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outlawtorn
21st June 2005, 13:41
Found this on the web, thought you guys might enjoy a lunchtime read about it. Please bear in mind that I do know it is for the states, but I reckon it's relative.



Why Insurers Like Cruiser Motorcycles: Fewer Thefts and Crashes
A study by Progressive Insurance Companies confirms that cruiser-type motorcycles, especially small ones, are crashed and stolen less frequently than sportbikes.

The single-cylinder Suzuki 650 Savage cruiser, now called the Boulevard S40, was the motorcycle least likely to be stolen and is very rarely crashed, according to a study of claims by insurer Progressive.

We recently received a release from Progressive, the third-largest insurer of vehicles in the U.S and one of the largest motorcycle insurers, concerning a study of loss rates for different types of motorcycles. It looked at claims data from more than two million motorcycle policies. The study confirmed what most of us suspect—that sportbikes get crashed and stolen more frequently than other types and that cruisers are least likely to suffer these events that cost insurers. That's why cruisers can be cheaper to insure even though they often cost more to purchase.

Though the study doesn't look at the reasons, it's easy to speculate why sportbikes have higher loss rates. Sportbikes appeal to younger riders and their orientation makes them more appealing to risk-takers and more likely to be ridden in a risky manner. The fact that sportbikes are more likely to be crashed—and therefore need replacement parts (and that plastic bodywork can be very expensive)—means that there is a bigger market for stolen sportbike parts. Younger riders, especially those inclined to take risks, are probably more likely to be uninsured and therefore more likely to resort to illegal means to repair or replace their damaged rides. There is also evidence that sportbikes are ridden more often and more miles than cruisers, which would also make them more likely to be crashed.

Progressive listed the five bikes with the best and worse records for crash losses and theft losses. Suzuki's 650 Savage (now called the Boulevard S40), Honda 250 and 450 Rebels (grouped together) and BMW R1200C series cruiser made the top five on both of the least-lost lists, with the Savage topping the least-stolen list. Yamaha's Virago line (which included 250, 500, 535, 700, 750, 920, 1000 and 1100cc models over more than two decades, though only the 250 is still being produced) was listed as the least likely to be crashed. Suzuki GSX-R sportbikes topped both the most-crashed and most-stolen lists. Yamaha's YZF series, Kawasaki's Ninjas, and Honda CBRs (all sportbikes except perhaps the Kawasaki 500) also made the top five on both of the high-loss lists. The lists, as compiled by Progressive follow.

CRASHES

Least Likely to be Crashed

1. Yamaha Virago Series
2. Honda Rebel Series
3. Suzuki Savage
4. Harley-Davidson FXR
5. BMW R1200C

Most Likely to be Crashed

1. Suzuki GSX-R Series
2. Kawasaki Ninja Series
3. Suzuki TLR
4. Yamaha YZF Series
5. Honda CBR Series

THEFTS

Least Likely to be Stolen

1. Suzuki Savage
2. BMW R1200C
3. Honda Rebel Series
4. Honda Shadow Series
5. Yamaha V-Star

Most Likely to be Stolen

1. Suzuki GSX-R Series
2. Yamaha YZF Series
3. Honda CBR Series
4. Suzuki Hayabusa
5. Kawasaki Ninja Series


http://motorcyclecruiser.com/newsandupdates/inslosses05/

crashe
21st June 2005, 13:58
hey thats a good bit of reading....
cheers.....

Yep the survey is based in the states,
but I wonder if it woud be the same here in NZ?

I do :love: my Virago.

John
21st June 2005, 15:57
Most Likely to be Crashed

1. Suzuki GSX-R Series
2. Kawasaki Ninja Series
3. Suzuki TLR
4. Yamaha YZF Series
5. Honda CBR Series


Well they have to be good at some thing :rofl:

Its interesting I must say but oh well, I wont be getting a crusier any time soon.

Eurodave
21st June 2005, 16:01
Interesting, although I would have thought Id see Harley Davidson on the most stolen list????

Oakie
21st June 2005, 16:07
When this sort of info comes out it doesn't mean much without knowing how the calculations are done. It's like ... in NZ labradors are responsible for more bites on humans than pit-bulls are. So they're nastier? No. There's just a shit load more labradors out there than pit bulls.
GSX-Rs are crashed more often than a bike like my CB400? True but there are a shitload more GSX-Rs around than CB400s.
For example ... if there are 100 GSX-Rs and they have 20 crashes ... that doesn't make them more likely to crash than a group of 20 CBs that have 10 crashes. To use the naked data ... yes, GSX-Rs have more crashes but by the same token, expressed as a ratio they have less crashes.
There's an old saying something along the lines of 'Statistics will own up to anything if you torture them enough'. To that end, if you were an anti-cruiser fella you could use this data to 'prove' that even bike thieves wouldn't touch a cruiser because they have good taste. (Don't flame me cruiser-dudes ... it's just an example)
If this study was based on all policies and not just those who had crashed ...and then the crash stats were expressed as a percentage of bikes owned rather than just a number of crashes ... then yes, it stacks up and makes interesting reading. But without knowing the base, you can't pin too much on it.
Sorry, I'm not really all that anal as this sounds... it's just analysing statistics is part of my job ... and hey ... I'm at work. :rofl:

Pwalo
21st June 2005, 16:19
When this sort of info comes out it doesn't mean much without knowing how the calculations are done. It's like ... in NZ labradors are responsible for more bites on humans than pit-bulls are. So they're nastier? No. There's just a shit load more labradors out there than pit bulls.
GSX-Rs are crashed more often than a bike like my CB400? True but there are a shitload more GSX-Rs around than CB400s.
For example ... if there are 100 GSX-Rs and they have 20 crashes ... that doesn't make them more likely to crash than a group of 20 CBs that have 10 crashes. To use the naked data ... yes, GSX-Rs have more crashes but by the same token, expressed as a ratio they have less crashes.
There's an old saying something along the lines of 'Statistics will own up to anything if you torture them enough'. To that end, if you were an anti-cruiser fella you could use this data to 'prove' that even bike thieves wouldn't touch a cruiser because they have good taste. (Don't flame me cruiser-dudes ... it's just an example)
If this study was based on all policies and not just those who had crashed ...and then the crash stats were expressed as a percentage of bikes owned rather than just a number of crashes ... then yes, it stacks up and makes interesting reading. But without knowing the base, you can't pin too much on it.
Sorry, I'm not really all that anal as this sounds... it's just analysing statistics is part of my job ... and hey ... I'm at work. :rofl:

Well said that man. Quoting stats without knowing how they were collected is pointless.