Failed WOF on brake pads being worn

[1vanvan1]

Hey guys,

I just took my bike to VTNZ for a WOF and the guy failed it on the brake pads being worn.

Brought it back home and took them off to have a look. To me they seem to be ok, yes they are a little low but still well within the limits of being servicable. I was quoted about $180 for a full set of new pads. 2 on front and 1 on back.

What do you guys think? are they ok?

Should I take the pads to the guy at VTNZ and show them to him?

[White trash]

Well it's pretty fricken hard to gauge how much meat's left on the from that angle.

Rookie.

[onearmedbandit]

From that somewhat useless pic they look near the end of their life. A pic showing them from the side so we could see how much 'meat' is left on them would actually help.

[White trash]

From that somewhat useless pic they look near the end of their life. A pic showing them from the side so we could see how much 'meat' is left on them would actually help.

Haha, beat ya to it.

Rookie #2.

[FJRider]

A fail means you have to fix the problem he found.

There is no choice or arguement.

Untill your pads are replaced ... no WOF and the bike isn't legal on the road.

[onearmedbandit]

Haha, beat ya to it.



Every dog has their day eh.

[marty]

trim the wear indicators deeper, then repaint them with black spray bomb paint. refit them and go back for a recheck.

or don't be a tightarse, and get new ones.

[imdying]

Jeepers Marty, if we stuck a piece of coal up your arse it'd come out as a diamond :laugh:

[racefactory]

A pic from that angle is fucking useless.

Show us them from the side... if they are ok then it was probably the inspector in a bad day, take it back when he's not there and get it passed. VTNZ are nice easy passes most of the time but they cause a headache sometimes.

[DEATH_INC.]

Put some shiney new one's in there. Better safe than sorry. He must have failed them for a reason.

[Max Preload]

Meh, nothing wrong with them - they look to have 1.5-2mm remaining judging from the pictures, although as other have subtley hinted at, a side view would be helpful. Considering they only come with about 6-7mm, that's plenty. You can still see the gassing grooves. They might need replacing befre the next WoF depending on the mileages you do so just keep an eye on them, as you should be anyway.


A fail means you have to fix the problem he found.

There is no choice or argument.


Put some shiney new one's in there. Better safe than sorry. He must have failed them for a reason.

Not true. He could just be an overly cautious idiot who despite having a bike license doesn't realise how thin the pads are to begin with.

[Katman]

Generally speaking manufacturers minimum specs for brake pad thickness is 0.5mm.

[FJRider]

Not true. He could just be an overly cautious idiot who despite having a bike license doesn't realise how thin the pads are to begin with.

Cautious or not ... any complaint made to the testing station, and it will be found the tester was within his rights ... if HE believed it was unsafe. It is HIS authority (read livelyhood) to issue WOF's at stake.

However ... the original poster is within HIS rights to make an official complaint to the testing station. ... GOOD LUCK

In the meantime ... the bike is on the computer as being unsafe to be on the road. Regardless if the WOF (old) label has not expired.

WOF labels only mean it was deemed to be safe on the day it was issued.

Side note ...As I recall ... testers do not need a licence for all the vehicles they test.

[Paul in NZ]

Um - prob the only course of address is to track down the minimum spec from Honda and measure the things? You can buy a cheap as chips plastic set of calipers from M10 or whatever

[R6_kid]

Pretty sure the lines are the wear markers.

Should be $45 per side up front and around the same on the rear. Don't get sold fully sintered or "HH" pads, you don't need race spec stoppers for the riding you do.

[JMemonic]

$180 for a set of pads, you went original didn't you?

Ask around at other shops you should be able to pick up a good set of pads for less than that. Even at $180 they are cheaper than a ticket for no wof, considerably cheaper than using public transport for 6-12 months when if you have a collision that gets your license suspended etc.

Why for the life of me folks complain about needing to replace brake components but will happily pay money to get a theoretical half brake horse power out of a bike is beyond me, oh and tell some folks they need to bleed their brakes to flush the fluid out every couple of years and you would think you have suggested replacing the vehicle every two years, odd, very odd.

