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Sable
7th February 2011, 20:10
"A police officer has been left red-faced after running a red light and colliding with another patrol car in Christchurch yesterday morning.

The marked police car was heading east along Bealey Ave with a woman from a domestic dispute and another officer in the back when the crash happened about 6.20am, Canterbury road policing manager Inspector Al Stewart told The Press.

"Due to being distracted by (the woman), the driver of the car has gone through a red light," he said.

The car hit an unmarked police car heading south, leaving the driver of the marked car bruised but no-one else was hurt.

"The initial indication is that speed isn't an issue and that both were travelling under the speed limit," Mr Stewart said.

"It's difficult at times when you are dealing with someone like that not to get distracted and it's just a matter of bad timing."

The crash would be investigated before a decision was made on whether to take action against the driver." - Stuff.co.nz

steve_t
7th February 2011, 20:15
Bad timing? WTF?!! The guy was distracted and not even paying enough attention to see the red light. Anyone else would probably get charged for careless driving...

Sable
7th February 2011, 20:18
Yeah, it's bullshit aye? when you're piloting a ton and a half of steel distraction is not a fucking excuse. Speed kills is crap too, it's a symptom rather than a cause.

KiWiP
7th February 2011, 20:22
"Due to being distracted by (the woman),

Bullshit! There was another officer in the car that could have been dealing with her and if she was being such a distraction he should have stopped the car.

Treat him like any other red light runner!

Mom
7th February 2011, 20:23
Being distracted is a bitch. No one is perfect. Mind you I have never run a red light in my life :innocent:

bogan
7th February 2011, 20:26
Being distracted is a bitch. No one is perfect. Mind you I have never run a red light in my life :innocent:

Indeed, but those more safety conscious would remove the distraction before continuing. I don't think I've run a red either, even been known to stop at the odd green in fact :innocent::innocent:

KiWiP
7th February 2011, 20:26
But if the plainclothes driver was wearing a high vis jacket it wouldn't have happened :dodge:

hellokitty
7th February 2011, 20:27
I have never run a red light :angry: a stupid bitch ran a red light and hit me when I was 19. Smashed my eye socket, nose and cheekbone. Took 3 operations to put my face back together.

No excuse, being distracted. This is drummed into you when you learn to drive and when you sit your test for your license.

ajturbo
7th February 2011, 20:33
glad i was not in his (?) bad timing line......

ajturbo
7th February 2011, 20:36
Treat him like any other red light runner!


fuck yeah!!!.. if it had been you or i..
1. would not have made the news
2. we would not be riding for some time

baptist
7th February 2011, 20:44
glad i was not in his (?) bad timing line......

So true, his distraction could have killed or seriously injured a rider... still, not his fault aye:innocent:

ajturbo
7th February 2011, 20:53
So true, his distraction could have killed or seriously injured a rider... still, not his fault aye:innocent:

was the other cop wearing a HI-Vis?... bet he wasn't, so it was his fault

spookytooth
7th February 2011, 20:55
only reason it was bad timing is he didnt hit a privet cit who woulda been charged for the crash

Coldrider
7th February 2011, 22:04
better work stories

"Despite what's happening in the police car, the driver has got a duty to take care," he said.

The crash would be investigated before a decision was made on whether to take action against the driver.

Both cars were off the road with "moderate to serious" damage.

"The crash will be investigated in the normal way and the file will be passed to the district crash panel."

Believe it or not

scumdog
7th February 2011, 22:59
Dang!
Now MORE speeding tickets will have to be dished out to pay for all the damage.....

scumdog
7th February 2011, 23:03
only reason it was bad timing is he didnt hit a privet cit who woulda been charged for the crash


A 'privet cit':blink:
Is that something like a civet cat???


Why would a civet cat be charged for a crash?
And what is the hourly rate for that?:shutup:

miloking
7th February 2011, 23:22
Dang!
Now MORE speeding tickets will have to be dished out to pay for all the damage.....

