Warkworth

[AD345]

With apologies to Mom, Maha et.al. and making the point that this is about geography and not people.......

Warkworth is a festering abcess across SH1

Having had to pass through there 4 times in the last week, twice today alone, in the car (bike not an option due to Grandkids), I hate the place with a visceral passion.

Stop putting tarseal on the underused roads in the South Island - only 16 people live there and they are all related - and finish the bloody 4-lane motorway this year!

So there

(reference to SH16 will see the poster's armpits cursed with the fleas of a thousand camels)

[Mully]

Here ya go.227714

FWIW, I agree with you. I just couldn't resist the temptation to use this pic.

[Gremlin]

Well, its all your fault if you choose not to use SH16. :bleh: Barely ever use SH1, so therefore hardly ever go through Warkworth.

[FJRider]

With apologies to Mom, Maha et.al. and making the point that this is about geography and not people.......

Warkworth is a festering abcess across SH1

Having had to pass through there 4 times in the last week, twice today alone, in the car (bike not an option due to Grandkids), I hate the place with a visceral passion.

Stop putting tarseal on the underused roads in the South Island - only 16 people live there and they are all related - and finish the bloody 4-lane motorway this year!


As one of the "16" ...

I've always felt the same way about Auckland ...

somebody bulldoze it could they ... ??? our power bills will drop if they did ...

[AD345]

Here ya go.

FWIW, I agree with you. I just couldn't resist the temptation to use this pic.

Nice pic

The only saving grace currently is that JK also plough through the same mess and is now making this a "road of national significance"

Whatever that means

[AD345]

Well, its all your fault if you choose not to use SH16. :bleh: Barely ever use SH1, so therefore hardly ever go through Warkworth.

Living in Papakura I find Kumeu is not much better ....

Those fleas are on their way

[AD345]

As on of the "16" ...

I've always felt the same way about Auckland ...

somebody bulldoze it could they ... ??? our power bills will drop if they did ...

Nice attempt at a thread jack - shouldn't you be at banjo practice?

[FJRider]

Nice attempt at a thread jack - shouldn't you be at banjo practice?

that's tomorrow night ....

I bet I could find more people (with real reasons) that would prefer Auckland got flattened ... than Warkworth ...

Save your pathetic wimpering for a legitimate topic ...

[popelli]

With apologies to Mom, Maha et.al. and making the point that this is about geography and not people.......

Warkworth is a festering abcess across SH1



and you will just move the bottle neck about 12 miles north to Wellsford where SH16 joins the SH1

plans for a 4 lane highway to warkworth were on the drawing boards back in the 1970's maybe if the government spent less on social engineering there might be more money for roading

alternatively introduce and encourage other forms of transport apart from private cars

[Mom]

Warkworth is a festering abcess across SH1...

Ya thunk!

This time of the year sees me taking very deep, controlled breaths...

The breaths relate to the stupid market...

They also relate to the open road...

I try to avoid the questions about the skills of other road users...

My advice...

Text me for a biker friendly addy, that accepts the fury of the biker that has been almost ex...

[FJRider]

plans for a 4 lane highway to warkworth were on the drawing boards back in the 1970's maybe if the government spent less on social engineering there might be more money for roading



Considering .... that the majority of any funding for the roads in your area, and the whole country for that matter ... are spent IN/ON AUCKLAND ROADS ... thats funny ... :killingme

[far queue]

bleat moan bitch cryOh looky another Aucklander wanting to bitch about roading, get over yourself, the rest of the country doesn't give a toss. You want to see some fucked up roads, try riding around here.

[FJRider]

You want to see some fucked up roads, try riding around here.

Are those the ones that "moved" 4 metres to the left ... ???

[AD345]

and you will just move the bottle neck about 12 miles north to Wellsford where SH16 joins the SH1

plans for a 4 lane highway to warkworth were on the drawing boards back in the 1970's maybe if the government spent less on social engineering there might be more money for roading

alternatively introduce and encourage other forms of transport apart from private cars

A good 50% or more of the traffic heads out to Matakana. It's basically 1 set of lights that causes all the grief.

