NZ speed limit 100kph?

[akoni]

hi

im 2weeks new to NZ, currently im driving car here in mt wellington auckland
but im a motorcycle fanatic back home.

i love riding mc, my question is since NZ have speed limit of 50kph on street
and 100kph on hiways , is it boring to ride a bigbikes with maximum speed of 100kph only?

how do you ride your bikes and maximimized and enjoy the the 600cc and above bikes if the max speed limit allowed is only 100kph?

please enlighten me..

thanks

[Gremlin]

Race tracks don't have a speed limit. NZ has various speed limits ranging from 10 kph to 100 kph (or none, for race tracks).

[Highlander]

Get off the over populated main highways and ride some of the back roads.

[mrchips]

Get off the over populated main highways and ride some of the back roads.

+1

We are blessed with some beautifull scenery + plenty of hills, you don't have to go far to find some.

The low speed limits are there for a reason..... teenagers (they are the ones wrapped around lamposts).

[Maha]

Apparently the 100kph speed limit is just a guideline.

[Berries]

Where are you from if riding a big bike at the legal speed limit isn't boring ?

[Toaster]

Where are you from if riding a big bike at the legal speed limit isn't boring ?

My thoughts exactly.

100km/h feels great on the winding roads.

[Voltaire]

Apparently speed limits are only for other people as all the riders on this forum are just waiting for the call from Rossi to be his team mate.:innocent:

personally I like older less powerful bikes with no fairings, then 100 kmph is fine.

[Taz]

Just goes to show that you don't need a big bore motorcycle in NZ. Kiwi's seem addicted to large sportsbikes when few of our roads are any real fun on them. Imagine how much fun the coro loop could be on a YZFR125?. Maybe then some of you big sportsbike riders could learn about corner speed not just straight line speed?

[AllanB]

Don't worry - there are plenty of idiots on the road around you to stop it being boring.

[bogan]

Apparently the 100kph speed limit is just a guideline.

I thought it was a target :facepalm:

[SMOKEU]

Even when I ride my 250 I have to exercise restraint not to get into the instant 28 day licence suspension kind of speeds.

[jetboy]

Even when I ride my 250 I have to exercise restraint not to get into the instant 28 day licence suspension kind of speeds.

what he said.

[Gremlin]

Apparently the 100kph speed limit is just a guideline.


I thought it was a target :facepalm:
Are you crazy? :shit: I've even seen the boards (on SH16 I think) saying, its not a target...

Perhaps its a hurdle?

[Kickaha]

Are you crazy? :shit: I've even seen the boards (on SH16 I think) saying, its not a target...

Perhaps its a hurdle?

Perhaps a minimum?

[BoristheBiter]

My thoughts exactly.

100km/h feels great on the winding roads.

Go dirt, no speed limit.

See what 100km/h feels like at woodhill.

[BigG]

You'll understand why there is a 100kph speed limit when you get your bike on the road, cos some of the roads are shit ya gota keep looking for pot holes and loose chip. Mind you it makes it exciting.

[mashman]

I thought it was a target :facepalm:

You need to take your eyes of the road for a lot longer than that to read the signs properly :blink:, it says it's not a target as Gremlin noted...

[Berries]

I thought it was a target :facepalm:
It is, look. And not a bad effort.

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[onearmedbandit]

Apparently speed limits are only for other people as all the riders on this forum are just waiting for the call from Rossi to be his team mate.:innocent:

personally I like older less powerful bikes with no fairings, then 100 kmph is fine.

Pah, Rossi did call, but I smoked him so he got the pip.

[Highlander]

My thoughts exactly.

100km/h feels great on the winding roads.

Too fast on some of them.

[miloking]

Just goes to show that you don't need a big bore motorcycle in NZ. Kiwi's seem addicted to large sportsbikes when few of our roads are any real fun on them. Imagine how much fun the coro loop could be on a YZFR125?. Maybe then some of you big sportsbike riders could learn about corner speed not just straight line speed?

Wow, realy....going slow around corner is fun? I better try it sometime... must be due to constant fear of death while riding on shitty entry level bike with crapy brakes and suspension...

Or do you actualy believe that everybody riding larger bike has never riden some "lemon" cc bike while on learners/restricted and thefore we have no idea whats it like to ride slow????

