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Dodgy
9th January 2011, 11:50
Hi ya

I am looking at some Tyga fairings for my MC28 and have a bit of concern over the lights.

Has anyone got Tyga fairing with Tyga lights on their bikes - and have they had any dramas with passing WOFs? The Tyga lights do not have any standards stamps on them

cheers

notme
9th January 2011, 15:59
The Tyga lights do not have any standards stamps on them


The WOF rules are quite clear that non standards approved lights are a FAIL. However, from a quick search I can't find specific wording that says the standars must be printed on the lights themselves....although if they WERE compliant, why wouldn't the manufacturer put the markings on?

I think you're heading for an immediate fail :-(

Marmoot
9th January 2011, 16:55
Low Volume Vehicle Certification threshold can be found at http://www.lvvta.org.nz/CertThresholdScheduleApril04V3.pdf

Interestingly, the bit about fitting or modification to "Lamps [that are substituted for OE or additional]" says "the fitting or modification to any lamps does not require LVV Certification".

However, it also mentions that "in-service requirements for condition and performance must be met".
I would assume this refers to the beam pattern and aim. In other words, it may seem to be the case that if the headlights perform similar to the original in terms of lighting ability and beam pattern/aim, then it would be fine.

I may be wrong, so please feel free to correct if anyone has better quotable source.

98tls
9th January 2011, 17:08
Good luck with this fella,the WOF system and whats required re lights and stamped numbers etc is a real shitbox,i fitted an aftermarket undertray years back on my old TL,when it came WOF time the local guy didnt want a bar of it regardless of the fact they were actually better than oem as in LEDs,About six months later i got a call from said local guy who had been talking to some bloke doing the rounds checking on those that do WOFs and it turned out there was no actual requirement for the lights to have any particular numbers stamped on them and that and many other such "facts" belived by many including people doing WOFs was just a load of hogwash.As i say go as high up the chain as you can to ascertain the facts as on the internet and as in my case a bike shop theres plenty of rumours around this stuff.Good luck.

notme
9th January 2011, 17:19
OK, so to clarify what I said above - here's the very boring details from the LTSA or whatever they are called nowadays.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/classes-standards/list.html#component

You'll note that for component standards for side marker lamps, direction indicators, stop lamps etc they all start with "must meet standards below" then list them all.

So, if one of those standards is stamped on the unit, the WOF guy can put a tick in his box and pass it. If not, the burden of proof is on you to find a way to prove that they are up to standard....they'd have to be pretty awesome lights for me to want to take up that battle!

The OP doesn't mention what the lights are - do these fairings come with headlights? Indicators? Taillights? All of the above? Not that it really matters as the link applies to all lights, but I'm interested because while an aftermarket indicator might not have a standards marking, I'd be surprised if a more significant light such as a headlight or stoplight wasn't marked.

bogan
9th January 2011, 17:28
yeh my mate has got a MC28 (i'm fairly sure it's that model) with a kit on it (think it's tyga), he got his certed last year, they bitched about the rear indicator stalks but the lights were fine. I can ask if they checked for any numbers or whatever on the lenses if you want?

Here's a pic of it

98tls
9th January 2011, 17:33
OK, so to clarify what I said above - here's the very boring details from the LTSA or whatever they are called nowadays.

http://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicle/classes-standards/list.html#component

You'll note that for component standards for side marker lamps, direction indicators, stop lamps etc they all start with "must meet standards below" then list them all.

So, if one of those standards is stamped on the unit, the WOF guy can put a tick in his box and pass it. If not, the burden of proof is on you to find a way to prove that they are up to standard....they'd have to be pretty awesome lights for me to want to take up that battle!

The OP doesn't mention what the lights are - do these fairings come with headlights? Indicators? Taillights? All of the above? Not that it really matters as the link applies to all lights, but I'm interested because while an aftermarket indicator might not have a standards marking, I'd be surprised if a more significant light such as a headlight or stoplight wasn't marked.

Hear what your saying fella though just saying it as ive experienced it,the bike shop that 1ST turned me down then rang me and said "tis ok" are pretty tough on the WOF thing and for this bloke to reverse his decision im betting he has it right.Pic of said rear lights fwiw.Neither lights or indicators have any numbers nor does the number plate light fwiw,they did fwiw make me find a rear reflector,bought a $10 pushbike one cut it in 1/2.

98tls
9th January 2011, 17:37
yeh my mate has got a MC28 (i'm fairly sure it's that model) with a kit on it (think it's tyga), he got his certed last year, they bitched about the rear indicator stalks but the lights were fine. I can ask if they checked for any numbers or whatever on the lenses if you want?

Here's a pic of it

:woohoo:Sweet wee bike indeed.

Latte
9th January 2011, 19:17
cbf checking but tyga used to do a "suzuka" kit that used a vfr400 headlight for low beam, and a projector light for the high beam, with the vfr light being standards stamped it made it easier to get through these issues at wof time , even though the non-stamped projector was a far better light.

and mho it lookedf better than the "tyga eyes" kits.

Dodgy
9th January 2011, 21:20
Hi, thanks for the great responses so far.

It is for a fairing kit for the MC28 - the RSW kit.

The kit had an integrated headlight and indicator housing for the front and an LED tail light for the rear, that requires separate indicators. Of note is the fact that the rear does not include a tail light, but i can easily rectify that with a supplementary light.

According to Tyga, the dip does not have any left or right bias, making it suitable for left or right hand drive. Anecdotal evidence suggests that the brightness and visibility is at least as good as the OEM units.

Rather than purchase, paint and fit these, only to find that they are non warrantably, i thought it a good idea to see if anyone had experience with these. If the RSW unit is not a goer, then there is the option of the NSR500 fairing. The ram air duct in the snout is of a large enough size to accommodate a 40mm projector lampmor two. A vtnz station thatbinfrequent appears to only take a very casual look at bikes when theybtest them - last time they only did a visual of the brakes and didn't dona test ride at all!

98tls
9th January 2011, 21:46
Whatever the outcome mate be sure and post up the ending eh.

notme
10th January 2011, 06:46
It comes down to a gamble IMHO - it might be fine forever, or it might get failed first time, or you might get it passed for the next 10 WOF's and then one day the inspector picks up one of the non compliant things, then you have a problem!

All the info is here anyway http://www.nzta.govt.nz. Good Luck! :-)

Latte
10th January 2011, 08:09
there's also the swap in / swap out option at wof time like all the skiddy kids do with their chopped springs.

MC21/28 Headlights are fairly cheap, no need for fairings at wof time.

Another thing to note is an original NSR will be worth more than a modded one in the future, as they are becoming rarer - it's still possible to get original fairing bits from Japan (2nd hand but good nick).

Dodgy
10th January 2011, 11:01
Yes, thanks for the comments.

I have a spare set of fairings and tank as well. The spare tank will be repainted, leaving the original fairings as is.

Yep, they are sweet bikes. Gutless, but fun as only a stroker can be!