[AD345]

Ya thunk!

This time of the year sees me taking very deep, controlled breaths...

The breaths relate to the stupid market...

They also relate to the open road...

I try to avoid the questions about the skills of other road users...

My advice...

Text me for a biker friendly addy, that accepts the fury of the biker that has been almost ex...

Will do - but is going to be a while before I head north of the bridge

[AD345]

that's tomorrow night ....

I bet I could find more people (with real reasons) that would prefer Auckland got flattened ... than Warkworth ...

Save your pathetic wimpering for a legitimate topic ...


Oh looky another Aucklander wanting to bitch about roading, get over yourself, the rest of the country doesn't give a toss. You want to see some fucked up roads, try riding around here.


If you kids don't pipe down we'll cut off your pocket money

[Virago]

Bloody whining jafas...

You've got no idea what real traffic congestion is like - down here it's bloody murder some days...

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/42/92484266_3f3e2297e2.jpg

[FJRider]

Bloody whining jafas...

You've got no idea what real traffic congestion is like - down here it's bloody murder some days...



only ONE lane ... they couldn't cope ... :killingme

[AD345]

Bloody whining jafas...

You've got no idea what real traffic congestion is like - down here it's bloody murder some days...


It's obvious what you need there tho innit?

Not a fly-over

A duck-under


:yes:

[piston broke]

didn't that 3rd set of lights,two lanes into one,
all in about 1km of State highway 1
sort out the congestion.:facepalm:

[popelli]

Considering .... that the majority of any funding for the roads in your area,

My area???? and where excatly is that ??

Please get your facts straight before you make wild assumptions

But for the information

I left Warkworth in 1971

I left NZ in 1999

[Taz]

I left NZ in 1999

Welcome back.

[Maha]

My area???? and where excatly is that ??

Please get your facts straight before you make wild assumptions

But for the information

I left Warkworth in 1971

I left NZ in 1999

Population has exploded to around 4000 and to be honest, on a bad day, rush hour trafficc by the bridgehouse can easily reach 12-15 cars...:gob:
Where they all come from is beyond me.
And you can always tell an Auckland city dweller in the Supermarket, they are the ones with the upside down smile.

[MSTRS]

Or in copper-coloured Nissans...

[Morcs]

its funny how before the toll road, it used to be orewa that was the hell hole to get through when heading north. now the motorway bypasses that, its moved it to the next town.

16 wasnt all that great yesterday. spent way to much time in 3rd gear in the car having to pass that hurrendous amounts of retards doing 70-80k all the way. dont they know its a racetrack?

[Jantar]

...Stop putting tarseal on the underused roads in the South Island - only 16 people live there and they are all related - and finish the bloody 4-lane motorway this year!
.....

As one of those 16 south islanders, I agree with this post. More gravel roads will keep those Dorklanders up norf where they belong.

[Gibbo89]

You haven't lived until you have tried re-stringing a banjo :corn:

Do you north islanders know the South Island theme song? Let me give you the link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gX1EP6mG-E

[FJRider]

As one of those 16 south islanders, I agree with this post. More gravel roads will keep those Dorklanders up norf where they belong.

Any motorcyclist that requires four lane highways to get about ... isn't a Biker ....

Just another motorist ... :facepalm:

[Goblin]

Oh looky another Aucklander wanting to bitch about roading, get over yourself, the rest of the country doesn't give a toss. You want to see some fucked up roads, try riding around here.


Are those the ones that "moved" 4 metres to the left ... ???

If you 2 don't stop stirring. We will stop funding your financial mismanagement 1.6b and Landscaping alterations. :finger:

[far queue]

If you 2 don't stop stirring. We will stop funding your financial mismanagement 1.6b and Landscaping alterations. :finger:Now where would the fun be in that, and would you mind not funding the landscape alterations please, we've had enough of the landscape constantly altering thanks all the same.

