Diesel on the road

[Rhys]

Why can't buses get fuel caps that keep the fuel in! :angry:

Just about had an off today! going around a tight corner the bike decide to go a bit side ways because of 5-10 liters of diesel on the corner :facepalm:

I have see the Lower Hutt buses regularly spilling diesel as they go around corners

has any one else had the same problem "partially in lower hutt"

[trailblazer]

have you reported these incidants to the company in question.

[caseye]

Because if you haven't it's other bikers who will pay the price as they come off and get hurt and those accidents will be labled Single vehcile accidents, RIDER at fault!
So please, ring the bus company concerned.
Ring the council and make a serious complaint about the buses not containing their fuel and about the state of the now seriously dangerous corner for motorcyclists in particular.
When you have done that, please make sure to get a reference number from the council so that sometime in the near future it can be followed up.
Either by your good self or by a MAG-NZ Representative of your choice who would gladly do it on your behalf.
We need to get off our arses and do this people, not that I'm giving the OP a hard time about it, just trying to get them and all of you uip to speed.
BITCH, MOAN, WHINGE AND SCREAM.
At the relevant Authorities.
They actually have to follow it up once a complaint has been made.
Make these sorts of things yours and every other motorcyclists business.
Ring/text/Email, Write.
But please don't just tell the forum or your local mates who also ride.
Thinj of the next poor sod on a bike.
Please.

[Rhys]

yes bus company fobbed me off, police (god squad) were very interested, were probably looking forward to making budget with the tickets they could write

[StoneY]

yes bus company fobbed me off, police (god squad) were very interested, were probably looking forward to making budget with the tickets they could write

Methinks you misjudge the 'god squad'
I was a truckie from 98-01 and while various members of the road fraternity think the god squad is all about revenue, I recall following other trucks through the desert road where they sat on the white line as a visual guide due to fatigue, and the 2nd (some cases even third) log book hidden under the seat to manage to get more OT...

Give the cops a break, as you said the bus company blew you off, the god squad in Wellington have at least two motorcyclists in the crew, one with a Motoguzzi who came on the bikeoi

Good post about the diesel, shitty post about the only supportive response you actually received.
And a fact is these guys would have gone to inspect the corner, and had you provided a bus fleet vehicle number would definitely have followed it up with the fleet manager.

FYI the guy with the Guzzi attended a diesel related 'off' on the Taka's on Sunday.... on his own day off because no 'god squads' are particularly active on weekends to keep the freaking budget WE pay for down as low as possible

Judge not the motivations of the local law enforcement, they are there for YOU too matey

[spacemonkey]

has any one else had the same problem "partially in lower hutt"

Yeah but not for about 2 years?
Had a case of road rash after discovering Diesel on the Petone motorway/esplanade roundabout at 6am one day.
Just about got nailed by a car sliding on it as I went to pick up the bike in the aftermath.

[Tink]

Because if you haven't it's other bikers who will pay the price as they come off and get hurt and those accidents will be labled Single vehcile accidents, RIDER at fault!
So please, ring the bus company concerned.
Ring the council and make a serious complaint about the buses not containing their fuel and about the state of the now seriously dangerous corner for motorcyclists in particular.
When you have done that, please make sure to get a reference number from the council so that sometime in the near future it can be followed up.
Either by your good self or by a MAG-NZ Representative of your choice who would gladly do it on your behalf.
We need to get off our arses and do this people, not that I'm giving the OP a hard time about it, just trying to get them and all of you uip to speed.
BITCH, MOAN, WHINGE AND SCREAM.
At the relevant Authorities.
They actually have to follow it up once a complaint has been made.
Make these sorts of things yours and every other motorcyclists business.
Ring/text/Email, Write.
But please don't just tell the forum or your local mates who also ride.
Thinj of the next poor sod on a bike.
Please.

Can we BITCH, MOAN, WHINGE AND SCREAM, about pot holes, gravel after road works etc.

