km/hr to be "high speed" because they have been totally brainwashed
there is a time and a place for speed 200km on a track no problem 130 km on a clear m/way no problem
60 km out side a school a 3 o'clock not a good
gammaguy
5th January 2011, 04:45
Yeah, heaps more facts have been released and now is a loads better time to condemn the guy for something you know NOTHING about.
since i am a new zealand taxpayer,also a payer of ACC levies,i have every right to an opinion,since i am in part paying for this idiot to ride,then crash,without a helmet.
i condemn him for riding without a helmet in the first place,having a crash only makes it worse.
onearmedbandit
5th January 2011, 07:59
since i am a new zealand taxpayer,also a payer of ACC levies,i have every right to an opinion,since i am in part paying for this idiot to ride,then crash,without a helmet.
i condemn him for riding without a helmet in the first place,having a crash only makes it worse.
You condemn him? Really?
Banditbandit
5th January 2011, 11:23
since i am a new zealand taxpayer,also a payer of ACC levies,i have every right to an opinion,since i am in part paying for this idiot to ride,then crash,without a helmet.
i condemn him for riding without a helmet in the first place,having a crash only makes it worse.
Shit ... I was riding bikes before helmet laws were compulsory ... and we all objected to having to wear them ...
How attitudes have changed ..
scumdog
5th January 2011, 12:54
Shit ... I was riding bikes before helmet laws were compulsory ... and we all objected to having to wear them ...
How attitudes have changed ..
Kinda the same thing with cars & seat-belts eh!
skippa1
5th January 2011, 18:44
Totally agree, too many of these cunts on KB. Get fucked you lot that always seem to think your above the rest.
:niceone: Cant disagree with any of that.
gammaguy
6th January 2011, 01:09
You condemn him? Really?
im pretty sure my words were not ambiguous
onearmedbandit
6th January 2011, 07:47
im pretty sure my words were not ambiguous
Oh you are right, there was no understanding. Just I never hear much of people 'condemning' others, especially when the facts are not known...
baptist
6th January 2011, 16:37
Wow great language guys, this thread in places reads like a class from Neanderthal finishing school!!!!:facepalm:
Personally I agree that people should wear protective gear all the time, however it is his skin, and depending on what the circumstances are would depend on whether I would consider the poor guy a plonker or just unlucky... for example if he was showing off and riding like a fool infront of mates then he is a plonker, if as some have suggested (it does not seem to be certain yet) he was just testing a bike after doing a repair then poor guy, might have done it a thousand times with no mishap.
What ever the circumstances however the facts remain that he is a human being and part of someones family and as such who are we to condemn him or wish him dead, he was only riding a bike for goodness sake not trying to destroy the world...
terbang
6th January 2011, 16:45
Personally I agree that people should wear protective gear all the time, however it is his skin,
Well it is his skin, however we all pay to repair it!
In New Zealand it is us the tax payers who have to foot the bill to repair those who choose not to wear safety gear.
baptist
6th January 2011, 16:58
Well it is his skin, however we all pay to repair it!
In New Zealand it is us the tax payers who have to foot the bill to repair those who choose the right not to wear safety gear.
Very true, but in this case lets wait to see the circumstances, and as I said if he was just doing a test, well corners can and do get cut... I think I will still wait until all the facts are in
As for ACC they have us all :buggerd: anyway, maybe a better and cheaper? albeit extremely harsh system (and not one in keeping with the original idea of the system), would to to assess the safety gear being worn in an accident and if it was not up to "an approved standard" maybe the rider should be required to pay back a certain percentage of the cost of their treatment (if they survive)...:doh: :shit: and maybe I should not say things like that on here:shutup::innocent:...
gammaguy
7th January 2011, 01:16
Oh you are right, there was no understanding. Just I never hear much of people 'condemning' others, especially when the facts are not known...
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we wasnt wearing a helmet=FACT
I condemn him for that=FACT
people want to ride without a helmet?great,i dont want to pay for him/her to be repaired in hospital,and possibly need a lifetime of expensive care.
so whose choices are imposed on who?
This is one of the reasons why NZ is virtually bankrupt.do the math
onearmedbandit
7th January 2011, 07:12
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This is one of the reasons why NZ is virtually bankrupt.do the math
I like you, you're funny.
Virago
7th January 2011, 09:15
Well it is his skin, however we all pay to repair it!
In New Zealand it is us the tax payers who have to foot the bill to repair those who choose not to wear safety gear.
Most New Zealanders would put forward the same argument against motorcycles in general.
Perceived risk is subjective. Be careful you don't hurt yourself when waving the big safety stick...
