How many real bikers out there?

[SpankMe]

I would like to know how many full time bikers are in NZ. Riders like myself who have never, ever driven a cage and never will. It almost feels like a lifestyle choice in this cage driving world.

So if you have never been behind the wheel of a car and never wish too, let us know by voting option 1. :2thumbsup

If you have driven a cage in the past, but currently only ride a bike and never wish to drive a cage again, vote option 2. :niceone:

If you currently only ride a bike but will buy a cage someday, vote option 3 :confused:

Everyone else vote option 4. :bleh:

[White trash]

Thanks for making me feel bad. :drinkup:

[zadok]

I don't feel that I fall into any of those categories. EVERY time I go to work I use the bike and quite often on my days off, depending on what I am doing. I certainly use a car as well. Is there a category for that?

[SpankMe]

<br /><br />
Anyone who drives a car is option 4

[Ixion]

I don't feel that I fall into any of those categories. EVERY time I go to work I use the bike and quite often on my days off, depending on what I am doing. I certainly use a car as well. Is there a category for that?

What he said.

Cage is necessary when you have to transport old folk, great big hunksa wood and stuff.

[zadok]

<br /><br />
Anyone who drives a car is option 4
Can't agree with that one :no:

[SpankMe]

I'm looking for riders who have sacrificed everything to ride only bikes.

[Oakie]

Arghhh! I don't fit.
I take the bike unless there's a reason to take the car. (I can just see me trying to stuff 2 weeks groceries up my jacket and into my backpack)

[zadok]

Well, I'm going to spit the dummy. I AINT VOTIN' :moon:

[White trash]

Arghhh! I don't fit.
I take the bike unless there's a reason to take the car. (I can just see me trying to stuff 2 weeks groceries up my jacket and into my backpack)

People do it mate. Our beloved Administrator is one of 'em. Stop making excuses for your pathetic atempt and Bikerdom and get with the program.

I fit very certainly in Option IV

[Wolf]

From age 18 to 34, I'd've been able to tick "1".

My boss got downright adamant about me getting a cage licence so I could be exploited further - at my own expense too, I might add. I had to pay my own money to make myself more useful to the company - I already had a perfectly serviceable bike licence which was all I needed. Boss wouldn't accept my stance that if they wanted me to have a car licence, they could pay for it.

Envy you, SM - wish I could get away with not having a car licence but sadly, tis not the case.

As you've deliberately biased the poll, I can't tick "Cars are death-trap coffins on wheels and I hate 'em but I have to use 'em occasionally."

[Bonez]

Stupid fucking poll. Each mode of transport has a purpose. Just riding m/c limits your ability to carry out other tasks. Those that think m/cs are the be all to end all are tossers IMHO. :rofl:

[notme]

Given the choice I'd bike all the frickin time, but often the practical reality doesn't line up with that utopian dream.... :oi-grr:

[NC]

Mmmm Valient :love:

[Drew]

<br /><br />
Anyone who drives a car is option 4

Be fucked if I fall into cat 4, I got a wife and kids man! But I can agree that if you use a car, just cos it seems like too much work to get the bike out, wannabe shal be your label!

[James Deuce]

You can get fucked then.

How the fuck do you propose that I carry a pregnant wife and two kids (obviously soon to be 3 kids) on a bike?

I've had enough abuse and innuendo from this site in the last couple of days to last a good while thanks.

[Wolf]

I'm looking for riders who have sacrificed everything to ride only bikes.
Ah, fair enough.

[White trash]

You can get fucked then.

How the fuck do you propose that I carry a pregnant wife and two kids (obviously soon to be 3 kids) on a bike?

I've had enough abuse and innuendo from this site in the last couple of days to last a good while thanks.

I'll "innuendo" you in a minute, you funny little round man you.

[Drew]

Mmmm Valient :love:

VALIANT! Not Valient. You have now been demoted to a cage lover, who don't even know how to spell her preffered ride. :motu:

[James Deuce]

I'll "innuendo" you in a minute, you funny little round man you.

I've waited sooo long and now he offers! Just as he moves away. sigh.

[NC]

VALIANT! Not Valient. You have now been demoted to a cage lover, who don't even know how to spell her preffered ride. :motu:
Thanks, cracka :bleh:

[Drew]

Thanks, cracka :bleh:

I prefer my title spelt right too. It's CRACKWHORE :mad:

[eliot-ness]

Not enough choices there mate. A real biker is one who, on a rainy, cold morning, will reverse the Merc out of the garage so that he can get the bike out. Car or bike is not often a matter of choice. Family or business commitments usually decide which path you take. Personally, if I ever actually enjoy driving a car I'll have serious doubts about my sanity. (or senility). My longest drive in a car over the last ten years has been 5 miles, taking the wifes car for a WOF. No one would ride a bike if he or she didn't enjoy it. and that's the difference. Cars are for convenience. Bikes are for pleasure.

[Drew]

Not enough choices there mate. A real biker is one who, on a rainy, cold morning, will reverse the Merc out of the garage so that he can get the bike out. Car or bike is not often a matter of choice. Family or business commitments usually decide which path you take. Personally, if I ever actually enjoy driving a car I'll have serious doubts about my sanity. (or senility). My longest drive in a car over the last ten years has been 5 miles, taking the wifes car for a WOF. No one would ride a bike if he or she didn't enjoy it. and that's the difference. Cars are for convenience. Bikes are for pleasure.

That leaves me with a problem, cos I like working on cars too. I turned a carbed silvia into an injected turbo, just to see if I could, and now I got a fairmont, which is injected already, but I plan to put two turbos on it, and remove two of the doors.
I have to be a try hard then, and will proceed to vote myself that way. :oi-grr:

[Bonez]

Not enough choices there mate. A real biker is one who, on a rainy, cold morning, will reverse the Merc out of the garage so that he can get the bike out. Ahhh someone with a clue :niceone:

[Drew]

I just voted, only to find myself part of the majority. Most of us are in the same baot. THAT MAKES ME NORMAL!!!!!!!! I knew it would happen one day. :clap: :ride:

[White trash]

....remove two of the doors.
I have to be a try hard then,

Reverse it down the side of your house with the two l/h doors open.

Problem solved, you're welcome.

[Anonymous]

I have sacrificed just about everything for bikes... but given the oppertunity, I'd drive anything from small cars to 18 wheelers to ships or fly planes or what ever really. It's not really a mater of 2 wheels or 4 (aka cage).

I have the most fun on 2 wheels, yes but I do like variation, just for fun and sometimes the dreaded practicality.

[DingDong]

Well... spank me silly, riding bikes gives me my freedom... I like and always will.
A car is essential for most of with real lives, you are the wannabe dude... not me.

[GSVR]

<br /><br />
Anyone who drives a car is option 4


Thanks Spankme I needed that being the retarded cage driver type :weird:

[placidfemme]

I would like to know how many full time bikers are in NZ. Riders like myself who have never, ever driven a cage and never will. It almost feels like a lifestyle choice in this cage driving world.

So if you have never been behind the wheel of a car and never wish too, let us know by voting option 1. :2thumbsup

If you have driven a cage in the past, but currently only ride a bike and never wish to drive a cage again, vote option 2. :niceone:

If you currently only ride a bike but will buy a cage someday, vote option 3 :confused:

Everyone else vote option 4. :bleh:

I've never driven a cage, nor do I ever plan too :)

*uses my bike as my sole form of transport and when the weather is too bad to ride I bus :(*

[zeRax]

haha nice poll, nice #4 too HEHE

bikes my fulltime mode of transportation rain or shine~ cold or hot, have driven car, will probably drive again, but i wont spend money on a car, i own a car, but it was free, i dont think ill ever buy a car thou unless its a van or low deck ute for transporting bikes!

O_O!

[Drew]

I've never driven a cage, nor do I ever plan too :)

*uses my bike as my sole form of transport and when the weather is too bad to ride I bus :(*

Guess you really are perfect.
Eat shit and die! :motu:

[Ixion]

I've never driven a cage, nor do I ever plan too :)

*uses my bike as my sole form of transport and when the weather is too bad to ride I bus :(*


To bad to ride ? In Auckland ? Is that a confidence thing , or a "can't turn up at werk looking messy" thing . or ? (not taking the micky, just wondering)

Don't get black ice or tornados in Auckland. At most a bit of rain , some windy days.

