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rwh
5th January 2011, 20:27
It occurs to me that the significant common factor in all holiday road deaths is obvious:

The holiday.

By having statutory holidays, we ensure that there will be many people trying to go on holiday at the same time, loading up the roads.

If we just got rid of the fixed holidays, and upped the annual leave allocation to 5 weeks, traffic would be much less temporally concentrated.

Additionally, holiday destinations wouldn't be so crowded, and we wouldn't be discriminating against non-Christians.

Richard

SMOKEU
5th January 2011, 21:36
That's why I stay off the roads as much as possible in these peak holiday times. Too many cops on the roads, and too many muppets out there.

JimO
5th January 2011, 21:38
I

we wouldn't be discriminating against non-Christians.

Richard
pc wanker alert

blackdog
5th January 2011, 21:46
In a similar vein, it occurs to me that every pursuit ending in a fatality has the withdrawal of the police 20 seconds before the accident as a common denominator.

Hypothesis:- Not abandoning the pursuit will result in zero deaths!

Taz
5th January 2011, 21:57
And we could get rid of weekends too?

scumdog
5th January 2011, 21:59
It occurs to me that the significant common factor in all holiday road deaths is obvious:

The holiday.

By having statutory holidays, we ensure that there will be many people trying to go on holiday at the same time, loading up the roads.

If we just got rid of the fixed holidays, and upped the annual leave allocation to 5 weeks, traffic would be much less temporally concentrated.

Additionally, holiday destinations wouldn't be so crowded, and we wouldn't be discriminating against non-Christians.

Richard

A holiday road toll of say 5 or 6 deaths (being those fuckwits that need culled from the population) would be just fine IMHO.

steve_t
5th January 2011, 21:59
It occurs to me that the significant common factor in all holiday road deaths is obvious:

The holiday.

By having statutory holidays, we ensure that there will be many people trying to go on holiday at the same time, loading up the roads.

If we just got rid of the fixed holidays, and upped the annual leave allocation to 5 weeks, traffic would be much less temporally concentrated.

Additionally, holiday destinations wouldn't be so crowded, and we wouldn't be discriminating against non-Christians.

Richard

OK, in the summer, I'll go to the beach. You and everyone else should either continue working or stay at home, except the hot women :sunny: In the winter I'll go to the snow; you should stay at home, go to work, or optionally you could go to the beach. Non-Christians should be banned from spending time with their families around December 25 and only 1 in 365 people should be allowed time off on the 1st of January :innocent::shutup:

At least you're trying to think of solutions that might work instead of reducing the speed tolerance and claiming its effectiveness in the absense of data. Now, if someone can think of something else that might work, we'll all be better off

ellipsis
5th January 2011, 22:04
And we could get rid of weekends too?

...whats a weekend...every day is the start of another week...self employed:violin::violin::violin:....

...but I empathise with the OP's sentiments...

Blackflagged
5th January 2011, 22:11
A holiday road toll of say 5 or 6 deaths (being those fuckwits that need culled from the population) would be just fine IMHO.

Oh Happy summer days! Jandals Sand and Sun!

rwh
5th January 2011, 22:12
OK, in the summer, I'll go to the beach. You and everyone else should either continue working or stay at home, except the hot women :sunny: In the winter I'll go to the snow; you should stay at home, go to work, or optionally you could go to the beach. Non-Christians should be banned from spending time with their families around December 25 and only 1 in 365 people should be allowed time off on the 1st of January :innocent::shutup:


Christmas/New Year isn't the whole of summer. Queen's Birthday isn't the whole of winter.

I'm generally just as happy going on holiday in mid-January, or February, when the crowds are thinner. Pity I had to take time off work for 4 days when I didn't have anywhere to go. I have no problem with allowing people to take their leave whenever they want.

Admittedly, some people seem to like specifically going to places (Taupo, Mt Maunganui etc at New Year) where there will be large crowds; I'm not one of them, and I suspect they're not the majority.

Richard

rwh
5th January 2011, 22:14
And we could get rid of weekends too?

That had crossed my mind - absolutely reasonable to take 2 days off each week, but why do they have to be the same 2 for everybody?

Richard

rwh
5th January 2011, 22:17
pc wanker alert

Think about what the C stands for ... at least you're acknowledging I'm correct :)

Do you think it's reasonable for government to specifically take into account the traditions of one particular religious group?

Not that it was the main point of my suggestion, of course.

Richard

Gremlin
5th January 2011, 22:20
Working in IT, its service orientated. Public holidays give somewhat of an excuse to not work, or at least not be rung, which gives a nice break. I'd rather have holidays, and if the idiots are the ones being culled, I don't mind that either.

ellipsis
5th January 2011, 22:38
...a lot of the time its the idiots doing the culling too, dont forget...lotsa good boys and girls have bought the farm on these bottlenecks of national stupidity called Christmas Holidays...it seems like half the rules get discarded by drivers at this time of year, all in some kind of institutionally ingrained sense of, some kind of holiday rush...

JimO
6th January 2011, 06:18
Think about what the C stands for ... at least you're acknowledging I'm correct :)

Do you think it's reasonable for government to specifically take into account the traditions of one particular religious group?

Not that it was the main point of my suggestion, of course.

Richard

when in rome do as the romans do, if you dont like it fuck off back where you came from

Dogboy900
6th January 2011, 06:36
when in rome do as the romans do, if you dont like it fuck off back where you came from

Ah you mean launder money, molest children etc? Maybe you should fuck off to Rome? :yes:

crazyhorse
6th January 2011, 07:28
.................interesting theory :facepalm:

Grubber
6th January 2011, 07:36
Not sure what the fuss is about. I haven't had an Xmas holiday for 20+ years and would love the opportunity:yes:. Have family in the deep South and an Xmas with them would be luxury. Hop on a plane and there i am. No fuss, no bother. Traffic density is what it is. I rode in it over the New Year and just went with the flow. Still don't have a problem with it, and if i did, I just wouldn't go that day. Easy really!:woohoo:

ynot slow
6th January 2011, 08:38
Ride your own ride,pass when safe and be aware,aware is the key.

Stat hols are a myth,heaps are working(not me though.yeah)in retail,service industry,so really unless like myself and the firm closes for 2 weeks,most people are at work.

Have a looksie over boxing day,the worst road to travel is to the warehouse,brisco,rebel sports etc,seems our favourite holiday ideal is shopping.

paturoa
6th January 2011, 12:37
DUH

The road toll for last year was 371. So thats more than one per day.

The hols toll was 13 over 13 days. So its LESS dangerous during the hols (or no more than)

Too many ignorant jurno's interviewing their keyboards me thinks.

george formby
6th January 2011, 13:08
I have a better idea. Why not have regional passports & border checkpoints were a fee has to be paid for an entry stamp. Using the Police & ACC statistical analysis model the higher the percentage of accidents in a given region over the national average means that drivers from that region pay significantly more for their entry permits. The revenue collected from them being used to off set the greater risk they represent when not sat at home.
This would deter poor people with below average driving skills who prefer to celebrate national holidays "en masse" at only a handful of destinations from leaving their neighborhoods & minimising congestion at peak times for others with more imagination.

steve_t
6th January 2011, 13:48
DUH

The road toll for last year was 371. So thats more than one per day.

The hols toll was 13 over 13 days. So its LESS dangerous during the hols (or no more than)

Too many ignorant jurno's interviewing their keyboards me thinks.

Just goes to show the power of the media!