I think you guys are already few million bucks ahead on that....so maybe instead you should all take some time off and learn how to drive properly.

scumdog
7th February 2011, 23:24
I think you guys are already few million bucks ahead on that....so maybe instead you should all take some time off and learn how to drive properly.


What?

And miss the joy of crashing a car we don't own??:blink:

Gremlin
8th February 2011, 00:51
And miss the joy of crashing a car we don't own??:blink:
I can imagine how it went... :lol:

P1: Holy shit dude, you just crashed into my car
P2: Man, I am sooo sorry
P1: Well, nevermind, its not like its mine, or I have to pay for it
P2: Hey, true! Me neither!!
P1: Who's telling our boss?
P2: uh.... :blink: :facepalm:

Devil
8th February 2011, 07:05
Yeah, I read that article and couldn't believe the emphasis they put on them not speeding.
So... it's ok to run reds and risk killing someone as long as you're not speeding?
Righto then!

shrub
8th February 2011, 07:12
how the hell did they crash? I mean seriously, if you don't speed you don't crash no matter how badly you drive, so one of them must have been speeding. Unless they were drunk. Maybe they were drunk?

Scuba_Steve
8th February 2011, 07:37
how the hell did they crash? I mean seriously, if you don't speed you don't crash no matter how badly you drive, so one of them must have been speeding. Unless they were drunk. Maybe they were drunk?

we'll that wouldn't be uncommon for the police, you could be onto something there.:drinkup:

Swoop
8th February 2011, 07:51
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bogan
8th February 2011, 08:10
Dang!
Now MORE speeding tickets will have to be dished out to pay for all the damage.....

and how many donuts did those cops need afterwards to make them feel better again? that'll put a dent in the budget.

Usarka
8th February 2011, 08:26
Did the prisoner manage to leg it in all the confusion?

avgas
8th February 2011, 09:20
I thought it was compulsory for cops to wear safety vest........surely if both were wearing hi-viz in big reflective cars this accident did not happen......

must be an early April fools on us. this event never happened.

onearmedbandit
8th February 2011, 09:38
Hmmmmmm, I wonder how exactly this woman was 'distracting' the driver...

steve_t
8th February 2011, 09:41
Hmmmmmm, I wonder how exactly this woman was 'distracting' the driver...

:killingme:2thumbsup

scumdog
8th February 2011, 10:06
Hmmmmmm, I wonder how exactly this woman was 'distracting' the driver...

The usual way from my experience is by the subject lying back in the rear seat, swearing like a trooper and trying to kick shit out of (my) the drivers head, tends to be a tad distracting...

Of course those experienced in distracting police drivers while being transported in the police car may explain how THEY did it...:whistle:

superman
8th February 2011, 10:12
The usual way from my experience is by the subject lying back in the rear seat, swearing like a trooper and trying to kick shit out of (my) the drivers head, tends to be a tad distracting...

Of course those experienced in distracting police drivers while being transported in the police car may explain how THEY did it...:whistle:

They don't put in panels inbetween the back and the front?! Or at least a mesh :facepalm:

Sounds like that's just asking for trouble.

scumdog
8th February 2011, 10:14
They don't put in panels inbetween the back and the front?! Or at least a mesh :facepalm:

Sounds like that's just asking for trouble.

No panel
No mesh
No anti-spit device

rustic101
8th February 2011, 10:17
If these http://www.carbonmotors.com/machine were available the distraction would have been contained. I guess perspex spit screens will eventually be fitted.....right after they get AVL/MDT etc working.

The Vid:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mcJcw6fm498

gets interesting at 1:09

superman
8th February 2011, 10:17
No panel
No mesh
No anti-spit device

Well you have just gained some respect from me :yes:

Coldrider
8th February 2011, 16:24
But seriously, how the hell do you go through an intersection that you have not seen the lights or not sure if you have the right of way.
Self preservation would have kicked in for me and I'd of stop short because I don't want to injure /kill myself or anyone else, not knowing of the situation.

That is why I do not believe the reason for a minute.

