Tauranga motorcyclists' feedback required from NZTA

[Genestho]

A headsup to locals..


"NZTA Tauranga office is willing to hear some feedback on the BOP 's SH Network from the motorcycling community.

NZTA is particularly interested in feedback on the existing SH and the new projects that have been recently commissioned (Harbour Link, Welcome bay Signals, Bethlehem Improvements, etc.)

2. NZTA is willing to engage with the BOP Motorcycle group in future re the development of the future roading projects.

NZTA is keen to consult with the Motorcycling community to make sure the future projects are safer and friendlier to the motorcyclist."

So if any locals have any exisitng roading issues based on the recently commissioned projects, other roading issues, queries or otherwise, please email me on baddnz@gmail.com, or make these known (on paper) to your local Dealerships, almost all are involved in the Tauranga WBOP Motorcycling Road Safety group, these will then be co-lated and presented to the local NZTA rep.


Cheers..

[Ronin]

Now that is fantastic and the sort of consultation that we need to engage in.

[Genestho]

Absolutely, if we're able to work towards trying to iron out another big contributor of crashes (of many), be involved in future projects - then why not?

I'd say - by and large - credit where credit's due; not only to motivated group members, but also to MAG for their 'report a road' link idea.

I'd invited Anne along last year to a meeting to establish contact, to make each entity aware of the other, what we were discussing in our neck of the woods regarding initiatives..

The subject of roading issues came up at the time, after intense discussion by all - it was decided that roading should be a focus and how we could do this.

I have no idea what is possible, so I don't want to raise hopes here as to what's achievable locally, but we can present the issues.

Here's hoping the opportunity is taken up amongst locals, although clearly, if there were other similar regional groups, then I believe there's no reason this type of consultation couldn't be extended.

[Genestho]

Just a quick update, some feedback is starting to come through...thankyou very much! :sunny:

[avgas]

Remove that bloody stupid 80km zone between Kati and Tga!

Just because some old fart can't drive faster than 80 doesn't mean the whole road speed limit should change.

[Genestho]

Mmmm it's possible that data and statistics made a conclusion possible in reduction of speed limits through there.

The challenge will be, to be able to discuss things, progress, without beings saps, to listen, to present in a mutually understood language, but also for Motorcyclists to realise we're NOT at all here to represent, there are groups that can and will do this.

This is more to engage in and encourage clearer communication, and possibly setting up a supportive structure to enable this (If not already there).

So we need to work out if this is formal, informal, and how to encourage the feedback process in current and future roading projects being "safer and friendlier to motorcyclist[s]".

Have asked if we can have some sort of submission forms because I think if we can guide this through, with someone co-lating the feedback - it's being measured and then we're able make sure things are followed up and what the outcomes are to be.

[Kittyhawk]

Remove that bloody stupid 80km zone between Kati and Tga!

Just because some old fart can't drive faster than 80 doesn't mean the whole road speed limit should change.

There's an 80k limit? I better check for signs next time I head down. It's always been 100 as far as I remember.

[Genestho]

Learned yesterday at (not a NZTA) meeting we also have consultation opportunities on the roadcode, so again, any feedback please pass it on.

On my asking - we will be working on how best to assist the feedback structure, to make communication from the community easier and to get the feedback back out again, this process structure could take a couple of months.

Tentative and firm discussion has already seen talk about Cheesecutters (hmm this will be interesting...), and Pyes Pa road.

There are further issues that have arisen from community feedback, but this would be discussed in future at the official meeting.

If you have issues we'll address them, I have warned that I will be a handful, and I will ask questions (And same would go for everyone else I'd imagine).

Thanks to those who've put forward feedback so far..there will be a lot coming up so will try to keep posted.

[Highlander]

Remove that bloody stupid 80km zone between Kati and Tga!

Just because some old fart can't drive faster than 80 doesn't mean the whole road speed limit should change.

90 km from Whakamarama to Bethlehem apart from the 80 km bit through Te Puna.

They need to do something different with those joints on the fly over for the new bridge aproach (Waikareao Estuary side) In the wet they are but puckering slippery and with the curve of the road you are on a lean for each of them. The Airport side of the bridge is fine.

