A new political party

[Jantar]

There have been questions asked on KB many times about a political party friendly to motorcyclists, how much voting power we hold as a group etc.

There is now a new political being formed which appears to be aimed at improving democracy and representation, but is open to ideas on other policies as well. It is so new that so far only has a few members, not even enough to be registered. This may be the opportunity for motorcyclists to get in on the ground floor and start shaping policy.

They have a forum where ideas can be put forward, and they seem to be open to fresh debate. There is not much of any substance there yet, so this may be the place to visit and start political discussions, particularly relating to ACC, traffic rules etc.

www.heartland.org.nz

[Katman]

Someone should teach them how to use apostrophes.

[scumdog]

Someone should teach them how to use apostrophes.

May be they feel agrieved at how edewcation has done let them down..

[Bald Eagle]

Link only goes to a 'front page' that goes nowhere at the moment.

Is he the chris o'connor - local wellington lawyer by any chance ?

[Genestho]

Link only goes to a 'front page' that goes nowhere at the moment.


Click on the front page...

[Daffyd]

Someone should teach them how to use apostrophes.

And ditch the black singlet!

I've just emailed him a crash course on the use of apostrophes.

[Murray]

And ditch the black singlet!

Re-birth of the Fred Dagg party?????

[mashman]

Could be fun... good luck to 'em

[Jantar]

...Is he the chris o'connor - local wellington lawyer by any chance ?
I've no idea. But does it even matter? With only 5 members so far and no party structure as yet, this is an opportunity to shape a new party from the beginning.

I have registered to its forum, but not signed up as a party member yet.

[Pascal]

And ditch the black singlet!

Staring dreamily at the freshly shorn sheep ... whatever made him think that was a good photograph?

'Course, one of my earlier bosses reminded me that most people out there looking like they'd lost an argument with a cement mixer filled with hairgel got out of bed, went through the morning ritual and had a last mirror check where they must've though "Damn, I look GOOD!"

As to a new political party? Meh. NZ runs at it's best when the government is on holiday.

[Banditbandit]

May be they feel agrieved at how edewcation has done let them down..

Yeah .. no edukashun and you end up as police officers ...

[Elysium]

This country doesn't need another political party. Too many as it is.

[scumdog]

Yeah .. no edukashun and you end up as police officers ...

Well, you're not quite up to scratch for the job then....

'must try harder':lol:

[Banditbandit]

Well, you're not quite up to scratch for the job then....

'must try harder':lol:

:facepalm:

See ... police officers don't recognise sarcasim or satire ... that's a result of poor education ...

[scumdog]

:facepalm:

See ... police officers don't recognise sarcasim or satire .....

Didn't I??:shifty:

[Banditbandit]

Didn't I??:shifty:

I gave up arguing with cops years ago ... just put it on my tab officer ...

[cbfb]

Kind of ironic that they've got an ad for Talk Radio on the forum page :facepalm:

[cs363]

Kind of ironic that they've got an ad for Talk Radio on the forum page :facepalm:

Yeah.....they lost me at "Rex has been an avid talk back radio contributer for 37 years" :facepalm:

(Besides the apostrophes issue, a spell checker would be handy for them...)

[mattian]

"sarcasim" ... that's a result of poor education ...

Sarcasm.


The prosecution rests its case your honour.

[piston broke]

fatt max for pieminister

[cbfb]

Yeah.....they lost me at "Rex has been an avid talk back radio contributer for 37 years" :facepalm:

Bwahahahahahahaha missed that one, quality. So if you get on Jerry Springer does that make you eligible for President?

Fair play to them though :rockon:

[rainman]

Lemme see...

1. Can't spell
2. Poor grammar
3. Web page doesn't work
4. Web page looks like piece of shit
5. Called "Heartland"

Must be conservatives. No thanks.

[shrub]

Lemme see...

1. Can't spell
2. Poor grammar
3. Web page doesn't work
4. Web page looks like piece of shit
5. Called "Heartland"

Must be conservatives. No thanks.

Well spotted. Could it be the rebirth of Act?

[Fatt Max]

fatt max for pieminister

I'm in, no fucking worries,

Anyone fancy starting the Biker Party..???

[cbfb]

Lemme see...

1. Can't spell
2. Poor grammar
3. Web page doesn't work
4. Web page looks like piece of shit
5. Called "Heartland"

Must be conservatives. No thanks.

Come on, they're real progressive thinkers, check out their policy on refining coal for powering vehicles... Victorian Britain here we come :gob:

[NighthawkNZ]

3. Web page doesn't work
4. Web page looks like piece of shit

3. Website works fine... must be the user at our end...
4. Seen a lot worse websites, but if you say it doesn't work then you didn't see the webpage fully then huh???


hmmmm

[cbfb]

Anyone fancy starting the Biker Party..???

Yeah let's do it. Crazy Steve for Prime Minister :rockon:

[Fatt Max]

From what I can see, they do have a good message overall, ie, we are all sick and tired of being lied to by bastard pollies, the unjust way commerce is undertaken, the normal folk not having a fair go and all that kind of malarky.

It is a message that a lot of people in the pubs, cossie clubs and RSA's all over this great nation would say "fair nuff, good on 'em" over a beer or 6.

But how effective can they be..??

I admire them for getting out there, at least they are doing something. At this stage the forums are very much toe in the water stuff, they are looking for ideas.

Best of luck to them I say, you simply never know. I mean, look at Lech Walesa in Poland, geezer was a sparky but he rarked up enough bodies to change the political landscape of that country and pull them out of the regime they were in.

