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scott411
28th February 2011, 06:42
wow, shit just got interesting,

Chad nailed Bubba, took them both down, then Bubba tried to block Reed in the last corner, and lost 2 places to reed and Dungey,

Reed put it well on a pulp MX podcast, i have lost 2 championships by less than 4 points

RV got a lucky one, Stewart has now been caught and passed by a couple of riders, the fastest man on the planet is now a 3 way argument,

also interesting that long time L&M (stewarts team) manager Larry Brooks got let go,

NZsarge
28th February 2011, 07:35
Interesting, look forward to watching that, cheers.

Teava
28th February 2011, 12:01
Yeah man watched it live yesterday and man what a race, best race in forever!

But JS7 left the door open man, thats why big James was so pissed! JS7 should have defended the inside line.

The whole Brooks thingy is a little strange but not to surprising at the same time, he does have a history of being a bit of a dick to put it lightly.

Im more interested in the direction that the team will go from now on, will JS7 try and switch the team to Kawi? try to get factory support maybe, lets be honest JS7 looks way better on a Kawi, either that or maybe KTM, now that would be SICK!!

scott411
28th February 2011, 12:12
Im more interested in the direction that the team will go from now on, will JS7 try and switch the team to Kawi? try to get factory support maybe, lets be honest JS7 looks way better on a Kawi, either that or maybe KTM, now that would be SICK!!

i would be suprised to see BUbba back on a kawi, mostly to do with the kawi/monster tie up, and BUbba/red bull,

but Bubba KTM might happen, i think it will come down to a chequebook tho, and i still do not think the 350 would be the right option, Short has said he is lacking power in situations and can not square people up etc,

there are only a few poeple that can ride a 450 to its limits, and James is racing a few of those poeple every week

Teava
28th February 2011, 12:25
i would be suprised to see BUbba back on a kawi, mostly to do with the kawi/monster tie up, and BUbba/red bull,

but Bubba KTM might happen, i think it will come down to a chequebook tho, and i still do not think the 350 would be the right option, Short has said he is lacking power in situations and can not square people up etc,

there are only a few poeple that can ride a 450 to its limits, and James is racing a few of those poeple every week

Yeah i completely forgot about the Red Bull/Monster conflict, i cant see JS7 staying with Yamaha, so i do hope he approaches some other factorys, and with Reb Bull being one of his big sponsors, we could see him on a KTM for sure.

How about the 250's that race was really good as well, but man Bagget needs to man up and make a move!

morg_nz
28th February 2011, 19:55
whats wrong with james yami? he can consistently throw down the quickest qualifying/heats and usually puts down the fastest lap of the main. he seems to be lacking the passion to me - kinda how reed looked last year (when he was sick) - seeing how reed rode last week and this week is how james needs to ride to win. was a bit dissapointing to see them come together - james didnt cover his line and did leave the door open but reed didnt need to take them both out, instead of squaring it up and forcing him wide he just took them both out

scott411
28th February 2011, 19:58
was a bit dissapointing to see them come together - james didnt cover his line and did leave the door open but reed didnt need to take them both out, instead of squaring it up and forcing him wide he just took them both out

i see it a bit different, Reed Parked his bike on Bubba line, (what a block pass is) and then Bubba accellerated into him, i am not saying its Bubba fault, but he could have checked up, and avoided Reed as well,

FlangMasterJ
28th February 2011, 20:50
If you watch the replay there was no way James could have pulled up in time. He hadn't even lifted his head. James' pass on the other hand was pretty civilized. Reed said he slammed into him which was BS.

Anyway, easily one of the greatest races I've seen.

Those CRF's seem to be the bees in the handling department.

cheese
28th February 2011, 21:03
Anyone else getting mega pissed off about the coverage on Sky? Last weeks was not on and they put the lites on at 3am!! I had a moan to them.

FlangMasterJ
28th February 2011, 21:09
Anyone else getting mega pissed off about the coverage on Sky? Last weeks was not on and they put the lites on at 3am!! I had a moan to them.

You still on dial-up cheese?

cheese
28th February 2011, 21:12
Na, I got mysky to record it so I can watch it later. Not really keen on wasting bandwidth to watch it early.

arj127
28th February 2011, 21:33
Anyone else getting mega pissed off about the coverage on Sky? Last weeks was not on and they put the lites on at 3am!! I had a moan to them.

Ha, whats new with Sky, been doing that shit forever!

barty5
28th February 2011, 21:47
Na, I got mysky to record it so I can watch it later. Not really keen on wasting bandwidth to watch it early.

they did play the sx some time in the middle of the day but its still a week behind which is ok just got to remember not to look on here to much for the results.
One thing that gets me pissed off is you dont seam to be able to link it and therefore got try and remember to set each week.

krad_nz
28th February 2011, 22:06
Wow, wicked race. Adrenaline pumping by the end of the thing.

It should really have gone 1 Stewart, 2 Reed, 3 Vilapoto. That last lap was really frustrating.

Hard to know what to think about that Reed/Stewart incident.

I guess the question you have to task yourself is: If the roles were reversed, would Stewart have done the same thing to Reed? I'd say yes. Block pass is a legal pass.

:jerry: Go Reed.

Katoomer
1st March 2011, 11:59
Pity speed didn't follow the Stewart/Reed battle all last lap .Apparently Stewie was so focused on holding Reed up that he let Dungey catch them then got passed as well.
His old man was probably tuning him up for that afterwards.
Those 4 points might bite him later on seeing how close this series is.

Teava
1st March 2011, 13:54
was a bit dissapointing to see them come together - james didnt cover his line and did leave the door open but reed didnt need to take them both out, instead of squaring it up and forcing him wide he just took them both out

There competing for the win, you have to do what you have to do, Reed saw the gap and went for it knowing that either he was going down or the both of them, its good it shows that he is ready to put it all on the line and ride on the edge, its easy to see that now that CR is riding on the edge that he has the speed!

I think that the Yamaha doesnt suit JS style, he is a wide open kinda guy and the only bike that works like that is the Kawi, ask RV i bet you thats what he would say.

morg_nz
1st March 2011, 17:16
There competing for the win, you have to do what you have to do, Reed saw the gap and went for it knowing that either he was going down or the both of them, its good it shows that he is ready to put it all on the line and ride on the edge, its easy to see that now that CR is riding on the edge that he has the speed!

I think that the Yamaha doesnt suit JS style, he is a wide open kinda guy and the only bike that works like that is the Kawi, ask RV i bet you thats what he would say.

see i dont think they were competing for the win riding like that cause both guys knew if the other guy comitted to it that neither would win, i think they just saw red and decided to take each other out. i think its dissapointing because both of them were riding an awsome first 19 laps and noone had anything for them. i'd just had to see another repeat of last year and them take each other out just when the racing is getting good - i think reed has really become a game changer in the championship and he might be the motivation stewart needs to get it done

as for yami/kawi, how are they any different? the last dyno curves i saw for the 450's were so close to identical it wasnt funny, why would the yami be less 'wide open' than the kawi - if i remember rightly the kawi actually had slightly more power bottom end than the others?

Teava
1st March 2011, 21:58
as for yami/kawi, how are they any different? the last dyno curves i saw for the 450's were so close to identical it wasnt funny, why would the yami be less 'wide open' than the kawi - if i remember rightly the kawi actually had slightly more power bottom end than the others?

Nothing to do with power, its the handling of the bike, the kawi frame setup is more suited to that sorta style, im pretty sure that CR actually mentioned last year in the outdoor, that the only way to ride the Kawi was to have a really loose and aggressive style, hang it out basically, and that is the same way that RV and JS ride.

FlangMasterJ
2nd March 2011, 14:52
How about JS on a KTM 150SX??:eek:

Now that would be a sight to see.

scott411
2nd March 2011, 14:56
How about JS on a KTM 150SX??:eek:

Now that would be a sight to see.

since he can not spank the field with a bike the same size anymore, i think the days of 2004 when Bubba was faster on a 125 than the rest of the feild on 250F's are long gone, the truth seems to be that RV, Dungey, Reed are now a hell of a lot closer in speed to Bubba now than ever before, and the racing is way better because of it

but i would pay to watch all of these guys race 125's again

morg_nz
2nd March 2011, 18:54
since he can not spank the field with a bike the same size anymore, i think the days of 2004 when Bubba was faster on a 125 than the rest of the feild on 250F's are long gone, the truth seems to be that RV, Dungey, Reed are now a hell of a lot closer in speed to Bubba now than ever before, and the racing is way better because of it

but i would pay to watch all of these guys race 125's again

they'd definately have to ride smart, couldnt use big power to make things happen

browny
2nd March 2011, 21:17
you guys that see it live. how you do that? sky, as said are a week out or repeat it . but would like to know link or where you see it before everyone else . cheers

Teava
3rd March 2011, 07:43
you guys that see it live. how you do that? sky, as said are a week out or repeat it . but would like to know link or where you see it before everyone else . cheers

If i remember too, i will post the live link here, Daytona this weekend should be good, i just downloaded the track from MX simulator and i currently running 1:34 min lap times but should be able to shave another couple seconds off, so im guessing that in real life they would be running 1:17 min lap time, which equates to 20+ min main event!!