[Badcat]

I would like to know how many full time bikers are in NZ. Riders like myself who have never, ever driven a cage and never will. It almost feels like a lifestyle choice in this cage driving world.

So if you have never been behind the wheel of a car and never wish too, let us know by voting option 1. :2thumbsup

If you have driven a cage in the past, but currently only ride a bike and never wish to drive a cage again, vote option 2. :niceone:

If you currently only ride a bike but will buy a cage someday, vote option 3 :confused:

Everyone else vote option 4. :bleh:

spank - you're a ladyboy.
your poll don't change a thing.
oh, and i'm a 4, pusscake.

[placidfemme]

To bad to ride ? In Auckland ? Is that a confidence thing , or a "can't turn up at werk looking messy" thing . or ? (not taking the micky, just wondering)

Don't get black ice or tornados in Auckland. At most a bit of rain , some windy days.

Usually it's the wind... I don't mind rain... and don't really give a shit if I'm messy for work... I'm the first person to get to work, and I'm alone for about an hour before anyone shows up... so plenty of time to tidy up...

But yeah the wind freaks me out... possibly a confidence thing, before I started biking (before I even had a bike) I was bussing to work, and it was a windy day, looking out the window of the bus as we were going over the harbour bridge... saw a kawasaki and started drooling, next minute the bus shook from the wind and the biker was down sliding one way... the bike the other... That freaked me out... and I've riden once in heavy wind on the motorway and nearly blown into the barrier, cars weren't even passing me in the lane next to me because the wind was throwing me around...

But I'm getting more and more confident and still riding when it's windy... on the rare occasion when I think it's too windy to ride home I just leave my bike at work (24 hour security, security gates and cameras... safer at work then at home lol)

[Ixion]

Usually it's the wind... I don't mind rain... and don't really give a shit if I'm messy for work... I'm the first person to get to work, and I'm alone for about an hour before anyone shows up... so plenty of time to tidy up...

But yeah the wind freaks me out... possibly a confidence thing, before I started biking (before I even had a bike) I was bussing to work, and it was a windy day, looking out the window of the bus as we were going over the harbour bridge... saw a kawasaki and started drooling, next minute the bus shook from the wind and the biker was down sliding one way... the bike the other... That freaked me out... and I've riden once in heavy wind on the motorway and nearly blown into the barrier, cars weren't even passing me in the lane next to me because the wind was throwing me around...

But I'm getting more and more confident and still riding when it's windy... on the rare occasion when I think it's too windy to ride home I just leave my bike at work (24 hour security, security gates and cameras... safer at work then at home lol)


Yeah, it's a confidence thing. Doubt the wind actually blew the Kawa rider off. Never heard of that happening. Probably he made the classic mistake, got scared when the gust hit him and overreacted into it , maybe even braked.

I've ridden the Harbour Bridge in all weathers, including some very high winds. One time the old Bridge Authority was actually stopping bikes and taking them across in their Austin Gypsies. They couldn't get the Velo aboard though (and I didn't want them messing it up) so I rode over. Wasn't too bad.

If you do a search theres some thread's here about riding in high winds. Trick is to relax, and keep speed and revs up. High winds, keep it on the redline. And relax. Big mistake is tensing up, trying to force the bike to go straight.

You'll be fine once you've got a bit more confidence and experience . (Bigger heavier bike helps too . Time you had problems on the motorway, was it the 150 ?)

[N4CR]

Well I don't plan on having a car, I wouldnt be able to support both bike and car.

Does getting a commercial pilots liscence count as #4 :P ?
I'm looking at my CPL and jet/multi engined stuff as a career in the airline industry.. screw uni :devil2:

Bikes and planes it is. :ride:

[motobob]

He he he

Yeah I thought like this when I was 20 as well. Sometime later the brain cell found some others :Punk: . I've this Kool HSV with that awesome V8 rumble, it sure don't handle like ma CBR but it sure flys down the road. But then again I'm not the "real biker" type, I just like to hoon around scaring little old ladies. Yeah s'pose it comes from growing up in West Auckland. I'm nearly 50 and have owned a bike most of my life so reading this thread was funny and puts a grin on ma face.

Enough of the I I I and I (oops) hope all you real biker types were out there riding in that rain on Saturday morning :whistle:

Cages have other reasons for being there than just to run some of us over. Like creating traffic jams for those poor buggers who have to get to work, and so on.

Oh and the CBR doesn't have any coffee cup holders either.

Motobob

Or should that be Clubbiebob (undercover tintop agent)

[placidfemme]

Yeah, it's a confidence thing. Doubt the wind actually blew the Kawa rider off. Never heard of that happening. Probably he made the classic mistake, got scared when the gust hit him and overreacted into it , maybe even braked.

I've ridden the Harbour Bridge in all weathers, including some very high winds. One time the old Bridge Authority was actually stopping bikes and taking them across in their Austin Gypsies. They couldn't get the Velo aboard though (and I didn't want them messing it up) so I rode over. Wasn't too bad.

If you do a search theres some thread's here about riding in high winds. Trick is to relax, and keep speed and revs up. High winds, keep it on the redline. And relax. Big mistake is tensing up, trying to force the bike to go straight.

You'll be fine once you've got a bit more confidence and experience . (Bigger heavier bike helps too . Time you had problems on the motorway, was it the 150 ?)

Yeah I suppose I shouldn't say the biker fell off due to wind... at the time I just assumed that seeing as no-one else was involved, it looked like he/she has just fallen off... I assume it was due to the wind...

Yeah when I was nearly blown into the barrier was on the 150. My partner rides it now and doesn't complain about the wind... I've noticed I don't get blown around as much on the 250 :) But still get freaked out sometimes :)

*will do a search for riding in high winds*

[Ixion]

..

Enough of the I I I and I (oops) hope all you real biker types were out there riding in that rain on Saturday morning :whistle:
..

.

Yep

.........

[motobob]

Hopefully more than 1. That Peak road and Riverhead road were empty of Bikes when I was out there drowning on my pushie.

Motobob

[Firefight]

[QUOTE=motobob]He he

Enough of the I I I and I (oops) hope all you real biker types were out there riding in that rain on Saturday morning :whistle:




Yep :cold:

F/F

[Gremlin]

Being 21, and lazy, I've only got the bike license anyway, but I know once you have a family etc, a car will be needed, so option 3 for me.

But for the moment, its bikes only, rain or shine. Coming from bicycles, I'm used to rain anyway, and the bike and I are close to 300kg, so I just lean into wind.

[motobob]

Hey Firefight since when do real bikers ride R6's or worse ride dirt bikes.

Are you the bullie driver up at Bike Park.

[myvice]

I hate cars, truly deeply despise them... But as I'm a mechanic its quite normal to, I own a litte pile of rust and clunks that has a passing resemblance to a car but ride every day and if I need to drive I still have to ride to work to pick up the death trap. Most people dont like me driving... I think it may be the way I try to lean the car around corners and squeeze it through gaps of a metre or so wide... Its hard to tell with all the screaming and climbing out of windows which one is the problem though, if any one wants to sit next to me to help with this dilema I would be quite amazed, er, I mean gratefull

[Coyote]

Does my '84 Laser count as a cage?

[Firefight]

[QUOTE=motobob

Are you the bullie driver up at Bike Park.[/QUOTE]

was up untill about 6 months ago.had to give it up due to other commitments

F/F :ride:

[SPORK]

Mwaughaha!

CageCageCageCageCage!

[crashe]

SpankMe you need more options mate.

I get to ride my bike 95% of the time. :love:
So therefore I take the car out for 5% of the time:
Taking my wee grandaughter out... as she is too small for the bike - plus my daughter wont let her on the bike.
I also take the car when I have to pick something up that I cant actually fit onto the back of the bike.
If it is absolutely hosing down and I have to attend a function.

Oh and I also have my HT license as well.

So I wont vote at all....
You need an option for those that have families and need the car for that reason and the bike for pleasure and the love of riding when ever they can.

