Proud to be a Kiwi? Not today.

[slowpoke]

I'm on my home from work/Oz later this week, a home I'm farkin' ashamed off:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701904
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701887
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701913
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701806
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701875

[White trash]

Hey Spud.

There's some fucken animals here alright mate, but there are animals in every country.

The only thing we can realistically do is bring our kids up correctly with a very strong sense of right and wrong. And vote for the Sensible Sentencing Trust party come election time. Bit of good, old fashioned vigilante justice never goes astray either.

[george formby]

Don't beat yourself up. In most countries incidents like this never become national news they are so common.
The hardest thing to bare is the fact we are average but we should be thankful that things are not so bad that these incidents get swept under the carpet.

[AllanB]

Fuckwits - they are everywhere - you never know when or where you'll meet one.

[Grasshopperus]

Yeah, one definition of news is 'stuff that almost never happens'.

It's when it stops getting reported that know it's a problem.

[slowpoke]

Hey Spud.

There's some fucken animals here alright mate, but there are animals in every country.

The only thing we can realistically do is bring our kids up correctly with a very strong sense of right and wrong. And vote for the Sensible Sentencing Trust party come election time. Bit of good, old fashioned vigilante justice never goes astray either.

Yeah, I know there's lots of good stuff happening and good folks around (good luck for Nat's mate) but after 26 days away at work I was getting all excited about getting home (not even the crack of dawn is safe the first coupla days) and then read about some of the goings on. Dunno, it just kicked me in the guts. Sticking ya head in the sand is a crappy solution but how else do you stay sane? How do you change anything?

I swear we're culling the wrong animals.

[slowpoke]

Yeah, one definition of news is 'stuff that almost never happens'.

It's when it stops getting reported that know it's a problem.

What, you mean like the Kaikoura seal slaughter? Or when that cunt Andrew Hore (yes, the All Black) and his mates decided to go and shoot some seals just for the hell of it?

These are just examples to do with seals for chrissakes, and are vastly out numbered by the usual child/spouse/animal cruelty cases that go completely unmentioned.

Sorry, your definition of news may make it easier for you to accept but I can't say I agree with it.

[Genie]

another reason for the decent sorts to bear children....fill the world with nice people....


there is much horror in today's world......but then, there always has been.

Just to varying degrees.....

you, you are personally responsible for you so if you be decent, live your life with morals....respect all...then the world is not that bad, fact.

find the good! always find the good, for if you focus on the bad - you may as well shoot yourself now.

[DEATH_INC.]

We live in an overly pc country where it's not ok to punish scumbag criminals. But, the sad thing is there are many worse one's out there :(

[Gibbo89]

Why is our justice system so fucked when it comes to animal cruelty? (the whole system is retarded in general I guess but still...)

Those shit heads that clubbed that baby seal with an oar were released and charges are 'likely'. Why not club them in the head till their head and brain are bleeding etc.

Yeah yeah, I know 'an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind' but at least then they couldn't see any more seals to club.

:oi-grr:

[Taz]

Worst of all some one stole my rusty broken push bike from around the back of my house the other night but I went to the Nigs house and took it back!!

[Kickaha]

I'm on my home from work/Oz later this week, a home I'm farkin' ashamed off:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701904
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701887
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701913
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701806
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701875


No idea why you'd be embarrassed about the actions of somebody else are relatives of yours?

I suppose nothing like that ever happens in Australia?

[PrincessBandit]

We live in an overly pc country where it's not ok to punish scumbag criminals. But, the sad thing is there are many worse one's out there :(

Yeah, New Zealand seems to be a country where crims, shitbags and the malicious seem to be protected more than anyone else, especially those who can't protect themselves like kids and animals.

[phill-k]

Why is our justice system so fucked when it comes to animal cruelty? (the whole system is retarded in general I guess but still...)

Those shit heads that clubbed that baby seal with an oar were released and charges are 'likely'. Why not club them in the head till their head and brain are bleeding etc.

Yeah yeah, I know 'an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind' but at least then they couldn't see any more seals to club.

:oi-grr:

The justice system is just a part of this issue and agree their whole process is questionable but the real issue I struggle with is why these guys actually did what they did. I kill things but humanly and to eat, rabbits, sheep etc, but I just can't understand what they got out of their actions.