PS The glenbrook road is on fire with lovely 30km signs, if anyone is looking for a good ride, don't ride my way. Oh and plenty of busses use that road!!!!!

[Paul in NZ]

have you reported these incidants to the company in question.

I'd go so far as to suggest to Mr Morgan and his ACC funded crew that perhaps this is an issue they could take a look at. Make it part of a heavy vehicle COF inspection etc. Or maybe make them fit a catch tank etc.

[Genestho]

There's also this..not sure if would be much help in this particular situation... but

Report a Road, 0800 44 44 49 - To report immediate problems, Nationwide - State Highways only

"A system for the reporting of hazards/problems/incidents on state highways is now in operation.

It’s called Transit Road Event Information System (TREIS).

The phone number to report a hazard is free call 0800 4444 49, Nationwide.

Anything requiring immediate attention is phoned through to the relevant highway contractor (the TREIS people have all the relevant boundary details/call out personnel, numbers etc.), as they are the first point of call.

It is followed up with an email.

The person reporting the hazard /incident will be asked several standard questions and a report will later be generated by the “updater organisation e.g. Opus.

The system is not used for longstanding road quality issues e.g. camber or width of shoulder etc. and is only for state highways."

[StoneY]

I'd go so far as to suggest to Mr Morgan and his ACC funded crew that perhaps this is an issue they could take a look at. Make it part of a heavy vehicle COF inspection etc. Or maybe make them fit a catch tank etc.

Well outside the scope of the fund for it to be spent on a private transport companies vehicle fleet dude... and not what I for one as one of 'Morgans Crew' would approve expenditure on, its a private commercial vehicle maintenance issue and one I have addressed before

Maybe we could pay for a leaflett or booklet to be sent to the bus/trucking companies explaining the massive danger this represents to us riders and the wider cage community (they skid on diesel too with less dire consequenses to the driver, still bad for us tho) but someone needs to put the proposal through the yet to be details tender system ;)

BUTwe can sure ask BRONZ to lobby the NZTA to have this included in the COF checks - if its not already in the system and just being poorly enforced.

And I will personally ask the NZTA road safety manager who would be able to check on this for you - good thinking and thanks for bringing it back into my very small attention span

[Katman]

BUTwe can sure ask BRONZ to lobby the NZTA to have this included in the COF checks - if its not already in the system and just being poorly enforced.


I just had my periodic WOF review yesterday and the one thing that the inspector pulled me up on in the inspection process was my failure to check that the bikes fuel cap had an adequate seal.

I imagine it is already a requirement for the COF process that is just poorly enforced.

[StoneY]

I just had my periodic WOF review yesterday and the one thing that the inspector pulled me up on in the inspection process was my failure to check that the bikes fuel cap had an adequate seal.

I imagine it is already a requirement for the COF process that is just poorly enforced.

Thanks for that matey

I will follow up with NZTA and maybe the MTA as well to ask this be reviewd for an enforcement drive at all levels on the grounds its getting so frequent its tragic

[Deano]

The LH bus company have a poor record of diesel spills from their buses and the Council have taken them to task over it.

Please report any sightings of buses spilling diesel to the local Council immediately.

The bus company put in place several control measures to control spills some years ago but it would seem things have slipped.

[BMWST?]

my ONLY off on the road was on diesel spilt by a runciman bus going over the takas like an idiot(the bus not me i was going quite cruisingly that day).About 10 people came of that day and several people reported seeing this bus spill diesel,but because no one actually saw some one come off on the same diesel they just saw spilt.Sometimes the only clue is the smell.....
Murphys law dictated it was my brand new k100rs

[BMWST?]

The LH bus company have a poor record of diesel spills from their buses and the Council have taken them to task over it.

Please report any sightings of buses spilling diesel to the local Council immediately.

The bus company put in place several control measures to control spills some years ago but it would seem things have slipped.