[Lee Rusty]

say never - you too will get old and get 4 wheels to cart the kids etc

[motobob]

Firefight. I know this is off topic but your needed back up there. Or have they lost the Bullie. I hadn't ridden at Woodhill for a while and there was no rest among all the whoops. I guess I'll have to harden up.

[Firefight]

Firefight. I know this is off topic but your needed back up there. Or have they lost the Bullie. I hadn't ridden at Woodhill for a while and there was no rest among all the whoops. I guess I'll have to harden up.




Motobob, will send you a pm about woodhill later, wee bit busy atm :drinkup:

F/F

[SPman]

Bikes and planes it is. :ride:

I found that riding a bike helped my flying. When I had to sell the bike for the money to fly and got a cage (Austin big7 - 1938), my flying got worse....
:drinkup:

[Jeremy]

My bike is the only form of transport that I own. Sometimes I'll get a lift from someone else though, maybe only once a month though and it's usually because I need a lift after 10pm or if we've got the van for youth group then we fit 10 in it. However since I wasn't driving technically I didn't drive. So yay, option 1 for me.

[Jabez]

Can't agree with that one :no:
Me either, I ride my bike to work every day :ride: & now with wife in weekends get her time in saddle up ( She's just got her restricted).
But with a family as well the car is an essential item :devil2: , but I absolutely consider myself a biker :yes:

[Jeremy]

Hey why do you want to know this SpankMe? Are all of the people who select option 1 getting something special? Or are all of the people who select 4 getting banned from the site?

[Jabez]

Well I have owned bikes for over 25years & cars for only 21years, just because I need a car for practicality, does that make me a lesser biker, I think not!

[Bonez]

Hey why do you want to know this SpankMe? Are all of the people who select option 1 getting something special? Or are all of the people who select 4 getting banned from the site?If he did that WT would loose a lot of potential customers :weird: :ride:

[Zed]

VALIANT! Not Valient. You have now been demoted to a cage lover, who don't even know how to spell her preffered ride.

.....:laugh: .....

[Zed]

Stupid fucking poll. Each mode of transport has a purpose. Just riding m/c limits your ability to carry out other tasks. Those that think m/cs are the be all to end all are tossers IMHO. :rofl:It's interesting to see what comments come as the result of the polls on KB. I've put up a number of them since becoming a member and there's always one who will criticise your choice of words in creating the poll! WHY SHOULD WE BE SO PC IN HERE ALL THE TIME? :pinch:

SpankMe has explained his reasoning behind his choice of questions, so what if they don't fit your lifestyle! Some people just want everything to be so perfect with these polls - calling Hitcher!! :oi-grr:

[FROSTY]

well um er I refuse to enter this poll cos Im one of the sods thjat puts the cages on th road. Actually just lately Ive found road riding genuinely scarey

[James Deuce]

It's interesting to see what comments come as the result of the polls on KB. I've put up a number of them since becoming a member and there's always one who will criticise your choice of words in creating the poll! WHY SHOULD WE BE SO PC IN HERE ALL THE TIME? :pinch:

SpankMe has explained his reasoning behind his choice of questions, so what if they don't fit your lifestyle! Some people just want everything to be so perfect with these polls - calling Hitcher!! :oi-grr:

I think my "comment" was far less than PC. PC comes in many forms. If Spank Me doesn't doesn't want us, feckless, stupid, fat, pathetic, moronic, useless, bumbling, uncommitted motorcyclists here, he's just made a great case for it.

This poll is less than politic. I don't give a rat's banana for Spank Me's reasons. Let's just say I feel like I've wasted a couple of years contributing to a "community".

I've lost that loving feeling for sure.

[Zed]

Hey why do you want to know this SpankMe? Are all of the people who select option 1 getting something special? Or are all of the people who select 4 getting banned from the site?Separating the tares from the wheat so to speak...:bye:

[aff-man]

I only ride a bike.....

But will have to buy a cage someday/ get a licence for one cause as hard as i try i cannot fit the drumkit on the bike
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Bonez]

It's interesting to see what comments come as the result of the polls on KB. I've put up a number of them since becoming a member and there's always one who will criticise your choice of words in creating the poll! WHY SHOULD WE BE SO PC IN HERE ALL THE TIME? :pinch:

SpankMe has explained his reasoning behind his choice of questions, so what if they don't fit your lifestyle! Some people just want everything to be so perfect with these polls - calling Hitcher!! :oi-grr: Some here can't take a joke by the looks. The Poll is fucked up and everyone here knows it :motu:

[Zed]

The Poll is fucked up and everyone here knows it :motu:If I was SpankMe I'd punish you for saying that! :oi-grr:

[Waylander]

ONLY time I use the car is when my bike is down or I need to do some major moving. I don't car if it's raining, snowing whatever I'll take the bike. If it's risky to where I may damage my bike I'll walk or not go. Still wanna clasify me in with the others who will take the ar whenever it's convienient?

[Jantar]

I think my "comment" was far less than PC. PC comes in many forms. If Spank Me doesn't doesn't want us, feckless, stupid, fat, pathetic, moronic, useless, bumbling, uncommitted motorcyclists here, he's just made a great case for it.

This poll is less than politic. I don't give a rat's banana for Spank Me's reasons. Let's just say I feel like I've wasted a couple of years contributing to a "community".

I've lost that loving feeling for sure.

No, Don't take that attitude. Treat as the bit of humour it was meant to be. :rofl: Like many others I've indicated I'm a sometime biker. The fact that I need my 4x4 for reasons other than straight transport, or that while my kids were growing up I couldn't fit them all on a bike are completely irrelevent. There are many times I'm driving a cage when I'd rather be :ride: , so on those occassions I am a "biker wannabe"

[Silage]

Well as a full-time category 4 (four, IV, wha, quatre, char...) I think I can live with the "wannabe" label.

But four thumbs up to Spank :2thumbsup :2thumbsup :2thumbsup :2thumbsup (or is that 8?), great wind-up, excellent response rate and righteous indignation. PT prize goes to Spank. We all {looks around and is alone} love you man.

[Bonez]

I'm looking for riders who have sacrificed everything to ride only bikes. Just clicked. This poll has nothing to do with motocycles but bicycles............... :clap:

[Lou Girardin]

Sorry Spank, not enough options.
There should have been one for:
Had a cage with 200 HP per tonne, but felt I needed more.

[Oakie]

Cars are for convenience. Bikes are for pleasure.

You've got it in a nut-shell eliot-ness! No more needs to be said.

[Motu]

Been there,done that with the bike only thing - had a child adult sidecar to stay on bikes with kids.I ride a bike when I feel like it now....don't ride them when I don't feel like it - I make my own choices,and thems my choices....not your's,them are your's.

[Pixie]

Anyone that doesn't drive a 120 hp six cylinder diesel FIAT with three, whirling,40 inch saw blades on a 50 foot boom swaying every which way,is a PUSSY :motu:

[Mr Skid]

Cars are for convenience. Bikes are for pleasure.
Try having a root on a bike and in a car.
Then tell me which one is built for pleasure.

[Mooch]

There you have it !, I'm a first degree dirty cager !.
I don't believe. I'm always thinking motor cycles , I dream motorcycles, I use motorcycles as my number 1 leasure / pleasure activity etc, etc, Shit , went to a motor show on the weekend , walked past all the Ferraris , Aston Martins , Por cheeze's , Gt40 fords, Lotus's and Vaxhaull Manaro's , Past the Bently coupes , past the BMW Williams F1 car and straight to the Ducati stand , and followed by the Honda motorcycle stand.
But, according to this poll I'm just dirty cage driver. F@ck , better get rid of the Ducati thing and get myself a nice tasty cage with comfy seats and built in motorcycle bars on it . Not worthy of being a motorcyclists anymore. Now , where's that nice cagers BBS !
My wife would laugh at this poll . She was option 1 for a number of years, helped out on many motorcylist learners courses , races buckets , but don't tell anyone , she actually drives a cage from time to time. Perhaps Spankme would like to tell her that's she's not a motorcyclists. :no:
Good windup Spankme !.

