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morg_nz
19th January 2011, 19:37
saw one on tm, i was thinking of buying a new exc200 one day - i want the lightness of my 125 but with some more power so thought hte exc200 would be well suited to the majority of my riding which is trials

then saw the kdx - whats this like as a comparison?

Rupe
19th January 2011, 19:51
saw one on tm, i was thinking of buying a new exc200 one day - i want the lightness of my 125 but with some more power so thought hte exc200 would be well suited to the majority of my riding which is trials

then saw the kdx - whats this like as a comparison?

exc200 is good, light, and quick. The kdx I had felt big, clumsey, and cornered like a shopping trolley full of logs.

morg_nz
19th January 2011, 19:54
exc200 is good, light, and quick. The kdx I had felt big, clumsey, and cornered like a shopping trolley full of logs.

yeah i noticed they were a bit heavier - i take it the suspension on the kdx is nothing on the exc?

honda_power
19th January 2011, 20:14
i think you would be disappointed with pretty much every aspect of a kdx200 coming off a 125.

morg_nz
19th January 2011, 20:21
i think you would be disappointed with pretty much every aspect of a kdx200 coming off a 125.

slower? crapper suspension? heavier?

the main thing i like bout my 125 is how light it is and how much i can throw it round. problem is that im a fat shit (90kg's, 168cm tall) and it really struggles down low sometimes (i think 125's were made for 60kg teenagers lol!)

most of all i like the 2 stroke - rode a 250f ktm, i was defiately quicker but it was so booring, and it was like being in school siting up so straight!

Buddy L
19th January 2011, 20:24
Get your self a newer 125, they have alot more bottom end then the 2001 that you have. Not massive bottom end, but it might be just what you are after.

morg_nz
19th January 2011, 20:25
Get your self a newer 125, they have alot more bottom end then the 2001 that you have. Not massive bottom end, but it might be just what you are after.

yeah i rode an 07 kx125 and it felt like riding my mates 250sx

honda_power
19th January 2011, 20:25
all of the above. what about a 250, they seem a little scary first ride, but you do get used to them

morg_nz
19th January 2011, 20:28
all of the above. what about a 250, they seem a little scary first ride, but you do get used to them

yeah they do seem scary fast lol - my mate has the 250sx, i have ridden it a few times and just hop on and put it in 3rd and it still scares me shitless. but he's had it for twice as long as i've had my cr (he's had his 3 years) and he rides faster than he first did, but he never rides it with the throttle wide open like i can do on my 125. i think thats one of the things thats cool bout the 125's is that you can give them everything

t595
19th January 2011, 20:33
slower? crapper suspension? heavier?

the main thing i like bout my 125 is how light it is and how much i can throw it round. problem is that im a fat shit (90kg's, 168cm tall) and it really struggles down low sometimes (i think 125's were made for 60kg teenagers lol!)

most of all i like the 2 stroke - rode a 250f ktm, i was defiately quicker but it was so booring, and it was like being in school siting up so straight!

The 200exc feels like a 125 to throw around,has power more like a 250 than a 125 tho but still has the 125 buzz to ride.

honda_power
19th January 2011, 20:33
that depends on the rider, theyre not really that much faster than a 125, its just all down low, spend a week on it to get used to bottom end power and youl be sweet.

morg_nz
19th January 2011, 20:42
The 200exc feels like a 125 to throw around,has power more like a 250 than a 125 tho but still has the 125 buzz to ride.

what doyou prefer - your yz or the exc?

t595
19th January 2011, 20:50
what doyou prefer - your yz or the exc?

Thats a tough one!! 125 for racing, 200 for trailriding and pissing around. try a ktm150 if you can,theyre the shit!!!

morg_nz
19th January 2011, 20:52
Thats a tough one!! 125 for racing, 200 for trailriding and pissing around. try a ktm150 if you can,theyre the shit!!!

yeah i've seen a couple on tm, how much more power?

t595
19th January 2011, 20:59
yeah i've seen a couple on tm, how much more power?
More bottom end,can lug it a bit easier. im same weight as you so duznt require as much effort as a 125

Azzman
20th January 2011, 07:29
Yea going to the KDX from the 125 is going backwards but I bet you would love the power if more down low is what you crave...so go the ktm200. As someone said like a 125 but with decent power everywhere.

NordieBoy
20th January 2011, 09:12
Stick a KDX200 donk in the 125 frame and you'd be set :niceone:

quallman1234
20th January 2011, 09:28
A KDX alround is a good TRIAL bike. But no MXer thats for sure.
I like my one, but am possibly riding it faster than its made to be nowadays....

