Well Mashman - It appears the end is nigh! [Archive]

cave weta

30th January 2011, 19:33

four hours ago NASA released news of a huge spewing hole in the Sun that is turning to face earth as we speak.....
http://spaceweather.com/ this posting fresh on the net from NASA.
seems we can expect CMEs -Coronal Mass Ejections to hit earth within days!
that means, goodbye to all your data stored in chips or hard drives at the least!
maybe even dramatic weather worldwide and the odd earthquake or 7 and eruptions too.

The webmaster and auther of the posting is Dr Tony Phillips is Editor in Chief of the NASA Educational Resources Division
http://science.nasa.gov/educators/

Virago

30th January 2011, 19:41

cave weta

30th January 2011, 19:43

That's a ten-year-old article about the moon landings...

sorry was meant to be this one-http://science.nasa.gov/educators/ He is the head of deparment. this info is from his own website, check in the morning for confirmation from NASA- if your PC still works.
I just dug up this collabarative report from another source which gives background into CMEs and their effects
http://www.starstryder.com/2007/06/04/countdown-to-solar-maximum-coronal-mass-ejections/
written four years ago about these times -it outlines the effects and liklyhood of CMEs.
Anyway... no more posts from me tonight - Im off to empty my EFTPOS account and max out my credit account!

pzkpfw

30th January 2011, 19:46

sorry was meant to be this one-http://science.nasa.gov/educators/

Try again...

Crazy Steve

30th January 2011, 19:51

four hours ago NASA released news of a huge spewing hole in the Sun that is turning to face earth as we speak.....
http://science.nasa.gov/science-news/science-at-nasa/2001/ast23feb_2/
this posting fresh on the net from NASA.
seems we can expect CMEs -Coronal Mass Ejections to hit earth within days!
that means, goodbye to all your data stored in chips or hard drives at the least!
maybe even dramatic weather worldwide and the odd earthquake or 7 and eruptions too.

The webmaster and auther of the posting is Dr Tony Phillips is Editor in Chief of the NASA Educational Resources Division
http://science.nasa.gov/educators/

Sorry so what day is this supose to be happening because I need to get my hair done on Thursday ! ! :yes:

Crazy Steve.

Virago

30th January 2011, 19:53

sorry was meant to be this one-http://science.nasa.gov/educators/ ...

Unclickable - but that's a link to NASA's educational resources?

I suspect that the "huge spewing hole" is rather closer to home...

Crazy Steve

30th January 2011, 19:55

Unclickable - but that's a link to NASA's educational resources?

I suspect that the "huge spewing hole" is rather closer to home...

Thats funny..... Rep reward ! !

Crazy Steve.

Crazy Steve

30th January 2011, 20:06

Does that mean there will be no History of anything that has been posted on the internet ?

No history of all my unpaid parking fines ?

Kinda seems like a dream come true CLEAN SLATE EVEN !

I'm waiting ! !

Crazy Steve.

puddytat

30th January 2011, 20:10

May be that Big Brother has erased all traces of that release so we dont panic........?

Virago

30th January 2011, 20:11

...I just dug up this collabarative report from another source which gives background into CMEs and their effects
http://www.starstryder.com/2007/06/04/countdown-to-solar-maximum-coronal-mass-ejections/...

Ah, thank you - a link at last.

I love how the link is abbreviated though - note how it says "...ass-ejections"...? :niceone:

cave weta

30th January 2011, 20:15

English Daily Telegraph running this story-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7923069/Nasa-scientists-braced-for-solar-tsunami-to-hit-earth.html

all links fixed - sorry guys my browser top bar hangs on to each previous page address somtimes.

Any way -This is serious!

Virago

30th January 2011, 20:26

English Daily Telegraph running this story-
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/space/7923069/Nasa-scientists-braced-for-solar-tsunami-to-hit-earth.html...

...Any way -This is serious!

It is indeed serious - from that story:

Nasa scientists braced for 'solar tsunami' to hit earth
The earth could be hit by a wave of violent space weather as early as Tuesday after a massive explosion on the sun, scientists have warned...

Just one flaw in your panic scenario - the article is already six months old...

Crazy Steve

30th January 2011, 20:33

Sorry it was fireworks that I couldn't see.

Crazy Steve.

Crazy Steve

30th January 2011, 20:34

Sorry it was firework I couldn't see completely

people were screaming ! !