I think Ken Rokzen on the 350 is going to do really good on this one! Very outdoors feel to the track!

scott411
3rd March 2011, 07:49
justin.tv shows live feeds when it is on the TV in the US live, i normally keep up with the pulpmx and racerx tweets,

www.vitalmx.com normally has videos posted in the message board pretty quick,

be interesting to see how the 350's go, Daytona is pretty soft in places and may lack the power,

be interesting to see Reed vs Bubba if they start together, RV should be strong here as well, and Dungey as well, he is the current outdoor champ,

there is a new start apprantly this year, which hopefully will help, the old first corner caused alot of problems

Teava
3rd March 2011, 14:02
be interesting to see how the 350's go, Daytona is pretty soft in places and may lack the power,

be interesting to see Reed vs Bubba if they start together, RV should be strong here as well, and Dungey as well, he is the current outdoor champ,

there is a new start apprantly this year, which hopefully will help, the old first corner caused alot of problems

Yeah for sure, i think the 350 will do ok in the soft dirt, with Roger on there side im pretty sure he will have a few setups in mind.

I hope that we dont see CR and JS in the same heat, hope they save that for the main, as for RV he will be lightning fast for sure, just like last year! As for RD, he needs to work on his starts, if he starts mid pack, he has no chance!

arj127
3rd March 2011, 18:46
i just downloaded the track from MX simulator

Hadn't heard of this software. Whats it like compared to MX VS ATV Reflex? Do you us the keys on the keyboard to control the bike or some sort of controller? What does it cost? Can you play other people online?

Sorry for all the questions, just interested

The latest tracks is a damn good idea

Teava
4th March 2011, 08:53
Hadn't heard of this software. Whats it like compared to MX VS ATV Reflex? Do you us the keys on the keyboard to control the bike or some sort of controller? What does it cost? Can you play other people online?

Sorry for all the questions, just interested

The latest tracks is a damn good idea

The software cost $60 from www.mxsimulator.com and then all the tracks and gear etc are free from then on (you can also get the latest helmets, bikes etc), yes you can race online, in fact they follow the AMA supercross series and have proper races every Friday with qualifying, heats 1 & 2, LCQ and then Main event, they also keep scores and a fully detailed race report.

I play with my PS3 controller.

The game itself takes a long time to get used to, its like Grand Turismo but for dirt bikes, you can adjust the level of oil & thickness in your forks, the spring rate, the number of teeth on your sprocket the list goes on and on! i would suggest playing on Arcade physics to start with and then turn it off, once the arcade physics come off it will take you about 2 weeks before you start to run consistent laps.

PS: i just got my Daytona lap times to 1:28 with a few mistakes :)

arj127
4th March 2011, 15:39
I play with my PS3 controller.

How the heck do you connect a PS3 controller to a PC??

I've been playing mx vs atv reflex a fair bit so getting used to the lean and turn thing

RJM
5th March 2011, 08:40
Wow, just watched it on MySky. Pretty tight racing, I was gutted to see Trey Canard go down. I admire his style and hope he can keep chipping away and stay near the top of the table. The top 5 are all pretty close.

Seems opinions are pretty divided over the JS / CR 'crash'. I'm more a CR fan but I disagreed with that block pass. There absolutely no intention to ride around the corner, he just aimed straight at the blocks to cause the crash. JS senior was certainly throwing his toys after the race. RV must have thought it was Christmas!

To those using Sky, if you can't find it on the guide just visit skytv.co.nz and punch in AMA Supercross. It will come up with all the viewing times for the following week. Only downside is that it never mentions what round it is.

telliman
6th March 2011, 09:26
theres a couple of guys have it up real quick on youtube, normally by monday night or mid day tuesday its up, less fuss than down loads and shit! reed wasnt going for points or the win , he was there to take bubba out for standing him up a couple of corners before hand!