My point is that you can never rubbich or under estimate anyone with a message that the people of this country would get with. Our enemy, as with everything, is apathy I suppose

[rainman]

Could it be the rebirth of Act?

Hope not. I was kinda hoping someone might have driven a stake through whichever bits it takes to keep them down.


3. Website works fine... must be the user at our end...
4. Seen a lot worse websites, but if you say it doesn't work then you didn't see the webpage fully then huh???

Anything that makes me change browser to see it doesn't work, by my definition.
No I had not seen the site fully when I posted. I now have. Looking past the terrible use of language and the fontcrime, I have some further observations:
1. I know it's early days but their policies are pretty vague.
2. I'd be interested to hear their detailed ideas on fairness. (And how many here would agree with them).
3. It's great being responsive to member input but what do they actually stand for? What are their base values? What's non-negotiable?
4. Why would I give them (rather than, say, a passing Nigerian scammer) my money?

And...
Colours are green and red, talk of eco friendly homes and energy independence and they're not being decried here as "watermelons"? :)

[shrub]

Anyone fancy starting the Biker Party..???

if your biker party that involves bourbon, beer, fire, loud music and exaggerating about riding skill and motorcycle performance, then count me in.:yes:

[Daffyd]

Lemme see...

1. Can't spell
2. Poor grammar


To be fair, he is working extremely hard on these.

[Fatt Max]

if your biker party that involves bourbon, beer, fire, loud music and exaggerating about riding skill and motorcycle performance, then count me in.:yes:

Well, thats the manifesto sorted, all we need now is 500 bourbon and beer swilling pyromaniacs who like Metallica and talk bollocks about how well they can ride a bike...

Thats pretty much all of West Auckland so we have pissed it....

[Coldrider]

Dear Sir

Are these dudes looking for a job, or a hand out.

kind Regards

[GOONR]

Well, thats the manifesto sorted, all we need now is 500 bourbon and beer swilling pyromaniacs who like Metallica and talk bollocks about how well they can ride a bike...

Thats pretty much all of West Auckland so we have pissed it....

I was so in until you got to the Metallica bit, lost after that I'm afraid.

[Berries]

3. Website works fine... must be the user at our end...
I can only see the landing page, and can't move on. After reading the quote below though I am quite intrigued as to how this primary school project is going to turn out.


If you have any idea's for policie's with regards to how you think that New Zealand can be improved please submit them..

Surely they are taking the piss ?

[Brian d marge]

From what I can see, they do have a good message overall, ie, we are all sick and tired of being lied to by bastard pollies, the unjust way commerce is undertaken, the normal folk not having a fair go and all that kind of malarky.

It is a message that a lot of people in the pubs, cossie clubs and RSA's all over this great nation would say "fair nuff, good on 'em" over a beer or 6.

But how effective can they be..??

I admire them for getting out there, at least they are doing something. At this stage the forums are very much toe in the water stuff, they are looking for ideas.

Best of luck to them I say, you simply never know. I mean, look at Lech Walesa in Poland, geezer was a sparky but he rarked up enough bodies to change the political landscape of that country and pull them out of the regime they were in.

My point is that you can never rubbich or under estimate anyone with a message that the people of this country would get with. Our enemy, as with everything, is apathy I suppose

didn't rubbich win the 86 Hungarian election?

Lech the lechtrician , just stood at the end of the road by the big Green transformer and said vote for me

or else

Apathy is of course the main enemy as it the division of the community, as sad as it sounds we need a community driven ..( union?) party , Grey power with a large voting block to lead the way

though I was thinking the other day ,

we owe money off shore , and even if all kiwis save , I doubt that would be enough to finance the debt ....
therefore exports need to have more value added , and the prime exports we have are sheep and cows , the milk side did well but unless we find a niche , or niches

you could vote a blind one-legged baboon that has predominant office space in the The Dept of Circumlocution

and not a lot will change

The only hope is a party that has SOME sort of social conscience

Stephen

IMHO of course

[paulmac]

if your biker party that involves bourbon, beer, fire, loud music and exaggerating about riding skill and motorcycle performance, then count me in.:yes:

you forgot the sluts !!

[shrub]

Thats pretty much all of West Auckland so we have pissed it....

And most of Christchurch and all of Hamilton.

the Biker Party could have an offshoot who listen to Muse and My Chemical Romance while clustered around their new 1198s, Harleys and Aprilia RSV4s sipping Pinot and Lattes that cater for central Auckland and Wellington.

Me, I'd rather listen to Muddy Waters and Howling Wolf, but then I ride a Triumph, so being stuck in the past is not a point for debate.

[scumdog]

who listen to Muse and My Chemical Romance while clustered around their new......

Who the eff are they??:crazy::wacko::eek5:

[Fatt Max]

Who the eff are they??:crazy::wacko::eek5:

Exactll, pretentious crap.

[Fatt Max]

....why not a Nude Political Party....

Could work, the Greenies would love it eh

[mashman]

....why not a Nude Political Party....

Could work, the Greenies would love it eh

Reckon so :yes:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/217/510601573_a59fa76d1a.jpg

[Fatt Max]

Thats 'kin strange. Topless chick covered in bogie with a saw.......faaarrrkkkkk

[Pixie]

My point is that you can never rubbich or under estimate anyone with a message that the people of this country would get with. Our enemy, as with everything, is apathy I suppose

As you are a recent migrant to NZ I will explain......The Kiwi way is to sit on your arse and do nothing and complain.
When someone does get off their arse to do something you tear it to pieces.
Then you go back to sitting on your arse and doing nothing and complaining..

It alleviates any feelings of inadequacy

[MSTRS]

Careful. Having worked it out, makes you a tall poppy...