Crazy Steve.

AllanB

30th January 2011, 20:34

Think of it as an opportunity to look up that really really dirty porn - it will all be erased in a few days!

Gubb

30th January 2011, 20:41

note how it says "...ass-ejections"...? :niceone:

It's amazing that shit can dribble out of more than one orofice at a time.

Jantar

30th January 2011, 20:47

Could be interesting, but I wouldn't get too excited.

From: http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/today.html

3-day Solar-Geophysical Forecast issued Jan 29 22:00 UTC
Solar Activity Forecast: Solar activity is expected to be at very low levels with a slight chance for C-class events for the next three days (30 January - 01 February).

Geophysical Activity Forecast: The geomagnetic field is expected to be at predominantly quiet levels for the next two days (30-31 January). Quiet to unsettled levels are expected late on day three (01 February) as a recurrent coronal hole high-speed stream moves into a geoeffective position.

Crazy Steve

30th January 2011, 20:55

Does this mean we all get Super powers like Superman ?

I can't wait for this to happen....:innocent:

Will this ever end up in PD ?

Crazy Steve.

mashman

30th January 2011, 21:07

Meh, not just yet CW, I hope:)... Funny, just finished watching a prog on Discovery Channel on 2012 theories :)... anyhoo, i've been watching the solarcycle24 (http://www.solarcycle24.com/) site for the last few years and seen some pretty spectacular displays... but the latest has to be one of the best...

28/01/2011 (The Day before Jantars link)

"Solar Update - Numerous Coronal Mass Ejections (CMEs) have taken place off the Suns western limb. Click HERE (http://www.solarcycle24.com/archive/jan28.mpeg) to download a LASCO movie of the events. Unfortunatly none of these explosions appear to be earth directed. Sooner or later, we will get lucky and be in the path of an incoming CME that will produce Aurora at lower latitudes for our enjoyment. One of these explosions was caused by an M1.4 Solar Flare (http://www.spaceweather.com/flareexpl.html) around departing Sunspot 1149.

A new sunspot has rotated into view on the southeastern limb and should be numbered 1150 on Friday"

I love it when they get disappointed that nothing is Earth directed :rofl:... The big ball is gettin angry, but I wish it would wait til I've had my fishing trip on Friday and my mother in law has left the country :).

Laava

30th January 2011, 21:09

I bags to be Thermo Man! I will have the powers of, for instance, the thermo-retentive ability of tomato when it flops out of your toastee burning the crap outta your bottom lip area!
Might be usefull for a coupla days?

Woodman

30th January 2011, 21:15

But if we all have superpowers then we would all be the same and then no one will effectively have superpowers even though we will all have superpowers relative to the superpower level we had prior to the sunblast thing.:facepalm:

mashman

30th January 2011, 21:22

I will beeeeeeee

http://www.theoldbicycleshowroom.co.uk/ekmps/shops/theoldbicycle/images/monty-python-bicycle-repair-man-287-c.jpg

bicycle repair man

NighthawkNZ

30th January 2011, 21:28

Jantar

30th January 2011, 21:34

The sun goes through these cycles every eleven years or so... they say scientists expect this next solar maximum to be the strongest of modern times, however they don't give any reason as to why. What makes this cycle any different from the one we have been coming out of for the last 10 years, or from the one in ‘89? or any other in the Earths 3.8 billion year history?

More scare mongering or money making scemes to say protect your self with our product??? all part of the 2012 scare mongering bull shit.

Umm, No. The next solar maximum is expected to the lowest in modern times. At least as low as the Dalton minimum, and maybe even as low as the Maunder. NASA are predicting a maximum SSN of 64 and others predictions are for a peak as low as 50.

PrincessBandit

30th January 2011, 21:42

More scare mongering or money making scemes to say protect your self with our product???

Oil of Ulay SPF 2,000,000! Where do I buy a jar?

Pussy

30th January 2011, 21:43

I'll be pissed off if it happens on the 14th.... the day before pay day

NighthawkNZ

30th January 2011, 21:43

Umm, No. The next solar maximum is expected to the lowest in modern times. At least as low as the Dalton minimum, and maybe even as low as the Maunder. NASA are predicting a maximum SSN of 64 and others predictions are for a peak as low as 50.

I read that somewhere as well I can't remember the link...

The thing is... they simply don't really know... so no point in trying to predict it really...