[FJRider]

If you 2 don't stop stirring. We will stop funding your financial mismanagement 1.6b and Landscaping alterations. :finger:

When was the last time the earth moved for you ... ???? :innocent:

Any more cheek from you norfies ... we'll cut the cable ... :yes:

[Bass]

we'll cut the cable ... :yes:
This used to be one of my favourite expressions, Invercargill being the home town and all, until someone said to me...
Auckland has about 35% of the population, pays about 38% of the total tax bill and receives about 32% of the infrastructure spend. So even with the fuel surtax, Auckland is still subsidizing the rest of the country.

The bastard thing is that I've never been able to prove him wrong. Bugger!

[FJRider]

This used to be one of my favourite expressions, Invercargill being the home town and all until someone said to me...
Auckland has about 35% of the population, pays about 38% of the total tax bill and receives about 32% of the infrastructure spend. So even with the fuel surtax, Auckland is still subsidizing the rest of the country.

The bastard thing is that I've never been able to prove him wrong. Bugger!

cut the cable just to hear the squealing then ....

[Bass]

cut the cable just to hear the squealing then ....

I would, but it wasn't so long ago that the cable fed the other way for the first time. So it would all depend on the weather as to who did the squealing.

[Mully]

FTR - 16 wasn't very busy today.

Just saying.

[warewolf]

The only saving grace currently is that JK also plough through the same mess and is now making this a "road of national significance"

Whatever that meansIt means it must be preserved in original condition.

[Big Dave]

FTR - 16 wasn't very busy today.

Just saying.


Kripner Rd was quieter - just sayin'.

[Jantar]

This used to be one of my favourite expressions, Invercargill being the home town and all, until someone said to me...
Auckland has about 35% of the population, pays about 38% of the total tax bill and receives about 32% of the infrastructure spend. So even with the fuel surtax, Auckland is still subsidizing the rest of the country.

The bastard thing is that I've never been able to prove him wrong. Bugger!

He isn't wrong, but that is only because so many companies have their head office in Auckland.

eg. A petrol company has its head office in Auckland, but runs a petrol station in Invercargill. All profit that the petrol station in invercargill earns is counted as being earned by head office in Auckland. Head office pays the tax, and so the tax is counted as being paid by Auckland, even though the money comes from Invercargill.

With infrastructure, a similar effect occurs. A power station is built in Taranaki, and power lines are built from Taranaki to Huntly, then new lines are built from Whakamaru to Otahuhu. Total cost is around $3B of which only $100M is spent in Auckland, but it is all for Auckland's benefit.

If you want a fair comparison then rather than take the total tax paid, take the net Paye tax less benefits and see where the real wealth is being earned.

[Berries]

I bet I could find more people (with real reasons) that would prefer Auckland got flattened ... than Warkworth ....
I'd do them both.

[Bass]

Total cost is around $3B of which only $100M is spent in Auckland, but it is all for Auckland's benefit.

If you want a fair comparison then rather than take the total tax paid, take the net Paye tax less benefits and see where the real wealth is being earned.

You make some really good points but I think that implying power supply is typical of infrastructure spending patterns is pretty skewed thinking.

[Bender]

cut the cable just to hear the squealing then ....

Auckland's power comes from the Huntly thermal station, which also sends power south.

[Pixie]

Population has exploded to around 4000 and to be honest, on a bad day, rush hour trafficc by the bridgehouse can easily reach 12-15 cars...:gob:
Where they all come from is beyond me.
And you can always tell an Auckland city dweller in the Supermarket, they are the ones with the upside down smile.
You're an Auckland city dweller now :facepalm:

[Maha]

You're an Auckland city dweller now :facepalm:

Does that mean I have to learn another language?

