Chinese made scooter

[actionjackson]

Well i will admit it that i own one and love it, ok it has only just ticked over 1500km and is still going strong.

So does anyone else in here own one and how many Kms have they done also have you had any problems with it??

[mattian]

is "Chinese" the brand name? never heard of it.

[actionjackson]

Was pretty much putting all those brands under one hat.. Any scooter made in China (all the ones that every says are cheap and nasty and to stay away from) mine is a 2010 Euro Rider looking good in black

[mattian]

I rode around on a "Kymco" venox 250 (motorcycle) Kymco is a Taiwanese scooter company. Not sure if its in the same league as the Chinese ones though. I rode my Kymco round for over 30,000ks and never had a problem with it.

funny how its called "Euro rider" though....hahaha.

[Spearfish]

Sadly Honda, Suzuki even piaggio (flys) are assembling scoots and bikes in China.

Assembling probably isn't the same as building from scratch/copying though?

I think some of the early major problems were the way they are sold, anyone could import a container of partly assembled bikes and flog them off for as much as the market could stand. The new owner had to put the wheels, panels etc on and do the first start up using a manual with a version of English unknown to the western world. No PD check, no quality control, just six months of warranty (or as long as the container took to sell) and a fist full of paper to get it registered with.

[awayatc]

1500 km's troublefree is a record......

Quit while you'r ahead!

[The Everlasting]

Yep,I used to have one,it was a 2009 Model Eurorider/Solana etc...

I got 2000km trouble free scooting on it,I then sold it because I got into motorbikes,but I loved the little scoot,so easy to park and ride.

At first I wasn't sure if it would last a 100km,but it ran faultlessly until I sold it.

You can tell the build quality isn't as good as the japanese etc,but I only paid $875 for a brand new one,and I had no complaints about it.

I actually miss it,and if I could afford to keep 3 vehicles I would have kept it.

$2 got me 100km!! :D

[actionjackson]

1500 km's troublefree is a record......

Quit while you'r ahead!

Why is that?? Am sure I can get alot more out of her and parts seem readily available??

[Taz]

Did you know that in China several million people own chinese scooters? I'm just saying....

[davereid]

1500 km's troublefree is a record......

Quit while you'r ahead!


I used to run a scooter shop, still run a workshop.

Chinese scooters were my best friend, as I did not sell them.

I made way more money fixing them than I made from selling quality scooters, which never came back for repairs.

I never saw one with more than 2000km on the clock that was worth anything. None older than 1000km could have got any kind of WOF - lucky they dont need one.

Your mileage may vary.

[Gibbo89]

I did 2600 k's on my chinese scooter, and it was a 2 stroke. No issues while I owned it. Top speed was 70kph, but was happy at 60 to 65

[HenryDorsetCase]

I rode around on a "Kymco" venox 250 (motorcycle) Kymco is a Taiwanese scooter company. Not sure if its in the same league as the Chinese ones though. I rode my Kymco round for over 30,000ks and never had a problem with it.

funny how its called "Euro rider" though....hahaha.

I have been looking at scooters lately and doing a bit of research. Kymco are pretty highly rated: the story I read (internet but might be bullshit) is that the Kymco plant started in 1963 by Honda to build their stuff cheaper. Now has its own brand and also builds engines for BMW (the singles and the cparallel twins?). Ive ridden a couple and they're pretty good. Allegedly parts availability is not great in NZ, but what you need you can get online pretty easily.

What I really want is a Vespa LX150, but upwards of $4k ?? I dont think a price premium of over a grand is justified for functional (if not stylistic) equivalency.

I have looked at a couple of the Chinese brands: the Baotian ones seem OK, but I will steer away from them at purchase time.

[Gibbo89]

the Baotian ones seem OK, but I will steer away from them at purchase time.