Predictions... so called educated guess... but a guess none the less :blink:

mashman

30th January 2011, 21:51

or 138+-9 depending according to Jean Uwamahoro (neural networks, hell of a long document that got me completely lost :rofl:)

Blackshear

30th January 2011, 21:56

Think of it as an opportunity to look up that really really dirty porn - it will all be erased in a few days!

It's saved?

:bye:

superman

30th January 2011, 21:59

Gotta wait for that overdue pole reversal to be really scared of the suns outbursts. Wonder how much awesome damage the sun will do while the magnetic field is shifting :yes:

mashman

30th January 2011, 22:06

Gotta wait for that overdue pole reversal to be really scared of the suns outbursts. Wonder how much awesome damage the sun will do while the magnetic field is shifting :yes:

According to the science folk, that's already happening and can take hundreds of years to complete. They also mention rips in Earths magnetic field that would allow the suns raditation to sweep through unabated, all bar the atmoshpere... a bad day to be sunbathing if yer in the right place at the wrong time...

Blackshear

30th January 2011, 22:09

This place is a shit hole anyway, SSDD.

In reference to our civilization as a whole, that is.

superman

30th January 2011, 22:11

According to the science folk, that's already happening and can take hundreds of years to complete. They also mention rips in Earths magnetic field that would allow the suns raditation to sweep through unabated, all bar the atmoshpere... a bad day to be sunbathing if yer in the right place at the wrong time...

Sounds toasty, should really get a move on and move to mars... fresh start :yes:

Jantar

30th January 2011, 22:12

...Predictions... so called educated guess... but a guess none the less :blink:
As are all preditictions, but some have more skill than others. Solar studies are fortunately not a new branch of astrophysics, but it is one we are still learning about.

Dr Theodore Landscheit http://bourabai.narod.ru/landscheidt/ is currently the world's most eminent solar physicist, and some years ago I had the honour of being part of an open Peer review of one of his early papers. He was the first to predict the current minimum and it appears that it is likely to be named after him. He made the prediction prior to the end of the previous solar cycle, while NASA are still updating their prediction monthly.

Edit: Wrong link

puddytat

30th January 2011, 22:14

Just keep your tinfoil hat handy:sick:

Jantar

30th January 2011, 22:15

Gotta wait for that overdue pole reversal to be really scared of the suns outbursts. Wonder how much awesome damage the sun will do while the magnetic field is shifting :yes:

Do you mean the solar pole reversal, or the terrestial pole reversal?

The solar one is happening right on schedule, but the terrestial one isn't due for quite some time yet.

superman

30th January 2011, 22:19

Do you mean the solar pole reversal, or the terrestial pole reversal?

The solar one is happening right on schedule, but the terrestial one isn't due for quite some time yet.

I thought the earths magnetic field was due for a reversal? Or have I been duped by another TV show and not double checking the references :facepalm:

Jantar

30th January 2011, 22:27

I thought the earths magnetic field was due for a reversal? Or have I been duped by another TV show and not double checking the references :facepalm:

The earths magnetic reversals have been sparodic and inconsistant in the past. So inconsistant that it has varied from 5 times in less than a century to 42 million years between reversals. Currently it is around 750,000 years since the last reversal. The exact time or period of the next reversal cannot yet be predicted, but we do know that it will be at a time of low magnetic field strength that we aren't yet seeing.

Berries

31st January 2011, 07:06

I thought you lot up north would just be happy to see the sun.

MSTRS

31st January 2011, 07:21

Don't scoff, guys. This is real. And serious. Kb has been running slow for me since yesterday lunchtime.

ellipsis

31st January 2011, 07:29

....yeah...definitely something serious going on...whether its polar solarity or solar polarity, I dont know...but...my wifes Honda started , first push on the button...very, very strange...:yes:

sinfull

31st January 2011, 08:43

Don't scoff, guys. This is real. And serious. Kb has been running slow for me since yesterday lunchtime.

They're herererererere !!!

PrincessBandit

31st January 2011, 13:43

Sounds toasty, should really get a move on and move to mars... fresh start :yes:

Why not Mercury? Oh wait, frying pan, fire... Perhaps Uranus then?

mashman

31st January 2011, 17:21

Sounds toasty, should really get a move on and move to mars... fresh start

There be "life" and water on Mars already :yes:

here's a link that sort of explains it (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPLjnqS8UeY&feature=related). I couldn't find the stuff i'd read (must add bookmark :facepalm:), but it was a guy from Liverpool University... anyhoo, I found it while looking for reasons behind the "recent" birds, fish and crab deaths and he was "saying" something about the magnetic field diminishing and ripping open over the equator... It was about a month ago, so I could be wrong with some of those details...

cave weta

31st January 2011, 18:06

Ive been out all day- getting my terrestrial affairs in order.

