Quads on trail rides with bikes, esp dusty ones

[F5 Dave]

Just idly musing yesterday. Quads & bikes don't always play well together. Some quad drivers block bikes passing & try to race them, which is dangerous for the bikes. In some circumstances a good quad rider will be faster than the average or slower bike rider, like gravel roads etc. But overall when the going gets tight they are slower & impossible to pass without taking big risks.

Come a dusty ride & they kick up abut 4 times the plume.

So this isn't actually a quad bashing thread. There are plenty of quads in the various bike clubs & indeed they seem to feature highly in the organisers of these events & obviously have their uses setting out rides.

But my question is; would it not be a keen idea to set the quads off 20min after the bikes? This way by & large the bikes would make a reasonable fist at getting away & by the 2nd lap everyone is a bit more spread out anyway.

I mean that wouldn't be too much of an imposition surely? I wonder if this has been mooted before? Maybe there would be a backlash, but it would surely benefit both parties? Maybe it's just a dumb idea & I should my mouth the hell up.

I'm an out of town member of at least one club, maybe I'll ask them.

[scott411]

as you put above that the slower riders will hold up the quads, and putting the pressure on the slower riders will not help matters,

i know the quad and 2 wheeler differences are massive, and it has been put to me that they should be on different rides, but nearly every organisers uses them for marshalls anyway,

most trial rides are loop rides anyway, so even if they start 20 min behind it only delays the problem,

i know alot of riders do not, but slower riders should let the faster ones through as soon as they can, it makes it more fun for both parties imo

[Taz]

Have never really had a problem with quads om trail rides. It ain't a race.

[RJM]

Quads have their place on the trails. There were a few very dusty patches on the Waikaretu ride yesterday where I was behind a quad. Just sit back for a minute until on a grassy bit and you can ride past. I was amazed at people trying to pass them in the dust and saw one guy eat the ground pretty good.

Only quad I had a problem with yesterday was just through a gate where it was clearly sign posted 1st gear on road, he came screaming past and roosted me and another guy with decent sized rocks. That's just a ride behaviour thing though whether on 2 or 4 wheels.

[F5 Dave]

yeah the real slow riders will get caught up, but that will happen anyway. Anecdotally I'd bet that the vast majority of riders would lap the course as fast or faster than a quad. Maybe that ain't true, but I'm usually having to pass a lot of quads & there's still riders who pass me at a million miles.

With a 20 min head start that should sort it out I would have thought. Yesterday we did a ride at Tokomaru & it was open & fast. Heck I even got passed by a quad on a grass section when I slowed to sort my drink tube. He'd been following 50m back for about 10 min, but I peeled back in & just had to stop for the dust. Way more than a bike.

Yes I know they are loop rides, but the first loop is always a bit of a fest with people getting stuck on the first decent obstacle. And yes I know these rides aren't put on for my benefit. Just trying to think of a way to stop the clash at the start of a ride.

Yes it isn't a race, but you'd think some chaps are blocking like it is, or passing like it is with a fist of throttle firing rocks at you.

[Jay GTI]

I’ve been to a few events where quads and bikes are present, Epic Events aren’t bike or Quad specific, although they do mark out ‘no quads’ in the expert sections. Overall I haven’t yet had a real problem with encounters, bar one wank stain quad rider who made a special effort to roost people who got too close to him (when he got back to his car there was apparently a line of guys wanting to have a word with him).

If the event is set out in a way that is suitable for both, both should be allowed to ride together. I know some organisers do quad and bike only days, but I assume this is more to do with terrain than agro between bikers. It is harder to get by a quad and harder for them to get by slower bike riders, but it’s all about rider courtesy and being aware of traffic coming up behind. Personally, I never have a problem pulling over and stopping and I have been blocked by 2 wheelers and quads equally… but a lot of the time it’s not intentional, the guy in front hasn’t been aware I’ve been sat on his tail and is just taking the best lines he can. Equally, they aren’t often aware of how much roost they’re throwing up when passing. I’ve been told by a few people the 350 tends to chuck all sorts of crap at anyone behind me (more so than my old RM) so it’s pretty easy for me to accidentally give it too much throttle and spray people I’ve gone past…

[Reckless]

Ah no need to worry the dangerous bloody things always chase the rider down, then roll over them if they have an off!
So sooner or later they give up injured or will actually have to learn to ride a real bike instead of a car with mud tyres and handle bars LOL!!! :bleh:

They always seem to me like an accident waiting to happen to me!!
Then they chase you down and stuff you up even more!!
Should be on a farm with a sheep on the back I reckon!

Oh btw I am still curtious to quads out on rides I just don't see the point quite frankly??

[F5 Dave]

Now now, I did say this wasn't a quad bashing thread. There could be any number of reasons that they can't ride a bike. Obviously not by any rational choice.

[oldguy]

IIm going to Buy a Quad,

I pass just as many two wheelers, (some of them can make it hard to pass) as quads so I can't see any problem,

[Reckless]

Now now, I did say this wasn't a quad bashing thread. There could be any number of reasons that they can't ride a bike. Obviously not by any rational choice.

haha Wasn't quad bashing and as I said I'm as curtious to them out on the trails as I am to any one else but I just can't quite see the point compared to a bike?

Blackbuell rides a road bike and a quad on the dirt! Me and A&R have riden with him before and he's bloody fast on the thing!! Still can't see the point though?

Just my 2c I thought it might get a response though!! haha!

[F5 Dave]

Having had the same Avatar for a number of years I've just noticed that it's strangely pertinent to a thread I'm posting in.


Oldguy, I'm sorry to hear that. I'm hoping I'll be able to ride dirtbikes into my 60s, but maybe I'll have to go to adventure riding that or just roadbikes.

[Blackbuell]

Hey ya guys you have got to HTFU i Ride a quad cause its a lot harder to ride it fast than

a two wheeler ,but hey i ride a two wheeler as well now and some quads hold me up

its a trail ride who gives a shit wait for a clear part & pass its really not that hard !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[sxyrx7]

as a quad rider i have found bad riders on both 2 and 4 wheels

and it can be frustrating if you think its hard to pass a quad on your bike its a lot harder for me to pass a slower quad
but last Sundays ride was more than wide in most parts to easly and safey pass slower rides

the forest trails are more like follow the leader in some parts with almost not room to pass and so i avoide narrow trail rides


the beach ride always has a big turn out of quads and for me is the most enjoyable of the mr motorcycles events

[Jay GTI]

Hey ya guys you have got to HTFU i Ride a quad cause its a lot harder to ride it fast than



Nah admit it, you ride a quad because you were bullied at school...:msn-wink:

[B0000M]

im a quad basher

fucken things. always holding everyone up on the tight sections,

often found blocking the track on "NO QUADS" sections when the operator has not seen / ignored the signs,


back to the dairy farm where they belong!

search the quad bashing thread from a while ago to read more.... lol



but seriously, the ultimate solution is quads saturday, 2 wheels sunday - of course this doubles the effort / time required by organisers

[browny]

quads are a pain in the arse. but if you come across one with a rider who realises this and pulls over for you, its all good,its the ones who think youre behind them cos theyre faster than you, are the annoying ones.no its not a race but it is really. in the wet the quads are in there element and you normally cant catch them, so everyones happy

[Blackbuell]

im a quad basher

fucken things. always holding everyone up on the tight sections,

often found blocking the track on "NO QUADS" sections when the operator has not seen / ignored the signs,


back to the dairy farm where they belong!

search the quad bashing thread from a while ago to read more.... lol



but seriously, the ultimate solution is quads saturday, 2 wheels sunday - of course this doubles the effort / time required by organisers

Just admit it Booom you are a quad basher cause ya a gay Honda Rider Ha Ha

[Blagger]

It's not really a Quad problem, more like an arsehole problem

[B0000M]

It's not really a Quad problem, more like an arsehole problem

yeah, and arseholes tend to ride quads

[B0000M]

Just admit it Booom you are a quad basher cause ya a gay Honda Rider Ha Ha

nothing gay about hondas mate.

honda riders dont:

constantly bleat on about hondas like there is no other brand
buy honda toasters
always wear a honda hat
always wear a honda jacket
always wear a honda shirt
always have a honda tent
have honda logos burnt into their toast
etc etc


ktm owners on the other hand.....

[Reckless]

nothing gay about hondas mate.

honda riders dont:

constantly bleat on about hondas like there is no other brand
buy honda toasters
always wear a honda hat
always wear a honda jacket
always wear a honda shirt
always have a honda tent
have honda logos burnt into their toast
etc etc


ktm owners on the other hand.....

Bloody hell B0000M you forgot the gumboots in your list, c'mon mate get your shit together!

PS I guess I'm fucked aye my last bike was a Honda now I got two Ktms and a ferkin Honda!!

[Jay GTI]

nothing gay about hondas mate.

honda riders dont:

constantly bleat on about hondas like there is no other brand
buy honda toasters
always wear a honda hat
always wear a honda jacket
always wear a honda shirt
always have a honda tent
have honda logos burnt into their toast
etc etc


ktm owners on the other hand.....

Funny you should say that, was flicking through the latest Dirt Action mag last night and spotted a full page advert for Honda Racing hats, jackets, t-shirts and all that other stuff normally left to us KTM riding fart knockers.

At least when I wear my hat, people don't think I roll in a lowered 5 door Civic with underbody neons and chrome 20's...:msn-wink:

[F5 Dave]

Actually a KTM toaster is pretty cool, & I ride a GasGas so you'd think I would be well into poking fun.

Mind you, they haven't gotten around to fixing the rear suspension yet have they? Obviously can't man up to admitting a mistake. I mean even Yamaha fessed up & went back from five valve heads to 4. - 'Course what they really should have done is recanted the 4 stroke engine completely & gone back to making performance engines like they used to.:msn-wink:

[Jay GTI]

Mind you, they haven't gotten around to fixing the rear suspension yet have they? Obviously can't man up to admitting a mistake.

If you're talkinig about KTM and linkage rear ends... you might wanna look at my bike...

But on a serious note around merchandising, I actually think KTM are onto a good thing and Honda are obviously trying to do the same. I went to the British round of the MXGP last year and next to the KTM pit/truck was a stand with loads of merchandise and replica gear. I spent a while hanging around the Yamaha tent/truck doing some Coppins spotting and couldn't understand why you couldn't even get a Coppins replica jersey, thought it was a real missed opportunity...

[NordieBoy]

i know alot of riders do not, but slower riders should let the faster ones through as soon as they can, it makes it more fun for both parties imo

Being a slower rider, I've always been told at rides to just hold my line.

[F5 Dave]

Ahh, so they finally did it. heard they were using them on works bikes, but I don't really read dirt mags anymore, . . . or pay that much attn:rolleyes:

[NordieBoy]

Ahh, so they finally did it. heard they were using them on works bikes, but I don't really read dirt mags anymore, . . . or pay that much attn:rolleyes:

I thought the LC4 series always had linkage?

[scott411]

Being a slower rider, I've always been told at rides to just hold my line.

in a open paddock that is exactly what you are ment to do,

in a tight one line bush section that it is impossible to pass on, moving over when you have a chance is good

[Jay GTI]

It could be argued that it's up to the rider behind to find a safe overtaking opportunity and you are well in your rights to keep riding on your line, but just out of courtesy I always look for a safe place to pull over if there's a faster rider behind me.

[L Rider]

It could be argued that it's up to the rider behind to find a safe overtaking opportunity and you are well in your rights to keep riding on your line, but just out of courtesy I always look for a safe place to pull over if there's a faster rider behind me.

I'm a slow rider & always pull over as soon as i can - even stop if i have to.

If you've held the rider behind up for ages, chances are they are gonna be pist off so that safe overtaking opportunity idea flies out the window as they just want past so will pass where ever.

Racing is a whole different ball game...