[Bonez]

Anyone that doesn't drive a 120 hp six cylinder diesel FIAT with three, whirling,40 inch saw blades on a 50 foot boom swaying every which way,is a PUSSY :motu:MEEEOOOOW!!!!!! :clap:

[eliot-ness]

[QUOTE=Mr Skid]Try having a root on a bike and in a car.
Then tell me which one is built for pleasure.[/QUOTE

Congratulations!!! You've found a good use for the car. (but doesn't that come under 'convenience')

[Lou Girardin]

Anyone that doesn't drive a 120 hp six cylinder diesel FIAT with three, whirling,40 inch saw blades on a 50 foot boom swaying every which way,is a PUSSY :motu:

Can you filter in that?
Or do you just make your own lane?

[Hitcher]

Option 4 is a bit harsh. Some of us drive cages out of necessity at times but our preferred form of transportation is a bike.

The poll is also a bit hard on those of us who realised our dream later in life. But what the hey?

[vifferman]

I'm looking for riders who have sacrificed everything to ride only bikes.
The only thing I've ridden has been bikes; I've never ridden a horse, goat, camel, or donkey. While it's been a sacrifice to be able to ride bikes, as they're basically a toy, I don't miss not riding anything else, as I have no desire to do so.

[Oscar]

Where's the option that says "I don't give a root?".

[Ixion]

The only thing I've ridden has been bikes; I've never ridden a horse, goat, camel, or donkey. While it's been a sacrifice to be able to ride bikes, as they're basically a toy, I don't miss not riding anything else, as I have no desire to do so.

You have led a sheltered life. I have ridden a horse, a donkey, and a camel. The horse had lousy brakes, the donkey's acceleration was pisspoor and the camel had the worst cornering I've ever experienced. All three were very unreliable. The horse could do good wheelies, but

[Racey Rider]

If I was SpankMe I'd punish you for saying that! :oi-grr:

Hmm,, Maybe you ARE SpankMe!!! Wouldn't That be a show stopper!! :rofl:

Who is this Spankme anyway?! I vote we banish him from the site for coming up with such a Pedantic poll!! :nono: (PT)
(no I don't know what it means ether)

[vifferman]

You have led a sheltered life. I have ridden a horse, a donkey, and a camel. The horse had lousy brakes, the donkey's acceleration was pisspoor and the camel had the worst cornering I've ever experienced. All three were very unreliable. The horse could do good wheelies, but
I don't reckon them. They all whiff, and they don't got no handlebars.
At least some goats have handlebars, but the seat's a bit uncomfortable. And they still whiff.

[White trash]

If he did that WT would loose a lot of potential customers :weird: :ride:

Thanks for the concern. Very nice of you.

[Wolf]

If I was SpankMe I'd punish you for saying that! :oi-grr:
If I were Hitcher, I'd correct your grammar. :devil2:

[Wolf]

Try having a root on a bike and in a car.
Then tell me which one is built for pleasure.

Congratulations!!! You've found a good use for the car. (but doesn't that come under 'convenience')
That depends on whether or not it's "safe" to take her back to your place... :devil2:

[BNZ]

<br /><br />
Anyone who drives a car is option 4

Now ive recieved my fair share of insults, but never has anyone called me an OPTION 4!!!! :mad:

[Bonez]

Thanks for the concern. Very nice of you.You're welcome. The more preloved m/cs that are in circulation is good for us m/c riding, cage owning wannabe bikers :whistle:

[Velox]

Heh heh - this is quite amusing.

SpankMe, I think you might have hit a bit of a "sensitive spot" here!

[Zed]

If I were Hitcher, I'd correct your grammar. :devil2:If I were a Lion, I'd eat you up Wolf! :yes:

[inlinefour]

but this would clearly have to be the lamest poll that I've seen here so far :whistle:

[Oscar]

What I wanna know is: What's a biker and why would I care if I was one?

Until three or four years ago, I never rode on the street, apart from transport sections. This was despite buying my first bike in 1977. In the 27 years since, I've raced at National Level, been pit crew at several MotoGP's, served on my local club as El Presidente, been a District Steward and generally had a fantastic time with various forms of motorcycle sport.

So if someone I've never met doesn't consider that I qualify for a title I've never quite understood, I think I'll get over it....

[Mooch]

I'm looking for riders who have sacrificed everything to ride only bikes.

Interesting, does you wife own a car or do you both use bikes / public transport / taxis only ?.

[Jeremy]

Interesting, does you wife own a car or do you both use bikes / public transport / taxis only ?.

Sacrificed "everything"

[surfchick]

i'm never gonna be a hardcore biker only babe...surfing comes first, that means 4x4... getting a quiver on a bike just ain't gonna happen...without things getting ugly and yo granny getting a surfboard in the eye :devil2:

[SpankMe]

Interesting, does you wife own a car or do you both use bikes / public transport / taxis only ?.

I have told a couple of girlfriends "thanks, but no thanks" because they would just not get on the back of the bike no matter how much I tried to persuade them. Pity, they were rather nice. But there’s always plenty more that are willing pillions that enjoy riding. My current partner, our KB shirt model, will jump on the back rain or shine without hesitation and she doesn't own a car. :love: She has also carried some rather large packages on the back as well.

[Motu]

I used to know a woman who never drove a car,she didn't even go on her last trip on 4 wheels,they took the body off her sidecar and mounted the coffin on the sidecar chassis.She rode a sidecar all her life,bringing up a couple of kids,shopping,everything on her sidecar,pretty committed if you ask me.

Lots of reasons to ride a bike,lots of reasons not to ride a bike,I just go with the flow....

[motobob]

Ha ha ha. This post has really exposed our feelings for not being Hard core bikers. Anyway all you guys and gals that chose options 1 and 2 please identify yourselves when on the road cos we cage drivers will get the red mist and then reinforce the reasons you hate cages. Just kidding.

Good to see you have uncompromised standards. Out of Interest how many of you are over 35 an age when real bikers are entering their prime years and have shown they have not lost the passion for riding. :clap:

Motobob

God I'm sick of riding to the Dairy, It takes sooooo long to get my Rossi replica leathers on. :puke:

[vifferman]

Ha ha ha. This post has really exposed our feelings for not being Hard core bikers.
I just clicked option 4, before I'd even read any posts. I found the whole "holier than thou" / "more staunch than youse fullas" thing smacked of a chip on someone's shoulder or summat.

I've ridden for a long time now, too long to have to justify the whys and wherefores of it.
I'm not as hard core as the two Filthy Few gang members I saw in the 70s, who both had their left legs in plaster (altercation with a ute) on a Triumph. The pillion carried the crutches.
I'm not as hard core as OneArmedBandit. :niceone:
I'm not a 'real biker' because I enjoy driving good cars on winding roads. (But I do admit to driving crap cars on winding roads and wishing I had my bike). And sometimes I honestly prefer driving to riding. Life's too short to do things because you should, rather than because you want to.

I commuted by bike every day in Christchurch, including two days when it was snowing, apart from the odd times I had to take the car to drop kids off. And the one time when I took the bike only as far as the first intersection, and decided black ice wasn't a good idea, especially when one couldn't even walk on it, and the 4WD was slippin' and slidin' everywhere. If I was hard core, I would've gone and put some screws in the tyres, hardened up and rode. :whistle:

I know I'm not hard core like SpankMe, especially after reading this:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41699&page=1&pp=15

[Odin]

<br /><br />
Anyone who drives a car is option 4

and how does one transport 2 kids on a bike.... to school... with schoolbags ....in the rain....

Or does real bikers not have kids (should we speculate why :rofl: )

[SpankMe]

and how does one transport 2 kids on a bike.... to school... with schoolbags ....in the rain....

Make them do what myself and many others my age did to get to school even thou it was many kms. Walk or ride a bicycle.

[Odin]

Make them do what myself and many others my age did to get to school even thou it was many kms. Walk or ride a bicycle.