Why did they put two pedestrian crossings each controlled by a set of traffic lights, within 100m in Bethlehem?

[Stirts]

Why did they put two pedestrian crossings each controlled by a set of traffic lights, within 100m in Bethlehem?

Because people that live in Bethlehem have their noses so far up their own arses they don't see the traffic?
:shifty:

[Genestho]

90 km from Whakamarama to Bethlehem apart from the 80 km bit through Te Puna.

They need to do something different with those joints on the fly over for the new bridge aproach (Waikareao Estuary side) In the wet they are but puckering slippery and with the curve of the road you are on a lean for each of them. The Airport side of the bridge is fine.

Why did they put two pedestrian crossings each controlled by a set of traffic lights, within 100m in Bethlehem?

I've received feedback on the bridge approach via emails too - Cheers

We've just had draft submission forms sent out from NZTA for Motorcyclist specific viewpoint/feedback on roading etc, issues - might not take as long as originally thought to get this process going! :)

As soon as these are ready to go, the group will fire them out via email and any other mediums - post here, they'll also be available in hardcopy from local dealerships and Ulysess - deadline is 31.05.2011, analysis of feedback is June.

[avgas]

90 km from Whakamarama to Bethlehem apart from the 80 km bit through Te Puna.
That's the ones....... bloody stupid ideas making them not 100.

I am all for keeping to speed limits etc. But when you DROP a speed limit that is just plain annoying.

[Genestho]

"The NZ Transport Agency is committed to improving safety on our highways for all road users, including motorcyclists.
Your experience can provide vital first-hand knowledge of what’s important to motorcyclists and to help us to prioritise improvements.

Please let NZTA know what you think of any local roading issues or related, by filling in this form and submitting it by 31st May 2011.

You can post it to: NZ Transport Agency, PO Box 430, Tauranga 3140; drop it off at 405 Cameron Road (corner of 7th Ave); or contact Melissa Clare on 07 927 7601 or at melissa.clare@nzta.govt.nz to be posted or emailed a copy."

[rocketman1]

90 km from Whakamarama to Bethlehem apart from the 80 km bit through Te Puna.

They need to do something different with those joints on the fly over for the new bridge aproach (Waikareao Estuary side) In the wet they are but puckering slippery and with the curve of the road you are on a lean for each of them. The Airport side of the bridge is fine.

Why did they put two pedestrian crossings each controlled by a set of traffic lights, within 100m in Bethlehem?

Yes i was going to make the same comment about those shiny metal expansion joint strips, I have not been over them in the wet on my bike, but I know that the car slips a bit on them in the wet. So I will be real cautious on the bike. There is no reason to have them so shiny. I hopes not a matter of time!!

[Old Steve]

Yeah, those bridge expension joints scare me too.

And the last corner going into Te Puna, uphill approach, left hander, seems to tighten up half way through and there's not much of a view through the corner. At least there's a painted median strip to run wide on, though wouldn't like to see someone on a bike hit the painted lines in the wet. I think there's been a dozen or so goes at patching the road surface over the last couple of years. I don't like that corner.

[1 Free Man]

Find out who the fuckwit's are that paint the tar snakes all over our roads. they are everywhere.
How hard would it be for them to sprinkle some course sand onto the tar when it is wet and give the bloody stuff some traction.
I have heard of a couple of riders that have come to grief on then when they are wet.
One guy finished up with 3 grands worth of damage to his Vstrom. He pulled out to pass a camper in a 50k zone, it was wet, his rear tire got onto a tar snake and he finished up in a ditch on the other side of the road.

had the willies my self on the bloody things more than once also those expansion joints on the new bridge look like an off waiting to happen. once again some sort of traction material would be a help.

[Old Steve]

There's a thread up earlier that mentions the glass beads the painting contractors put on paint markings on the road. If spread out, these are like a layer of ball bearings all over the road. Spraying contractors should have it written into their contract that they will leave the road free of hazards, especially those which may affect motorcyclists.