SpikedPunch
20th January 2011, 09:42
Bit heavy for a trial bike aint it...:bleh:

scott411
20th January 2011, 09:58
A KDX alround is a good TRIAL bike. But no MXer thats for sure.
I like my one, but am possibly riding it faster than its made to be nowadays....

comes down to the rider, i won the south island supercross champs in teh expert class on a KDX220 once, and won 2 races at Tokoroa the same year,

KDX's are old in technolgy these days, good bikes that go well, but from a 125 you would be dissapointed in the handling,

i wish kawasaki would make a new one,

NordieBoy
20th January 2011, 10:32
comes down to the rider, i won the south island supercross champs in teh expert class on a KDX220 once, and won 2 races at Tokoroa the same year,

KDX's are old in technolgy these days, good bikes that go well, but from a 125 you would be dissapointed in the handling,

i wish kawasaki would make a new one,

That's why little bro wants a modern 250 rolling chassis.

scott411
20th January 2011, 10:39
a guy in waiuku has just put a KDX200 motor into a 07 RMZ250 frame, and done a very nice job of it, i have not ridden it yet but those that have are wrapped with it,

when 5 or so year old 250F's go bang big time it is not economic to rebuild them, so the rolling chassis do come up for sale,

mfordy
20th January 2011, 10:56
a guy in waiuku has just put a KDX200 motor into a 07 RMZ250 frame, and done a very nice job of it, i have not ridden it yet but those that have are wrapped with it,

when 5 or so year old 250F's go bang big time it is not economic to rebuild them, so the rolling chassis do come up for sale,

And here it is!.. Affectionately known as the RMX200D
229495229494229493229492

honda_power
20th January 2011, 11:45
shit thats well done

personally i hate everything about kdx's though, motor incl. an rm250 in that frame would have been nice

scott411
20th January 2011, 11:54
its horses for courses, alot of poeple find a 250 2t power to much, KDX's put power on the ground very well, even in there very old chassis they put alot of riders to shame,

you should join Booom in the KDX haters club :bleh::bleh::bleh::bleh:

Reckless
20th January 2011, 14:42
its horses for courses, alot of poeple find a 250 2t power to much, KDX's put power on the ground very well, even in there very old chassis they put alot of riders to shame,

you should join Booom in the KDX haters club :bleh::bleh::bleh::bleh:

Scott that is a very nice job! Best of both worlds!!

And I'm one of those that found the 250 power a little to much! Riding is a lot more pleasurable going to the Ktm200. Rather be riding a 2hundy hard than hesitant on a 250.

oldguy
20th January 2011, 16:57
Stick a KDX200 donk in the 125 frame and you'd be set :niceone:

I recall clmintie saying something similar.

honda_power
20th January 2011, 17:36
its horses for courses, alot of poeple find a 250 2t power to much, KDX's put power on the ground very well, even in there very old chassis they put alot of riders to shame,

you should join Booom in the KDX haters club :bleh::bleh::bleh::bleh:

haha yeh well i just think that a kdx in a full blown af chassis is a bit of a waste... even a rm125 in that chassis would have been nice. its kinda like ripping the engine out of a rx7 and putting a corolla engine in it so its easier to handle.

it certainly is well done though

B0000M
20th January 2011, 19:16
you should join Booom in the KDX haters club :bleh::bleh::bleh::bleh:

who said i hated kdx's?

i dont hate them, i just wouldnt reccommend anyone spent any serious money on one as there are better bikes out there for most people budgets and needs

morg_nz
20th January 2011, 19:47
And here it is!.. Affectionately known as the RMX200D
229495229494229493229492

awesome! i want one!

warewolf
22nd January 2011, 14:12
its horses for courses, alot of poeple find a 250 2t power to much, KDX's put power on the ground very wellYou answered my question before I asked it: why? :D

KDX200s are very capable bikes. Having seen/raced with NordieBoy's brother, it won't be the bike that holds you back! May even be a help in TRAIL (not trials, get it right dudes!) and similar cross-country riding with its plush suspension.

A&R
28th January 2011, 22:32
And here it is!.. Affectionately known as the RMX200D
229495229494229493229492

Brilliant that's what I need. Moved from the crf250x to the kdx200 and for some reason i'm twice as fast. Reckon I be even better with that frame. Just love the kdx motor.

Dutchee
28th January 2011, 22:50
KDX is a 15+ year old bike. No development done on it since 96. It would've been nice for Kawasaki to have changed the forks, sorted suspension, lighten the frame, but it won't happen. It's a 2 stroke.

I barely ride off-road these days, and no way in hell can I justify upgrading the KDX. I know to watch out for ruts (not a bad idea anyway), thankfully I still enjoy occasionally riding a bike I've had since around 2000. (ridden it heaps earlier on, but now have other biking interests as well, hence the slackness of riding offroad these days)

Jay GTI
29th January 2011, 07:46
That RMX200 is awesome!

Agree with some comments, 250 2T is too much for a lot of people. My '05 RM250 was torquey enough to short-shift and keep things semi-sensible on the trails, but once I got anywhere near the top end anywhere that wasn't a long straight or on the beach, it was just hard work. A 200 with a decent chassis makes a lot more sense... exc or something like that RMX hybrid.

mfordy
29th January 2011, 14:07
Just upgraded my KDX200 to a '08 KX125. Difference in handling is like night and day:2thumbsup. Will be interesting next trail ride to see how much harder I have to work. Almost brought a KX250 but it was too much for an aging weekend warrior like me - needed to find a rut/berm/trailer to stand on just to start it!

Buddy L
29th January 2011, 15:40
Just upgraded my KDX200 to a '08 KX125.

I changed from a KDX220 to a CR125, and my riding improved alot faster as well.

honda_power
30th January 2011, 08:02
great deal for someone who wants a cheap kdx

custom graphics and frame paint, custom pillowcase seat cover. 04 model, $1000

carver is trying to sort the funds for it, but first in first served

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Dirt-bikes/auction-349903890.htm