Awesome mod, potential product?

[bogan]

So my latest mod has got a bit out of hand (I started off just trying to get it to breath easier :scratch:), and my bike is getting a loom rebuild similar to a CAN-bus system. Additionaly GPS and Txt communications are being added, the clocks replaced with an LCD screen (PSP size), the ignition barrel replaced with an RFID reader(uses little tags around the size of a 20c coin, can be sewn into gloves, or wallet, you can even have em surgically implanted :shit:), and will have a camera at the rear feeding the image to the screen so the mirrors can be binned. GPS navigator and txt/horn based alarm should be easy to get in there, datalogging functionality too, also headlight/taillight modulation.

Basically I'm wondering whether anyone else would want (and be willing to pay for) something like this, as the design would be slightly different if it was for other bikes as well. Parts cost is likely to be around 1k, and you'd need somebody able to replace and rewire your bikes loom, as well as finding somewhere for the GPS/GSM aerials.

Thoughts?

[Ronin]

Get back to me after you have ridden it in the rain :yes:

[James Deuce]

I like the surgically implanted bit. Let me know when you have that service up and running.

[imdying]

the ignition barrel replaced with an RFID reader(uses little tags around the size of a 20c coin, can be sewn into gloves, or wallet

Thoughts?I've got one of these on one of my bikes, cost me USD$8 including shipping (yup eight). For another $60 you could get a GPS/GPRS unit to track it too.

Same bike has a CAN bus datalogger on it too, cost about $600 all up (including a wide band sensor, albeit just the one sensor).

It's a nice idea, but I wouldn't pay a grand for it, and I like spending money on that particular bike.

[imdying]

I like the surgically implanted bit. Let me know when you have that service up and running.Right now.... $8, plus you'll need a surgical grade RFID. I can tell you where to order one cheap, and what type of RFID you'll need. I also know of an electrical engineer who has designed the piggy back circuit to make wiring it to your bike painless (he has given the designs to all for use for nothing, there's three to choose from depending on how you want it to work). He's also tested another RFID system, the name of which escapes me, but is about USD$80 IIRC, and has a 30 foot range. Or a couple of feet it you cut the antenna off, rather than around 100mm of range, it that interested you more.

[James Deuce]

Right now.... $8, plus you'll need a surgical grade RFID. I can tell you where to order one cheap, and what type of RFID you'll need. I also know of an electrical engineer who has designed the piggy back circuit to make wiring it to your bike painless (he has given the designs to all for use for nothing, there's three to choose from depending on how you want it to work). He's also tested another RFID system, the name of which escapes me, but is about USD$80 IIRC, and has a 30 foot range. Or a couple of feet it you cut the antenna off, rather than around 100mm of range, it that interested you more.

Me likey!!

[bogan]

It's a nice idea, but I wouldn't pay a grand for it, and I like spending money on that particular bike.

yeh, that was pretty much what I was thinking, but figured it couldn't hurt to ask. The screen/camera and integrating them all together is a pretty big plus I reckon, sum of parts and whatnot. It will clean up the bars and front end hugely, (the loom up there is enormous and retarded atm) which I like on a naked bike, not so useful on a faired one though.

[rwh]

I probably wouldn't buy such a product ... but I'd love to see this kind of stuff published in an open-source manner, Arduino style :)

Likewise your electric bike stuff, especially your abandoned home-brew controller.

Richard

[Mom]

Thoughts?

You are the mad professor?

[rwh]

I like the surgically implanted bit. Let me know when you have that service up and running.

I read somewhere that vets can do it - it's the same tech as microchipping dogs.

Whether they're legally allowed to, I don't know though ...

Richard

[James Deuce]

You are the mad professor?

If he invents flubber, I'm marrying him.

[bogan]

I probably wouldn't buy such a product ... but I'd love to see this kind of stuff published in an open-source manner, Arduino style :)

hmmm, problem with that is I'm using some boards a mate has developed with the new ARM processors (arduinos wouldn't be able to run the display) on them, so may not be able to open source that. Otherwise, it's SOP from me, if I can't make decent money from it, open source it!