Scuba_Steve
8th February 2011, 16:39
No panel
No mesh
No anti-spit device

Shit your right now you mention it, they don't. They didn't even hand cuff us when we we're arrested & the 2nd P.I.G. sat up in the passengers seat, bout the only "security" they did have was the child lock on the doors

caseye
8th February 2011, 17:59
But seriously, how the hell do you go through an intersection that you have not seen the lights or not sure if you have the right of way.
Self preservation would have kicked in for me and I'd of stop short because I don't want to injure /kill myself or anyone else, not knowing of the situation.

That is why I do not believe the reason for a minute.

We've all of us ended up on the wrong side of the road after cutting a corner , luckily most if us don't collect the big truck.
This poor bloody copper will be charged, nothing surer.
Scummy is right, nothing to prevent a back seater causing real damage to a driver or other front seater.
Bout time we gave em simple protection devices that make it impossible for this to happen instead of bitching about who is or isn't going to be charged.

Coldrider
8th February 2011, 20:25
We've all of us ended up on the wrong side of the road after cutting a corner , luckily most if us don't collect the big truck.
This poor bloody copper will be charged, nothing surer.
Scummy is right, nothing to prevent a back seater causing real damage to a driver or other front seater.
Bout time we gave em simple protection devices that make it impossible for this to happen instead of bitching about who is or isn't going to be charged.He didn't end up on the wrong side of the road by cutting a corner, he ran a red light as reported.
If he was distracted he should have stopped, put the foot on the brake, pull over, drive defencively, be in control.

ktm
9th February 2011, 01:03
HAhaHAhaHAha they will all get away with it and you all know it so stop bleating OK

Goblin
9th February 2011, 04:48
He didn't end up on the wrong side of the road by cutting a corner, he ran a red light as reported.
If he was distracted he should have stopped, put the foot on the brake, pull over, drive defencively, be in control.No, he wasn't in "mantrol".:weird:

ajturbo
9th February 2011, 05:07
No panel
No mesh
No anti-spit device

don't police cars have boots???

shrub
9th February 2011, 07:27
We've all of us ended up on the wrong side of the road after cutting a corner , luckily most if us don't collect the big truck.
This poor bloody copper will be charged, nothing surer.
Scummy is right, nothing to prevent a back seater causing real damage to a driver or other front seater.
Bout time we gave em simple protection devices that make it impossible for this to happen instead of bitching about who is or isn't going to be charged.

There is NO excuse for cutting a corner and NO excuse for running a red light. What if the silly woman had taken me out on my bike instead of another plodster? I would have been very seriously injured and my bike trashed, and I ride on those roads every day, so it's a real possibility.

There was another cop in the back seat and the passenger was a woman, so the feeble excuse that she was kicking the cops seat just doesn't cut it. The reality is a police officer, a professionally trained driver, made a seriously stupid and potentially fatal mistake while in control of nearly 2 tonnes of steel and glass travelling at 50 kmh - around 15 metres per second. Nobody, LEAST OF ALL A PROFESSIONAL DRIVER has any excuse not to focus completely on the task in hand.

If she was unable to do so because of the distraction of the passenger in the back seat, and if her colleague was unable to control the passenger she should have pulled over and called for assistance.

i have absolutely no sympathy for a halfwitted amateur who crashes a red light and nothing but contempt for a so-called professional. And I bet she would have had the gall to lecture me on road safety if she had pulled me up for doing 105 kmh on an empty country road.

steve_t
9th February 2011, 07:49
This poor bloody copper will be charged, nothing surer.

We'll see :yes:

awayatc
9th February 2011, 07:53
Christchurch cops eh...?

Heard they where shaken.....:yes:

scumdog
9th February 2011, 12:29
The reality is a police officer, a professionally trained driver,

In New Zealand??:blink:
Mwahahahah....

Just like all NZ Police are highly trained marksmen....or women.

shrub
9th February 2011, 12:33
In New Zealand??:blink:
Mwahahahah....

Just like all NZ Police are highly trained marksmen....or women.

If they're not, then they should not be allowed behind the wheel, and that's yet another argument against arming police

scumdog
9th February 2011, 12:33
There was another cop in the back seat and the passenger was a woman, so the feeble excuse that she was kicking the cops seat just doesn't cut it.