So you'd be fine with sending 2 girls, 3 and 7 out in the world walking cycling on 80 / 100 Km roads by them self ? Good on you. You'll make a great dad :rofl:
Guess I'm not quite as tough as i though i was :whistle:

[vifferman]

Make them do what myself and many others my age did to get to school even thou it was many kms. Walk or ride a bicycle.
Well yeah, that's true. :yes:
I used to walk only a km to primary school, then cycle about 5 or 6 to intermediate, then about 7 or so to high school.
Then I got my first bike. :devil2:
Then I wrecked it, and had to walk.:argh:

Then I got a better one. :cool:

Anyway - I digress. We've got kids / parents so soft where we live, that some of them drive their kids 50m (no, I'm NOT kidding!!) to the school. :weird:

[Motu]

and how does one transport 2 kids on a bike.... to school... with schoolbags ....in the rain....

Or does real bikers not have kids (should we speculate why :rofl: )

Read post 100 just above yours....same as I did,with a sidecar.

[Ixion]

and how does one transport 2 kids on a bike.... to school... with schoolbags ....in the rain....

Or does real bikers not have kids (should we speculate why :rofl: )

Easy. Saddlebags. Two kids, left and right. Done.

[dhunt]

and how does one transport 2 kids on a bike.... to school... with schoolbags ....in the rain....

Or does real bikers not have kids (should we speculate why :rofl: )
Well if this wasn't NZ I say take them both on the bike, I've seen families of 7 putting along quite happly on a dunger old 125 or similar. I say we just need to get the laws changed :2thumbsup

[SpankMe]

Yep, I had three on a 250cc cruiser in Thailand and there was still room on the tank. :whistle:

[Lou Girardin]

Anyway - I digress. We've got kids / parents so soft where we live, that some of them drive their kids 50m (no, I'm NOT kidding!!) to the school. :weird:

That's because they could get Michaeled on their way to school.

[Wolf]

Back in grandad's heyday, there would be at least five crammed on and in his bike and sidecar - grandad, grandma, mum, my uncle and at least 1 of my aunts. They rode everywhere - all over the King Country on gravel roads - when grandad was working in the sawmills.

You'd probably not get away with quite as many, these days.

Wish I did own a decent bike with side-car - it'd mean that we could take the boys on the Toy Runs and other events now instead of waiting for them to get "big enough".

As to getting stirred up about this poll, I have my own sense of identity and don't give a hoot whether others would classify me as a "real biker" or not. I know that I prefer bikes to cars for a large number of reasons, and I also know that cars have their uses; I've been called insane by others as I've set off on journeys on a variety of different bikes under various conditions; I've ridden in adverse weather from metal-bits-get-brittle-and-snap-off cold to torrential rain and gale force winds (when getting hit by branches or, worse, power lines was a real risk); I rode my TS125 everywhere with my right arm in a cast and I've stood in solitude by my bike at around 2am in the middle of nowhere having a quiet cigarette - miles had gone by and more miles to come before I reach my destination - revelling in the feeling of being alone and free, apart from all humankind. It's what I feel and care about inside that matters to me.

I don't judge who is a "real biker" as we all have our own needs and those needs vary from person to person; time to time. If a person is taking on the traffic on two wheels, they have my respect - be they on a scooter or a Harley. If a person is taking on the traffic on two wheels in the freezing cold or pissing rain, then they have even more of my respect - but I would not deem someone who doesn't "not a true biker" or a "wannabe" - I do not know them, I do not know what reason or combination of reasons they may have for laying-up the bike for winter. I'll let others decide what labels they wish to apply to themselves, if any.

[250learna]

bike is main transport, and for weekend riding. Car is for wet days and passengers :yes:

[Zed]

I've seen families of 7 putting along quite happly on a dunger old 125 or similar. I say we just need to get the laws changed :2thumbsupDid you see them take that bend though?? :shit:

[Mooch]

I have told a couple of girlfriends "thanks, but no thanks" because they would just not get on the back of the bike no matter how much I tried to persuade them. Pity, they were rather nice. But there’s always plenty more that are willing pillions that enjoy riding. My current partner, our KB shirt model, will jump on the back rain or shine without hesitation and she doesn't own a car. :love: She has also carried some rather large packages on the back as well.

I admire your dedication. Sounds like your GF is a "keeper”. My wife was dedicated like this when we met, got me interested in bikes. She couldn't understand why I would spend so much on cages, as these were only something to get you from A to B. Well, times changed, I ended up getting bike, and she a car. I asked her how she'd class herself these days. The term Latté Biker came up. So, could you add an option , "I'm a wanna be Latté Biker" and add 2 votes. :banana:

[Speedy]

i think your all stupid....... i personally have a passion for bikes,motor or not, i ride in rain wind everything,bike is my first and no doubt my last , but i still like cars and there performance i love the look the sounds just like diff bikes everthing has a purpose if u chose not 2 ride thats your prob if u chose not 2 drive also your prob dnt give other people shit because they have an opinoun* fuk just grow up!

[Str8 Jacket]

i think your all stupid....... i personally have a passion for bikes,motor or not, i ride in rain wind everything,bike is my first and no doubt my last , but i still like cars and there performance i love the look the sounds just like diff bikes everthing has a purpose if u chose not 2 ride thats your prob if u chose not 2 drive also your prob dnt give other people shit because they have an opinoun* fuk just grow up!


Whoa!!! Mate, I think that you need to take your bike out and go for a damn good ride, then maybe you can RELAX?!

just my opinion......

[Sniper]

Do you guys do this to increase people blood pressure?
Dredge up a thread to type in appauling english and with no moral to the cause. You must be abused.

[hazard02]

real bikers have mullets. how many of you sport a mullet?
option 4 if you dont have a mullet..

[*sic]

dear god let it die in peace.

straight mixer me.

[Ixion]

Real bikers hit themselves on the toes with hammers.

[XP@]

Need to change my vote.... I have succumed to the requirements of family live and have added class 1 to my licence.

So now I can (legally) drive a car... not that I want to or would do unless I have to...

[gamgee]

theres no option for "i've never owned a cage but i do drive them" cause that'd be the one i ticked

[outlawtorn]

I'm looking for riders who have sacrificed everything to ride only bikes.
I only drive the car when I am with my wife and kids, if it's me on my own I'm on the bike.....

[outlawtorn]

Real bikers hit themselves on the toes with hammers.
:killingme ...................

[Skyryder]

Given the choice I'd bike all the frickin time, but often the practical reality doesn't line up with that utopian dream.... :oi-grr:

That's the option missing.

I voted 4 under protest.


Skyryder

[Skyryder]

I think my "comment" was far less than PC. PC comes in many forms. If Spank Me doesn't doesn't want us, feckless, stupid, fat, pathetic, moronic, useless, bumbling, uncommitted motorcyclists here, he's just made a great case for it.

This poll is less than politic. I don't give a rat's banana for Spank Me's reasons. Let's just say I feel like I've wasted a couple of years contributing to a "community".

I've lost that loving feeling for sure.


Jeez J2 keep ya shirt on ol' son. Methinks you're reading too much into the criticism. Spank's reason............for the poll? Maybe he just wanted to know how many here are like himself.

Skyryder

[mstriumph]

What I wanna know is: What's a biker ....? ............................

So if someone I've never met doesn't consider that I qualify for a title I've never quite understood, I think I'll get over it....

What he said.

We, all of us, owe SpankMe HUGE for the KB site and this forum --

but that notwithstanding, this thread has proved, regrettably, that he is as capable of starting an ill-advised, biased, sanctimonious, divisive thread as any of the rest of us on here.

Welcome to the human race, SpankMe - its all a learning experience, innit :drinkup:

[Brett]

Well sadly i have to vote option 4. I would love to say i hate my car...but i dont. It is relatively fast compared to most road cars and handles like its glued to the road...how can i hate it??? it is nearly as much fun in the twistiesd as the bike...plus there is the sound of a spooling up turbo...mmm doesn't beat the bike at 18000rpm tho!

Option 4 :whocares: :argh:

[White trash]

I'm a real biker! I own a cage (partly). I fucken have to, I have two kids (partly). I don't own a bike, yet I manage to scab one each day for the ride to work. I ride in the rain, the snow, the wind, the hail and whatever else NZs crappy weather can throw at me. I've ridden from here to Wellington in 6 hours via Wanga-vegas and the Parapara's. I've done Wellington-Auckland-Wellington in one stint. I've gone Paraparaumu to Wgtn on a GSXR thou' at 100kph and NO FASTER! (That was the hardest) I've met and mingled and GOT ON WITH people who ride Harley-Davidsons/Yamahas/Hondas/Kawasakis/Suzukis/MininMotos/Quads/Farmbikes/MotoCrossers/Enduros/Trikes/Sidecars/Nortons/MotoGuzzis/Ducatis/Hyosungs and some of my best friends ride FUCKEN TRIUMPHs for Christs sake. I've probably met more individual bikers than anyone on this site.

