Geeks - what do you know about SEO?

[Big Dave]

(For the non-geeks it stands for search engine optimisation.)

So far I got:

That the meta tags should be tight and thorough.
The CSS should all validate.
Flash is a hinderance.
The fatter the download the lower the ranking.
Clean code is imperative.

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[Edbear]

(For the non-geeks it stands for search engine optimisation.)

So far I got:

That the meta tags should be tight and thorough.
The CSS should all validate.
Flash is a hinderance.
The fatter the download the lower the ranking.
Clean code is imperative.

?

For everything there is to know and for guaranteed long term effective results, email my son-in-law, rudy@yhp.co.nz For an example of his work, scratch-built and number one in all targetted categories, have a look at www.jamesblond.co.nz

[Big Dave]

Thanks - but no thanks - I want to suss it for myself. Can't be rocket science!

[NighthawkNZ]

(For the non-geeks it stands for search engine optimisation.)

So far I got:

That the meta tags should be tight and thorough.
The CSS should all validate.
Flash is a hinderance.
The fatter the download the lower the ranking.
Clean code is imperative.

?

You only really have to worry about SEO if you are using a php Dynamic site... if you are straight HTML then it is search engine friendly.

Most applications, like word press, joomla, vBullein, phpBB3, have a setting for SEO

[imdying]

(For the non-geeks it stands for search engine optimisation.)

So far I got:

That the meta tags should be tight and thorough.
The CSS should all validate.
Flash is a hinderance.
The fatter the download the lower the ranking.
Clean code is imperative.

?Getting yourself linked from other highly ranked sites is a good plan.

[Big Dave]

You only really have to worry about SEO if you are using a php Dynamic site... if you are straight HTML then it is search engine friendly.

Most applications, like word press, joomla, vBullein, phpBB3, have a setting for SEO

Taa - I have a client paying a SEO company and all I think he has done is check the code and install google analytics on the pages. Simple HTML site.

[Edbear]

No thanks - I want to suss it for myself. Can't be rocket science!

Not quite, no, but to learn it and do it well is a painstaking process and there are some tricks and secrets and some bad pitfalls if you don't do it right. That's why I recommend Rudy. He's spent years doing website building, hosting and SEO/SEM using templates and building from scratch. He was doing high end internet marketing in Germany for major international companies and also was in a partnership contracted to Sony to manage new talent in their own studio.

[Big Dave]

Not quite, no, but to learn it and do it well is a painstaking process and there are some tricks and secrets and some bad pitfalls if you don't do it right.

Such as?

Don't get me wrong, As noted - I'm struggling to see what the charge to my client is for. (He's not BTW - but I can see and understand the html.)

[Big Dave]

Getting yourself linked from other highly ranked sites is a good plan.

Yea. Add 'traffic' to the list.

[Edbear]

Such as?

Don't get me wrong, As noted - I'm struggling to see what the charge to my client is for. (He's not BTW - but I can see and understand the html.)

Some stuff like keywords is quite simple to learn. I do content writing and there's a trick to that as well. Some who promise quick results with SEO have wound up getting the website blacklisted for trying to do shortcuts that Google don't like, esp in the area of Link building. There's a lot do do with the layout of the homepage, how the footer is set up, how each page is linked within the site and how to link each page to maximise the way the search engine's find you. It's way over my head I'm afraid.

Where Rudy is good is in knowing what's a waste of time and money and what other things work aside from what most people know about.

[EJK]

Add "Porn" and "XXX" to Keywords. The view rate should double the next day.

[StoneY]

Block the Google cache crawler called Googlebot at your firewall mate
Massive resource hogger

[cbfb]

(For the non-geeks it stands for search engine optimisation.)

So far I got:

That the meta tags should be tight and thorough.
The CSS should all validate.
Flash is a hinderance.
The fatter the download the lower the ranking.
Clean code is imperative.

?

Meta tags less important these days, what's to stop you putting any old rubbish in there to fool the SE?

Doesn't matter SO much that CSS validates (although for other reasons this is good, presume you use W3C), as long as you're not writing terrible CSS, more important is how you use it, example: http://www.cssnewbie.com/4-ways-css-can-improve-your-seo/

Yes, but not just flash. You have to be careful serving content using images which obviously can't be 'read' by a SE.

Download speed is the factor, so a 10kb file on a crap server may rank average, whereas a 100kb file on a good server may rank the same.

Again this should be a given. It should validate to W3C standards.

There is a LOT more to SEO than this mind you, gone are the days of adding a few meta tags.

Let me know your site's address if you want, I can see if I can suggest anything.

Good luck.

[Big Dave]

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Good luck.

Thanks for that - yeah - I've been validating everything on W3C, the (not motorcycles) site in question is about to be rebuilt from scratch so I have a clean slate to optimise.

[cbfb]

Thanks for that - yeah - I've been validating everything on W3C, the (not motorcycles) site in question is about to be rebuilt from scratch so I have a clean slate to optimise.

Are you using some sort of CMS or doing it all yourself?

[Big Dave]

Are you using some sort of CMS or doing it all yourself?

Hey that link page has some good tips thanks - I particularly note the H1-H6 tags advice.

It will be bit of a cocktail - I'll build the shells and use either word press or blogger for the CMS so they can DIY.

Partly why I stuck the Kiwi Rider content on Blogger was the built in SEO.

[cbfb]

Hey that link page has some good tips thanks - I particularly note the H1-H6 tags advice.

It will be bit of a cocktail - I'll build the shells and use either word press or blogger for the CMS so they can DIY.

Partly why I stuck the Kiwi Rider content on Blogger was the built in SEO.

Yeah there's a lot of info out there! Interesting but man it takes some reading. Have you looked at the O'Reilly books before? I've always used them for learning a new language or whatever.

Yep it is sometimes better to use a CMS, but I have always had some issue or other with the likes of Joomla or Drupal, end up being a bit of a hack. I am currently looking at writing my own CMS in php.