[FJRider]

The trick is not to go over 100 km/hr ... and not go under 100 km/hr ...

braking for corners is for learners ... right ... ???

[bogan]

You need to take your eyes of the road for a lot longer than that to read the signs properly :blink:, it says it's not a target as Gremlin noted...

What I was referring to was the irony of those signs, while they say it isn't a target, the whole speed kills campaign suggests that drivers doing 100 will be fine, which makes it a target.

[slowpoke]

Just goes to show that you don't need a big bore motorcycle in NZ. Kiwi's seem addicted to large sportsbikes when few of our roads are any real fun on them. Imagine how much fun the coro loop could be on a YZFR125?. Maybe then some of you big sportsbike riders could learn about corner speed not just straight line speed?

From someone who roosts a KTM525 not an RM80....pot-kettle-black?

[FJRider]

What I was referring to was the irony of those signs, while they say it isn't a target, the whole speed kills campaign suggests that drivers doing 100 will be fine, which makes it a target.

NO ... just those doing 95 will live longer ... :sunny:

[mashman]

What I was referring to was the irony of those signs, while they say it isn't a target, the whole speed kills campaign suggests that drivers doing 100 will be fine, which makes it a target.

I know... hence the taking your eyes off the road for longer to read the sign :)... damned toneless interweb... It's only a target for revenue collection purposes :shifty:

[akoni]

hi all thanks for the response

i havent been to other places outside auckland
but i guess ther must be some roads outside auckland thats long straigt road
hours of riding.


if 100kph can be achived easily on a car using maybe less than 1/2 gas pedal,
how much more on a bigbike?
10seconds or less your one 100kph?
and maintaining 100kph i on a r6/r1 bigbike i guess is on 1/4throttle or less.

dont you think that will make you sleep while riding on very long stretch road running 1/4 idle throttle and engine noise is like on idle noise?

the reason i asked those is because ive seen bigbikes on motorways..
and i keep on asking how do they enjoy their powerful bikes capable of doing
twice the speed limit.

just asking from a newbie in nz...

[tigertim20]

hi

im 2weeks new to NZ, currently im driving car here in mt wellington auckland
but im a motorcycle fanatic back home.

i love riding mc, my question is since NZ have speed limit of 50kph on street
and 100kph on hiways , is it boring to ride a bigbikes with maximum speed of 100kph only?

how do you ride your bikes and maximimized and enjoy the the 600cc and above bikes if the max speed limit allowed is only 100kph?

please enlighten me..

thanks

hello and welcome, where are you from?

anyway, as to your question, I have an R1, and yes, its fun. Face it, back home, did you never, ever, ever speed? Its about picking your times, and not doing it when there is clear and present danger.

NZ is blessed with lots of hills, winding back roads and all sorts of places that you can go for a damned good hoon, through all the twisties, without actually going over the limit, and have a lot of fun still.

Id suggest yo use Kiwibiker to locate a bunch of other riders in your area, meet up, and go on some group rides. find out where everyone else goes to blow off some steam, find where those fun, back roads are that the cops never bother with because they are so desolate anyway.

Once again, welcome to NZ, enjoy your time here!!

[sinfull]

Troll spotting since 1960 >>>>> Someones obviously wery wery bored

[Toaster]

Go dirt, no speed limit.

See what 100km/h feels like at woodhill.

Good point. I have only done dirt biking once and it was fantastic fun. I doubt the Hayabusa would look too good with knobbly tires on it :blink:

[Marmoot]

the reason i asked those is because ive seen bigbikes on motorways..
and i keep on asking how do they enjoy their powerful bikes capable of doing
twice the speed limit.

It is half the enjoyment indeed, but 100% more than no enjoyment for being stuck in an SUV.

[cheshirecat]

hi

im 2weeks new to NZ, currently im driving car here in mt wellington auckland
but im a motorcycle fanatic back home.

i love riding mc, my question is since NZ have speed limit of 50kph on street
and 100kph on hiways , is it boring to ride a bigbikes with maximum speed of 100kph only?

how do you ride your bikes and maximimized and enjoy the the 600cc and above bikes if the max speed limit allowed is only 100kph?

please enlighten me..

thanks

Doing even 50kph here on a large sports bike is not that boring. There's the local wildlife to avoid in the form of oncomming examples on your side of the road. Tarmac that melts in 23 degrees C. Extensive gravel sections on the main state highways. A delightful 'official' custom of resealing the roads with a comprehensive covering of type 1A ball bearing gravel and omit to sweep the surplus off. The Homer Tunnel - a main tourist route so you can be sure it's A1. An ongoing goverment promise to improve the roads and er . . .

[Pixie]

+1

We are blessed with some beautifull scenery + plenty of hills, you don't have to go far to find some.

The low speed limits are there for a reason..... teenagers (they are the ones wrapped around lamposts).
I'm not a teenager so fuck 'em

[bogan]

Good point. I have only done dirt biking once and it was fantastic fun. I doubt the Hayabusa would look too good with knobbly tires on it :blink:

but the rooster tail would probly be visible from space! :yes:

[avgas]

I ride at the speed limit everywhere. I just keep it in first gear and valve bounce down the road at 100kph.
its great fun.

[akoni]

NZ is blessed with lots of hills, winding back roads and all sorts of places that you can go for a damned good hoon, through all the twisties, without actually going over the limit, and have a lot of fun still.

Id suggest yo use Kiwibiker to locate a bunch of other riders in your area, meet up, and go on some group rides. find out where everyone else goes to blow off some steam, find where those fun, back roads are that the cops never bother with because they are so desolate anyway.

Once again, welcome to NZ, enjoy your time here!!

oh i see i thought NZ is full of motorways where you are stuck to 100kph speed for full day of riding, that makes me bored if thats true... :yes:

but now i know NZ has lots of twisties , heheheh
100kph on twisties is already fast for me.

Is there such existing straight good road in NZ where you can full throttle
your bigbike and test its maximum speed? is there any road exist here in NZ?



I ride at the speed limit everywhere. I just keep it in first gear and valve bounce down the road at 100kph.
its great fun.

now that will surely awaken me by the sound of the engine :D

heres sample video that we did back home.\
its controlled risk though done on backroads (speed is around 100-140kph), lots of fun!
but i believe runs like this cant be done on NZ, right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=okN4werzvr0&t=110

[jonbuoy]

Where are you from if riding a big bike at the legal speed limit isn't boring ?

To be fair if he´s coming from mainland Europe NZ´s two lane highways can feel a bit slow, not boring at all though. 130 is a cruising speed in the "slow" right hand lane, if you want to get into a gap in the left lane you need to really put your foot down.

[NighthawkNZ]

The trick is not to go over 100 km/hr ... and not go under 100 km/hr ...

braking for corners is for learners ... right ... ???

errr what are brakes???

[GSXR Trace]

I haven't read everyone elses comments, so this may have already been said, but...

New Zealand has some awesome winding roads where 100kms (or there abouts) is plenty of fun, if you get a bike go and check out roads like the forgotten highway (between taumaranui and stratford), and the road between wanganui and raetihi, as well as most of the north island east coast, and definitely down the west coast of the south island and all the passes down there... etc etc

Pretty much anywhere on our country roads there are enough corners and possible hazards that 100km aint that bad

but if you really want to twist the trottle there are plenty of track days held all over the country

[Jantar]

errr what are brakes???
Some thing that Yamahas have. While you still have that black 1300cc thing that you use as a loaner, try pulling on that lever thingy on the right hand handle bar. That sudden slowing down feeling is the brakes working.

Ducatis don't go fast enough to need them.

[oldrider]

hi all thanks for the response

i havent been to other places outside auckland
but i guess ther must be some roads outside auckland thats long straigt road
hours of riding.


if 100kph can be achived easily on a car using maybe less than 1/2 gas pedal,
how much more on a bigbike?
10seconds or less your one 100kph?
and maintaining 100kph i on a r6/r1 bigbike i guess is on 1/4throttle or less.

dont you think that will make you sleep while riding on very long stretch road running 1/4 idle throttle and engine noise is like on idle noise?

the reason i asked those is because ive seen bigbikes on motorways..
and i keep on asking how do they enjoy their powerful bikes capable of doing
twice the speed limit.

just asking from a newbie in nz...

Just read the signs, take their advice and "ride to the conditions"! :niceone:
(riding to the conditions means do not exceed statutory limit in the presence of a revenue collecting officer, I.E. one of these. :Police: )

[Berries]

Is there such existing straight good road in NZ where you can full throttle your bigbike and test its maximum speed? is there any road exist here in NZ?
Do a search on "Coro Loop".


To be fair if he´s coming from mainland Europe.....
My money is on Africa.

[Damantis]

to the motorway, there is usually a 100 sign on each edge of the on-ramp. That's actually 200kph, right? :niceone:

[The Everlasting]

It does look like a Troll,Yamaha r6/r1 boring? :laugh:


You don't need to go over a 100 to have fun on any bikes,get into some of the twisties!

[cheshirecat]

You can try these places for a bit of variation

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hillmarc/

[martybabe]

All NZ roads are Toll roads, they are free to use,( providing you have paid the astronomic annual ACC bill), under the posted speed limit .The speed limit signs are actually the speed above which you have to start paying the police to use them, the faster you go the more you have to pay.

I think it would help all road users if they posted the Tolls with the speed signs to avoid confusion. 100kph :Free, 110kph: $60, 120kph $100 ,etc, that way you can travel at the speed you can afford on the day.

There is a cunning way of avoiding the Tolls though which I'm sure you will notice when you've been here a while. Apparently you can bank unused speed, for instance, if you travel in a 100kph zone at 70kph for mile after mile, you can bank the unused 30kph. This then gives you a choice, you can either...reach a passing lane and speed up to 115 kph so the poor bastards that have been stuck behind you forever still cannot get past you, or, (my particular favourite) On reaching a small town with a 50kph limit, you can sail through at your favourite 70kph, apparently with no penalty whatsoever.

Disclaimer: just in case you missed it all the above was a piss take, the posted speed limit is just that 'a limit' boring or not, exceed it at your own risk, for as we all know, travelling at 120kph on an open empty road will ultimately bring the world to an end, and/or make you a less wealthy person.

[UKDave S]

Being a foreigner I am also told that if you coax sufficient sped out of your machine the local constabulary will offer to garage it for you for free

[Gremlin]

Being a foreigner I am also told that if you coax sufficient sped out of your machine the local constabulary will offer to garage it for you for free
No, you're wrong.

You have to pay to garage it. They don't offer either... It's an automatic service.

[scumdog]

No, you're wrong.

You have to pay to garage it. They don't offer either... It's an automatic service.

Not true, - there are certain 'conditions' for that service

But they WILL take it to the garage for you, saves you the effort.

But then again, another cost though.

[Gremlin]

But they WILL take it to the garage for you, saves you the effort.

But then again, another cost though.
That's bloody nice of them. It took 2-3 days to sort a bike pickup the last time it needed one... and it was only 5km to the shop (ok, so I was hardly around, they were busy...)

I still paid for it too. Do you think I could ask the cops to collect my bike and take it down to the shop next time? :eek:

[FJRider]

Not true, - there are certain 'conditions' for that service

But they WILL take it to the garage for you, saves you the effort.

But then again, another cost though.

The "service's" that are offered/provided ... are usually dependant on attitude's at the time ... of either ... or both parties ...

[akoni]

hahaha free pickup of bike :)

[eldog]

I have passed a number of road works recently.
Quite a few originally had 100 kph signs which have been replaced by the open road sign with the black slash.

Apart from the notorious temporarily speed limits which after 6 months become the same permanent limit.

Is this another bit of forward planning so the actual open road limit can be reduced (increased-lol) by the stroke of a pen by some bureaucrat you uses paid public transport to their air conditioned office in the middle of a overhyped city?

Seems to me that the open road limit is set to be reduced maybe after the next election :devil2:

Am I the only one to notice this trend?

[BMWST?]

you are doing well.I have been travelling our fair isles for many yeears now,and i find quite often that i am not sure of the speed limit in force at any one time.There seems to be a different speed llimit sign be it 50,60,70 ,80 or 100 every few hunderd metres in and around any kind of settelement

[ellipsis]

...it's more about the H&S scourge and the sustaining of the myriads of, "we are here to make you safe', companies and the economy than any plan by any govt organisation...it's all about jobs and a general population getting thicker by the year, doing fuck all about it...

[Mr. Peanut]

the reason i asked those is because ive seen bigbikes on motorways..
and i keep on asking how do they enjoy their powerful bikes capable of doing
twice the speed limit.

just asking from a newbie in nz...

Sorry I took 8 years to reply. One can enjoy a big bike at twice the speed limit when the people who enforce said limit are asleep. Rural roads are generally not enforced at 2am on a Sunday... I've heard.

[Berries]

I have passed a number of road works recently.
Quite a few originally had 100 kph signs which have been replaced by the open road sign with the black slash.

Apart from the notorious temporarily speed limits which after 6 months become the same permanent limit.

Is this another bit of forward planning so the actual open road limit can be reduced (increased-lol) by the stroke of a pen by some bureaucrat you uses paid public transport to their air conditioned office in the middle of a overhyped city?

Seems to me that the open road limit is set to be reduced maybe after the next election :devil2:

Am I the only one to notice this trend?
Interesting. The government shot themselves in the foot when they stopped using the derestriction sign. There is an implied message when you use the stripey sign but stick numbers on and it obviously becomes a target. I bet lately that they have been kicking themselves when they realised that if they had left those signs up they could change the open road speed limit across the country at no cost. Clearly a lower open road speed limit is coming, TPTB cannot think beyond speed being the mother of all evil so I guess we will also see draconian levels of enforcement to try and get it to work. Realisation will one day sink in that roads free of death and serious injury won't happen while you let people move along them at anything more than walking pace.

I have not heard of renewed use of the derestriction sign down south but there are major changes afoot and you may well have spotted something. Either that or the road workers are just lazy cunts who cant be bothered seeing what the speed limit should be at the end of their work site.

[eldog]

you are doing well.I have been travelling our fair isles for many yeears now,and i find quite often that i am not sure of the speed limit in force at any one time.There seems to be a different speed llimit sign be it 50,60,70 ,80 or 100 every few hunderd metres in and around any kind of settelement

I remember traveling from Tauranga to Te Puke via scenic route. Suburbs etc there seemed to be changes in speed zones every corner. Dunno if this has improved recently.

Yes plenty of new open road speed signs.
Or temp speed limit signs.
They are obviously getting the H&S message re signage.

Still far too many impatient drivers out there. Seen plenty of near missed lately with people driving through intersections once they deemed they had been there long enough regardless of the give way rules.
about 10 events I have seen - all at or below walking pace. All person impatient drove out directly in front of others. They just pushed their way out. I would have hated to have seen a bike rider being involved with those losers.

Expecting 90 open road limit. With drops to 30 or 40 in around towns.
The message is really move away from central akl and welly etc

[Berries]

Expecting 90 open road limit. With drops to 30 or 40 in around towns.
Bet you $5 it will be 80km/h.

[roogazza]

343720

where will it end ???? :confused:

[rastuscat]

In the news today.

Speed cameras are going to be moved from the responsibility of the Police to that of the NZTA.

It'll be interesting to see how that pans out.

[Berries]

Well they will need them if they want anyone to comply with some of the changes currently being consulted on - https://nzta.govt.nz/about-us/consultations/

[Scuba_Steve]

Seems strange they'd move back to the black stripe; I was told one of the reasons for moving away from them was that NZ was pretty much the only country in the world that limited them, for everyone else they were open speed (any speed goes)... or maybee that's why they're doing it, all that tourist $$$

[eldog]

Bet you $5 it will be 80km/h.

Ok. Raise you a bag of chips

As only seen on KB.

[BMWST?]

Seems strange they'd move back to the black stripe; I was told one of the reasons for moving away from them was that NZ was pretty much the only country in the world that limited them, for everyone else they were open speed (any speed goes)... or maybee that's why they're doing it, all that tourist $$$

black stripe i recall that meaning 90 km/hr OR a speed that is suitable for prevailing conditions.....

[Berries]

It means the underlying open road speed limit now applies (currently 100km/h) and you should travel at a speed suitable for the prevailing conditions. As such it means exactly the same as the 100km/h sign.

Back to Scuba, there are very few countries that have no upper speed limit. If you were in one of those countries I suspect that you would want to travel as fast as possible just in case you were in a minefield.

[eldog]

Speaking of travelling as fast as possible through a minefield. There was a member who professed to travel as fast as possible through intersections, school crossings and the like. To avoid any dangerous events.

I wonder if they were brought up in a no speed limit country? That would explain a lot.

[SaferRides]

The white circle with a black bar means something very different on a German autobahn...