A woman eh? - and we all know women are weak and easily controlled huh?

How sexist.

Pfffft...

shrub
9th February 2011, 12:42
A woman eh? - and we all know women are weak and easily controlled huh?

How sexist.

Pfffft...

Or are cops more "weak and easily controlled" than women?

Smifffy
9th February 2011, 15:21
At least popo wasn't txting or chatting on the celly.

Or fixing the lippy.

Or maybe they were?

Coldrider
9th February 2011, 16:02
kicking of the seats is kust KB manufactured evidence......
I thought a knee into the thigh just as guiding their head into the roof pillar of the back door just as they are being eased into the patrol car bought 7 minutes of subdued behaviour.

scumdog
9th February 2011, 16:08
kicking of the seats is kust KB manufactured evidence......
I thought a knee into the thigh just as guiding their head into the roof pillar of the back door just as they are being eased into the patrol car bought 7 minutes of subdued behaviour.


Maybe it was 8 minutes into the journey??:blink:

Coldrider
9th February 2011, 16:11
Maybe it was 8 minutes into the journey??:blink:or too many do gooders with cameras

superman
9th February 2011, 16:23
A woman eh? - and we all know women are weak and easily controlled huh?

How sexist.

Pfffft...

You say it's sexist to say women are weak?

Let's look at how the police allow women into the police compared to the men on the fitness side.

A two and a half kilometre run (in under 10min to 12min for men or 12min to 14min for women depending on your age). 20% longer than the men
Vertical jump ability (men this is 48cm and for woman 40cm) 83% the height of the men
Maximum number of push ups you can do continuously (34 or more for men 20 or more for women) 59% pushups of the men
Grip strength (combined total for both hands of 96kgs for men and 52kgs for women) 55% grip strength compared to men
Legislative sexism?

Who would a criminal rather be up against? :shutup: Which means the public cannot view them the same as the policemen due to the entry criteria.

scumdog
9th February 2011, 16:58
You say it's sexist to say women are weak?

Let's look at how the police allow women into the police compared to the men on the fitness side.

A two and a half kilometre run (in under 10min to 12min for men or 12min to 14min for women depending on your age). 20% longer than the men
Vertical jump ability (men this is 48cm and for woman 40cm) 83% the height of the men
Maximum number of push ups you can do continuously (34 or more for men 20 or more for women) 59% pushups of the men
Grip strength (combined total for both hands of 96kgs for men and 52kgs for women) 55% grip strength compared to men
Legislative sexism?

Who would a criminal rather be up against? :shutup: Which means the public cannot view them the same as the policemen due to the entry criteria.

Not ALL women are like that - you should see the mad skanky buffalo-butt drug-addled ones we deal wit at times, could tip a Kenworth on its nose some of them.

caseye
9th February 2011, 18:29
Yeah but a Kenworth ain't! that BIG.

For the record, I did not say they should be excused because of what ever was, or was not happening in the back of the patrol car, just that if you haven't been in such a situation like that then,you can't say with any certaintity what you might do and how fast you may be able to react to a boot to the head from behind.

Shrub, no ordinary Police Officerf is "a trained driving Professional"here in NZ.FACT.
Some, those who go on to be something other than an ordinary Policeman are given quite extensive driving training and can and do drive extremely fast when required.
BUTT as has been demonstrated by Herr Comrade Helens poor old driver, they are still subject to the rules of the land.
Pity she didn't have the BALLS to simnjply man up and say "I told him too"!
Which by the way I'm sure she did.
That of course is simply my own humble opinion.

fuknKIWI
9th February 2011, 19:20
If he'd followed standard procedure he would've turned down a side street & then they could beat the shit out of her:shutup:

Smifffy
9th February 2011, 19:48
If he'd followed standard procedure he would've turned down a side street & then they could beat the shit out of her:shutup:

Or sodomise 'er with an ASP :blink:

fuknKIWI
9th February 2011, 20:18
Or sodomise 'er with an ASP :blink:

Or both:woohoo: