Round 4 Castrol 1 Nationals Road Race Champs

[Kiwi Graham]

Nearly upon us 25th -27th March at Hampton Downs http://www.amcc.org.nz/uploads/richassets/TT2011.pdf
It is also the New Zealand TT title round.

Following the success of the last National round held here last year, this year is going to be even bigger and better. The circuit is evolving into an awesome venue and with the AMCC holding several events there now the organisation is as impressive as the circuit

If you intend to race, why wait, get your entries in now the closing date is the 17th March.

Practise begins on Friday afternoon with qualifying and some races Saturday and full schedule of races on Sunday

If you plan on coming to watch the best that New Zealand has to offer dicing with some top international riders flying in from overseas, your in for a weekend of top notch entertainment.

[CHOPPA]

Do we only get an afternoon session for practice??!! We usually only get 3 sessions on a full day with the way the piss around and all the support classes

[White trash]

We usually only get 3 sessions on a full day with the way the piss around and all the support classes

Jeeez you're becoming a real whining bitch recently Chop :eek: Guess what? It's actually a National series for more than just the 12 Superbikes there. Sorry to take up your valuable practice time.

[Devil]

Do we only get an afternoon session for practice??!! We usually only get 3 sessions on a full day with the way the piss around and all the support classes

Haven't you done enough laps around there already? hehe.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Jeeez you're becoming a real whining bitch recently Chop :eek: Guess what? It's actually a National series for more than just the 12 Superbikes there. Sorry to take up your valuable practice time.

Yea well we all know 90% of anyone who is not related to the sport come to watch F1 and F2. The rest are just that - support classes. So we need practice time, the risks are a lot greater for us. What would you know about racing a superbike WT :rolleyes::bleh:


Haven't you done enough laps around there already? hehe.

Taht's not the point though Matt.

[CHOPPA]

Jeeez you're becoming a real whining bitch recently Chop :eek: Guess what? It's actually a National series for more than just the 12 Superbikes there. Sorry to take up your valuable practice time.

Meh :rolleyes: thats what this site is all about isnt it?? Its actually called the New Zealand SUPERBIKE Championship....

If it is a National Series class then they deserve to use practice time, im sure sidecars are a national series? If its not a national series then they should not use up practice time if we only get an afternoon session...

BTW when was the last time you said anything constructive Jimmy?? All I hear is winge winge Im faster then you, I race trikes and want to suck Craigs cock hahahaha :bleh:

[lukemillar]

Yea well we all know 90% of anyone who is not related to the sport come to watch F1 and F2. The rest are just that - support classes. So we need practice time, the risks are a lot greater for us. What would you know about racing a superbike WT :rolleyes::bleh:

Why are the risks greater for F1 + F2?

[White trash]

Meh :rolleyes: thats what this site is all about isnt it?? Its actually called the New Zealand SUPERBIKE Championship....

If it is a National Series class then they deserve to use practice time, im sure sidecars are a national series? If its not a national series then they should not use up practice time if we only get an afternoon session...

BTW when was the last time you said anything constructive Jimmy?? All I hear is winge winge Im faster then you, I race trikes and want to suck Craigs cock hahahaha :bleh:

You know, I can't remember a single time I have said anything constructive, you raise a valid point baldy :D

As for sucking Craigs cock, I haven't since Jeremy told me how salty it tatsed.

And as for racing trikes, well that's just a bald faced (get it?) lie. We circulate. And Drew races, I just hang on and try not to die.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Why are the risks greater for F1 + F2?


Because I don't see a post classic, bucket or sidecar doing 298 clicks and 0-100 in under 3 seconds very often. Rethorical question I presume?

[CHOPPA]

You know, I can't remember a single time I have said anything constructive, you raise a valid point baldy :D

As for sucking Craigs cock, I haven't since Jeremy told me how salty it tatsed.

And as for racing trikes, well that's just a bald faced (get it?) lie. We circulate. And Drew races, I just hang on and try not to die.

Now this is getting better! Now we just need to prove why Ohlins suspension is the best and everything will be back to normal!

Oh and I almost forgot.... I hope you have your plastic sump plug done up tight!!

[White trash]

Oh and I almost forgot.... I hope you have your plastic sump plug done up tight!!

What the fuck is a sump plug?

[Cr1MiNaL]

Ohlins suspension is best? Who said so?

[Deano]

Do we only get an afternoon session for practice??!! We usually only get 3 sessions on a full day with the way the piss around and all the support classes

Do you think there would still be a National Series if there were no support classes ?


Yea well we all know 90% of anyone who is not related to the sport come to watch F1 and F2. The rest are just that - support classes. So we need practice time, the risks are a lot greater for us. What would you know about racing a superbike WT :rolleyes::bleh:


An awful lot of people I know go to watch F3 actually - good close racing, not just the top 5 and every one else making up the numbers. :apumpin:

The risks are a lot greater for you ? Wow - you're my hero !! (Thats debatable anyway - close racing of more than just 12 bikes often involves more incidents)

You SBK guys have got such big egos. Cue Marcus.....

:bleh::bleh::bleh:

[Maido]

Interesting to point out that when I did F3 it was the most important class, then I did 250gp, and that became the most important class, now I am on a 600 which is definately the most important class, one day soon I will probably jump on a superbike (god forbid) and then that will be the most important class. amirite?:niceone:

PS craigs frank isn't salty its the beans that are :msn-wink:

[SWERVE]

A sump plug eh.............. thats that thing that is on the bottom of your engine that has probebly be attacked by an incorrect sized hexagon key or a badly worn cresent.
It is now impossible to undo.......... but have no fear the oil can be extracted by either creating an exit hole in the casings (conrods do a good job) or by using the said plastic bung as a stopper for the sight glass window in the clutch cover. Which will let all the oil out very efficiantely at 13000rpm.
Any more tech questions:bleh:

[lostinflyz]

Because I don't see a post classic, bucket or sidecar doing 298 clicks and 0-100 in under 3 seconds very often. Rethorical question I presume?

buts its still just a normal everyday road bike. Its designed to be safe enough for americans to ride. cause f3 bikes often run experimental parts/setups they should get the most time as there possibly at much greater risks, or 125's cause while you may accelerate from 0 to a billion in several nanoseconds, f1/f2 bikes are no where near as fast in the non drag strip bits. All championship classes should have the same time (as they do) and i bet each ones as hard to setup for as the next.

i think what choppa's having a bitch about is non-championship classes taking up track time, and he has a point.

oh yea and the afternoon practice thing is retarded, why the fuck is that??

[White trash]

oh yea and the afternoon practice thing is retarded, why the fuck is that??

I remeber at last years event at Hampton Downs Syndrome the explanation given was that there was a corporate booking in place until 13:00. We arrived at 09:30 to set up early and spent the day staring at an empty track. Gay.

[CHOPPA]

Do you think there would still be a National Series if there were no support classes ?

:bleh::bleh::bleh:

I always watch F3 but thats not really a support class as its a championship class.

Practice day is not official so to get more racing in SBK + 600 combined, Sidecars, F3 and Maybe 125s Combined depending on numbers then we can get some decent testing done. Clubmens, Motard and Streetstock etc are support classes at this series. Not sure what support classes are running at R4 though

[CHOPPA]

buts its still just a normal everyday road bike. Its designed to be safe enough for americans to ride. cause f3 bikes often run experimental parts/setups they should get the most time as there possibly at much greater risks, or 125's cause while you may accelerate from 0 to a billion in several nanoseconds, f1/f2 bikes are no where near as fast in the non drag strip bits. All championship classes should have the same time (as they do) and i bet each ones as hard to setup for as the next.

i think what choppa's having a bitch about is non-championship classes taking up track time, and he has a point.

oh yea and the afternoon practice thing is retarded, why the fuck is that??

