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Rupe
31st January 2011, 19:24
Might try the wife on a 125 as she quite likes them.
Can't really remember whats the deal with them.
Which ones can be lowered?
Which ones have the least snap and most bottom end etc?
random rider
31st January 2011, 20:39
depends on how much you want to spend....but most can be lowered in some way.
I have a KX125 '08
I am 5.3 (approx 163cm) so have had some padding out of the seat and managed to get a modified linkage bolt put in. Then got moto SR to set up sag etc and all ok.
I put a flywheel on mine...ok could have got a more "trail friendly" but I really love it and the flywheel has given me some nice bottom power.
Spikedpunch is similar height to me but would be lighter and she is on a Yamaha 125. I know she has done some work on hers to set up for her.
If you can get your wife to try a few bikes out (is possible - if around at same events happy for her to try mine..)
Rupe
31st January 2011, 20:49
depends on how much you want to spend....but most can be lowered in some way.
I have a KX125 '08
I am 5.3 (approx 163cm) so have had some padding out of the seat and managed to get a modified linkage bolt put in. Then got moto SR to set up sag etc and all ok.
I put a flywheel on mine...ok could have got a more "trail friendly" but I really love it and the flywheel has given me some nice bottom power.
Spikedpunch is similar height to me but would be lighter and she is on a Yamaha 125. I know she has done some work on hers to set up for her.
If you can get your wife to try a few bikes out (is possible - if around at same events happy for her to try mine..)
Prob wont spend much as she only rides a handful of times a year, and just wants something to mess around on.
Whats the modified linkage bolt? any further details?
I know yamaha do the yami-link and I thought you could just make longer dogbones for the kx, but not sure.
Also wouldn't mind know how the power spread is different from model to model.
SpikedPunch
31st January 2011, 21:18
YZ is meant to have the most bottom end. Of course coming off the RM100 it feels like it's got heaps. I've lowered mine with a cut seat and yamalink lowering link. The guy who did my seat went a bit too far as it's not that comfy on long rides, but it got it low enough for me to feel comfortable. Now I've got the hang of riding the big bike a bit better I might look at getting the seat padded up a little again, not as high as stock of course, just a bit to get it a bit plusher. She's more than welcome to give it a go whenever :) I have an '07 and I think it's from '05 onwards they have the alloy frame?
IIIRII
1st February 2011, 08:18
Noobs, GG125ec would smoke any other 125 bike for bottom end by a country mile , and its for sale, just been rebuilt.
L Rider
1st February 2011, 08:41
If bottom end is a priority then you won't get as much from any mxer. Better going for an enduro type bike IMO.
As for lowering - any can it just depends how you want to go about doing it & what kind of cost you feel is worth paying to do it.
If you want it lowered professionally then you need to have the front adjusted as well as the rear.
Rupe
1st February 2011, 09:36
Noobs, GG125ec would smoke any other 125 bike for bottom end by a country mile , and its for sale, just been rebuilt.
Cant see me ever owning another gasgas
IIIRII
1st February 2011, 11:00
To reliable ?
barty5
1st February 2011, 11:54
lack of share's in Mcgyver tape company more likely. hahahaha
random rider
1st February 2011, 16:35
I know yamaha do the yami-link and I thought you could just make longer dogbones for the kx, but not sure.
Also wouldn't mind know how the power spread is different from model to model.
Mine was a modified dogbone...spectrum knew someone that had taken it out of a bike so was easy as to get :yes:
The flywheel has given me that lower end I like but I think the YZ is better for it. Depends how low you need or want it I guess. I originally thought about enduro style bikes but love my KX and it does all the things I need/want it to...but I am sure I let it down!
Rupe
1st February 2011, 17:41
To reliable ?
Reliable.... not a word I'd use to describe gasgas after owning one.
Rupe
1st February 2011, 17:49
Mine was a modified dogbone...spectrum knew someone that had taken it out of a bike so was easy as to get :yes:
The flywheel has given me that lower end I like but I think the YZ is better for it. Depends how low you need or want it I guess. I originally thought about enduro style bikes but love my KX and it does all the things I need/want it to...but I am sure I let it down!
cool, prob look at a yz when I sell the other. The enduro bikes are more $ to buy so just stick to a cheap mx as it'll only used to mess around on. Thanks
cheese
1st February 2011, 18:26
Is she after the bigger size frame and wheels? I'd say thats the biggest draw back on a 80 size bike.
IIIRII
1st February 2011, 20:13
Ok, But its not really fair to base reliability on the clapped out pile of junk you bought and then were supprised that it wasnt reliable ....
Sounds like the dumbass analogy Bart would come up with ...
In fact, [Insert some random comment about KTM] <<< Bart ...
Noobs bike only had 1 dnf and that was when it fouled a plug and we didnt have a spare.
Im not aware of him having any DNF'd with his 200 ...
I bet we do more hours riding than a lot of people on here too ...
Rupe
1st February 2011, 20:56
Ok, But its not really fair to base reliability on the clapped out pile of junk you bought and then were supprised that it wasnt reliable ....
Sounds like the dumbass analogy Bart would come up with ...
In fact, [Insert some random comment about KTM] <<< Bart ...
Noobs bike only had 1 dnf and that was when it fouled a plug and we didnt have a spare.
Im not aware of him having any DNF'd with his 200 ...
I bet we do more hours riding than a lot of people on here too ...
Not quite sure where you get your info from, or why this is in this thread.