Likewise your electric bike stuff, especially your abandoned home-brew controller.

tis the kiwi way, try some DIY, if it fails, get professional shit :facepalm:


You are the mad professor?

I prefer the term awesome, but yours may be more accurate :p

[FROSTY]

Me my bike and thje road--NOT me my bike 1000000 u tubers and the road

[vifferman]

If you're looking to simplify your bike's wiring, you'd like this product (http://www.webbikeworld.com/r4/dispatch-1/) then.

[bogan]

If you're looking to simplify your bike's wiring, you'd like this product (http://www.webbikeworld.com/r4/dispatch-1/) then.

<img src="http://www.webbikeworld.com/r4/dispatch-1/dispatch-1-with-electronics.jpg" />

oh gawd, kill it, kill it with fire!

[NONONO]

LOL, will it still be a bike after all this?
Headcase, someone call the mad squad.

[imdying]

If you're an electrical engineer that needs another project, I've got something for you. Something not on the market and sellable.

[bogan]

If you're an electrical engineer that needs another project, I've got something for you. Something not on the market and sellable.

wouldn't say I need another project, but I do need money, so if sellable... flick me a pm if you want confidentiality.

[dipshit]

I don't even know what "it" is...???

WTF are we talking about here...???

[bogan]

I don't even know what "it" is...???

WTF are we talking about here...???

Swap the clocks (speedo etc) for an 4.3" LCD screen. This screen acts as the rear view mirror, as well as the clocks it replaces, and a GPS navigator. It also has an alarm function which can sense when the bike is moved, and text/ring a designated number, and provide it's GPS location to that number as well.

The physical 'it' will be a bunch of wiring, screen, camera, and a few other bits.

[imdying]

wouldn't say I need another project, but I do need money, so if sellable... flick me a pm if you want confidentiality.Nah, anyone who builds it will get my money. All I want is a box on the bike, with an input from the indicators, that wireless transmits to my helmet, much like a HARD. When the indicators are on for more than 10 seconds, the light in the helmet flashes. Easy peasy. It's a habit of mine to push the indicator switch when I'm riding along, but you only have to mess that up once to get run over, and ain't nobody perfect but Jesus.

Once you've got that up and running, then it's just a matter of making a multichannel version... then I can plug the RD into it (like the HARD does) or any one of a number of different digital inputs (shift light, or multiples of, neutral light, whatever).

Little wireless chips are only a few bucks now, so the tech is definitely mature enough. The lights only need to be SMDs, so even with a button cell at the helmet end it should go for many happy hours.

Develop that to a near consumer level, flog entire the tech to a helemt company, make the interface standard open and give that to every bike manufacturer freely etc. You'll probably not get rich rich, but you could make a difference in the lives of many motorcyclists.

[Ocean1]

Swap the clocks (speedo etc) for an 4.3" LCD screen.

Two.

One for telemetry and one for coms.

Us old bastards can't see little wee shit.

[rwh]

Nah, anyone who builds it will get my money. All I want is a box on the bike, with an input from the indicators, that wireless transmits to my helmet, much like a HARD. When the indicators are on for more than 10 seconds, the light in the helmet flashes. Easy peasy. It's a habit of mine to push the indicator switch when I'm riding along, but you only have to mess that up once to get run over, and ain't nobody perfect but Jesus.

Once you've got that up and running, then it's just a matter of making a multichannel version... then I can plug the RD into it (like the HARD does) or any one of a number of different digital inputs (shift light, or multiples of, neutral light, whatever).

Little wireless chips are only a few bucks now, so the tech is definitely mature enough. The lights only need to be SMDs, so even with a button cell at the helmet end it should go for many happy hours.