Yup you got it ;) Dont know about the F1 and 2 bikes being slower through the corners then the 125s and F3 :niceone:

[CHOPPA]

I have done a few laps around HDs so its not so bad for me except I havnt been on the bike in a month but for some SI guys they are gonna get F/A time on the track if they dont chop down the program or combine classes

[White trash]

I have done a few laps around HDs so its not so bad for me except I havnt been on the bike in a month but for some SI guys they are gonna get F/A time on the track if they dont chop down the program or combine classes

Combine Sidecars and F1 is my reccomendation. Rubbin's racin' you poofters..........

[Cr1MiNaL]

Combine Sidecars and F1 is my reccomendation. Rubbin's racin' you poofters..........

OMG you talk a lot of trash!

[Deano]

I have done a few laps around HDs

Just a few ?

I reckon I did somewhere around 120+ laps at Levels 1 and 2 of CSBK school.

You have done levels 3 and 4 as well.....your bike would just about know its own way round there by now wouldn't it ?

[White trash]

OMG you talk a lot of trash!

Ya think? <tenchars/>

[k14]

Combine Sidecars and F1 is my reccomendation. Rubbin's racin' you poofters..........
And possibly streetstock too?

[Kiwi Graham]

I always watch F3 but thats not really a support class as its a championship class.

Practice day is not official so to get more racing in SBK + 600 combined, Sidecars, F3 and Maybe 125s Combined depending on numbers then we can get some decent testing done. Clubmens, Motard and Streetstock etc are support classes at this series. Not sure what support classes are running at R4 though

Support classes include Post Classic and Streetstock, no Clubmans or Motards, look at the freekin entry form and all will be revealed.

So no more winging about track time :bleh:

[Kickaha]

Now this is getting better! Now we just need to prove why Ohlins suspension is the best and everything will be back to normal!


Don't watse your time with that Swedish rubbish, get Dukie to sort you out


I remeber at last years event at Hampton Downs Syndrome the explanation given was that there was a corporate booking in place until 13:00. We arrived at 09:30 to set up early and spent the day staring at an empty track. Gay.

I thought it was good actually, fly in that morning, get some peasant to pick us up from the airport and wander out at our leisure


Yup you got it ;) Dont know about the F1 and 2 bikes being slower through the corners then the 125s and F3 :niceone:

Dunno about F3 but I'd just about put money on 125Gp being faster unless it's a fuck off big fast 5-6th gear corner, I've had Superbike riding poofters pass me on the bucket and then hold me up in slow corners


Combine Sidecars and F1 is my reccomendation. Rubbin's racin' you poofters..........

F1 riding homos would be to soft to try that shit

[lostinflyz]

Yup you got it ;) Dont know about the F1 and 2 bikes being slower through the corners then the 125s and F3 :niceone:

haha your a brave man to bet against the laws of physics.

180kg road bike vs 73ish kg factory racer.

[CHOPPA]

haha your a brave man to bet against the laws of physics.

180kg road bike vs 73ish kg factory racer.

I followed Avalon and Jaden on there 125s and I was faster through the corners. It would be interesting to see some data from MotoGp and 125s

[Kickaha]

I followed Avalon and Jaden on there 125s and I was faster through the corners. It would be interesting to see some data from MotoGp and 125s

What kind of corners?, I reckon you'd be faster through the higher speed corners but through the slower corners I'd be very surprised if you'd keep up

[Biggles08]

What kind of corners?, I reckon you'd be faster through the higher speed corners but through the slower corners I'd be very surprised if you'd keep up
They may have faster 'over the ground speed' but because their lines are soooooooo sweeping wide the end result is you arrive at the exit at about the same time (or in Chops case I'd hazzard a guess faster).

[CHOPPA]

What kind of corners?, I reckon you'd be faster through the higher speed corners but through the slower corners I'd be very surprised if you'd keep up

Hampton Downs and most notably the hairpin. Id be keen to race someone on a 125 around a go kart track

[lostinflyz]

Hampton Downs and most notably the hairpin. Id be keen to race someone on a 125 around a go kart track

so what your saying is if i limited your Beemer to 40 odd hp, (shit ill be nice and give you 50) you would go around any track in the known universe faster than a 125????

if so, please provide me with the drugs your smoking???

[Kickaha]

please provide me with the drugs your smoking???

I hope you're going to share

[Taz]

Because I don't see a post classic, bucket or sidecar doing 298 clicks and 0-100 in under 3 seconds very often. Rethorical question I presume?

Well just slow down then. Reduce the risk. It's not a race ya know :lol:

[budda]

I always watch F3 but thats not really a support class as its a championship class.

Practice day is not official so to get more racing in SBK + 600 combined, Sidecars, F3 and Maybe 125s Combined depending on numbers then we can get some decent testing done. Clubmens, Motard and Streetstock etc are support classes at this series. Not sure what support classes are running at R4 though

StreetStock is run on-track with ProLite 250's, which IS a Championship class

[Kickaha]

Why are the risks greater for F1 + F2?

They're not, the Prima Donna riders just like to think they are, makes them feel special or something

[CHOPPA]

so what your saying is if i limited your Beemer to 40 odd hp, (shit ill be nice and give you 50) you would go around any track in the known universe faster than a 125????

if so, please provide me with the drugs your smoking???

lol not a chance but the point was, you were saying in our series the Superbikes are slower then 125 and F3 in the corners

[CHOPPA]

StreetStock is run on-track with ProLite 250's, which IS a Championship class

Yup thats good then, if classes can be combined thats great. Maybe the 600 and superbike practices could be joint together and we can get double the time :devil2:

[slowpoke]

Double post-itis strikes again....d'oh!

[slowpoke]

Yea well we all know 90% of anyone who is not related to the sport come to watch F1 and F2. The rest are just that - support classes. So we need practice time, the risks are a lot greater for us. What would you know about racing a superbike WT :rolleyes::bleh:



Because I don't see a post classic, bucket or sidecar doing 298 clicks and 0-100 in under 3 seconds very often. Rethorical question I presume?

Duuuude, you aren't doing your cause much good. Everyone pays the same money for entry so there's no room for us and them type stuff. You are just alienating the other 90% of the paddock.

Superbikes more dangerous? They may be the fastest but they don't have a dirty great hinge in the middle and twice as much power as when they rolled off the production line 30 years ago.

Nah, as a newcomer to the superbike ranks I'd be opting for a lower profile and just observing the lay of the land. It's a minefeild on and off track so treading lightly is the best policy. Case in point: I think Choppa was more concerned with losing the morning on track than track time to other classes. Here you have gone off on a tangent, pissed off everyone other than a Superbike rider and all over a misunderstanding.

I occasionally wobble out for a race (chase?) on my superbike and I'd rather not be tarred with the brush you are waving around.

[Cr1MiNaL]

Duuuude, you aren't doing your cause much good. Everyone pays the same money for entry so there's no room for us and them type stuff. You are just alienating the other 90% of the paddock.

Superbikes more dangerous? They may be the fastest but they don't have a dirty great hinge in the middle and twice as much power as when they rolled off the production line 30 years ago.

Nah, as a newcomer to the superbike ranks I'd be opting for a lower profile and just observing the lay of the land. It's a minefeild on and off track so treading lightly is the best policy. Case in point: I think Choppa was more concerned with losing the morning on track than track time to other classes. Here you have gone off on a tangent, pissed off everyone other than a Superbike rider and all over a misunderstanding.

I occasionally wobble out for a race (chase?) on my superbike and I'd rather not be tarred with the brush you are waving around.

Dude, next time your out on your bike come over say hi, see first hand how much of a wanker I am!

PS: are any of you fair weather racers going it's pissing down right now !

[Wingnut]

Because I don't see a post classic, bucket or sidecar doing 298 clicks and 0-100 in under 3 seconds very often. Rethorical question I presume?

Where and when on a race track in NZ does 298kms get hit? Just wondering as after watching the speeds from Round one of the WSBK at Phillip Island - on significantly higher speced bikes than what is run in NZ - were in excess of 300 but thats with big horses.......

I will no doubt be corrected :)

[Wingnut]

Interesting to point out that when I did F3 it was the most important class, then I did 250gp, and that became the most important class, now I am on a 600 which is definately the most important class, one day soon I will probably jump on a superbike (god forbid) and then that will be the most important class. amirite?:niceone:

Ahhhhh - a realistic perspective. Its so true.

[White trash]

Where and when on a race track in NZ does 298kms get hit? Just wondering as after watching the speeds from Round one of the WSBK at Phillip Island - on significantly higher speced bikes than what is run in NZ - were in excess of 300 but thats with big horses.......

I will no doubt be corrected :)

Pukekohe back straight's far in excess of 300kay on an NZSBK I'd wager. Luckily, there's no racing there anymore.

[gixerracer]

Dude, next time your out on your bike come over say hi, see first hand how much of a wanker I am!

PS: are any of you fair weather racers going it's pissing down right now !

I can vouch for you Lord Rajer. You are a wanker. :bleh:

[gixerracer]

Where and when on a race track in NZ does 298kms get hit? Just wondering as after watching the speeds from Round one of the WSBK at Phillip Island - on significantly higher speced bikes than what is run in NZ - were in excess of 300 but thats with big horses.......

I will no doubt be corrected :)

Pukekohe now worries at all, We doing 280 give or take 5 kphat the Nationals at invercargill the other day and Puke back straight is looooong with much taller gearing :doctor:

[slowpoke]

Dude, next time your out on your bike come over say hi, see first hand how much of a wanker I am!

PS: are any of you fair weather racers going it's pissing down right now !

Not sayin' you're a wanker, just trying (badly) to give ya some friendly advice. Good luck anyways, good to see another Super on the grid.

[gatch]

Pukekohe now worries at all, We doing 280 give or take 5 kphat the Nationals at invercargill the other day and Puke back straight is looooong with much taller gearing :doctor:

If I can get 210kph on a 50yr old, 50hp 180kg steel fist. Then its not unrealistic for you cunts with your 6,000hp to expect 300..

[kittytamer]

Any club racers stepping up and doing this round at Hampton Downs?
I am thinking about doing it, but I was wondering what the fast guys opinion was on having slower guys out there who they will be lapping? My times there are well within the 115% qualifying limit but I will still be lapped during a 20 lap race for sure.
Your thoughts please....

[White trash]

Any club racers stepping up and doing this round at Hampton Downs?
I am thinking about doing it, but I was wondering what the fast guys opinion was on having slower guys out there who they will be lapping? My times there are well within the 115% qualifying limit but I will still be lapped during a 20 lap race for sure.
Your thoughts please....

Just do it. If you're confident enough in your abilities to be able to qualify, you're able to race. Give it a nudge, you'll be a far better racer for it.

[k14]

Just do it. If you're confident enough in your abilities to be able to qualify, you're able to race. Give it a nudge, you'll be a far better racer for it.
Yep totally agree. Go for it and you won't regret it!

[racerhead]

Just do it. If you're confident enough in your abilities to be able to qualify, you're able to race. Give it a nudge, you'll be a far better racer for it.

Yep just do it. I did it last year and learned more trying to follow Nick, Glen and Midge for a few laps than I did all weekend :niceone:

[jellywrestler]

Do we only get an afternoon session for practice??!! We usually only get 3 sessions on a full day with the way the piss around and all the support classes
Those 'pissing around' support classes pay a substantial amount towards the running of the meeting.
Many of the riders in those 'pissing around' support classes progress to more prominent classes too.

[Shaun]

Any club racers stepping up and doing this round at Hampton Downs?
I am thinking about doing it, but I was wondering what the fast guys opinion was on having slower guys out there who they will be lapping? My times there are well within the 115% qualifying limit but I will still be lapped during a 20 lap race for sure.
Your thoughts please....



Claim your spot dude, every one starts some where mate

[gixerracer]

Any club racers stepping up and doing this round at Hampton Downs?
I am thinking about doing it, but I was wondering what the fast guys opinion was on having slower guys out there who they will be lapping? My times there are well within the 115% qualifying limit but I will still be lapped during a 20 lap race for sure.
Your thoughts please....

You can do et:scooter:

[scracha]

Yea well we all know 90% of anyone who is not related to the sport come to watch F1 and F2. The rest are just that - support classes.

You have no proof of that.



So we need practice time, the risks are a lot greater for us. What would you know about racing a superbike WT

The risks are greater for guys like Craig and Sloan who actually push the bikes near the limits. Just because you can twist the throttle up to 300 clicks on the straight doesn't make it riskier.



I am thinking about doing it, but I was wondering what the fast guys opinion was on having slower guys out there who they will be lapping? My times there are well within the 115% qualifying limit but I will still be lapped during a 20 lap race for sure.
Your thoughts please....

You'll spend twice what you would on a club meeting but you'll get little more in the way of track time. If it's F1 or F2, you probably won't learn that much as the really fast guys are in a different league (i.e. you're lucky if you can follow them through one corner) and lets face it, there's hardly any mid-pack club racers doing the nats to get any insight from. If you get in the way of a couple of faster riders lapping you at the nationals you've a higher chance of getting punted off your bike.

[Pussy]

I can vouch for you Lord Rajer. You are a wanker. :bleh:

Waaah! :)

Look up "humility" in the thesaurus some time, Raj!

[lostinflyz]

You'll spend twice what you would on a club meeting but you'll get little more in the way of track time. If it's F1 or F2, you probably won't learn that much as the really fast guys are in a different league (i.e. you're lucky if you can follow them through one corner) and lets face it, there's hardly any mid-pack club racers doing the nats to get any insight from. If you get in the way of a couple of faster riders lapping you at the nationals you've a higher chance of getting punted off your bike.

BULLSHIT!!!!!

if you do a couple of rounds you'll find stroudy, bugdin, stauffer, smith, or any of the other fast chaps in other classes aren't defying the laws of physics. Their good but its nothing impossible. They just have a good setup (better than most, even if they moan) and do everything right more often than not.

and if guys can lap you, then there going fast enough that getting round a lapper is the least of their concerns. If you just do your thing, their good, smart and confident enough to ride up the inside or outside of you and they'll do all the work. You wont be the first guy any of the properly fast guys have lapped.

you'll learn next to fuck all from a mid-pack club racer. wanna be fast, ride with fast guys. Learn what they do, what makes them fast, most will willingly give you pointers and help, its ur job to listen, learn and practice. if you can't keep within a short shot of the quick guys for a corner or two, you wont be able to qaulify, and its just a question of accepting your not ready, practicing and coming back next year.

[Biggles08]

BULLSHIT!!!!!

if you do a couple of rounds you'll find stroudy, bugdin, stauffer, smith, or any of the other fast chaps in other classes aren't defying the laws of physics. Their good but its nothing impossible. They just have a good setup (better than most, even if they moan) and do everything right more often than not.

and if guys can lap you, then there going fast enough that getting round a lapper is the least of their concerns. If you just do your thing, their good, smart and confident enough to ride up the inside or outside of you and they'll do all the work. You wont be the first guy any of the properly fast guys have lapped.

you'll learn next to fuck all from a mid-pack club racer. wanna be fast, ride with fast guys. Learn what they do, what makes them fast, most will willingly give you pointers and help, its ur job to listen, learn and practice. if you can't keep within a short shot of the quick guys for a corner or two, you wont be able to qaulify, and its just a question of accepting your not ready, practicing and coming back next year.

What he said Chris....do ettttttttttt!!!!

[scracha]

BULLSHIT!!!!!

That's right...shouting will change everything.



if you do a couple of rounds you'll find stroudy, bugdin, stauffer, smith, or any of the other fast chaps in other classes aren't defying the laws of physics.

Perhaps not. They are however, on a different planet to mid-pack club racers.



is the least of their concerns. If you just do your thing, their good, smart and confident enough to ride up the inside or outside of you and they'll do all the work.
Whatever



You wont be the first guy any of the properly fast guys have lapped.
you'll learn next to fuck all from a mid-pack club racer. wanna be fast, ride with fast guys.