[rachprice]

While it may not happen that often or is not reported very often I don't know that it signifies that it happens less than other countries

We are only a country of 4 million I'd be curious what the proportion is

Crap I didn't mean for it to have a thumbs up but cant work out how to change it on my phone

[cmoore]

there is crap going on everywhere........i have no idea why that suddenly means your embarrassed to be a kiwi.......you might as well be embarrassed to be human......we live in decent society with rules...some people obey them and others don't...some places don't have rules........what a cool place that a) reports it, b) arrests the people, c) feels sad that it happens.....good signs there..........

[EJK]

Their actions shouldn't alter what you or Kiwis are by the definition.

But I get your point, it's sickening as hell especially the dog and puppy one. Fucking disgusting.

[slowpoke]

you, you are personally responsible for you so if you be decent, live your life with morals....respect all...then the world is not that bad, fact.

find the good! always find the good, for if you focus on the bad - you may as well shoot yourself now.

Totally agree regarding personal responsisbility.

I'm not focussing on the bad, I'm a pretty cruisy, happy, balanced (chip on both shloulders, lol) lil' camper.....but I think frustration and anger are appropriate reactions.

Bad: I spend a fair amount of the year away from home chasing the dirty dollar in Oz to pay the bills. I'm normally staunchly proud of what I reckon is a cool lil' country, but I feel like a fraud at the moment.

Good: I farkin' love going home and I'm on my way tomorrow. Coming out of the 'taka's tunnel on the train or over the hill in the car and seeing the Wairarapa/Martinborough laid out like a patchwork quilt always lifts my spirits no matter what red-eye flight I've caught on the way home. It's not a perfect paradise but compared to some places I've lived it's pretty farkin' close.

Don't worry, once I get once I get off this pile off shit, and in to Darwin, it's rum-o'clock and everything will seem right with the world..........

[HenryDorsetCase]

I'm on my home from work/Oz later this week, a home I'm farkin' ashamed off:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701904
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701887
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701913
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701806
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701875

Bear in mind too, that "If it bleeds it leads" and this is easy "journalism"

Anyone who is cruel to animals or children should be put to death in my view.

[Tink]

I'm on my home from work/Oz later this week, a home I'm farkin' ashamed off:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701904
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701887
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701913
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701806
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701875

I was not born here, but I am a citizen and I am proud to be a New Zealander / kiwi... human being, what I am not proud of is our voting in a system thats punishment of the idol is to give them a system they can abuse, courts that have no power to punish, and people that struggle to survive. A tax system that hits the rich that work hard (some) for their money, and pays the ones that don't. I am embarrassed that someone that can be on the dole does nothing for it.:doh: Oh thats right it will take the work off the 10 people doing a 2 man job. DUGGERS... its a world wide failure really.... too much hate!

[JimO]

the people who carry out these crimes are scum, you will find these scum everywhere but only in NZ do we pay them to be scum

[AD345]

I'm on my home from work/Oz later this week, a home I'm farkin' ashamed off:

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701904
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701887
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701913
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701806
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10701875

Thats what ya get for reading the paper/watching TV news/listening to talkback radio

Don't do it

Be happier

Live longer

Seriously

Stop doing it

[98tls]

Yeah, New Zealand seems to be a country where crims, shitbags and the malicious seem to be protected more than anyone else, especially those who can't protect themselves like kids and animals.

If you look up the stats re ethnic groups currently in the big house you will find there comparable to those on the welfare and probably the opposite to those employed in one way or another to defend/advise/pander to said ethnic groups.Not to much will change as to remove ones head up outta the sand isnt to PC and certainly not the way to ensure a win come election time,far better off to ignore the obvious dont deal with it and take the money.

[racefactory]

I just can't tolerate animal cruelty. People- who gives a shit (too many of us fuckers on this planet)... but defenseless animals that never deserve any of man's vicious intervention, that's just tragic.

It's so good that there are organizations that won't stand for this shit and strive to prevent it.

[kevfromcoro]

The same shit happens here in Australia.....
And propably all over the world.
Its Australia day to-morrow.
Day off....
Have to put up with a dozen whinging aussies. cooking yabbies and drinking piss..

[_Shrek_]

can't see why you're not proud to be a kiwi, but I am,
the girls = it's simple realy let parents be parents & this most likely wont happen

as for the seals do they make good burgers coz i don't realy care!!! why coz they abort thousands of babies every year & no one realy gives a shit!! or it would have been stopped

the guy IF he set his wife on fire take him out the back.... save us $$$$$

& the rest get rid of the pc & call it for what it is,

send them to prison for the crimes they have done & bring back chain gangs & watch the crime rate drop

:angry2: rant ova

[sinfull]

What a fucking hillbilly, how shallow of you. Don't tell us you've parented after displaying such a retarded comment?

