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Big Dave
25th February 2011, 06:59
It says so in the Sydney papers. 'They can see further'.

http://smh.drive.com.au/scooter-drivers-given-dressing-down-on-failure-to-wear-safety-clothing-20110224-1b75v.html

I do like the tag though.

'Owner Onus.'

nodrog
25th February 2011, 07:19
I would imagine his Virginity is safe as well.

Fanny.

oneofsix
25th February 2011, 07:25
:rofl: They sit higher, really? I think not. True that they can't go as fast as some licra glad bicyclists.

Smifffy
25th February 2011, 07:31
I would imagine his Virginity is safe as well.

Fanny.

Nah, he looks like he'd enjoy a good manly man.

baptist
25th February 2011, 07:45
It says so in the Sydney papers. 'They can see further'.

http://smh.drive.com.au/scooter-drivers-given-dressing-down-on-failure-to-wear-safety-clothing-20110224-1b75v.html

I do like the tag though.

'Owner Onus.'

Intersting article, thanks. My little bikes seat is as high as a scooter so how do they see further? xray vision? :blink:

Question. Are the small wheels on scooters as safe as a bikes larger ones?

avgas
25th February 2011, 08:03
Question. Are the small wheels on scooters as safe as a bikes larger ones?
Nope.
My past experience with owning a few scooters are if you get one with big wheels, it generally stops better.
I notice the new Italjet scooters have wheels twice the size of traditional ones.

Neon
25th February 2011, 11:48
What a douche.

You have to love the sheer stupidity of his arguments:

"You ride your bicycle down the road at 60km/h with no brakes, no engine and [a very narrow] tyre on the road only wearing lycra,"

So?

"Scooters are not motorcycles. They have less power and they are sitting higher, so riders' reaction times are quicker because they can see further ahead."

They have less power...but they go the same speed in town... :blink:

Faster reaction times... :killingme

If anything, scooter's small wheels make them unstable at speed, reduce braking effectiveness (and increase chance of lock-ups).

I'm astounded that anyone would actually go on record trying to defend this.

slofox
25th February 2011, 11:56
What a crock of shit...most unstable form of transport I ever experienced.

Smifffy
25th February 2011, 12:02
Scooters are awesome!

The dude is a twat.

Whynot
25th February 2011, 12:04
Scooters are obviously safer .... why else would they be able to ride around in shorts and jandels while all the people who ride "dangerous" motorcycles are dressed head to toe in leather?

Smifffy
25th February 2011, 12:16
Scooters are obviously safer .... why else would they be able to ride around in shorts and jandels while all the people who ride "dangerous" motorcycles are dressed head to toe in leather?

Yeah, but what does that have to do with the scooter?

The scooter itself contains more intelligence than those riders.

Monday I saw a dud on his scoot, jandals, chinstrap undone on helmet, one hand in pocket of his windbreaker, weaving entirely in his own lane as if he was trying to warm his tyres or something.

Of course he was too cool to take his hand out of his pocket to indicate at the roundabout.

Whynot
25th February 2011, 12:19
Of course he was too cool to take his hand out of his pocket to indicate at the roundabout.

HARD . . . CORE :shit:

avgas
25th February 2011, 13:38
HARD . . . CORE :shit:
I always wondered what WINJA was upto these days.

Didn't think scooters were his style though

Hiflyer
25th February 2011, 14:32
What people don't realise is that with every scooter purchased, you get a free set of invisible armour which stops all injuries.

Whynot
25th February 2011, 14:34
What people don't realise is that with every scooter purchased, you get a free set of invisible armour which stops all injuries.

like this (http://1337g33k.wordpress.com/2008/07/18/get-ready-for-ultra-thin-invisible-body-armor/)

btw that avatar is awesome :)

Zuki lover
25th February 2011, 15:02
bwa ha ha ha ha ha ahha :rofl:

beatswalkin
25th February 2011, 15:55
What people don't realise is that with every scooter purchased, you get a free set of invisible armour which stops all injuries.

Gee, I didn't know that? I've been riding my Vespa for two years wearing my motorcycle jacket, jeans, boots and a helmet I that wasn't required. Ya learn somethin' new every day...