If you're a mid-pack club racer, you'll learn a lot from a fast club racer.
If you're a mid-pack club racer, you'll learn next to fuck all from an even moderatly fast nats rider.
Fast club racers...by all means...have a crack at the nats.



shot of the quick guys for a corner or two, you wont be able to qaulify, and its just a question of accepting your not ready, practicing and coming back next year.
So we're basically agreeing. Mid-pack club racers shouldn't waste their time at the Nats. :innocent:

[lostinflyz]

That's right...shouting will change everything.


Perhaps not. They are however, on a different planet to mid-pack club racers.


Whatever


If you're a mid-pack club racer, you'll learn a lot from a fast club racer.
If you're a mid-pack club racer, you'll learn next to fuck all from an even moderatly fast nats rider.
Fast club racers...by all means...have a crack at the nats.


So we're basically agreeing. Mid-pack club racers shouldn't waste their time at the Nats. :innocent:

the top club racers tends to be a nats riders already. looking at the last auckland hampton downs race day, every f1 bike was inside the qaulifying time in the last race, so even a tail end charlie there is nats capable.

anything you can learn from a rider slightly faster rider, you can learn that and more by someone going twice as fast, and you don't learn any of the crap that makes that slighty faster guy a whole lot slower than the properly fast people. being on track and able to see exactly what guys who can ride lap records are doing, where and when, will teach you more than you would learn in an entire seasons club racing. You only have to see how much faster guys go after a few nats meets to realise this.

top level bike riders aren't aliens, there not intergallactic beings who can magically ride bike beyond the laws of gravity, they don't fart horsepower and they don't shit grip. They may have some ability, some don't even have that, but most have worked hard, ridden against the best, learnt from them, spent a few dollars, learnt from their mistakes.....but more than anything else, they all gave it a go to start with.

[Dreama]

Any club racers stepping up and doing this round at Hampton Downs?
I am thinking about doing it, but I was wondering what the fast guys opinion was on having slower guys out there who they will be lapping? My times there are well within the 115% qualifying limit but I will still be lapped during a 20 lap race for sure.
Your thoughts please....

I experienced the humiliation, along with several riders behind me, of being black flagged off the track at Puke several years ago ( when Shawn Giles was racing for the title with Stroudy). I was doing consistent 1.04's (within the 115% by my calc's) and when I got lapped around Jennian Homes corner the officials decided the speed differential was too great, so they proceeded to eject us off the track.
To say I was offended and pissed off is seriously understating the feeling I had, not to mention out of pocket many 100's of $.
It defies the logic behind many of the previous posts put on this subject ..ie .. learning off the fast guys etc and I'm only mentioning this to draw to your attention that it could happen.
Obviously their reasoning was a safety concern but I still bristle when I think about it and have never raced a national since.

Hopefully that won't happen to you or others that qualify and make the effort to front up.

[White trash]

I experienced the humiliation, along with several riders behind me, of being black flagged off the track at Puke several years ago ( when Shawn Giles was racing for the title with Stroudy). I was doing consistent 1.04's (within the 115% by my calc's) and when I got lapped around Jennian Homes corner the officials decided the speed differential was too great, so they proceeded to eject us off the track.
To say I was offended and pissed off is seriously understating the feeling I had, not to mention out of pocket many 100's of $.
It defies the logic behind many of the previous posts put on this subject ..ie .. learning off the fast guys etc and I'm only mentioning this to draw to your attention that it could happen.
Obviously their reasoning was a safety concern but I still bristle when I think about it and have never raced a national since.

Hopefully that won't happen to you or others that qualify and make the effort to front up.

If they were doing 55s (and they can) and you were doing 64s then you were at 116%.

[Billy]

the top club racers tends to be a nats riders already. looking at the last auckland hampton downs race day, every f1 bike was inside the qaulifying time in the last race, so even a tail end charlie there is nats capable.

anything you can learn from a rider slightly faster rider, you can learn that and more by someone going twice as fast, and you don't learn any of the crap that makes that slighty faster guy a whole lot slower than the properly fast people. being on track and able to see exactly what guys who can ride lap records are doing, where and when, will teach you more than you would learn in an entire seasons club racing. You only have to see how much faster guys go after a few nats meets to realise this.

top level bike riders aren't aliens, there not intergallactic beings who can magically ride bike beyond the laws of gravity, they don't fart horsepower and they don't shit grip. They may have some ability, some don't even have that, but most have worked hard, ridden against the best, learnt from them, spent a few dollars, learnt from their mistakes.....but more than anything else, they all gave it a go to start with.

Well put,
Put simply everybody has 2 arms and 2 legs and its how you apply yourself that will determine the results,A top club racer as pointed out will generally be a national rider as well,BUT at a national meeting he will push about 15% harder and make a pass he wouldnt bother with at a club day,Its called commitment!

Quite frankly most club racers arent really even racing,Theyre just riding their bikes as fast as think they can.

Anybody that thinks Joe public goes to race meetings simply to watch the Superbikes and 600s needs to pull their head out of the dark place it lives,Joe public wants too see people taking risks and pushing to the very edge and those people only live in the front 5 in each class,Everybody else is a support rider filling the grid and making up the numbers and people outside of their personal friends wouldnt even know they were there

[kel]

What a load of horse piss


Well put,
Put simply everybody has 2 arms and 2 legs and its how you apply yourself that will determine the results,A top club racer as pointed out will generally be a national rider as well,BUT at a national meeting he will push about 15% harder and make a pass he wouldnt bother with at a club day,Its called commitment!

Quite frankly most club racers arent really even racing,Theyre just riding their bikes as fast as think they can.

Anybody that thinks Joe public goes to race meetings simply to watch the Superbikes and 600s needs to pull their head out of the dark place it lives,Joe public wants too see people taking risks and pushing to the very edge and those people only live in the front 5 in each class,Everybody else is a support rider filling the grid and making up the numbers and people outside of their personal friends wouldnt even know they were there

[Billy]

What a load of horse piss

Excellent reply,You must have put alot of thought and have a huge amount of experience to come up with such a profound statement??

[jellywrestler]

top level bike riders aren't aliens, there not intergallactic beings who can magically ride bike beyond the laws of gravity

somebody once told me Craig Shirriffs was from Uranus...

[gixerracer]

If they were doing 55s (and they can) and you were doing 64s then you were at 116%.

No motorcycle has ever done 55s at puke yo fucken stain

[jellywrestler]

Well put,
Put simply everybody has 2 arms and 2 legs
Sorry to correct you Billy but Siamese (or conjoined twins,well most of them) have more than that.
That's why they invented pantyhose, so Siamese twins could rob banks too, by the way

[Deano]

If they were doing 55s (and they can) and you were doing 64s then you were at 116%.

What a cunt !!

[kel]

Excellent reply,You must have put alot of thought and have a huge amount of experience to come up with such a profound statement??

I guess not, clearly I don't share your profound intellect.

[Deano]

No motorcycle has ever done 55s at puke yo fucken stain

Jamie McNair did a 54 no shit man !

[Kickaha]

Jamie McNair did a 54 no shit man !

You're full of shit, he never stayed on a bike long enough to finish a full lap

[Str8 Jacket]

You're full of shit, he never stayed on a bike long enough to finish a full lap

Yes, but he was on the track for 54 seconds...

ps Deano, get off the phone to Malcolm, I am trying to listen to the TV!!

[Nonbeliever]

Anybody that thinks Joe public goes to race meetings simply to watch the Superbikes and 600s needs to pull their head out of the dark place it lives,

:tugger:

75% of the drawcard for Joe pubic is the superbike and 600 classes.

thats just the way it is Billyboy

[Billy]

I guess not, clearly I don't share your profound intellect.
Your words,Not mine

[Mental Trousers]

Jamie McNair did a 54 no shit man !

Don't you mean Dukie?

[Kickaha]

:tugger:

75% of the drawcard for Joe pubic is the superbike and 600 classes.

thats just the way it is Billyboy

I realise the 600 and 1000cc riding poofters would like to think that but I doubt there's anyway of proving it one way or the other

[Billy]

:tugger:

75% of the drawcard for Joe pubic is the superbike and 600 classes.

thats just the way it is Billyboy

Where did you get those figures from?