Yes. I'm a real biker.

[sunhuntin]

im a real baby biker :wait:

i prefer my bike over any other form of transport, and that includes not using
buses and taxis when its pissing down. i ride no matter what the weather. nothing thrills me more than riding across cobham bridge at night with a nice wind coming in off the ocean

i dont know how to drive a car....heck i know where the key goes, how to fill one with gas, but as far as turning the engine over and moving in one...yeh right mate! even quad bikes scare the shit outta me. my old man taught me to drive his ride on lawn mower last year....even how to back a trailer with it, but give me two wheels any day!!

although i must admit...when the summer sun sets in, i will walk to the gym instead of ride...maybe. LOL.

:stupid:

[NordieBoy]

Real bikers hit themselves on the toes with hammers.
I manage to put a hacksaw into the top of one of my toes.

Doh!, quickly grab toe and put pressure on the bleeding bit.
Now race upstairs to clean it up and put a plaster on it...
Ummm....
You ever tried getting up stairs whilst bent over holding your own toe?
Hopping works ok for the first 1 or 2 steps...

:D:D

[Gremlin]

Real bikers hit themselves on the toes with hammers.
Well if we're on the subject, although I haven't hit my toes with a hammer...

1 garden fork through left foot
1 curved tree saw through left thumb... funniest part was it was a big cut, but didn't lose the tip, yet when it healed it seemed to shorten a bit :laugh:
Many hammers onto fingers...

But I'm lucky, nothing is missing yet. Still in one piece :niceone:

[nicmotors]

yep agree with one of the above, all modes of transport have their pros and cons..
all comes down to what your up to... :whocares:

However good on all who are die hard bikers.

[ducatilover]

im a real baby biker :wait:

i prefer my bike over any other form of transport, and that includes not using
buses and taxis when its pissing down. i ride no matter what the weather. nothing thrills me more than riding across cobham bridge at night with a nice wind coming in off the ocean

i dont know how to drive a car....heck i know where the key goes, how to fill one with gas, but as far as turning the engine over and moving in one...yeh right mate! even quad bikes scare the shit outta me. my old man taught me to drive his ride on lawn mower last year....even how to back a trailer with it, but give me two wheels any day!!

although i must admit...when the summer sun sets in, i will walk to the gym instead of ride...maybe. LOL.

:stupid: thats the way to go..... :2thumbsup ....unfortunately i probably have to get a ute next year when i start my apprenticeship :sick: but i'll buy a duke to make up for it....

[Phenoix]

Interesting pool, Im guessing SM was a bit bored and wanted to see the dedication on the site.
Im just a wannabe, my cage pays for me bike.
But hell, life goes on, cant anyone take a joke ?

[Marmoot]

although I like my lowered sports car coz I can have my chick(s?) in there, I have a nice sportsbike because my dad gave me money :headbang:

I am a real biker!

[Storm]

Oh well, guess I'm not small minded enough to be a biker. Shrugs and gets on with life

[metric]

yep... been a cage driver for quite a few years, but since owning a bike (under a month) am totally converted

drove my car (that I used to love) yesterday and just can't get past having to WAIT IN TRAFFIC... one instance waiting twice for the same set of lights - definitely considering selling it in once off my L-licence to get a 600cc

if only there was a "former cage driver, but have seen the light and never want to voluntarily drive a cage again (unless absolutely necessary*)" option to select

* Note: one benefit of my car is that I can fit my ice hockey gear and sticks when heading off to play every week... can just imagine trying to lug that shit to the game on my bike!

[Odin]

I guess i fall i category 4. Though i would imagine i ride more km's then most in the other categories. But thats fine, your all so much more biker then me. I ride roughly 630Km per working week or about 20,000Km per year. But i also have 5 kids and they are dam hard to fit on a bike. And as to fitting 2 weeks of shopping on a bike.... Well i could try but I'm not that stupid. So i will PROUDLY say that i am practical in cat 4 and not insanely fanatic in cat 1.

[fireball]

i hate cages they scare me
cant drive so why bother with one?

i am strictly BIKES ONLY when im the one in control

Lilsel is the one with 4 wheels im just the passenger

[Str8 Jacket]

i hate cages they scare me
cant drive so why bother with one?

i am strictly BIKES ONLY when im the one in control

Lilsel is the one with 4 wheels im just the passenger

Fuck yeah, im with you there. I freak out when im in a cage going whatever speed and am contiuosly putting the 'imaginary brake' on but am happy to ride or pillion without freaking out at almost any speed. I cant really ever see me getting a cage licence either!

[jim.cox]

E: None of the Above

I own a couple of cages - one for the missus and one for hauling trailers, building materials etc. I have licences for bike, cage, HGV and Passenger Service

But I'm two wheeled by nature - I like leaning for corners

I commute on two wheels five days a week, rain or shine

And my favourite recreation - other than flying - is to ride

"Live To Ride - Ride To Work"

[s8306]

I would like to know how many full time bikers are in NZ. Riders like myself who have never, ever driven a cage and never will. It almost feels like a lifestyle choice in this cage driving world.

So if you have never been behind the wheel of a car and never wish too, let us know by voting option 1. :2thumbsup

If you have driven a cage in the past, but currently only ride a bike and never wish to drive a cage again, vote option 2. :niceone:

If you currently only ride a bike but will buy a cage someday, vote option 3 :confused:

Everyone else vote option 4. :bleh:

Well,if it almost feels like a lifestyle choice then you aint a "biker" either mate.

[Str8 Jacket]

Well,if it almost feels like a lifestyle choice then you aint a "biker" either mate.

Yeah your right. Spankme has no friggin idea about being a biker. I reckon he should go start his own website up or something.

[McDuck]

Yea. I think that people who own bikes as well as a cage should be as mucha bike as a person who dosnt owna cage. Here is why. Bikes are exspencive, i can put 2 or 3 tyres on the cage for the cost of one tyer that the bike needs, i dont need to have a helmet in the cage etc i can still go fast in a cage yet i still own two bikes?

[Taz]

I have three bikes and a car. I use the right tool for the job and don't have to beg my car owning mates for favours. But you are still my idol spank :lol: You're so much better than any fool who has driven a car. Maybe new name? Skidspank? :Pokey:

[hang0ver]

I drive a Toyota Hilux, New Zealand's most popular light-truck. I wouldn't have it any other way.
Although it doesn't come close to riding, I love it to pieces.

I was glad I learned to drive in a car, otherwise I would have paid with my body instead of a bumper, making those mistakes that learners inevitably do...

[s8306]

Yeah your right. Spankme has no friggin idea about being a biker. I reckon he should go start his own website up or something.

Your reply would suggest that i hit a nerve.It was a p/t just like this thread is.

[Str8 Jacket]

Your reply would suggest that i hit a nerve.It was a p/t just like this thread is.

Hehe :chase:

[skidMark]

Thanks for making me feel bad. :drinkup:


Yeah but your excuse is you gotta get the racebike to trackdays...race vans are permitted lol

[skidMark]

yep... been a cage driver for quite a few years, but since owning a bike (under a month) am totally converted

drove my car (that I used to love) yesterday and just can't get past having to WAIT IN TRAFFIC... one instance waiting twice for the same set of lights - definitely considering selling it in once off my L-licence to get a 600cc

if only there was a "former cage driver, but have seen the light and never want to voluntarily drive a cage again (unless absolutely necessary*)" option to select

* Note: one benefit of my car is that I can fit my ice hockey gear and sticks when heading off to play every week... can just imagine trying to lug that shit to the game on my bike!


Thats the only reason i have a car is for lugging big shit around...well when i have a car....

So plan is a van next...so when i need to do cage stuff i can, but doubles as a race van for taking bike too and from ruapuna.:devil2:

[Mr Merde]

52 years old this year. Got my licence at the tender age of 15. Never got around to getting a licence for a cage. This isnt to say I havent driven. A number of times I have been known to get behind the wheel and take a spin but I just dont feel the pull towards two extra wheels.