Does the invisible armour also work on sport bikes? I see a lot of jokers riding on the motorways around Jafanui on their road rockets wearing, t-shirts, shorts and jandals. :blink:

Hiflyer
25th February 2011, 16:06
Gee, I didn't know that? I've been riding my Vespa for two years wearing my motorcycle jacket, jeans, boots and a helmet I that wasn't required. Ya learn somethin' new every day...

Does the invisible armour also work on sport bikes? I see a lot of jokers riding on the motorways around Jafanui on their road rockets wearing, t-shirts, shorts and jandals. :blink:

was just makin a jest at the amount of people I see in town wearing only a helmet, obviously it was a sweeping statement.

There are sportsbike riders out there like this guy:


http://demotivate.me/mediafiles/full/420201090629AM_motivator4084057ha9.jpg

but on a serious note, do you agree that you can see further on a scooter and have quicker reaction times when you ride?

steelphoenix
25th February 2011, 21:30
"Scooters are not motorcycles. They have less power and they are sitting higher, so riders' reaction times are quicker because they can see further ahead."

WHUT. :shit::facepalm::angry:

Dear gods, would someone smack that idiot for his use of false statements and incorrect logic?
a) Even 50cc scooters can get to 50kph with ease, so this has no relevance in an urban situation where we all are supposed to go at 50kph.
b) Sitting higher? Unless you have a very low-slung cruiser, or a very crouchy supersport, no. My tiny Scorpio towers above scooters.
c) Riders' reaction times have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with what posture you are in on a bike.

Retard.

/rant

Spearfish
25th February 2011, 21:48
A lot of scoots are being sold still.

Define a scooter though.
They range from 45cc to 800cc

bogan
25th February 2011, 21:56
WHUT. :shit::facepalm::angry:

Dear gods, would someone smack that idiot for his use of false statements and incorrect logic?
a) Even 50cc scooters can get to 50kph with ease, so this has no relevance in an urban situation where we all are supposed to go at 50kph.
b) Sitting higher? Unless you have a very low-slung cruiser, or a very crouchy supersport, no. My tiny Scorpio towers above scooters.
c) Riders' reaction times have ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with what posture you are in on a bike.



and, for higher to mean more vision, you'd already need a massive sight line for the curvature of the earth to come into play (i guess hills would be more a realistic application, but i live in palmy so no worries there!), as well as the object you needed to see being very low.

What one could say by applying similar logic, is for a scooter, the lack of mass, short wheelbase, and high sitting position, mean the angle from the front wheel to center of mass is very steep, this means less braking force can be applied before the vehicle tips, of course the lack of large diameter brakes means less braking force can be effectively applied anyway.

Could be an interesting question, can you do scooter stoppies easier than motorcycle stoppies?

baptist
25th February 2011, 22:00
A lot of scoots are being sold still.

Define a scooter though.
They range from 45cc to 800cc

I tend to think small when :scooter: are mentioned, 50cc to 125cc, and yet I must admit (when I bother thinking about them) some of those big scooters look so comfy... I would probably end up :sleep: riding them, armchairs on (little) wheels :yes:.

swbarnett
26th February 2011, 00:09
and, for higher to mean more vision, you'd already need a massive sight line for the curvature of the earth to come into play
I think he meant in traffic.

But I agree - what a dickhead.

Taz
26th February 2011, 08:49
I think all girls should ride their scooters in only a helmet and lingerie.

Elysium
26th February 2011, 17:37
**looks at guy's scooter, then at my VTR** Holy crap!! I never realised what a death machine I've been riding all this time!!!:shit:

I shall go and trade in the VTR for a scooter right away.

The Pastor
26th February 2011, 17:53
Scooters are not motorcycles.

This guy is onto it. Somebody make him president.

Oh wait what did he say straight after this?



They have less power and they are sitting higher, so riders' reaction times are quicker because they can see further ahead.

Scratch that, hes a moran.

The Pastor
26th February 2011, 17:53
I think all girls should ride their scooters in only a helmet and lingerie.

they dont' need any helmets.

mattian
26th February 2011, 18:02
Define a scooter though.

The "step through" is a bike, designed for women. It was considered very "un-ladylike" for a woman to cock her leg up and over a traditional motorcycle seat.

Spearfish
26th February 2011, 22:22
The "step through" is a bike, designed for women. It was considered very "un-ladylike" for a woman to cock her leg up and over a traditional motorcycle seat.

Not all scoots are step through.