Come here so I can smash your nose back into your head with an oar.

My my, such tough talk from one so young !

Hear ya Spud, but it's like someone said don't look ! But it's too late, you have depressed me now and i want to smash someone, but they need to be deserving cause i'm old and frail and would need them held down while i tore their fingernails out and fed them back to them interartariously (bugger wrong one)
The human shit ahhh well life goes on, would certainly help ya tie them to a set of stocks of course, then let the families of those who'd been hurt/killed decide what to do next !


But ya see, it aint all bad here in NZ Bro ! My piss is cold and Drew needs a swinger ! What ya up to for the weekend ?

[racefactory]

NZ is a fantastic country and I'm fucking privileged to live here (Lived here half my life, not born kiwi), naturally I can't help but take these things a bit personally when I see them. I've seen Asia, the Middle-East and Europe and there is no where else I'd rather be on earth.

[gammaguy]

can't see why you're not proud to be a kiwi, but I am,
the girls = it's simple realy let parents be parents & this most likely wont happen

as for the seals do they make good burgers coz i don't realy care!!! why coz they abort thousands of babies every year & no one realy gives a shit!! or it would have been stopped

the guy IF he set his wife on fire take him out the back.... save us $$$$$

& the rest get rid of the pc & call it for what it is,

send them to prison for the crimes they have done & bring back chain gangs & watch the crime rate drop

:angry2: rant ova

what a fucken oik

people like you give NZ a bad name

WTF IF he burned his wife...set fire to herself did she?

ass

[buellbabe]

I just can't tolerate animal cruelty. People- who gives a shit (too many of us fuckers on this planet)... but defenseless animals that never deserve any of man's vicious intervention, that's just tragic.

It's so good that there are organizations that won't stand for this shit and strive to prevent it.

Both my dogs were rescue cases, my Rotti had been beaten so severely that she would piss herself if you tried to pat her.
And her former fuckwit owner went straight out and got himself another dog....WHY?

Unfortunately the sentences given to the wankers who commit these offences just don't cut the mustard.

As far as I am concerned, drowning those puppies is murder and the culprits should be charged with that. Of course that won't happen.

The way I see it is that a person who would deliberately hurt an animal is just a waste of space on the planet.

[_Shrek_]

what a fucken oik

people like you give NZ a bad name

WTF IF he burned his wife...set fire to herself did she?

ass

cheers to as well :apint:

[rachprice]

Thats what ya get for reading the paper/watching TV news/listening to talkback radio

Don't do it

Be happier

Live longer

Seriously

Stop doing it

Yeah I have stopped it

I see enough death, illness and bad behaviour in my work that I just get depressed when I watch the news

[firefighter]

A lot of curb biting to do I see.

[nudemetalz]

As a parent of a young kid (and another on the way)...I could barely read that case of the effwit playing Playstation with a dying baby next to him !!

And I agree with Buellbabe, animal cruelty is just intolerable.
I would shoot the bastards that do these things if it wasn't illegal in itself.

[Grasshopperus]

What, you mean like the Kaikoura seal slaughter? Or when that cunt Andrew Hore (yes, the All Black) and his mates decided to go and shoot some seals just for the hell of it?

These are just examples to do with seals for chrissakes, and are vastly out numbered by the usual child/spouse/animal cruelty cases that go completely unmentioned.

Sorry, your definition of news may make it easier for you to accept but I can't say I agree with it.

What a bizarre tangent you've gone off on.

I'm trying to tell you about the definition of news and you go off on a rant about seals. The reason you don't see articles like what you posted in other countries is that given a large enough population base those sorts of things happen all the time.

In Brazil murders happen everyday, most of them go unreported, you know why? BECAUSE THEY HAPPEN EVERYDAY. Hence, they are not news. Over in NZ we'll be hearing about it for months after, because it does not happen everyday. QED.

[toycollector10]

"The more I know men, the more I love my dog" - Unknown,

[_Shrek_]

what a fucken oik

people like you give NZ a bad name

WTF IF he burned his wife...set fire to herself did she?ass

or maybe one of his rellies, did you think of that potty mouth, unless you know some thing we don't, or are you judge & executioner, for us all!!!