When I am old and decrepid ( say 55 years old) I may gor for the 4 wheel cage but only if my balance and coordination have been shot to hell.

Chris

[skidMark]

When I am old and decrepid ( say 55 years old) I may gor for the 4 wheel cage but only if my balance and coordination have been shot to hell.

Chris

Which is when you buy a hayabusa trike :headbang:

[dipshit]

Wow! There are actually some losers motorcycle riders out there that can't afford, or don't know how to drive a car and have no car licence..??? :rofl:

No wonder some people here have such a "us and them" mentality.

[zeocen]

Woops, I chose option 2, but reading the first post I'm actually option 1 hehe.

Never owned a car, never driven a car, only ridden motorcycles and that's the way it will stay, rain, hail or shine.

/Edit to reply to above post: It's just a choice, I just personally like to ride bikes no matter the conditions, have no need for a car and if, in some outrageous emergency I need to be in one, my other half has her car, I've got no problem with car drivers. I just personally like to ride bikes, a lot :D I only see challenges to not having a car license, not obstacles. Gotta make life interestin' !

[old git]

Iagree with ZADOK, I ain't voting either, i ride 95% of days, but still have to get in the truck to make money to buy more toys...........and .........last year the missus worked out i've done over 850,000 k's in 30+ years......so surely i can call myself a real biker.
Not like the dork i work with that has a seven year old 'Busa with less than 24,000 k's on the clock and no car.........he rides a friggin PUSH bike to work.......what a TWAT.

[old git]

Hey, its Sunday...................Ice has gone away................time for a Blast out to Oxford and beyond.......................

[carver]

i have to drive company vehicles, but i have always ridden bikes for personal transport

[jrandom]

Motorcycles are dangerous, and should be banned.

[Oscar]

Jeez, is this orgy of onanism still going?
You guys must be really, really hard, 'cause yer Bikers...

































Me?
I gotta life.
I don't need no stinkin' labels.
I don't need your approval.

[Bonez]

(To the tune of Ghost Busters)
Your pride and joy has a woopsey?
Now who you gonna call?

CAGE DRIVERS!!

[Coyote]

Had my learners car licence for 3 years now. My bike Full for a year :yeah:

Though a teenager without a car is as bad as a teenager without a cellphone (I know cause I haven't got one of them either). You get pushed into getting a car by peers and parents, plus the lack of storage space on a bike doesn't help.

[BAD DAD]

Option four. So what. I'm about as ashamed of being a car driver as I am of being heterosexual.

[MIXONE]

Option four. So what. I'm about as ashamed of being a car driver as I am of being heterosexual.

I don't give a fuck what so called" bikers "think.Over the years I've owned over 50 bikes and done a gazzillion miles on them.Also owned many cars and love driving as well.Hell if it's got a motor then I'm interested in it.Never did like to be labeled.I think trying to fit people in boxes is for idiots and politicians.

[MGST]

I have three bikes and a car. I use the right tool for the job and don't have to beg my car owning mates for favours.

I have 3 cars and a bike. The bike sees the light of day 5 days a week rain hail or shine, 1 car goes to the supermarket each weekend, and the other 2 cars sit quietly in the garage waiting for some love and attention.

[s8306]

Dont know if this will work but try this and take the test.WhyBike.com

[_Shrek_]

I don't give a fuck what so called" bikers "think.Over the years I've owned over 50 bikes and done a gazzillion miles on them.Also owned many cars and love driving as well.Hell if it's got a motor then I'm interested in it.Never did like to be labeled.I think trying to fit people in boxes is for idiots and politicians.

bling for you MIXONE
& :motu: to the pole :ride: 7 days a week all weathers & when i need to take wifes 4x4 :love:

[Ocean1]

Group 4.

Right tool for the job, (or as close to it as I can get my grubby hands on), and like it or not sometimes the right tool has other than two wheels.

[Nagash]

Hey cool.. I'm number one :D

That makes me a real biker then.

Without a bike anymore..

[H00dz]

4 and proud, p.s dare ya to tell me to my face I'm not a real biker.....Everytime you take it out on the road:angry2: your a REAL BIKER dickhead!!!

[Ryan432]

I have both a bike and a car but noone can tell me I'm not a real commited biker when Ive Just spent the last two hours riding around Auckland picking stuff up in the pouring rain (the wind picked up a bit for a while also). therefore I choose option 5, A real biker who also owns a car for when he needs to carry around more than one sexy lady at a time! :cool: LOL

[Motu]

I have 10 motorcycles and half a dozen cars....I have a 3 car garage that can't fit a car because it's full of motorcycle stuff.I don't take my bike to the shop for someone to fix it.If that's not being a real biker I don't know what is.Certainly not someone who can't fix their only means of transport without help,or someone who has to get other people to shift things for them because they won't fit on a bike.A real biker is self reliant,totally immersed in it,not some wimp who doesn't get their hands dirty.

[Biggles2000]

Well according to this poll I’m also a biker wannabe. I haven’t been called this before, so you can go and kiss my shiny leather clad butt. You can actually call me what you like as long as it isn’t “late for dinner”.

I like all my vehicles, my knees and hands ache now with arthritis so I am not much of a cold weather rider, but saying that I have made to the last 19 Brass Monkeys. Take for instance Saturday last weekend, it was snowing here and I chose to fire up my old trusty v8 landrover and drove over Dyers pass into Christchurch for supplies. I could have taken the bike but chose not to, it was just too cold and far too dangerous. Does being prudent make me a biker wannabe?

I also have an interest in performance cars, and my sports bike now has 4 wheels, air conditioning and a CD player. Does this make me a biker wannabe, well I actually don’t care. It does however make me an old fart in a sports car.

While I was a student the only vehicle I has was a 250cc motorcycle, it was easy to park cheap to run. I put up with the inconvenience because it worked. Having said that I did not have a choice, the bike was all I had so I had to use it. Does necessity make me a real biker?

I now have a choice when and where I ride, I guess I am lucky in that regard. I ride because I want to, I ride because I can and I ride because it is good for the soul. Does this make me a biker wannabe? Possibly but actually I don’t care I’ve gone out riding…

[Ixion]

I have 10 motorcycles and half a dozen cars....I have a 3 car garage that can't fit a car because it's full of motorcycle stuff...

Fark. You got more bikes than me. I've been outbiked .How did that happen.

Still , on the good side that gives me an an angle to overcome Mrs Ixion's objections to another bike. "But that only makes nine, dear (even by your count). And Mr Motu has 10, so clearly nine is not excessive at all". Woot. Trademe, here I come.

Hm, not sure though if she'd be convinced. I think she thinks you are a bad influence. Especially since she found out about the frogs.

[Oscar]

Fark. You got more bikes than me. I've been outbiked .How did that happen.

Still , on the good side that gives me an an angle to overcome Mrs Ixion's objections to another bike. "But that only makes nine, dear (even by your count). And Mr Motu has 10, so clearly nine is not excessive at all". Woot. Trademe, here I come.

Hm, not sure though if she'd be convinced. I think she thinks you are a bad influence. Especially since she found out about the frogs.

Ask Motu how many of his actually run....:whistle:

[Ixion]

Good point. Except he might ask the same

Hey, Mr Motu, have you got that Ducati running yet?

[SPman]

..... Especially since she found out about the frogs.
Do tell.........

Unloaded the Suzi GT250 this morning - the barn space is getting smaller......the car and van already live outside and it's starting to look bleak for the Allis Chalmers ...........


Ask Motu how many of his actually run....:whistle:
irelevancies....irrelevancies..............it's the having!
A mate in Waitara has about 45 (at last count) '50's and '60s Hondas, and I'm sure 4 or 5 are actually restored and running................

Anyway - who revived this thread - I'm such a hard biker I can't be buggered looking........

[TygerTung]

I'm a racer, I use a car to tow my motorcycle trailers with all my bikes on to the track.

I also ONLY drive my car on the road if I have to, eg going to pick people up, or if I have a whole lot of stuff in the back etc.