[Cr1MiNaL]

I realise the 600 and 1000cc riding poofters would like to think that but I doubt there's anyway of proving it one way or the other

Yes there is ... start a poll and end this once and for all.

[gixerracer]

somebody once told me Craig Shirriffs was from Uranus...

Not he is for your anus not from Uranus

[Kickaha]

Where did you get those figures from?

Probably out of his arse


Yes there is ... start a poll and end this once and for all.

You are obviously fairly dumb if you think a poll will prove anything, that makes you a prime candidate for a 1000

[Cr1MiNaL]

You are obviously fairly dumb if you think a poll will prove anything, that makes you a prime candidate for a 1000

Nothing will ever be enough will it? Marketing firms must be fools to invest millions to get the opinion of their target audience. What a stupid idea. My bad. As you were side car driver.

[scracha]

Nothing will ever be enough will it? Marketing firms must be fools to invest millions to get the opinion of their target audience. What a stupid idea. My bad. As you were side car driver.

The majority of marketing "professionals" I've dealt with are fools . There's the odd genius in there carrying the rest.

Anyhoo...I think Kikha was implying that

KB != NZ motorcyclists
KB != potential target audience for motorcycle racing

[Kickaha]

Nothing will ever be enough will it? Marketing firms must be fools to invest millions to get the opinion of their target audience.

There's a big difference between a market firm investing millions and running a poll on here


As you were side car driver.

Driver?:killingme

[Deano]

Well this banter is sure entertaining, but probably doing feck all for racing as a whole. Perhaps Kickaha should "drive" Raj around for a few laps....LOL Driving Aunt Daisy LOL...

I feel the need for brevity given recent events. :cool:

[Kickaha]

Perhaps Kickaha should "drive" Raj around for a few laps....LOL Driving Aunt Daisy LOL...

Even at the speed I would go he'd shit his pants

What was the real topic again?

[Deano]

Where did you get those figures from?

Yeah like he can back that up !! Pfffttt

[budda]

Your words,Not mine

Geeez Billy, a battle of wits against unarmed opposition is hardly fair !

[Billy]

Geeez Billy, a battle of wits against unarmed opposition is hardly fair !

What!No arms either,Didnt realise he was physically disabled as well

[gixerracer]

What!No arms either,Didnt realise he was physically disabled as well

At least he is not mentally disabled like you:spanking:

[jellywrestler]

:tugger:

75% of the drawcard for Joe pubic is the superbike and 600 classes.


Quoting Statistics eh?
9 out of ten people enjoy pack rape too -- but that doesn't mean it's right does it?

[malcy25]

:tugger:

75% of the drawcard for Joe pubic is the superbike and 600 classes.

thats just the way it is Billyboy

75% of F all is still 75% of F all.

Outside of the street meetings (which are a whole different situation), which events are the largest attended road race events in the country and do they even have 600's and Superbikes?

[Kickaha]

which events are the largest attended road race events in the country and do they even have 600's and Superbikes?

I'd say the Puke classic fest and BEARs Sound of Thunder

[Tony.OK]

I propose that we scrap all classes that people think aren't the best.........................................there ya go.......you're all fucked, everyone will vote each other out and then you'd all have nothing to moan about :baby:

So who has contacted MNZ and requested that next year the Nationals be called NZ Motorcycle racing Nationals instead of NZ SBK Road Race Championship ?


F1 / SBK / Formula Paeroa etc
F2 / S/sport / 600's
F3 / Superlite

Ya really think ppl care what the diff names are when they go to watch a meeting?

Great way to teach racers to aim high this thread, shit I'm normally called Mr Negative but damn, some of you jokers beat me hands down.


WHY CAN"T EVERYONE JUST GET ALONG?
Someone should be thinking about the children! :rolleyes:

[steveyb]

I propose that we scrap all classes that people think aren't the best.........................................there ya go.......you're all fucked, everyone will vote each other out and then you'd all have nothing to moan about :baby:

So who has contacted MNZ and requested that next year the Nationals be called NZ Motorcycle racing Nationals instead of NZ SBK Road Race Championship ?


F1 / SBK / Formula Paeroa etc
F2 / S/sport / 600's
F3 / Superlite

Ya really think ppl care what the diff names are when they go to watch a meeting?

Great way to teach racers to aim high this thread, shit I'm normally called Mr Negative but damn, some of you jokers beat me hands down.


WHY CAN"T EVERYONE JUST GET ALONG?
Someone should be thinking about the children! :rolleyes:


Not sure what side of the question you were on here 'So who has contacted MNZ and requested that next year the Nationals be called NZ Motorcycle racing Nationals instead of NZ SBK Road Race Championship ?' but just in case;


Hmmm....
World Superbike Championship
Australian Superbike Championship
All Japan Superbike Championship
British Superbike Championship
Canadian Superbike Championship
AMA Superbike Championship
New Zealand Superbike Championship


Motorcycle Racing Nationals???? What motorcycles? MX, ATV, Speedway??????? No brand possible in that.

The following is why we should NOT have anything to do with 'Road Race' in the name of Superbike Champs:

New Zealand Road Race....:
http://www.treklivestrongu23.com/2011/01/vink-crowned-new-zealand-road-race-champion/
www.cyclingnews.com/races/new-zealand-road-championships...road-race/results
www.coolrunning.co.nz/calendar/
www.targa.co.nz/
etc etc etc

What bloody century did NZ Road Racing Nationals [National Championship that should be] or Motorcycle Racing Nationals for that matter, come from???

Pretend I am Joe Public:
"NZ Road Racing Nationals? What sport was that honey? More bloody cycling?"
"NZ Motorcycle Racing Nationals? Cool motorbikes, but what? Not really interested in that dirt stuff. Oh, there is rugby on too, OK lets see that then."
"NZ Superbike Champs? Great, some motorbikes, sort of like those Biaggi and Haga guys isn't it!!!"

The 3 B's of successl: Branding, Branding and, Branding.

You whingers will not hear anyone not racing a superbike at BSB complaining that it is called British Superbike Championship and not British ACU National Road Racing Champs, or something equally as lame arse. And I wonder which championship runs factory level WSBK bikes in it and has live TV coverage? NZ Road Racing Nationals or BSB?
(And don't just go on about the money and market size and all that, cos there is heaps more to it than that).

Pull your heads out of your arses and think about the bigger picture and not just your own little worlds.

[Tony.OK]

Not sure what side of the question you were on here 'So who has contacted MNZ and requested that next year the Nationals be called NZ Motorcycle racing Nationals instead of NZ SBK Road Race Championship ?' but just in case;


Hmmm....
World Superbike Championship
Australian Superbike Championship
All Japan Superbike Championship
British Superbike Championship
Canadian Superbike Championship
AMA Superbike Championship
New Zealand Superbike Championship


Motorcycle Racing Nationals???? What motorcycles? MX, ATV, Speedway??????? No brand possible in that.

The following is why we should NOT have anything to do with 'Road Race' in the name of Superbike Champs:

New Zealand Road Race....:
http://www.treklivestrongu23.com/2011/01/vink-crowned-new-zealand-road-race-champion/
www.cyclingnews.com/races/new-zealand-road-championships...road-race/results
www.coolrunning.co.nz/calendar/
www.targa.co.nz/
etc etc etc

What bloody century did NZ Road Racing Nationals [National Championship that should be] or Motorcycle Racing Nationals for that matter, come from???

Pretend I am Joe Public:
"NZ Road Racing Nationals? What sport was that honey? More bloody cycling?"
"NZ Motorcycle Racing Nationals? Cool motorbikes, but what? Not really interested in that dirt stuff. Oh, there is rugby on too, OK lets see that then."
"NZ Superbike Champs? Great, some motorbikes, sort of like those Biaggi and Haga guys isn't it!!!"

The 3 B's of successl: Branding, Branding and, Branding.

You whingers will not hear anyone not racing a superbike at BSB complaining that it is called British Superbike Championship and not British ACU National Road Racing Champs, or something equally as lame arse. And I wonder which championship runs factory level WSBK bikes in it and has live TV coverage? NZ Road Racing Nationals or BSB?
(And don't just go on about the money and market size and all that, cos there is heaps more to it than that).

