Professional online traders may have to offer refunds

[p.dath]

http://www.stuff.co.nz/technology/4623689/Trade-Me-backs-pro-declaration


Thousands of full and part-time traders would need to offer refunds on any unsatisfactory new and second-hand goods they auctioned, under a proposed reform of the Consumer Guarantees Act that would apply to all auction sites.

Feels like Trade Me is about to "become of age".

[FROSTY]

On that front all I ask that its a level playing field. So ALL auctions are covered by the same laws not just online auctions.
Our "freinds" at Turners auctions have been getting away with selling no warranty cack for years

[Latte]

On that front all I ask that its a level playing field. So ALL auctions are covered by the same laws not just online auctions.
Our "freinds" at Turners auctions have been getting away with selling no warranty cack for years

Gets a bit tricky there..... dealer auctions, DVA Auctions, on behalf auctions etc.... I'd say the only time it should be required is when it's selling a vehicle direct to the public (which is most of their business now isn't it? Importing their own stuff to pump through their auction houses).

[scissorhands]

I have been disappointed upon receiving cheap Chinese crap from TM. The quality is often atrocious.
People should not be allowed to import and sell such crap

[FROSTY]

Gets a bit tricky there..... dealer auctions, DVA Auctions, on behalf auctions etc.... I'd say the only time it should be required is when it's selling a vehicle direct to the public (which is most of their business now isn't it? Importing their own stuff to pump through their auction houses).
All of which are possible senarios for TM auctions.
Turners are selling a fair few of their own cars and a fair few from "tame" importers

[avgas]

I have been disappointed upon receiving cheap Chinese crap from TM. The quality is often atrocious.
People should not be allowed to import and sell such crap
As long as there are morons to buy it - why not?
Do you need bubble wrapping to protect you from the big bad world?

[scissorhands]

As long as there are morons to buy it - why not?
Do you need bubble wrapping to protect you from the big bad world?

Just from unfair idiots looking for cheap shots

[Edbear]

I do a lot of trading on TM and have found it good, but the success fees and relisting costs do cut into your profit margin. Most pay by direct credit which goes into my business account anyway, or if by credit card over the phone, it goes into the Merchant account and then is transferred to my business account less the transaction % fee, which of course eats further into the profit margins... :facepalm:

[avgas]

Just from unfair idiots looking for cheap shots
Cheap or easy?
Most shots a cheap - you just make it easy.

But seriously why pay peanuts and then cry about crap. Its not exactly going to fix the solution.
If you didn't buy it in the first place there would be no market for it.

[HenryDorsetCase]

the only issue I had is that there is a very low threshold to become "professional" IIRC it was $2k, and six trades a year or something.

I buy CD's, DVD's bike parts and have bought and sold bikes over the years. But I must be the least professional trader there is, cos I always lose money. Hmmmmm. perhaps it could be a tax advantage for me. Suck on that IRD!

[steve_t]

the only issue I had is that there is a very low threshold to become "professional" IIRC it was $2k, and six trades a year or something.

I buy CD's, DVD's bike parts and have bought and sold bikes over the years. But I must be the least professional trader there is, cos I always lose money. Hmmmmm. perhaps it could be a tax advantage for me. Suck on that IRD!

Me too. LAQC? :innocent::shutup:

[Edbear]

Me too. LAQC? :innocent::shutup:

LOL!!! With TradeMe talking about increasing their "Success fee's" it will cause me to think before I list as it can be a shame to have to charge more for a product on TM than I could sell it for otherwise.

As for refunds, everything I sell has a warranty so no biggie for me.

[BMWST?]

LOL!!! With TradeMe talking about increasing their "Success fee's" it will cause me to think before I list as it can be a shame to have to charge more for a product on TM than I could sell it for otherwise.

As for refunds, everything I sell has a warranty so no biggie for me.

tell me how you can reach more peole so easily?

[Edbear]

tell me how you can reach more peole so easily?

Therein lies the problem. When you're starting out TM is probably the best option as advertising is very expensive and short of physically driving around and calling on everyone, (which I do as well), not much else is as effective until your website is better set up and on the first page of Google.

I got my first email enquiry today from Google Adwords which seems to be good value, esp as they gave me a sizeable credit to start with.

[Thani-B]

the only issue I had is that there is a very low threshold to become "professional" IIRC it was $2k, and six trades a year or something.

It's buying goods over $2000 to sell. I sell a lot of stuff on TM, but I never buy something with the intention of selling it. It says it will be worded to protect those who just sell stuff that they owned and used themselves first.

[gammaguy]

I Used to buy and sell on Trade Me all the time,my feedback was up over 2000.

I offered a full money back guarantee on everything I sold except electrical parts.

Over the years i was trading there i can count the number of problems I had one one hand.

Its like anything,if you are an honest trader the new rules should give you nothing to worry about.

Its about time TM became more professional ,like Ebay,and it should make it a better place to go to for buyers.They are still a long way behind Ebay though,their fees are way too high for the rubbish service they provide sellers(they wanted me to pay nearly $500 per month for a trade me store,I have one on Ebay that reaches billions of buyers worldwide and it costs me less than $20),and that was why I closed my account.

Trade Me needs to wake up

[Gremlin]

Therein lies the problem. When you're starting out TM is probably the best option as advertising is very expensive and short of physically driving around and calling on everyone, (which I do as well), not much else is as effective until your website is better set up and on the first page of Google.

I got my first email enquiry today from Google Adwords which seems to be good value, esp as they gave me a sizeable credit to start with.
Often going direct to the guys gets a discount as they do put an extra margin on the goods to cover the fees. Just a bit of reading their profile then googling normally gets what you need :shutup:

[gammaguy]

Often going direct to the guys gets a discount as they do put an extra margin on the goods to cover the fees. Just a bit of reading their profile then googling normally gets what you need :shutup:

exactly

so Trade Me are making the buyers pay more,then conveniently letting the sellers take the blame for covering the extra fees they charge

I now sell on Sella,where they charge no fees,and I can give my buyers a better deal because of it

[p.dath]

I got my first email enquiry today from Google Adwords which seems to be good value, esp as they gave me a sizeable credit to start with.

+1. I'm a big fan of Google AdWords. Works great for us. All you have to do is create a good short advert, and choose the right keywords ...

[Edbear]

exactly

so Trade Me are making the buyers pay more,then conveniently letting the sellers take the blame for covering the extra fees they charge

I now sell on Sella,where they charge no fees,and I can give my buyers a better deal because of it

I've got a Sella account, and am going to start there as well. Results wise, I'm not sure how it rates by comparison, how are you doing with it?


+1. I'm a big fan of Google AdWords. Works great for us. All you have to do is create a good short advert, and choose the right keywords ...

Which they offer to help you with as well.

[Edbear]

Often going direct to the guys gets a discount as they do put an extra margin on the goods to cover the fees. Just a bit of reading their profile then googling normally gets what you need :shutup:

I often do that myself.

[HenryDorsetCase]

It's buying goods over $2000 to sell. I sell a lot of stuff on TM, but I never buy something with the intention of selling it. It says it will be worded to protect those who just sell stuff that they owned and used themselves first.

Ah cheers. I havent read the policy or anything