Scootbubba
7th January 2011, 11:49
The guy has angel insurance - obviously being preserved for a higher calling. There is no better feeling, even though it's stupid, of cruising no helmet just open air, blatting through the country side - used to love it. But you do need to be younger and invincible.
Conquiztador
7th January 2011, 12:00
Be careful you don't hurt yourself when waving the big safety stick...
Would that be the same one ACC got the wrong end of?
ellipsis
7th January 2011, 12:20
....bumble bee weighing about two ton between the eyes at about 70mph when I was about 15 had me into the bike shop for a full face... when I could open my eyes...got shit from mates and older riders for being a pussy...fuck em , I thought...got shit from hippyish mates back then for wearing jocks...fucked with my freedom they reckoned...kept sand outta my eye...fuck em, I thought...now get shit from my missus for wearing socks with my sandals...a nerd, she calls me...cant fucking win...
gammaguy
7th January 2011, 13:05
I like you, you're funny.
anyone who has a photo of his wife the RGV having a lie in gets my vote
Drew
8th January 2011, 13:44
anyone who has a photo of his wife the RGV having a lie in gets my vote
That's a Gixxer thou fool.
And I think he was being sarcastic about your dumb comment on why the country has no money. I bet you the national deficit that bikers crashing without helmets cause less one hundredth the amount of rugby injuries in this country.
Kickaha
8th January 2011, 13:58
2nd ticket I ever got was $50 for not wearing a helmet, used to spend a lot of time around back roads and out in the paddocks without one
Anyone who thinks I'm an idiot for doing it can go fuck themselves, I can make my own decisions based on what I see as acceptable risk
Drew
8th January 2011, 15:59
2nd ticket I ever got was $50 for not wearing a helmet, used to spend a lot of time around back roads and out in the paddocks without one
Anyone who thinks I'm an idiot for doing it can go fuck themselves, I can make my own decisions based on what I see as acceptable risk
You are a fuckin idiot, got nothing to do with riding without a helmet though.
Conquiztador
8th January 2011, 21:19
You are a fuckin idiot, got nothing to do with riding without a helmet though.
"You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to Drew again."
pearlygirl
8th January 2011, 21:28
Testing or not "high speed" requires a helmet under any conditions. Hubby adjusted suspension yesterday I still donned the draggins and a helmet to run her down the road to test! ACC just love these stats!
Pussy
8th January 2011, 21:36
Testing or not "high speed" requires a helmet under any conditions. Hubby adjusted suspension yesterday I still donned the draggins and a helmet to run her down the road to test! ACC just love these stats!
Well Draggins are shit useless, too! You may as well wear trackpants
Drew
9th January 2011, 06:51
Testing or not "high speed" requires a helmet under any conditions. Hubby adjusted suspension yesterday I still donned the draggins and a helmet to run her down the road to test! ACC just love these stats!
Why would you test ride a bike with no suspension adjustments other than preload? You set that shit and forget it.
oldrider
9th January 2011, 08:08
Get fucked to all hypocrites!
Everyone does things they know are potentially dangerous. The guy is obviously a moron, but to say it's unfortunate that he's not in a terminal condition is fuckin weak, low, gutless, and the kind of attitude that gets people killed in bar fights.
I've got more time for the guy riding than the likes of you Marty, and would offer him more assistance in anyway that I could.
COCK!
The guy's only crime (IMHO) is that he just gave ACC a whole lot of kudos to their argument,
that motorcycles are dangerous and that motorcyclists are cocks! :doh:
For that he should be taken outside and shot for treason! :ar15:
terbang
9th January 2011, 09:39
Most New Zealanders would put forward the same argument against motorcycles in general.
Perceived risk is subjective. Be careful you don't hurt yourself when waving the big safety stick...
Umm no big safety stick waving here. The law says wear a helmet, thats it and people can ride naked for all I or the law care. However deciding to ride without a helmet, whether testing or joyriding and you bust up your head then don't expect others to pay to fix it. Simple.
Berg
9th January 2011, 14:46
I have seen a plonker who decided to do a wheelie, naked on a runway one night and fell off. The funny pink and red mark down the tarmac was his skin and meat. Not pretty.
On this subject, I have recently had a big crash and due to the safety gear I was wearing the damage was limited to 16 weeks of work, temporary paralysis from the neck down, months of pain and damage that will possibly be permanent.
Had I not been wearing the full gear I would quite possibly be dead. Even if it was legal to do so, I would never ride a motorbike on the road (or off road for that matter) without a helmet or safety gear. Its just not worth the risk
Toaster
9th January 2011, 15:13
Well Draggins are shit useless, too! You may as well wear trackpants
Like the ones we wore in the eighties that were so tight our man bits were on full display to all and sundry.
Not to mention the herd of camels.....
pc220
9th January 2011, 15:20
Well fuck me up the arse with a broomstick!!!
Six pages of bitching and name calling, and still not a single one of you has put forward the actual curcimstances of the accident.KB at its petty best,well done evryone.:shutup:
Kickaha
9th January 2011, 15:43
Well fuck me up the arse with a broomstick!!!
Six pages of bitching and name calling, and still not a single one of you has put forward the actual curcimstances of the accident.KB at its petty best,well done evryone.:shutup:
Did you expect anything less?
pc220
9th January 2011, 16:33
Did you expect anything less?
Not really. Was hoping to see some facts by page 5 maybe.
Drew
9th January 2011, 16:44
Well fuck me up the arse with a broomstick!!!
Six pages of bitching and name calling, and still not a single one of you has put forward the actual curcimstances of the accident.KB at its petty best,well done evryone.:shutup:
OK, but bring your own fuckin broom, I don't want mine sullied with anal content.
Kickaha
9th January 2011, 18:00
Not really. Was hoping to see some facts by page 5 maybe.
You're shit out of luck on that one
Smifffy
9th January 2011, 20:37
Well Draggins are shit useless, too! You may as well wear trackpants
I don't care how hot it gets I will always wear my track pants. I won't wear jandals though because I have some proper leather scuffs that offer much more protection.
I always make sure my head is protected and I have just bought a flash as bandanna for the job, it's much cooler than my old one. I never wear a singlet, I make it a rule to always wear a minimum of a T-shirt, got a neat Mr Vintage one too that's real choice.
I mainly ride at night, and because I know that all cagers are out to kill me I have disconnected all my lights so it's much harder for them to see me and try to take me out.
Gloves are also a safety hazard they are way too limiting on your sense of feel when it comes to operating the controls safely. Especially when all my mates want to see me do a big fark off burnout and a stoppie in the pub carpark at closing time.
If I wasn't wearing all my gear I would have really hurt myself that time I fell off while I was trying to do a wheelie in front of the pie-cart on SH1. Luckily the logging truck driver managed to stop in time, and got out and helped me pick my bike up.
Some dork called the cops, but I heard their sirens coming and nailed it past the picture theatre at 120 ks just as all the kids were coming out from Harry Potter - who TF starts a 3 hour movie at midnight anyway?
One kid's gran nearly pulled out in front of me and almost took me out, so I kicked her fricken wing mirror off and yelled at her a bit. Dizzy old bint started to cry and said something about not bein' able to see me cos my lights didn't work. That's why I got frikken loud pipes innit nanna? What's wrong? ACC won't giz you a battery for yer hearing aid? Silly old biddy!
When I got home I rolled up the sleeves of me T-shirt and flexed me biceps in front of the bathroom mirror and reflected on what a dangerous bastard I am.
I'm thinking about shaving my head and moving to Christchurch cos I hear that's where real tough cnuts live, and I can do plenty more runners from the cops who are all pumped up on their boi racer laws down there.
Anybody know how much it costs to take a Keeway on the ferry?
Remember ATGATT people!
sels1
11th January 2011, 14:11
...The injuries are not believed to be life threatening...
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I was talking to the first adult on the scene (some kids saw it happen and came and got him) and he told me this: when he arrived the guy appeared dead - not breathing and no pulse. He couldnt do mouth to mouth as the guys face had been too rearranged. He did chest compressions for about 15 min until the ambos arrived, during which time he came around and faded a few times. Once stabilised by the experts and helecoptered to hosp for treatment (and have his face stiched back on) he made such a recovery within 2 days he was able to call my aquaintance and thank him.
[QUOTE=MSTRS;1129945015]Hmmm...the media NEVER get details wrong, do they?
Thats what I thought.....
imdying
11th January 2011, 14:34
Don't lie, it's fucking shit, bugs hurt when they hit you, your eyes water like fuck unless you've got googles, it's actually pretty fucken crap and good fun at the same timeThat's the rub in'it.
A lot of yanks don't wear helmets, mind you a lot do fuck themselves up badly too.Apparently when congress figured out that more marines were coming back and killing themselves on sports bikes than in combat, that's when the military started tightening up on apparel and training.
Personally I agree that people should wear protective gear all the time, however it is his skinWell yeah, but paying to put it back on his body is a collective thing.
Most New Zealanders would put forward the same argument against motorcycles in general.That's the worry.
Anyone who thinks I'm an idiot for doing it can go fuck themselves, I can make my own decisions based on what I see as acceptable riskI agree, you probably can, but sadly you're not the norm.
Like the ones we wore in the eighties that were so tight our man bits were on full display to all and sundry.Ok that was unexpected in the middle of this thread.
Well fuck me up the arse with a broomstick!!!Santa says you've only got another 49 weeks to wait :D
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