I had the 'Tiger' Baotian, go into Escuta and have a squizz at them if you want. Hayden is the mechanic (he used to race bikes I think) and Malcolm is the manager there. They were always really helpful to me and they said they had access to a hell of a lot of spares for Baotian in NZ.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Scooters/auction-345449883.htm

That one is the one like mine. If you want me to compare between my old Suzuki Sepia then I will, but obviously it might not be relevant to this particular thread.

[actionjackson]

is the Tiger' Baotian a Chinese made scooter??

Was in Wootons the other day having a browse and they had a solana in getting its 10,000km check up done. Talking to the owner he said just like anything if they are well looked after and regularly maintained that there is no reason they cant do more then the 2000km people give them credit for..

With this in mind if i was to install
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=344660784
this into my Euro rider would the engine be able to handle it or would it then just be stretching it to the MAX, any input people??

[sgtp]

I bought my chinese made SACHS in Feb 2010 with 50km and now have 6500km on it. I did not have the luxury of inhereting the balance for the shop warranty, which sucked.

The only real issues were:

- retuning the carb (first carb I ever tuned so it was a pain to get right)
- the rear axel nut came loose (how the F does that happen?)
- seat storage latch broke. I fixed it with a zip tie and a bottle cap :niceone:

I think this scoot can easily go 20,000km or more.... or about 2000km more if I decide to mod the engine :o

[actionjackson]

What mods are you looking at making??

[Expert]

i don't usually have anything to do with scooters and when my friends husband asked me to service his baotian 50cc i nearly spewed.
but, i was suprised how well made it is, it's better put together than a hyosung.
he's got 4500ks on it and the valve clearances were all in spec, everything was fine, nice little scooter.
there's a wire on the right hand side which you can reach by just putting your fingers under the side panel, disconnect this and the speed limiter is defeated and it'll do 60+ kms on the flat and faster downhill. still slow uphill though. enjoy.

[bonteli]

used/still ride an arrow50 cheap chinese brand i got new for $1200. sitting at the gas station right now. got my learners and upgraded to a suzuki fxr150 :)

done 3600kms so far on the scooter. first had to replace the ctv belt around 2000kms, paid only $30 for it as it was still under warranty. then had a snapped speedo cable which they kindly enough replaced for free. and just 3 days ago was using the scooter to come back with my gf and the belt snapped off so waiting on a mechanic to get to it now :(

my opinion: they're cheap to run/fix but inconvenience is an issue for me especially when the belt snaps at 11pm after buses stop!

[DangerMice]

1600km on a drive belt? Man, before I finally got around to replacing it, my last belt went 15,000km. Hope it was just a bad belt. :yes:

[HappyGOriding]

Well i will admit it that i own one and love it, ok it has only just ticked over 1500km and is still going strong.

So does anyone else in here own one and how many Kms have they done also have you had any problems with it??

Wife has a Vmoto Milan. Aussie company but chinese made. Shes done over 4000ks and only had to replace the automatic choke. The motors are rock solid its whats bolted around them thats second rate.

[STUFF]

Hi! I you have a beginner, I far but mopeds are the same everywhere ...

I am over 10 years in sales of scooters in Ukraine. Through my hands and my staff has been more than 2.000 scooters. China, I did not trade. In Ukraine, before this time was the law, and more 49ss a motorcycle, and this recording, and documents, driving license. And as a custom vehicle.
So almost all the Chinese scooters more than 49ss and 63ss it, 75ss, 82ss!
Because they can travel more than 2.000 km without damage, if not the rejection!

In principle, the quality of tolerating, if not rejected again! A very sore spots are - Kick, a membrane carburetor (choke), camshaft and cylinder head.

This is all the fault of cheap quality and no control of production technology.

Practice proves better than second-hand Japanese than Chinese New!

You probably will not lose in price, but will win in the power and reliability!

[Micky101]

I own one of those solana scooters, the ones that look nasty and sound it too, but to be honest..no trouble at all, and ive done about 5100 km on it..