Develop that to a near consumer level, flog entire the tech to a helemt company, make the interface standard open and give that to every bike manufacturer freely etc. You'll probably not get rich rich, but you could make a difference in the lives of many motorcyclists.

Yeah, I've caught myself leaving the indicators on a couple of times recently.

I was thinking I could probably make do with merely having the lights higher up - just above the existing instruments on my naked bike. I was also thinking a clock would be useful, and have already bought some of the bits for that, and figured I could just use some of the segments on the end digits for indicator repeaters.

Then I also want it to flash 'CH' when I've left the choke on - need to add a switch for that.

Richard

[bogan]

Nah, anyone who builds it will get my money. All I want is a box on the bike, with an input from the indicators, that wireless transmits to my helmet, much like a HARD. When the indicators are on for more than 10 seconds, the light in the helmet flashes. Easy peasy. It's a habit of mine to push the indicator switch when I'm riding along, but you only have to mess that up once to get run over, and ain't nobody perfect but Jesus.

Once you've got that up and running, then it's just a matter of making a multichannel version... then I can plug the RD into it (like the HARD does) or any one of a number of different digital inputs (shift light, or multiples of, neutral light, whatever).

Little wireless chips are only a few bucks now, so the tech is definitely mature enough. The lights only need to be SMDs, so even with a button cell at the helmet end it should go for many happy hours.

Develop that to a near consumer level, flog entire the tech to a helemt company, make the interface standard open and give that to every bike manufacturer freely etc. You'll probably not get rich rich, but you could make a difference in the lives of many motorcyclists.

could be interesting, is simple and cheap enough to just give it a shot. Maybe make it flash the light when the indicators are turned on so you don't just forget about em when the button cell does go flat.


Two.

One for telemetry and one for coms.

Us old bastards can't see little wee shit.

yeh, that could be a problem, but I'll see how it goes, if its just for telelmetry a simple digital display could be all thats needed, like the vapor ones.

[imdying]

Happy to spend some time thrashing out the details, if you decide it has learning (or even earning) potential then start a thread :yes:

[Conquiztador]

Yeah, I've caught myself leaving the indicators on a couple of times recently.


??????

My bike is from 1989 and it has two circuits for automatically turning off the indicators:
1. A timer.
2. Distance.
Both circuits also "talk" to each other so that the indicator does not turn off when not moving.

And here I was thinking that this was common place on todays bikes. Took a HD for a test ride a year or so ago. It had it as standard...

[imdying]

My bike is from 1989 and it has two circuits for automatically turning off the indicators:
1. A timer.
2. Distance.And neither of those things are things I want, just a more visible idiot light will be fine. It's as much about building the foundations of the system as it is about indicator dummy lights.

[bogan]

Happy to spend some time thrashing out the details, if you decide it has learning (or even earning) potential then start a thread :yes:

done here :yes: (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/134698-Uber-simple-HUD-reminder-thingy?p=1129987725#post1129987725)

[avgas]

Nah, anyone who builds it will get my money. All I want is a box on the bike, with an input from the indicators, that wireless transmits to my helmet, much like a HARD. When the indicators are on for more than 10 seconds, the light in the helmet flashes. Easy peasy. It's a habit of mine to push the indicator switch when I'm riding along, but you only have to mess that up once to get run over, and ain't nobody perfect but Jesus.

Once you've got that up and running, then it's just a matter of making a multichannel version... then I can plug the RD into it (like the HARD does) or any one of a number of different digital inputs (shift light, or multiples of, neutral light, whatever).

Little wireless chips are only a few bucks now, so the tech is definitely mature enough. The lights only need to be SMDs, so even with a button cell at the helmet end it should go for many happy hours.

Develop that to a near consumer level, flog entire the tech to a helemt company, make the interface standard open and give that to every bike manufacturer freely etc. You'll probably not get rich rich, but you could make a difference in the lives of many motorcyclists.
Actually if you make it so you can wire in any 12v inputs.....I will get customers for you and you could make serious coin.