[Crisis management]

I don't go on many rides with quads on them but the few I've met have never been any more of a problem than the average bike rider. There will always be slower and faster riders / quads to work around but all you need to do is either pass safely or take a 5 minute breather while they trundle on their way, it's about a fun (usually family) event not a race.
Everyone just needs to ride relaxed and aware and 90% of the problems disappear.

[F5 Dave]

. . .
Everyone just needs to ride relaxed and aware and 90% of the problems disappear.
You could say that about car drivers & bike riders on the road, but of course it won't make a lick of difference.

Passing quads is difficult & can be dangerous with those big Bodacious chariot wheels. In the dust you can miss hidden stuff & there isn't always a clear grass area to pass, if they don't just open up too.

So I'm getting the feeling that everyone either thinks there isn't a problem if we all hold hands & hum, or that my idea is pants & won't work.

[vr4king]

If you hate them so much go ride in "classed" events

Its a trail ride not a race like others have said take a 5min break chill and carry on. Most rides I do there are no prizes for winning

In saying that though almost all of my "serious" crashes on trail rides have involved homo chariots and I always come of second best.

[Jay GTI]

You could say that about car drivers & bike riders on the road, but of course it won't make a lick of difference.

Passing quads is difficult & can be dangerous with those big Bodacious chariot wheels. In the dust you can miss hidden stuff & there isn't always a clear grass area to pass, if they don't just open up too.

So I'm getting the feeling that everyone either thinks there isn't a problem if we all hold hands & hum, or that my idea is pants & won't work.


Well the logistics of the idea would be difficult to manage on a quad and bike event, so yeah it's pretty much group hug at the start of the ride and a quiet understanding that we all love each other really. Just as long as one of those chutney ferret quad riders doesn't try and touch my cock when we're hugging, I'm all good...

[Crisis management]

So I'm getting the feeling that everyone either thinks there isn't a problem if we all hold hands & hum, or that my idea is pants & won't work.

I agree that my idea of everyone behaving themselves is as likely to happen as
B0000M buying a KTM but the reality is that we can only expect reasonable behaviour, not insist on it.

Your idea of a 20 minute gap has a couple of holes in it, at Auckland trail rides there is no massed start, everyone just straggles out as they feel like and as others have said, give it half an hour and they are all mixed up anyway. Maybe some quad only deviations might help but again it is more work for the organisers.

Deep breaths & tolerance required........

[F5 Dave]

If you hate them so much go ride in "classed" events

Its a trail ride not a race like others have said take a 5min break chill and carry on. Most rides I do there are no prizes for winning

In saying that though almost all of my "serious" crashes on trail rides have involved homo chariots and I always come of second best.
Not sure if that is directed at me. I never said I hated them. & I don't want to race. Well actually I do, but that's a tarmac thing for me & I get my competitive urges out there.

Dirt riding for me like most trail riders is non competitive, although many are competitive with their mates & probably should be racing. Some think they are racing & are a liability.

Many of these rides down this way have a few hundred riders, so taking a break for 5 min would only relegate you back the line a bit to have to pass more.

[scott411]

Not sure if that is directed at me. I never said I hated them. & I don't want to race. Well actually I do, but that's a tarmac thing for me & I get my competitive urges out there.

Dirt riding for me like most trail riders is non competitive, although many are competitive with their mates & probably should be racing. Some think they are racing & are a liability.

Many of these rides down this way have a few hundred riders, so taking a break for 5 min would only relegate you back the line a bit to have to pass more.

my rides average 785 so far this year, biggest one so far this season 1115, you get used to passing bikes, and waiting for people,

most of the rides up here now are loops to cater for the people, so waiting 5 min will get you away from groups,

[kezzafish]

It's sometimes quite funny sitting behind quads that don't want to pull over, they bounce all over the show like a '64 caddy. The down side being you end up eating shit too 'cos you can't see the track

[Blagger]

Haha chutney ferret - never heard that one before.

The only time they get up my nose is in the Akatarawas when they come round a blind corner the opposite way piloted by some noob.

I like your idea as I'd rather ride without quads around but the best way I found to avoid them on organised rides is to do the first exploratory circuit slow after starting late then hit it harder towards the end of the day when most of the others (quads included) have slacked off or gone home.
I've been held up by plenty of slow two-wheelers and not being quick myself I do try to get out of the way of others who wanna get past me - what else can ya do?

[kezzafish]

Haha chutney ferret - never heard that one before.

The only time they get up my nose is in the Akatarawas when they come round a blind corner the opposite way piloted by some noob.

I like your idea as I'd rather ride without quads around but the best way I found to avoid them on organised rides is to do the first exploratory circuit slow after starting late then hit it harder towards the end of the day when most of the others (quads included) have slacked off or gone home.
I've been held up by plenty of slow two-wheelers and not being quick myself I do try to get out of the way of others who wanna get past me - what else can ya do?

Plus one on that. they're too f'ing wide for Karapoti and they all wanna go fast on the roads up there 'cos they can't do the tight tracks

[F5 Dave]

yeah I currently hold off leaving to avoid the hordes, but inevitably get stuck behind a queue at the first decent obstacle.

Karapoti is just a nightmare to meet a quad coming the other way, invariably driven by some twat with no helmet, maybe two up & looking backwards to see if his gay mate can see the skids he's just learnt to do & with no concept that you have to be able to stop in 1/2 the visible distance. & it won't be a racing quad, it will be some farm jobbie with lots of metal bars up front.

[merv]

Lol, we talked about this one years ago on this thread http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/5051-Quad-Riders?

I'm not against quads but do find they don't mix well on trail rides for all the reasons mentioned in that thread. Its a bit about the organisers making sure the trail suits as quads just get plain stuck in narrow or steep going.

The trail rides I've been on tend to be a bit free ranging too in that the leader might take a side track just for a looksee and little does the quad rider that tries to follow know that the track runs into trees and he just doesn't fit. Too late once he's stuck blocking everyone else's passage. Or you end up side onto a slope where a two wheeler stays upright and the quad just tips over coz it won't fit on the narrow trail.

To be honest I laugh inside my helmet at their misfortune because they should know the limitations of their own machine.

The best thing as I said in the other thread is stay in front of them.

[oldguy]

Good on you Scott,:niceone: allowing quads, ever notice how all the bitching and moaning comes from riders on MX bikes, they say quads should stay on the farm, then MX bikes should stay on the track.:bleh: Oh yeah trail rides are held on farms, and forestry, so quads have more right to be there.:bleh:
I don't care so long as Im there.

[morg_nz]

quads arent a big problem to me, and i guess like others said no bigger problem than any other rider really, its up to the person riding how much of an annoyance they can be. personally, i enjoy trail rides but many of the ones around my area are over farmland with a lot of open paddock/grass sections - riding fast on grass is something ive never been fond of so i usually just cruise accross but i am constantly gettting roosted by riders going flat tack on the first bit of grass they see. when you get to some tight stuff or a forrest (where i like to ride) they usually dont get over (quad or mx) so you just need to find your own path if you wanna be in front :-) i've had some guys give me some pretty strange looks as i pass them off the side of the track when they'd blasted past me only a couple of minutes before

i dont think you need to let people past straight away, its nice to enjoy your own ride but if you can hear an engine behind you for a few min it might be nice to back it off at the next appropriate section, and if there is a line of 20 people, maybe have a wee break!

[Blackbuell]

you are all a bunch of whinges you moan about quads, i dont really care i enjoy riding them when i take my kids they ride quads as well i gunna do more family trails rides if we hold ya well thats your problem cause its a trail ride not a fricken race so if ya wanna moan dont go to afamily trail ride with quads on it cause there is a good chance i,ll be on it & ya dont want to piss me off !!!!

[morg_nz]

you are all a bunch of whinges you moan about quads, i dont really care i enjoy riding them when i take my kids they ride quads as well i gunna do more family trails rides if we hold ya well thats your problem cause its a trail ride not a fricken race so if ya wanna moan dont go to afamily trail ride with quads on it cause there is a good chance i,ll be on it & ya dont want to piss me off !!!!

I think this guy is one of the riders people may be having problems with?

"ya dont wanna piss me off" :tugger:

sounds exactly like the kind of twat that people have a problem with

[meteor]

you are all a bunch of whinges you moan about quads, i dont really care i enjoy riding them when i take my kids they ride quads as well i gunna do more family trails rides if we hold ya well thats your problem cause its a trail ride not a fricken race so if ya wanna moan dont go to afamily trail ride with quads on it cause there is a good chance i,ll be on it & ya dont want to piss me off !!!!

And there it is folks, the brotherly love of a quad biker! No group hugs for you buster!

[Blackbuell]

I think this guy is one of the riders people may be having problems with?

"ya dont wanna piss me off" :tugger:

sounds exactly like the kind of twat that people have a problem with

See another gay Honda Rider i rest my case HA Ha

[Jay GTI]

if ya wanna moan dont go to afamily trail ride with quads on it cause there is a good chance i,ll be on it & ya dont want to piss me off !!!!

What you going to do if we do piss you off? Waddle over and show us where the bra strap cuts into your manboobs?

[vr4king]

Not sure if that is directed at me. I never said I hated them. & I don't want to race. Well actually I do, but that's a tarmac thing for me & I get my competitive urges out there.

Dirt riding for me like most trail riders is non competitive, although many are competitive with their mates & probably should be racing. Some think they are racing & are a liability.

Many of these rides down this way have a few hundred riders, so taking a break for 5 min would only relegate you back the line a bit to have to pass more.

Not directed at anyone.............I hate them as much as the next 2 wheeler but what ya gonna do?.............Call the "quad busters"?
I enjoy the challange of getting around them.

[Rupe]

Not directed at anyone.............I hate them as much as the next 2 wheeler but what ya gonna do.

burn them on entry? If you didn't do burgers at the rides they prob wouldn't turn up

[flyingcr250]

burn them on entry? If you didn't do burgers at the rides they prob wouldn't turn up

ha ha rupe

you know what the hardest thing about riding a quad is????? telling your parents your gay. :bleh:

[oldguy]

Mr Motorcycles, trail rides
Epic Events, Des Storm, B buster
The sandpit, motorcycle park

all family oriented, and quad friendly, Mr motorcycles also sells quads, don't think Scott would want to shoot him self in the foot by not allowing quads on his trail rides.



can a mod close this thread its gone to shit

[browny]

you are all a bunch of whinges you moan about quads, i dont really care i enjoy riding them when i take my kids they ride quads as well i gunna do more family trails rides if we hold ya well thats your problem cause its a trail ride not a fricken race so if ya wanna moan dont go to afamily trail ride with quads on it cause there is a good chance i,ll be on it & ya dont want to piss me off !!!!

oooh you big meany

[Rupe]

ha ha rupe

you know what the hardest thing about riding a quad is????? telling your parents your gay. :bleh:

Friends dont let friends ride quads

[D3ALN]

Quads on trail rides arnt a bad idea as most users of them are curteous to two wheelers. I quite like riding with a few of the local quad guys and a few other two wheelers do too. Alright there are some f**k wits on them but there are some on 2 wheels too. its just something that we have to put up with untill we get back to carpark and discuss it with them and if that dosnt go well have a fisty cuff. LOL

[Blackbuell]

So Ktm 350 riders are gay now to i see, Ha Ha as i give a Fuck the ktm rider that fell off in front of me cause he was a fuckwit got run over, so bring it on.!!!!!

[green machine]

Have a look at the Video of Waikaretu Thread,there are a couple of winners on 2 wheels setting a bad example.I get pissed with them quads to at times but i don't reckon they should be stopped from doing rides................

[t595]

So Ktm 350 riders are gay now to i see, Ha Ha as i give a Fuck the ktm rider that fell off in front of me cause he was a fuckwit got run over, so bring it on.!!!!!

So does that mean when you or your kids fall off we can run you over without "giving a fuck"?

[kezzafish]

http://www.canaryforum.com/gc/gayquad.html

haaaa haaa haa

[Blackbuell]

http://www.canaryforum.com/gc/gayquad.html

haaaa haaa haa

Hey Kezza that Fricken Great i,ll let ya know when i come out of the closet Haha

[Blackbuell]

So does that mean when you or your kids fall off we can run you over without "giving a fuck"?

Well if you feel that way go for it .

[Chia]

Well if you feel that way go for it .

Well...no...but sounded like u did tho :blink:

[barty5]

Bloody hell B0000M you forgot the gumboots in your list, c'mon mate get your shit together!

PS I guess I'm fucked aye my last bike was a Honda now I got two Ktms and a ferkin Honda!!


And when camping you sleep with your KTM a lost hope really.:bleh:

[Reckless]

And when camping you sleep with your KTM a lost hope really.:bleh:

And there's Facebook pics to prove it! Fitted well in the awning aye!!

Haha I'd even sleep with a yamahaha at the mo Bro!! :rolleyes:

Anything for a cuddle!! :eek:

[F5 Dave]

So Ktm 350 riders are gay now to i see, Ha Ha as i give a Fuck the ktm rider that fell off in front of me cause he was a fuckwit got run over, so bring it on.!!!!!
And there we have it. An inconsiderate twat with no concern for others welfare. As said before it isn't a race but people don't wish to go home injured, although we are all aware it is a risk.

I'd said before that I realised these rides weren't entirely put on for my benefit, but clearly you think as long as you & your kids are ok then everyone else can get fuckd. & on top of that imply violence if you get 'pissed off'. So were you the bully at school?

[F5 Dave]

And guys I did say this wasn't a quad bashing thread. There has also been a lot of Gay bashing on this thread which is not appreciated in this day & age

& hardly fair as its picking on the same people twice.

[IIIRII]

I think the guys that for whatever reason want to ride quads have limited chances to ride, same as us.
I dont mind quads and to be honest Ive been skittled or scared shitless more times by ASSHOLES on 2 wheelers that think the "charity ride" is the final round of the world series and they_have_to_get_to_the_front_no_matter_what...... ......
Passing in really DUMB ASS places because they are wayyyyyy cooler than I am ...
Usually quad guys that know you are behind them pull over and let you pass, just the same as most "normal" riders do ...
nb: yeah yeah, its not very ofter I catch up to anyone

As far as Im concerned as long as they dont make a complete twat of themselves Im pretty laid back about them being on the rides...

oh ps I was passed in "total whiteouts" at dessert storm more times by people with Xray vison on two wheelers than Quads ...
But I must admit when the quads went by it was (park here and wait 5 minutes time) which is why we rode ahead off all the ones we knew were around.

[NordieBoy]

And guys I did say this wasn't a quad bashing thread. There has also been a lot of Gay bashing on this thread which is not appreciated in this day & age

& hardly fair as its picking on the same people twice.

Double dipping as it were.

[L Rider]

oh ps I was passed in "total whiteouts" at dessert storm more times by people with Xray vison on two wheelers than Quads ...
But I must admit when the quads went by it was (park here and wait 5 minutes time) which is why we rode ahead off all the ones we knew were around.

At DS i found it was some pple on 2 wheelers who were the worst with passing. Even had one guy literally bash past me while i was trying to get up & over a wee log on a narrow corner. Luckily there was a tree on my right which i could lean on after being knocked rather than falling over.
The dust from the quads was bad but no worse than when a group of 2 wheelers past me - just have to put up with that as its due to my lack of speed

[F5 Dave]

on my new 300 I am going to re-connect the mini tail/brake light for dusty rides. I get scared in clouds that people are faith riding & I'm not keen on getting rear ended, or double dipped or any other un-natural interface.

[B0000M]

So Ktm 350 riders are gay now to i see, Ha Ha as i give a Fuck the ktm rider that fell off in front of me cause he was a fuckwit got run over, so bring it on.!!!!!

and here's the reason why my mrs wont go on bigger trail rides anymore.... and im sure she wouldnt be the only one to feel this way