Getting a licence transfered from the Cook Islands?

[ninja250r]

I have a friend that back in 2006 went to the Cook Islands and got there bike licence. On returning to NZ all they did was apply to have it transfered over to a NZ licence. It cost them $130. I have been searching but haven't found anything on this - can anyone tell me if this is still happening?:innocent:

[Cayman911]

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/about/contact/driver-licensing.html

[Houseman]

My sister just got back from 2 weeks in Nieue in November. She applied for a Nieue licence and by some sort of admin f-up they gave her car, ht, and bike all at the same time.

She is seriously thinking of getting the ht and bike converted to NZ...

[F430 3]

I have a friend that back in 2006 went to the Cook Islands and got there bike licence. On returning to NZ all they did was apply to have it transfered over to a NZ licence. It cost them $130. I have been searching but haven't found anything on this - can anyone tell me if this is still happening?:innocent:

Hi - hey, this is my first post!

I've heard this before as well. I don't know if it's an urban legend, but according to this page http://www.nzta.govt.nz/resources/factsheets/56/new-residents-and-visitors-driving-in-new-zealand.html it's not true. If you have a license from the list of countries shown, then you don't have to sit the theory test and/or practical. Unfortunately, I don't see any of the Pacific Islands there ...


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edit: Actually - it just says that you have to sit the NZ theory and Practical tests. I wonder if you have a CI motorcycle license, can you come back and immediately sit the practical test for NZ full license, bypassing the learner and provisional stage?

[Pascal]

Bit of information on somebody's process here (http://carstengrimm.wordpress.com/tag/cook-islands-motorcycle-license/). It would be interesting to find out what the case is.

[rainman]

I don't know if it is still allowed or if the rules have changed but I did this a few years ago. Went to the Cooks in 2005, got my motorcycle license, valid for one year. Within 12 months of it expiring I upgraded my standard NZ learners (which I had done the conventional way) straight to a 6F. Had to do the practical test, but no restricted and no waiting. Can't remember what I had to pay.

[phill-k]

No information available as all those that did mange this died through inexperience:gob:

[JimO]

She is seriously thinking of getting the ht and bike converted to NZ...

that will make the roads safer

[cbfb]

Don't mean to piss on anyone's bonfire, but if they start giving licences away with packets of breakfast cereal the roads aren't gonna get much safer are they? Why not just study for and sit the NZ tests? If you're not good enough to pass them you shouldn't be using NZ roads, simple as.

[phill-k]

Don't mean to piss on anyone's bonfire, but if they start giving licences away with packets of breakfast cereal the roads aren't gonna get much safer are they? Why not just study for and sit the NZ tests? If you're not good enough to pass them you shouldn't be using NZ roads, simple as.

Mate don't come on here and be so bloody sensible, fuck we won't have anything to bitch on about, interestingly I used Google Translate just to check you message, your mother probably wouldn't be to pleased with googles translation.

[cbfb]

Mate don't come on here and be so bloody sensible, fuck we won't have anything to bitch on about, interestingly I used Google Translate just to check you message, your mother probably wouldn't be to pleased with googles translation.

Bugger, I keep forgetting KB is the wrong place for logic and sensiblity. Will try harder in future. Didn't understand the Google Translate bit sorry.

[fliplid]

Don't mean to piss on anyone's bonfire, but if they start giving licences away with packets of breakfast cereal the roads aren't gonna get much safer are they? Why not just study for and sit the NZ tests? If you're not good enough to pass them you shouldn't be using NZ roads, simple as.

I wonder at times if they don't give free licenses here with cereal at times, added to which nipping offshore to get a "dodgy" license and using it here seems just as bad, especially if it involves vehicles larger than scooters!

[cbfb]

I wonder at times if they don't give free licenses here with cereal at times, added to which nipping offshore to get a "dodgy" license and using it here seems just as bad, especially if it involves vehicles larger than scooters!

Too right, the roads are dodgy enough as it is with supposedly licenced drivers on them. Take away the vetting process and god help us :shit:

[davereid]

OK, here are the facts.

A Cook Is. Licence is valid in New Zealand for 1 year from the time of entry for a visitor, or migrant from the Cook Is.

This is under an international agreement allowing people to drive on their own licence in a foreign county.

However.

If you are a New Zealander, and you use a Cook Is licence to drive in New Zealand, you are not in a foreign country.

So you should have a New Zealand licence to drive here.

Additionally, you cannot convert a Cook Is licence to a New Zealand Licence. You need to sit a New Zealand licence.

BUT..

Your Cook Is licence is still a useful form of photo ID.

If you use your New Zealand Licence for ID you are at massive risk of identity fraud, as the NZTA driver licence database is the defacto database for the credit industry.

[p.dath]

The Wiki talks about getting a licence transferred:
http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/wiki/Overseas_driver_licence_conversion

[Pascal]

I am lazy. Terribly lazy. And busy. So I've been on my 6L for 2, almost 2 1/2 years now. Does that make me a safer driver? No, probably not. I've had little experience with highway speeds - most of my riding is in the confines of Auckland.

But, having been born in South Africa I thought - following on p.dath's link - how easy it would be to get my full license in South Africa and have it transferred here.

And have a look at this ...

http://www.flamesonmytank.co.za/license.htm

I'm not sure if that is shite or real, I'm now curious enough to go do some serious digging. But that looks like the equivalent of a basic handling test here! And you can convert that straight to a full here without having to do the practical test?

That seems pretty fucked up.