I go shopping on my scooter usually, and I only ride a scooter, motorbike, or pushbike to work.

I guess that makes me a car driving wannabe.

[Motu]

Fark. You got more bikes than me. I've been outbiked .How did that happen.



Well,they aren't all mine,one is my wife's,one the son in laws,and bikes for my kids....I paid for them,but they belong to them (off road only).And as Oscar points out....they don't all go.But bikes that don't go are bikes that need work,and I'd be kinda lost if I had a shed full of bikes that only needed a polish....where's the fun in that? The bike under the sheet is a Guzzi,not a Ducati...it'll have to go as part of my next clean out.

[Oscar]

Well,they aren't all mine,one is my wife's,one the son in laws,and bikes for my kids....I paid for them,but they belong to them (off road only).And as Oscar points out....they don't all go.But bikes that don't go are bikes that need work,and I'd be kinda lost if I had a shed full of bikes that only needed a polish....where's the fun in that? The bike under the sheet is a Guzzi,not a Ducati...it'll have to go as part of my next clean out.

What sorta Guzzi?

'Bout we went for a ride, isn't it?

[Subike]

um counting bikes in a garage?
err
a local gentleman
bought this farm recently,
to move away from the prying eyes of the big city.
In the past month he has dumped 6 tonnes of parts that are US.
The shed?
Well want your eyes to fall out?
Mine did
Two, industrial sized chook barns full!!!!!
I went to get a clutch pack...err...took my choice from more than 10 XS1100's!
Where? I cannot tell, but he has over 100 RIDEABLE bikes on reg hold according to his records.
This is not a wind up, as he is a retired wrecker from somewhere, these are the ones that got away......He is retired now, and spends his days rebuilding bikes. They appear on the market when he needs more cash.
The farm is a working farm, but you would not guess its secret
Now THAT is what I call a biker
Oh and he drives a truck!

[_intense_]

>> holy F*** Spankme! where the hell did you get that scarey avatar? gave me the creeps.

[Motu]

What sorta Guzzi?

'Bout we went for a ride, isn't it?

A Stornello 160....I've had it from new.But stopped riding it nearly 20 years ago,and it's been lying around since...and looks like it.And that reminds me the owners manual is sitting in front of me...I have to scan it and send it to Pete Kelly.

I'd be up for a blat.

[Ixion]

Ah, Moto-Cuzzy, Ducrappi, all a sama Eytalian , FOREIGN like. Not proper pukka Briddish. Doesn't matter what the badge says, the electrics will crap
out. I drive an Alfa , I KNOW about Guiseppi's electrics. It's their revenge for Monte Cassino.

Have you got that Yamahappy engine showhorned into theh Triumph frame yet?

[Ixion]

A Stornello 160....I've had it from new....

Hey ? You had a NEW bike? You bloated capitalist plutocrat , you :devil2: . I never had a new bike in my life .

I thought you wuz a fellow bottom feeder, how come you wuz feeding at the top of the food chain? :motu: And why'd y' pick THAT bike for a new one!

[Motu]

Hey ? You had a NEW bike? You bloated capitalist plutocrat , you :devil2: . I never had a new bike in my life .

I thought you wuz a fellow bottom feeder, how come you wuz feeding at the top of the food chain? :motu: And why'd y' pick THAT bike for a new one!

Coz I was bottom feeding! They were '74 models lying around in some house/car shark/wrecker in franklin - we bought 5 of them in a folding cash in hand waved under the nose deal....with trailers and pickup around the corner.That was in 1978,and I sometimes see one surface and track down the owner...just keeping an eye on my baby Starlings.It's a nice bike,the engine sort of a V twin turned around....and in it's day was way faster and handled way better than anything made in that other country with precision but no passion.

[Ixion]

Ah, well, that's different. So long as you wuz ripping off the capitalist exploiters, like. Nothing wrong with the BIKES to be sure, except the electrics. But, of course, they wuz FOREIGN. Didn't even have proper nuts n bolts, real spanners didn't fit them. Never take the place of the Bantam.

(We seem to have very successfully hijacked this rather boring old thread) .

And you still haven't let on about the Trimaha . Have you found a jack big enough to force the frame members apart yet? Bet you haven't you've been spending all your time trying to figure out how to make BMW gearboxes change gear like proper transmissions haven't you. I have some of the magic Molyslip magic goo left. Doesn't really make any difference, but you can persuade y'self that the crunch-clonk is less noticeable (from 2 kilometres away) than it was before.

[Motu]

(We seem to have very successfully hijacked this rather boring old thread) .

And you still haven't let on about the Trimaha . Have you found a jack big enough to force the frame members apart yet? Bet you haven't you've been spending all your time trying to figure out how to make BMW gearboxes change gear like proper transmissions haven't you. I have some of the magic Molyslip magic goo left. Doesn't really make any difference, but you can persuade y'self that the crunch-clonk is less noticeable (from 2 kilometres away) than it was before.

Yeah,crap thread about massaging someones ego because they don't know how to drive a car.



The Yamumph is a plaything for my mind in boring moments at this stage....I walk past a bike and mentally fit the forks or rear wheel into the parts I have,things like that.I want to look at Erik's spare Bandit.Need to clear the bike stand - the DT230 has been on it for a month and I've done 2 hours work to it...need to stop helping other people in their troubles and sort myself out instead.Then the Umphaha goes on.I think the R65 shifts really well,certainly better than my /5 or XLV750 did.The wife has completed her German set....a C220 to match her R65.

There is a nice D3 riding around here - with C10 forks and a Suzuki front wheel....good to know free thinkers are still out there.

[Oscar]

Yeah,crap thread about massaging someones ego because they don't know how to drive a car.




Heheheh...brilliant - that needs highlighting.

[Dodger]

I don't feel that I fall into any of those categories. EVERY time I go to work I use the bike and quite often on my days off, depending on what I am doing. I certainly use a car as well. Is there a category for that?

Add me to that as well.
I'm not allowed to transport my 16 month old daughter on the bike :(

[90s]

Yeah,crap thread about massaging someones ego because they don't know how to drive a car.

This is a young person inexperience thread - add to "I'll never drive a car"

I'll never -
sell out
get a boring job
work 9-5
get married
slow down
stay in instead of go out

Joni might think about all the things she said as a young'un -

I'll -
never like boys
like x music
do (insert saucy thing here)
wear clothes like (mum etc)

Did you keep to them?

Trouble about Liefstyle choices (as Joni put it) - eventually LIFE tends to get in the way ...

Its pretty easy to say "I'll never" from the high horse.

Pretty hard to look back and find you kept to those choices. If you post here in 30 yrs and can say "and I never DID own a car" I'll give you top respect.

However, until then I find those people who keep riding even though life gets in the way - including needing to drive and own cars - get my respect as the real riders ...

[90s]

If you post here in 30 yrs and can say "and I never DID own a car" I'll give you top respect.

Except I'll probably be dead of course ...

[slowpoke]

Aaaaaah, "labels", "pigeon-holes" and "stereotypes", ya gotta luv 'em.....not to mention the self-righteous judgemental types who seek to apply them.

It's ferkin' funny too how people take a holier than thou pride in putting themselves through certain completely avoidable hardships, like my grandmother who took a vicious pride in handwashing dishes, even when a dishwasher was available...or the old bugger up the street who used to battle away for hours every Thursday with an equally ancient push mower, even though he wasn't short of a quid.

Now that I think of it, is it pride...or is it fear?

Never driven a car? So you've never driven around with your hand on the silky skin of your girlfriends' thigh? Or gone through the pre-dawn ritual of checking your bike/trailer and heading off to your first race meeting, your mind ablaze with the possibilities of what you might have forgotten and what the day will bring. You've never driven home from the hospital with your amazing wife/life partner and fresh first-born child in the car, your whole universe seemingly within arms reach?

To me it's a fairly simple life choice, do you want to be a passenger...or a driver?

[terbang]

Well I drive a ute and a jet aircraft... looks like its option 4 for this mere mortal.

[Mikkel]

Well I drive a ute and a jet aircraft... looks like its option 4 for this mere mortal.

I actually thought the hard part about planes was the flying bit - not the driving around bit.

I learn something new every day it would seem.