Anyway, the gasgas I brought was not a pile of junk, it was a well maintained bike (by Mr motocycles) from a vet owner. I maintained very well, as I do with all my bikes but it let me down. I persisted with the bike for a long while but after missing a lot of the summer rides waiting for parts, I decided to get something else. Then on working on the bikes I've had since and fixing many project bikes it is clear to me that the quality is not on par with the main 5 brands. The motor as a base is fine, but it's like the rest is assembled in china.
The comment Barty made was because we ride together a fair bit and he used to laugh at me as bits used to just fall off the thing. For example the plastics, they are held on with self tapping screws!!
I just want a simple bike that is reliable, and has plenty of genuine/aftermarket parts available. I don't care what make I buy, but for me gasgas doesn't fit this bill, good luck with your sale.
Rupe
1st February 2011, 20:59
Is she after the bigger size frame and wheels? I'd say thats the biggest draw back on a 80 size bike.
yeah she had a go a 125 and liked it more than hers. Rochelles Wr with the shaved seat and lowering link was a good fit too. Probably put the kx up for sale and try someting else for around the same money.
cheese
2nd February 2011, 10:38
I was going to say you don't think that she would be happier on something like a WR instead of a 125? Electric start and stuff would be a bonus. Weight factor is the bad thing I guess?
SpikedPunch
2nd February 2011, 11:27
If she's used to riding the kx85 a 125 would be the natural next step I guess.
noobi
3rd February 2011, 13:56
KTMs still use screws to hold their shrouds in :violin:
And bikes tend to change over the period of 5 years, not so with 125 jap bikes.
I rode a YZ125 back to back with the GG125, and the only thing the YZ was better for was stalling and revving up really quickly.
The YZ was also taller, had about 1/5 the bottom end the GG had, had much harsher suspension, was much more demanding to ride, the engines werent that much different if you rode them in the mid to top end, which I had to with the YZ, not so with the GG. The YZ would be hands down better on a mx track at pace, but I can guarantee that the GG would be better for a noob on the same mx track.
But you seem content on trying to trail ride a mx bike, so whatever.
:brick:
L Rider
3rd February 2011, 14:19
KTMs still use screws to hold their shrouds in :violin:
And bikes tend to change over the period of 5 years, not so with 125 jap bikes.
I rode a YZ125 back to back with the GG125, and the only thing the YZ was better for was stalling and revving up really quickly.
The YZ was also taller, had about 1/5 the bottom end the GG had, had much harsher suspension, was much more demanding to ride, the engines werent that much different if you rode them in the mid to top end, which I had to with the YZ, not so with the GG. The YZ would be hands down better on a mx track at pace, but I can guarantee that the GG would be better for a noob on the same mx track.
But you seem content on trying to trail ride a mx bike, so whatever.
:brick:
I remember when John rode your 125 Dale & he commented on how 'easy' it was to ride as you didn't have to be constantly on the pipe like a mx 125.
It seems a common trend to buy a mxer 125 then try change it to be 'trail friendly'. Alot (not all) are just set on jap bikes and won't give an enduro type bike a go, or they go for the jap bike due to it being in their price range.
I rode a Husky WR125 - and although it was tall it was bloody nice to ride. It also felt more comfy & not as big as the KX125 even though it is taller. Need to win lotto to buy though
IIIRII
3rd February 2011, 16:51
The reality is that really theres not too many options for a docile & light 125 trail bike...
And its all to do with what kind of riding you like ...
If you like riding across paddocks like the charity rides then theres many more suitable options.
How often do you stall or drop a bike riding it across a paddock ?
But anything even vaguely interesting or technical and thats a different thing altogether.
Rupe
3rd February 2011, 17:38
KTMs still use screws to hold their shrouds in :violin:
And bikes tend to change over the period of 5 years, not so with 125 jap bikes.
I rode a YZ125 back to back with the GG125, and the only thing the YZ was better for was stalling and revving up really quickly.
The YZ was also taller, had about 1/5 the bottom end the GG had, had much harsher suspension, was much more demanding to ride, the engines werent that much different if you rode them in the mid to top end, which I had to with the YZ, not so with the GG. The YZ would be hands down better on a mx track at pace, but I can guarantee that the GG would be better for a noob on the same mx track.
But you seem content on trying to trail ride a mx bike, so whatever.
:brick:
flywheel weight help greatly with stalling, revving, bottom end. I can/do revalve suspension myself.
My wife just wants a cheap bike to play on and doesn't have the time or ambition to do trail/enduro stuff. If she wanted a more expensive bike to use lots I'd probably get an enduro style bike, but would be up to her. Just wanted to get some info which I now have.
250f mx bikes can be ridden everwhere, and I do all sorts of riding from mx to wires. It suits my needs more than the ec200 I had so, no need to :brick::crybaby:
jt119
3rd February 2011, 18:28
flywheel weight help greatly with stalling, revving, bottom end. I can/do revalve suspension myself.
My wife just wants a cheap bike to play on and doesn't have the time or ambition to do trail/enduro stuff. If she wanted a more expensive bike to use lots I'd probably get an enduro style bike, but would be up to her. Just wanted to get some info which I now have.
250f mx bikes can be ridden everwhere, and I do all sorts of riding from mx to wires. It suits my needs more than the ec200 I had so, no need to :brick::crybaby: get her a gas gas power chillybin even one happy
M0T0MAN
8th February 2011, 19:16
YZ125 05+ I have an 05 and it has plenty of bottom for woods and im 80kg
thecharmed01
16th February 2011, 16:57
Does she want a 2-stroke or a 4?
I'm only 5'1"
I love my DRZ125 and I enjoyed the TTR125 before that too.
I'm looking to go to a CRF150 next, soon as I find the 'right' one to buy!
SpikedPunch
16th February 2011, 20:19
He's looking for a 1252t :scooter:
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