Pull your heads out of your arses and think about the bigger picture and not just your own little worlds.

Same side Mr b, and well put I might add.

My post was meant to be a bit tongue in cheek, just getting fed up with all the knockers (and not the squishy kind) on here.

I'm sure all are passionate about their own chosen classes but surely the end goal nowadays is to get people interested in the premier classes, yes I said it, the 600's and 1000's, and I'll also include 125's as the top classes. I mean why else do people try and get youngn's overseas to say the Redbull rookies etc? If they succeed then what, umm MotoGP, WSBK? Nah lets keep 'em in F3 instead!

Yes yes I know this is only little 'ole NZ and the money ain't there, but without the encouragement to aim higher why would someone have the passion to go for gold? Where would the likes of Slight etc be if they thought what most here did?

Ok rant over.......................back out to my bikeless shed :doh:

[malcy25]

I'd say the Puke classic fest and BEARs Sound of Thunder

Correct on the former.

Next question: Do MotoGP and world Superbike events also have support classes?

[Cr1MiNaL]

Thought I should clarify for what its worth, what I was saying was only in jest, I didn't really mean anything seriously. As a new racer I think I am way out of my depth to add anything constructive to this thread. This is obviously a touchy subject for many, I had no idea.

Peace out Raj.

[gixerracer]

Thought I should clarify for what its worth, what I was saying was only in jest, I didn't really mean anything seriously. As a new racer I think I am way out of my depth to add anything constructive to this thread. This is obviously a touchy subject for many, I had no idea.

Peace out Raj.

Dont worrie Raj there mostly fuken IDIOT'S on here:clap:

[Kickaha]

Correct on the former.

You said events, not event



Thought I should clarify for what its worth, what I was saying was only in jest, I didn't really mean anything seriously. As a new racer I think I am way out of my depth to add anything constructive to this thread. This is obviously a touchy subject for many, I had no idea.

Peace out Raj.

Typical SBK riding poofter bails as soon as it gets a bit hard, you been taking lessons from Craig?

[Kiwi Graham]

Thought I should clarify for what its worth, what I was saying was only in jest, I didn't really mean anything seriously. As a new racer I think I am way out of my depth to add anything constructive to this thread. This is obviously a touchy subject for many, I had no idea.

Peace out Raj.

No worries buddy, the girls on here are happy to swing bags at any opportunity :baby:
At least your out there doing it instead of wanking on about it.

So girls who's signed up for Superstock 1000? :scooter:

[Billy]

Same side Mr b, and well put I might add.

My post was meant to be a bit tongue in cheek, just getting fed up with all the knockers (and not the squishy kind) on here.

I'm sure all are passionate about their own chosen classes but surely the end goal nowadays is to get people interested in the premier classes, yes I said it, the 600's and 1000's, and I'll also include 125's as the top classes. I mean why else do people try and get youngn's overseas to say the Redbull rookies etc? If they succeed then what, umm MotoGP, WSBK? Nah lets keep 'em in F3 instead!

Yes yes I know this is only little 'ole NZ and the money ain't there, but without the encouragement to aim higher why would someone have the passion to go for gold? Where would the likes of Slight etc be if they thought what most here did?

Ok rant over.......................back out to my bikeless shed :doh:

FFS Tony,Get over youself will ya,NOWHERE in this thread up until post 96,(Yes thats right your post) did anybody suggest the National championship needed a new name or that Superbikes and 600s aren't the premier classes,All thats been stated is that not EVERYBODY goes to race meetings SIMPLY TO WATCH SUPERBIKES and 600s,

Where did Aaron Slight get his inspiration from?Same place Simon Crafar,Chris Haldane,Andrew Stroud,Tony Rees,Brian Bernard,Eddie Kattenberg,Johnny Hepburn.Buce Anstey.250 Production,Yes thats right an entry level feeder class NOTSuperbikes,In fact when those guys started racing,Superbikes didnt even exist either in NZ or the WSBK series.

Until the North Island clubs get their shit together and start running an extensive junior program and including them at the big meetings,As has been proven to be a success at Motorcycling Canterbury through firstly Peter Jones and his helpers and now Jenni Gibson,Along with Grant Ramage at South Canterbury and Steve Winteringham in Southland.

Sure we're not ever gonna see the heady days of 250 proddy again,But the stepping stones are there and just need to be utilised (Streetstock 150=Prolite 250=Protwins=600=Superbikes).Up until now NOBODY or club in the North Island have shown anywhere near 10% of the commitment required to make a difference,Its either buckets or glorified club series that don't even run Nationally recognised classes.

All of the up and coming young riders in the 2 600 classes at National level(bar Midge Smart) have had some involvement with the MCC junior program

[Mental Trousers]

So girls who's signed up for Superstock 1000? :scooter:

Just because it's you I'll do you a really, really special deal. You supply the bike and I'll ride it!!! Couldn't get any better than that eh.

[malcy25]

You said events, not event

No sweat Kick, nothing pointed about my response sorry.

Ultimately where I'm driving at for the wider audience (and in reponse to the original point of the thread is that):
1) Even at World Championship level, support classes are seen.
2) in the big scheme of things right now as good as the racing is, there is simple proof the crowds are not being drawn by 600's or 1000's as they are with some other forms of road racing.

As you were.

[Tony.OK]

FFS Tony,Get over youself will ya,NOWHERE in this thread up until post 96,(Yes thats right your post) did anybody suggest the National championship needed a new name



No need to get over myself...........maybe my sarcasm didn't come across in text when I wrote the name change idea.

Never mind, I'll look forward to heading to Manfeild to watch all riders doin their thing. :calm:

[Kiwi Graham]

.Up until now NOBODY or club in the North Island have shown anywhere near 10% of the commitment required to make a difference,Its either buckets or glorified club series that don't even run Nationally recognised classes.

All of the up and coming young riders in the 2 600 classes at National level(bar Midge Smart) have had some involvement with the MCC junior program


A little unfair that Billy, AMCC have been supporting our young guns for some time now mate both financially, with free track time, fund raising and in other ways.

[Billy]

A little unfair that Billy, AMCC have been supporting our young guns for some time now mate both financially, with free track time, fund raising and in other ways.

Thanks for proving me right KG,What you have mentioned above doesn't even cover 5% of whats required to run a serious Junior program,

Throwing tracktime and money at what I can only presume would be the likes of Avalon Biddle and Daniel Mettam does NOT constitute a junior recruitment and training program,Outside of the effort John Connor puts in at Mt Wellington theres very little done by the Auckland club in this area,In fact they chose not too run streetstock for a number of years cause the bikes were too slow and the races took to long!!

It doesnt help that when theres an incident at a club meeting and time starts too run out(Generally caused by the untrained dont have a clue what theyre doing 30/40 somethings in 600ss)that the streetstock class is the first too be cut,Take note,In the south island the junior streetstock get as much as twice the tracktime anybody else does and it shows in the talent coming out of there.

Classic point,Theres NOBODY running in streetstock/Prolite in the North Island I cant beat and yet at Ruapuna last month I struggled to a best finish of 12th place and 6 secs off the pace.In conversation with Jock Woodley on the Sunday night I had too admit I hadnt ever ridden an RG so hard and had as much of it on the deck to finish so far down the feild.

To sum up,If you really want roadracing to have a better profile,Then bringing in new blood at a young age and teaching them racecraft/preparation and commitment is the only way forward,Bouncy castles/gourmet burgers and umbrella girls wont,Without a spectacle theres nothing worth watching.

Not getting at you KG,I know you do your bit.

[wharfy]

To sum up,If you really want roadracing to have a better profile,Then bringing in new blood at a young age and teaching them racecraft/preparation and commitment is the only way forward,Bouncy castles/gourmet burgers and umbrella girls wont,Without a spectacle theres nothing worth watching.



Yep............

[scracha]

It doesnt help that when theres an incident at a club meeting and time starts too run out(Generally caused by the untrained dont have a clue what theyre doing 30/40 somethings in 600ss)that the streetstock class is the first too be cut,Take
Cough..... :baby:



To sum up,If you really want roadracing to have a better profile,Then bringing in new blood at a young age and teaching them racecraft/preparation and commitment is the only way forward,Bouncy castles/gourmet burgers and umbrella girls wont,Without a spectacle theres nothing worth watching.

Not getting at you KG,I know you do your bit.

Fuckin primo post Billy.

[Kiwi Graham]

Thanks for proving me right KG,What you have mentioned above doesn't even cover 5% of whats required to run a serious Junior program,

Throwing tracktime and money at what I can only presume would be the likes of Avalon Biddle and Daniel Mettam does NOT constitute a junior recruitment and training program,Outside of the effort John Connor puts in at Mt Wellington theres very little done by the Auckland club in this area,In fact they chose not too run streetstock for a number of years cause the bikes were too slow and the races took to long!!

It doesnt help that when theres an incident at a club meeting and time starts too run out(Generally caused by the untrained dont have a clue what theyre doing 30/40 somethings in 600ss)that the streetstock class is the first too be cut,Take note,In the south island the junior streetstock get as much as twice the tracktime anybody else does and it shows in the talent coming out of there.

Classic point,Theres NOBODY running in streetstock/Prolite in the North Island I cant beat and yet at Ruapuna last month I struggled to a best finish of 12th place and 6 secs off the pace.In conversation with Jock Woodley on the Sunday night I had too admit I hadnt ever ridden an RG so hard and had as much of it on the deck to finish so far down the feild.

To sum up,If you really want roadracing to have a better profile,Then bringing in new blood at a young age and teaching them racecraft/preparation and commitment is the only way forward,Bouncy castles/gourmet burgers and umbrella girls wont,Without a spectacle theres nothing worth watching.

Not getting at you KG,I know you do your bit.

There are other names to add to the list but I take your point.
Its not all about turning up and going for a skid. Several of us take the time to 'educate' the new breed in all the behind the scenes stuff and getting there hands dirty, your right Billy it is often the youngsters that get bumped as a result of delays, all these things need to change and the efforts our South Island clubs are doing is proving its worth. John does an awesome job at encouraging young talent we should carry on the initiative.

[SWERVE]

Cmon Billy.......... say what ya really feel....dont hold back.........................:rolleyes:
You hit the nail with that one...... superb post:cool:

[gixerracer]

Thanks for proving me right KG,What you have mentioned above doesn't even cover 5% of whats required to run a serious Junior program,

Throwing tracktime and money at what I can only presume would be the likes of Avalon Biddle and Daniel Mettam does NOT constitute a junior recruitment and training program,Outside of the effort John Connor puts in at Mt Wellington theres very little done by the Auckland club in this area,In fact they chose not too run streetstock for a number of years cause the bikes were too slow and the races took to long!!

It doesnt help that when theres an incident at a club meeting and time starts too run out(Generally caused by the untrained dont have a clue what theyre doing 30/40 somethings in 600ss)that the streetstock class is the first too be cut,Take note,In the south island the junior streetstock get as much as twice the tracktime anybody else does and it shows in the talent coming out of there.

Classic point,Theres NOBODY running in streetstock/Prolite in the North Island I cant beat and yet at Ruapuna last month I struggled to a best finish of 12th place and 6 secs off the pace.In conversation with Jock Woodley on the Sunday night I had too admit I hadnt ever ridden an RG so hard and had as much of it on the deck to finish so far down the feild.

To sum up,If you really want roadracing to have a better profile,Then bringing in new blood at a young age and teaching them racecraft/preparation and commitment is the only way forward,Bouncy castles/gourmet burgers and umbrella girls wont,Without a spectacle theres nothing worth watching.

Not getting at you KG,I know you do your bit.

6 seconds off, Man you suck more than I do:spanking:

[Kickaha]

6 seconds off, Man you suck more than I do:spanking:

No one sucks that badly

[Mental Trousers]

No one sucks that badly

I hear Hoover have approached Craig to be their mascot, he sucks that much.

[steveyb]

Same side Mr b, and well put I might add.

My post was meant to be a bit tongue in cheek, just getting fed up with all the knockers (and not the squishy kind) on here.

I'm sure all are passionate about their own chosen classes but surely the end goal nowadays is to get people interested in the premier classes, yes I said it, the 600's and 1000's, and I'll also include 125's as the top classes. I mean why else do people try and get youngn's overseas to say the Redbull rookies etc? If they succeed then what, umm MotoGP, WSBK? Nah lets keep 'em in F3 instead!

Yes yes I know this is only little 'ole NZ and the money ain't there, but without the encouragement to aim higher why would someone have the passion to go for gold? Where would the likes of Slight etc be if they thought what most here did?

Ok rant over.......................back out to my bikeless shed :doh:

Honda RS125 looking for new home.... hint hint hint....

Sweet!:first:

[CHOPPA]

No one sucks that badly

I heard Craig is switching to MX after a nearly winning a clubday in his first race back??

[Billy]

6 seconds off, Man you suck more than I do:spanking:

Yeah I know,Lucky I dont give a fuck aye!!!

Still atleast I dont have to worry about me eyebrows being shaved off,Aye mr Im scared of the wet Shirriffs LOL

[Kickaha]

I heard Craig is switching to MX after a nearly winning a clubday in his first race back??

I wouldn't have thought he'd fit on a JR50?

[Billy]

I hear Hoover have approached Craig to be their mascot, he sucks that much.

That rumor is unfounded,In fact hes already signed a 30 second contract with Zundapp as a crash test dummy rumored to be worth as much as $3.75 (cash) or 3 packs of Charlie Sheens used condoms

[gixerracer]

Yeah I know,Lucky I dont give a fuck aye!!!

Still atleast I dont have to worry about me eyebrows being shaved off,Aye mr Im scared of the wet Shirriffs LOL

Im not scared of the rain, the rain is scared of me.
It has only happened twice in history to myself and Chuck fucken Noris

[Rcktfsh]

Is there a timetable out yet ?

[Kiwi Graham]

Is there a timetable out yet ?

RRC meeting tonight, should be something out next week.

[Kiwi Graham]

A heads up;

Entries officially closed this evening.........late entries are encouraged there is still plenty of space on the grids for all classes!! There will be no on the day entries accepted.

Make sure your race numbers meet MNZ requirements, everyone is getting a bit pissed off with not being able to identify riders from commentators to marshalls to race officials.

Hampton Downs now has 'Race Radio', bring along your portable radio and tune into 102.5 FM for commentary.

Open practise starts on Friday at 12 mid day and will be run in amalgamated classes ie:- superbike/superstock 1000 & supersport/superstock 600, superlight & 650 together etc.

We are now inviting entries for a Clubmans support class, this can include motards and bears $120 = 3 races.

The time table will be confirmed with the acceptance notifications but there will be no surprises, scrutineering from 7am (belly pans off) with riders briefing at 08:50 and so the day will role out.

[dean boy]

A heads up;

Entries officially closed this evening.........late entries are encouraged there is still plenty of space on the grids for all classes!! There will be no on the day entries accepted.

Make sure your race numbers meet MNZ requirements, everyone is getting a bit pissed off with not being able to identify riders from commentators to marshalls to race officials.

Hampton Downs now has 'Race Radio', bring along your portable radio and tune into 102.5 FM for commentary.
Open practise starts on Friday at 12 mid day and will be run in amalgamated classes ie:- superbike/superstock 1000 & supersport/superstock 600, superlight & 650 together etc.

We are now inviting entries for a Clubmans support class, this can include motards and bears $120 = 3 races.

The time table will be confirmed with the acceptance notifications but there will be no surprises, scrutineering from 7am (belly pans off) with riders briefing at 08:50 and so the day will role out.

Very short notice for your clubman, bears and motard club riders, i hope they feel the love

[Biggles08]

A heads up;

Entries officially closed this evening.........late entries are encouraged there is still plenty of space on the grids for all classes!! There will be no on the day entries accepted.