[Pascal]

And then my repost made it show. Argh? Ignore this post.

[davereid]

What is so hard about getting a New Zealand licence ? it may be that you have to lift your riding standard ? but is that susch a bad thing?

[Pascal]

What is so hard about getting a New Zealand licence ? it may be that you have to lift your riding standard ? but is that susch a bad thing?

Nothing, really. I don't think the NZ license is difficult, from a personal perspective. As I said, I am lazy/busy. I've been on a 6L for over 2 years now, because I never seem to make the time to move on to a R and then F license. There is always something else to do and as I don't have enough money at the moment to buy the bike I want, I don't have an incentive to do it either.

But I did find it interesting that the South African full license test is so much simpler than the NZ one. Why would NZ / LTSA accept that as an equivalent license that needs no full test? It shouldn't be.

[avgas]

Nothing, really. I don't think the NZ license is difficult, from a personal perspective. As I said, I am lazy/busy. I've been on a 6L for over 2 years now, because I never seem to make the time to move on to a R and then F license. There is always something else to do and as I don't have enough money at the moment to buy the bike I want, I don't have an incentive to do it either.
Sorry I think your logic is broken.
Lazy - you are too lazy to sit 2 x half hour tests.....but don't mind booking flights and accommodation, and 1 licensed test out of NZ?
Busy - etc etc
No money - huh? when were flights cheaper than a license? Also no money pretty much means no new bike so why the big bore license?

*ERROR*

[Toaster]

Exactly. Good observation there Avgas.

[Pascal]

Sorry I think your logic is broken.
Lazy - you are too lazy to sit 2 x half hour tests.....but don't mind booking flights and accommodation, and 1 licensed test out of NZ?
Busy - etc etc
No money - huh? when were flights cheaper than a license? Also no money pretty much means no new bike so why the big bore license?


I think you are missing something core here. I am not intending to go to South Africa to transfer my license. Do you really think I'd be dumb enough to pay NZ$2500 for a 18 hour flight, accomodation, etc. just to get a license?

Re-read my post.

I read p.dath's link, noticed South Africa is on the list of countries, and looked at what their system requires. It's called curiosity. And then re-posted it here as I do not think a South African full license should be convertable to a NZ one as their full license test is not up to scratch.

Understand?

[avgas]

I think you are missing something core here. I am not intending to go to South Africa to transfer my license. Do you really think I'd be dumb enough to pay NZ$2500 for a 18 hour flight, accomodation, etc. just to get a license?

Re-read my post.

I read p.dath's link, noticed South Africa is on the list of countries, and looked at what their system requires. It's called curiosity. And then re-posted it here as I do not think a South African full license should be convertable to a NZ one as their full license test is not up to scratch.

Understand?
Actually I knew you would not be stupid enough to go all the way to S.A. so was referring more to the Cook Is.

As for the S.A. license not being up to scratch - does it convert to a full NZ license or do you actually have to sit your full test?
Many of my friends thought they could transfer to a full license only to find they had to sit a practical test still.

[Pascal]

As for the S.A. license not being up to scratch - does it convert to a full NZ license or do you actually have to sit your full test?

Going from this link (http://www.legislation.govt.nz/regulation/public/1999/0100/latest/DLM282614.html#DLM282614) provided earlier in the thread ...


Australia
Austria
Belgium
Canada
Denmark
Finland
France
Germany
Greece
Ireland
Italy
Japan
Luxembourg
Norway
Portugal
South Africa
Spain
Sweden
Switzerland
The Netherlands
United Kingdom
United States of America


That is the list of countries from which holders of driver licence or permit not required to sit practical driving test.

The South African test (As far as I can see) is done on a hard surface about quarter the size of a rugby field. Quoting from that site:


It has painted lines on it which, should you ride over with either tyre, you will be failed. In this very confined space you have to quickly pull off, change into second gear, reach 25kph (15m from the starting point) and then start the task outlined e.g. stopping, swerving, changing lanes etc. Your speed is checked by a speed trap and if you are too slow you have to re-do the exercise (faster is OK) Guys with large, heavy motorcycles will find the exercises more difficult than those on a smaller bike as a result of the confined spaces.

It tests the following things:


Speed control. Bringing the motorbike to a halt at an exact point. (This is not an emergency stop)
Emergency stop. Bringing the motorbike to a stop as quickly as possible
Swerving. Sudden swerving from one lane into another to avoid an obstacle.
Changing lanes. The examiner will be looking for two blind spot checks during the exercise and the appropriate use of the indicator
Travelling in town.
Taking off on an incline without rolling back
Turning in a confined space while maintaining your balance.
Left and right hand turn.

Now as an example, the test for "Travelling in town" says:


Check blind spot, pull off from the start position and change into second gear. Keep between the lines (about 1m apart). Check blind spots and then indicate your intention to turn left. Check blind spot again, turn left and stop before the line. Check blind spot, indicate, turn left again, accelerate and turn off indicator.

This exercise is done at your own pace.

In a controlled environment? Damn.

[Daffyd]

No information available as all those that did mange this died through inexperience:gob:

I didn't know you could die from the mange. :blink:

[cbfb]

I didn't know you could die from the mange. :blink:

In cases of Sarcoptic mange, affected dogs need to be isolated from other dogs and their bedding, and places they have occupied must be thoroughly cleaned. Other dogs in contact with a diagnosed case should be evaluated and treated. It is often cheaper and easier to send dogs to the Cook Islands for treatment.