[Pixie]

Yeah. "Stupid"

[Jantar]

Auckland's power comes from the Huntly thermal station, which also sends power south.
Auckland's peak demad yesterday was 630MW. The old Huntly station was shut down and generated 0MW, the newer E3P station at Huntly was generating 330MW (it can go higher to 380 MW) and all the rest of Auckland's and Northland's demand was supplied by stations further south.

[Jantar]

You make some really good points but I think that implying power supply is typical of infrastructure spending patterns is pretty skewed thinking.
I use electricity as an example because that is something I do know about. I do not know about roading, water supplies etc, so can't comment on those ones. However it does show that the simplified claims about where tax is paid, where infrastructure spending occurs etc, whist correct, are also misleading.

[Maha]

Yeah. "Stupid"

Thats easy, Im already fluent in stoopid.
Brushed up on my skills when I joined KB...:woohoo:

[Bass]

it does show that the simplified claims about where tax is paid, where infrastructure spending occurs etc, whilst correct, are also misleading.

Mostly fair enough - I contend that using electricity as your example is misleading in terms of where the infrastructure spend happens but that there may well be merit in the rest of what you say.

[Grubber]

Oh looky another Aucklander wanting to bitch about roading, get over yourself, the rest of the country doesn't give a toss. You want to see some fucked up roads, try riding around here.

Being an ex South Islander i would still rather ride down there than up here. Nicer people.


A good 50% or more of the traffic heads out to Matakana. It's basically 1 set of lights that causes all the grief.

Cut them down.....there sorted!

As one of those 16 south islanders, I agree with this post. More gravel roads will keep those Dorklanders up norf where they belong.

And this is the reason they live down there....cause there aint no whinging Aucklanders.

[piston broke]

Cut them down.....there sorted!


agreed,
a very large roundabout would sort it out

[Mom]

agreed,
a very large roundabout would sort it out

Think of the trees please :shutup: :facepalm:

And yes I am serious, there was a roundabout proposed for the Hill Street intersection, but it would have meant cutting down 5 or 6 mature Totara trees in the little park there, and as a result the idea was canned.

Just you lot wait till yet another set of lights are installed at the McKinney Road intersection...

[Toaster]

My advice...

Text me for a biker friendly addy, that accepts the fury of the biker that has been almost ex...

About time you put the kettle on!

Same goes here in Kaukapakapa SH16 for anyone wanting a pitstop.:scooter:

[Mudfart]

i went up to ruakaka on the 27th and the traffic was stopped and crawling several kms from outside warkworth and then same again outside wellsford.
i think a motorway extension wont change the fact that town centres strategically placed along SH routes will always cause this delay. There were hundreds of people stopped at wellsford, parking upto a km from any services, to take a leak, get food, stretch legs etc.
And my god, the moronic parallel parking attempts, parking with boats, caravans etc I saw.
It made me shake my head, at myself! for being so dumb to ride my bike up there at that time of year. i was simply another automaton headed for a "stress free" holiday.
duped by the govt who insists we should vote for them next time, because they have improved our lives so much with the new highways to which GST and petrol tax had to go up to pay for. And toll roads, don't forget the Puhoi tunnel is just the beginning.

[Maha]

SOAP's = Stressed Out Auckland Pricks.
Jafa is so last year.

[piston broke]

Think of the trees please :shutup: :facepalm:

And yes I am serious, there was a roundabout proposed for the Hill Street intersection, but it would have meant cutting down 5 or 6 mature Totara trees in the little park there, and as a result the idea was canned.

Just you lot wait till yet another set of lights are installed at the McKinney Road intersection...

i'm fairly 'greenish' minded,but,
screw half a dozen trees.
what about the litres of fuel wasted at hill st,
also the tonnes of carbon from all the parked up vehicles.

[Brett]

Agreed, SH1 through that region is utter rubbish. Heading North, got stuck 2 kms or so before the tunnel and went at walking pace all the way into warkworth before it cleared up a little. So much for all that money spent on the new road layout...talk about a flop.