Make sure your race numbers meet MNZ requirements, everyone is getting a bit pissed off with not being able to identify riders from commentators to marshalls to race officials.

Hampton Downs now has 'Race Radio', bring along your portable radio and tune into 102.5 FM for commentary.

Open practise starts on Friday at 12 mid day and will be run in amalgamated classes ie:- superbike/superstock 1000 & supersport/superstock 600, superlight & 650 together etc.

We are now inviting entries for a Clubmans support class, this can include motards and bears $120 = 3 races.

The time table will be confirmed with the acceptance notifications but there will be no surprises, scrutineering from 7am (belly pans off) with riders briefing at 08:50 and so the day will role out.

Biggles sux KG balls (opps....this isn't the tag entry spot is it.....doh)

[Kiwi Graham]

Very short notice for your clubman, bears and motard club riders, i hope they feel the love

Yep your right, but its there now due to unforeseen reasons, just need six bikes to make a class.

Biggles sux KG balls (opps....this isn't the tag entry spot is it.....doh)

Wait until the end of the day mate, they'll be nice and spicy by then :gob:

[CHOPPA]

Weather is looking good!

http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland

[Kiwi Graham]

Weather is looking good!

http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland

Yeah, Kinda guessed you'd be hoping for rain :whistle:

[Mental Trousers]

Weather is looking good!

http://www.metservice.com/towns-cities/auckland

... good for what?? It's saying rain on Sunday.

[MaxCannon]

Anyone know how much tickets are ?

Last year was $20
I heard a rumour that this year was $35

[Burrt Badger]

$20.00 PER DAY OR $35.00 FOR A WEEKEND PASS. $35.00 FOR FAMILY PASS.

Come and support NZ Road Racing and the Auckland Club.

[Kiwi Graham]

Well done Andrew on your 9th championship and well done all you quick guys, how you can maintain that pace for 20 laps I’ll never know. My puny little body was screaming after just 10!!
I was sweating like a paedophile outside a play ground, hit the brakes for the hairpin on one occasion and splashed the ‘inside’ of my visor with sweat!

Unfortunatly I had no one to race with  so just circulated at a ‘very’ modest pace keeping my eye out for the freight train to come by, and it did…..twice!! Hey I didn’t even come last in the first race!
Hopefully more will show up at Manfield next week. Its freekin hard trying to concentrate on riding all on your lonesome lap after lap with know one to push you or chase you, spent my time listening for the tell tale engine harmony of some one on your ass and a look out for blue flags. Absolutely no point in getting in their way.
I thought my bike was reasonably quick until I saw how fast those extra ponies in the Superbike engines make them go! Oh and there is the talent thing too of course.

Despite the on again off again weather and the on again off again first race it was a awesome experience working in the Yamaha pit with Brian Bernard, Dan Stauffer, Tony Rees, Jaden Hassen and Mike Reid. All working together, with some friendly banter and heaps of advice.

Thanks to all the marshalls for staying out in some pretty crap weather you did a fantastic job and were kept busy on Saturday!

Hey I’m the New Zealand Superstock 1000 TT Champion and got pole position for the class ha ha. The trophies tell it all eh!

Come on guys buy a litre bike and come racing, the pain is worth it :yes:

[Mental Trousers]

Awesome Graham. I was watching at turn 2 cheering for you. Good on ya for giving it a go.

When things weren't slippery as shit it looked like everyone was giving it their best. There was some pretty major surgery going on around the place after Saturday claimed quite a few bikes, but it was great to see your bike looking so well presented and coming through the weekend without destroying it. Loved the placement of your race number too.

At Paeroa I came dead last (due to a problem with 1st gear on the start line) but it was such a buzz to be there and I imagine it was the same for you over the weekend. Great fun just being there, giving it a go and sharing the track with racers I'd only watched and admired.

Congrats on the title!!!

[gixerracer]

Well done Andrew on your 9th championship and well done all you quick guys, how you can maintain that pace for 20 laps I’ll never know. My puny little body was screaming after just 10!!
I was sweating like a paedophile outside a play ground, hit the brakes for the hairpin on one occasion and splashed the ‘inside’ of my visor with sweat!

Unfortunatly I had no one to race with  so just circulated at a ‘very’ modest pace keeping my eye out for the freight train to come by, and it did…..twice!! Hey I didn’t even come last in the first race!
Hopefully more will show up at Manfield next week. Its freekin hard trying to concentrate on riding all on your lonesome lap after lap with know one to push you or chase you, spent my time listening for the tell tale engine harmony of some one on your ass and a look out for blue flags. Absolutely no point in getting in their way.
I thought my bike was reasonably quick until I saw how fast those extra ponies in the Superbike engines make them go! Oh and there is the talent thing too of course.

Despite the on again off again weather and the on again off again first race it was a awesome experience working in the Yamaha pit with Brian Bernard, Dan Stauffer, Tony Rees, Jaden Hassen and Mike Reid. All working together, with some friendly banter and heaps of advice.

Thanks to all the marshalls for staying out in some pretty crap weather you did a fantastic job and were kept busy on Saturday!

Hey I’m the New Zealand Superstock 1000 TT Champion and got pole position for the class ha ha. The trophies tell it all eh!

Come on guys buy a litre bike and come racing, the pain is worth it :yes:

Good on you man for getting out there, and yea big ups to all the marshalls etc for working all weekend in that crap weather

[Mental Trousers]

Good on you man for getting out there, and yea big ups to all the marshalls etc for working all weekend in that crap weather

At about lap 5 of the TT race I was thinking looks like I'll be making a "fark you were charging Craig" type post ....... :facepalm:

What's with starting from pit lane?? You and Nick get caught around the back of the pit sheds or something?? Was it something to do with not being on the start grid when they flagged everyone in??

[gixerracer]

At about lap 5 of the TT race I was thinking looks like I'll be making a "fark you were charging Craig" type post ....... :facepalm:

What's with starting from pit lane?? You and Nick get caught around the back of the pit sheds or something?? Was it something to do with not being on the start grid when they flagged everyone in??

Yea Nick has been hassling me for ages to see my package so we were behind the toilets, because he is kind of UGLY it was taking longer than usual if ya no wot I mean:innocent:
That 2nd race was going to get interesting for sure but I had some problems with my front brakes locking on so needed to pit before it sent me face first down the road. Bit of a bugger as it was the first time we I had been on a dry track and the guess we made on the settings was working well in the early stages at least but after we went back out the rear tyre fell to bits after about 9 laps so I pulled out AGAIN

[Mental Trousers]

Shame. You looked to be getting on with business (in the TT race, not with Nick).

[jellywrestler]

Yea Nick has been hassling me for ages to see my package so we were behind the toilets, because he is kind of UGLY it was taking longer than usual if ya no wot I mean:innocent:
That 2nd race was going to get interesting for sure but I had some problems with my front brakes locking on so needed to pit before it sent me face first down the road. Bit of a bugger as it was the first time we I had been on a dry track and the guess we made on the settings was working well in the early stages at least but after we went back out the rear tyre fell to bits after about 9 laps so I pulled out AGAIN
Shit happens, at least ya didn't do any landscaping this weekend

[Tony.OK]

Enjoyed watching online............had a chuckle when "Moir" I think went off in T1, Spyda commentating "Oops.....he's done a Craig Shirriffs!"

Heres hoping for a nice fine weekend for all you guys at Manfeild, expecting to see some more great racing!

[jellywrestler]

Enjoyed watching online............had a chuckle when "Moir" I think went off in T1, Spyda commentating "Oops.....he's done a Craig Shirriffs!"

Yep I recall saying that, Technically it was a 'third' of a Craig Shirriffs though!

[Tony.OK]

Yep I recall saying that, Technically it was a 'third' of a Craig Shirriffs though!

Ha.............liked the weather forecast too "there's some shit coming!"

Top job and pass on many thanks to all involved in getting the live coverage out there for us to watch from home :2thumbsup

[Ronin]

Quote of the day had to be the Barrel full of Tits.

We were in tears.