Ive not checked in since last night and would like to rate this thread as farkin funny.

Jantar

8th February 2011, 09:23

An update on the fear of earth's magnetic pole reversal here: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/07/on-the-magnetic-polar-shifts-cause-massive-global-super-storms-story/

mashman

10th February 2011, 08:20

An update on the fear of earth's magnetic pole reversal here: http://wattsupwiththat.com/2011/02/07/on-the-magnetic-polar-shifts-cause-massive-global-super-storms-story/

Interesting read... i wish they'd make their minds up in terms of solar max and ssn. 2013 eh. Wonder why they've been getting it "wrong" in the past? I assume the data isn't there given the "new" array of instruments they're using? Anyhoo, 2012 is postponed :shifty: :rofl:

mashman

15th February 2011, 20:14

The sun flexes its muscles (this morning). Takes a while to completely download (it should run smoothly), but when it's all there, great looking explosion (http://www.lmsal.com/nitta/movies/aia/20110215_01/AIA_0211_rdiff/AIA_0211_RDIFF_20110215_0130_X22_j.html)

mashman

17th February 2011, 23:08

... and after the muscle flex comes some space weather (http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/)... wonder if it'll knock anything out or did... i still can't grasp the time difference thing

mashman

18th February 2011, 10:24

looks like China got a bit of radio communication disruption (http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110217/sc_afp/usastronomytelecomnasachina_20110217095946)... looks like NZ should be unaffected (http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/drap/Global.png)

cave weta

8th March 2011, 19:23

here comes another one....

copied from spaceweather.com

HIGH SOLAR ACTIVITY: Solar Cycle 24 is heating up. No fewer than three sunspots (1164, 1165, and 1166) are crackling with M-class solar flares, and each of them has a delta-class magnetic field capable of producing even more powerful X-flares. Scroll past the double flybys for information about a CME now heading our way...

INCOMING CME: The magnetic canopy of sunspot 1166 erupted on March 7th around 1400 UT, producing an M2-class solar flare and a bright coronal mass ejection (CME). Click on the image to launch a movie of the expanding plasma cloud:

The CME was not squarely directed at Earth. Nevertheless, the cloud will probably deliver a glancing blow to our planet's magnetic field on March 9th or 10th, possibly sparking polar geomagnetic storms. High-latitude sky watchers should be alert for auroras.

mashman

8th March 2011, 19:32

I've been watching the solar flux over the last few days... Anyhoo, from www.solarcycle24.com (http://www.solarcycle24.com/)

M1.5 Flare / No Sunspots Needed: An M1.5 Solar Flare took place at 03:58 UTC Tuesday and was centered around the spotless plage region located in the south eastern quadrant of the visible solar disk.

M-Class Flares and two CME's - Several M-Class flares took place on Monday around Sunspots 1164, 1165 and 1166. Two Coronal Mass Ejections (CME's) did take place however both do not appear to be fully earth directed. These expanding clouds could deliver a minor blow to earths geomagnetic field within the next 72 hours. The largest flare thus far was an M3.7 which took place at 20:12 UTC Monday.

Solar Update - As reported above, several M-Class flares (7) took place during the day on Monday. Sunspot 1165 which is located in the southern hemisphere is in the process of rotating onto the western limb and will soon be out of direct earth view. Sunspot 1164 which is in the northern hemisphere will also rotate onto the western limb soon after 1165. The chances for strong solar flares will decrease somewhat once these regions are out of view, however there will remain the possibility for further flares around Sunspot 1166. Just to the east of 1166, Sunspot 1169 did show some minor growth during the day on Monday.

Solar Flux Update: Not to sound like a broken record, but the Solar Flux reading on Monday is 153 (No pun intended). This is yet again another high for Cycle 24. The last time the solar flux was as this level, was July of 2004. Please note that this flux reading is an estimate due to the Flare activity in progress The high-sensitivity channels on the measurement device were completely overloaded by the long duration flare and produced a SFI reading of 938.6 at 20:00z.