Wellington buses are bad too on occasion.
Someone once suggested the caps themselves are not a 100 percent seal because the tank is actually vented THROUGH the cap!They need to be vented otherwise a vacumn is created as the tank empties...
They need to perhaps modify the tanks with a seperate high mounted vent line and actually get caps that seal

[DEATH_INC.]

Not just welly, I used to go past the manukau bus depot every morning, and admire the diesel trails all over the place, I got sick of ringing the council to complain.....and seemingly nothing was being done about it.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah tehy've been ok up on the hutt hills for, well, about 6 months. Some of their countermeasures were 'not to fill the tanks fully' Gee that was prone to be fool proof. But Council have been keen as Deano says. Pity that the Police don't just wade in with big ticket book & prosecute them scared enough to do something proper.

[Berg]

Yeah tehy've been ok up on the hutt hills for, well, about 6 months. Some of their countermeasures were 'not to fill the tanks fully' Gee that was prone to be fool proof. But Council have been keen as Deano says. Pity that the Police don't just wade in with big ticket book & prosecute them scared enough to do something proper.
Most of the bus companies in Wgtn have felt the financial wrath reguarding leaking diesel and oil but they don't seem to get the hint. Bus drivers just don't seem to give a damn both with maintenance and driving attitude.
Mrs Berg had her off in the South Island due to diesel so a few folks are starting to hammer leaking trucks and buses. Seen a few shockers since I got back to work.

[jellywrestler]

star 555 on your shoe phone, i rang last wed night re diesel on rimutakas and they sorted it

[Berg]

star 555 on your shoe phone, i rang last wed night re diesel on rimutakas and they sorted it

Fulton Hogan and Higgins are good up here. They deal with the reported problems fairly quick. We spoke to people in the top of the South Island and diesel/oil covered roads seem to be the norm there. Went from Nelson to Blenheim in the rain and it was slipprier than riding on ice.

[SMOKEU]

Leaky buses aren't anywhere near as bad all the diesel that gets poured on the roads for the skids.

[StoneY]

Fulton Hogan and Higgins are good up here. They deal with the reported problems fairly quick. We spoke to people in the top of the South Island and diesel/oil covered roads seem to be the norm there. Went from Nelson to Blenheim in the rain and it was slipprier than riding on ice.

I just had to talk with Hogans

A rock on River Road by their 6km long roadworks (widening of the road) has just taken my KTM out

They say there is a subbie working off the Forestry Access track there that's dropping the rocks, and actually quite likely true
They're past using any 'fill' and down to the fine p-metal for road surface leveling.

So, I am passing the car that's just moved left for me, and WHAM my back wheel is 2 to 3 feet in the air and im starting to go sideways

Intuitive counter steering at the front straightened me out and when the wheel came back down I knew instantly I had a blowout..... WRONG

Rim smashed, ripped open (Tyre intact tho) and one very fuckin lucky ginga shaking like a wet leave in a storm at in the breakdown lane......

TSS recovery very prompt
Think I'm still in shock
Amazed I stayed up - think my back wheel may have clipped the car too

Ok anyway, rang Hogans, spoke to site manager, who informs me an illegal subcontractors been using their site access to go into the forestry and its them he believes are dropping the rocks

Points to take from this -
Fulton Hogan have a very pro-active approach to road safety at their sites and are totally approachable should we find issues that endanger us.

Look for rocks, I was real lucky this was my back wheel it caught not the front (still a fuckin insurance claim tho).

And treat River Road with a shitload of respect while they're working there.......
closest call I have ever had with the reaper to date.

[caseye]

My Friend, search those fuckers out and prosecute them to the enth degree.Please.
Had to laugh at the ginga shaking like a leaf thing.
Ya kept her shiny side up mate, well done.
Now go get those fuckers.

[blackdog]

I just had to talk with Hogans

A rock on River Road by their 6km long roadworks (widening of the road) has just taken my KTM out


'tis with baited breath that i await katman's analysis