[Brian d marge]

Those pads ( from the photos ) look OK , previous poster haven't lead anyone astray

This isn't the point that worries me ,

its the Knowledge of the testers ( the people that test )

I personally haven't had a problem , ( did a Jag restoration back in the day , which needed structural work, and popped down asked what they required , did the repair , presented , boxes checked,, all good

but

those pads and other stories , worries me

IF the part is sound and it gets rejected , what appeals are there .....

I'm not too hot with the idea of say an apprentice telling a mechanic what to do

in so many words

Stephen

ps , as pads wear they have trouble dissipating heat and can warp and stick

Cbr pads . rotate on the pin and Jam / wedge and dont free easily , I sometimes used to use a bush , so that the pad didnt rock ( you will see if you look )


Stephen

[oneofsix]

To quote Bill, something smells in the stat of Denmark.
The wear-markers indicate there is still meat on the old pads. Have had problems with VTNZ brake testing the bike - yet, but have had with cars. New pads there test is liable to tell you it is pulling to one side. Adjusted the crap out of the automatic adjuster, same result umm slight improvement. Went to another tester, garage this time, broke perfectly straight, even tested it on the gravel where his underground tanks had been removed and straight as a die. He had the same problem with new pads at VTNZ on a car he had done and another car had been brought to him with the same issue at VTNZ. BTW he had find another fault that was missed by VTNZ and fixed that.
I have also had them me my brakes were getting low, that was two year ago, still the same pads and passes its 6 monthly check, first time we bothered to check the pads, second time ignored them. They passed its WOF the next time no comment.
Take VTNZ brake testing with a grain of salt. They do the best with what they have but sometimes a second opinion is worth it.
Smile you now have new pads and know are safe. :niceone:

[1vanvan1]

Pretty sure the lines are the wear markers.

Should be $45 per side up front and around the same on the rear. Don't get sold fully sintered or "HH" pads, you don't need race spec stoppers for the riding you do.

Yeah, Was quoted $75 a side for the front and $50 for the rear.

[1vanvan1]

To quote Bill, something smells in the stat of Denmark.
The wear-markers indicate there is still meat on the old pads. Have had problems with VTNZ brake testing the bike - yet, but have had with cars. New pads there test is liable to tell you it is pulling to one side. Adjusted the crap out of the automatic adjuster, same result umm slight improvement. Went to another tester, garage this time, broke perfectly straight, even tested it on the gravel where his underground tanks had been removed and straight as a die. He had the same problem with new pads at VTNZ on a car he had done and another car had been brought to him with the same issue at VTNZ. BTW he had find another fault that was missed by VTNZ and fixed that.
I have also had them me my brakes were getting low, that was two year ago, still the same pads and passes its 6 monthly check, first time we bothered to check the pads, second time ignored them. They passed its WOF the next time no comment.
Take VTNZ brake testing with a grain of salt. They do the best with what they have but sometimes a second opinion is worth it.
Smile you now have new pads and know are safe. :niceone:

I haven't yet bought new pads. Still weighing up my options.

[The Pastor]

I'd just go to another wof station, if you fail at one, you can keep going (and paying) to other stations till u get a pass

[sinfull]

Who uses them anyway ! Fuck it i say we protest !

[1vanvan1]

Took the pads down to the station today. He said they are getting a little low but still perfectly safe. Will take the bike down for the break test next week.

[racefactory]

I'd just go to another wof station, if you fail at one, you can keep going (and paying) to other stations till u get a pass

Agree... just take it to another station.

[Shadows]

Seeing as you've already gone to all the trouble of removing them you may as well replace them, Gorse Pockets.

[GN1NiteStnd]

Hey guys,
I just got a wof and now my front brakes are squeaking. Does that mean they are low? or could there be another reason. I would have thought they would have checked it with my wof, maybe they were just slack.

Sam

[Spuds1234]

Just glazed pads probably.

Whip them out and have a look and rough up the pads as much as you can before you put them back in. May or may not fix the squeaking.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well it's pretty fricken hard to gauge how much meat's left on the from that angle.

Rookie.


From that somewhat useless pic they look near the end of their life. A pic showing them from the side so we could see how much 'meat' is left on them would actually help.

Pair of rookies. Looks to me like they're pretty much worn down to the wear limit grooves. Replace the pads.