Log in

View Full Version : Racing just don't get any better than this! Road or dirt!



Reckless
4th March 2011, 09:52
Thought I snap up a separate thread so maybe some of the roadies might get to appreciate the bash and crash the off road boys seeing as how I have a foot in both camps!

Here enjoy the last lap!!

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Da51fs9hd88" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

I'm not really a Chad reed fan but I seem to think he did a reasonably standard block pass on Jams Stwewart and he came down in him off the top of the berm when he could have stayed high or crossed him!

Dunno what do ya think??

Na just watched it again Reed left him nowhere to go?? Far out did ya see that pass JS did on Reed! Talk about being caught in a a Yamaha sandwich!!

Far out they are hard at it this series good stuff!!

green machine
4th March 2011, 17:18
Haha "a little CATSHIRE grin on your face.............fail

bogan
4th March 2011, 17:23
I dunno, reed came across pretty quick, dunno if stewart would have seen him before commiting to that line. Bit of argy bargy on both parts probably. Good final lap! Think we may see better this year in motoGP though...

green machine
4th March 2011, 17:38
Reed didn't even try to turn, went straight up the side of the berm,it was payback for Stewarts pass

vr4king
4th March 2011, 19:14
Reeds got some HUGE balls to do that considering if he gets injured his whole team suffers BIG TIME

Good on him bout time someone pulled bubba of his throne

Ill be buying two two gear to support him

barty5
4th March 2011, 20:58
Reed didn't even try to turn, went straight up the side of the berm,it was payback for Stewarts pass

Yeah he did he was about to reapply the power as he was hit another 1/2 a second he would have been clear was a good move js should have taken the line cr used if he really wanted to defend to position and made cr are go wide taking the long way round.

green machine
4th March 2011, 21:04
Yeah he did he was about to reapply the power as he was hit another 1/2 a second he would have been clear was a good move js should have taken the line cr used if he really wanted to defend to position and made cr are go wide taking the long way round.

Aw come on Barty,i just watched it over and over,there was never enough room there to pass........as he cut the corner too much,he only ended up facing the right way after Stewart hit him

Shorty_925
4th March 2011, 21:16
Theres a head-on camera shot and if js7 couldnt see reed well then theres a problem for him. Couldt he not see Jason Thomas directly infornt of him the week before?

Theres been alot of passes similar in all classes, but none have gone as far because other riders have avoided a crash, but if only js7 looked up and saw what was there he could have delayed it slightly and cut under reed. Then again if reed wasnt on the outside of blose he it may not have had to come to that as well.

I think reed did what he thought he had to do(js7 thought he had to jump on reeds bike to stop him), and no one is injuried, roll on next week.

Anyone know if Daytona will be on sky?

barty5
4th March 2011, 22:38
Aw come on Barty,i just watched it over and over,there was never enough room there to pass........as he cut the corner too much,he only ended up facing the right way after Stewart hit him

well they do say its a contact sport and contact was made in fact maybe JS& should get some contacts them he might see where he is leavin the door wide open and whats in front of him.

White trash
5th March 2011, 06:15
Reed's interview on Moto-X Online was interesting, blaming himself for leaving the big gap in the pass JS threw on him first. Then saying there was nothing malicious or underhanded in his intention during his on Stewart and that he'd expect James to try the same pass on a last lap.

scott411
5th March 2011, 06:51
the difference between Reeds pass and Bubba's is the fact that after Bubba cut off the line, Reed got off the gas, where as when Reed cut off Bubba line Bubba kept it pinned and the contact happened,

and to go that wide on the last lap is pretty stupid, anyone that would not try a move like Reed did will never win a SX main

White trash
5th March 2011, 06:58
Yeah but does Stewart feel the same way? Can't find an interview for him regarding that race.

CHOPPA
5th March 2011, 07:29
the difference between Reeds pass and Bubba's is the fact that after Bubba cut off the line, Reed got off the gas, where as when Reed cut off Bubba line Bubba kept it pinned and the contact happened,

and to go that wide on the last lap is pretty stupid, anyone that would not try a move like Reed did will never win a SX main

Yeah you could clearly see in the slowmo, Chad was in the way and Stewart just nailed it from 2 meters back.

Great race!!!

That Guy
5th March 2011, 08:15
I love the commentators line after Stewart passes Reed and a couple or corners later gets close: "He missed him!":devil2:

Crasherfromwayback
5th March 2011, 08:23
Thought I snap up a separate thread so maybe some of the roadies might get to appreciate the bash and crash the off road boys seeing as how I have a foot in both camps!


THIS is the best Supercross race I've ever seen!
<object width="640" height="390"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/y3O4_se6_T4&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/y3O4_se6_T4&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></embed></object>

Rupe
5th March 2011, 08:47
I love the commentators line after Stewart passes Reed and a couple or corners later gets close: "He missed him!":devil2:

yeah that made me laugh too. They're dicks, worked out well though RV2 got some more points hopefully he wins. good to see RD and TC in top 5 too.

barty5
5th March 2011, 09:26
THIS is the best Supercross race I've ever seen!
<object width="640" height="390"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/y3O4_se6_T4&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowScriptAccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/y3O4_se6_T4&hl=en_US&feature=player_embedded&version=3" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" allowScriptAccess="always" width="640" height="390"></embed></object>

Shit glad they re thought the 30second board person big fat dude with man boobs just isnt right was hardly quick enough to clear the track.

Crasherfromwayback
5th March 2011, 09:33
Shit glad they re thought the 30second board person big fat dude with man boobs just isnt right was hardly quick enough to clear the track.

Hahahaha...damn straight!

Reckless
5th March 2011, 11:26
THIS is the best Supercross race I've ever seen!

Great watch Crasher thanks!
Like the commentator " there goin hog wild out there" LOL!!

Good to hear the Brraaaaap again to!!

Jay GTI
5th March 2011, 15:12
Yeah great to watch the old smokers in action again... but jesus they look a handful compared to modern SX machinery...

barty5
5th March 2011, 21:35
Yeah but does Stewart feel the same way? Can't find an interview for him regarding that race.

http://js7.com/2011/02/atlanta-sx-post-race-video/

he doesn't say a lot about it.

telliman
6th March 2011, 09:09
the difference between Reeds pass and Bubba's is the fact that after Bubba cut off the line, Reed got off the gas, where as when Reed cut off Bubba line Bubba kept it pinned and the contact happened,

and to go that wide on the last lap is pretty stupid, anyone that would not try a move like Reed did will never win a SX main

you really think so, the way i see it js7 never took 22 line , he stuck it in there and turned it on the inside of reed, wat reed did was a straight out ride up the inside and basicly stop in front of js7, thats not a block pass thats just a block! if reed had left another foot of room on the outside js would have smoked him down that next section and on to the win, if anything i think we;ve seen the end of js7 playing with these guys, the only race we;ll be watching now is all the chumps racing for second!

cheese
6th March 2011, 17:27
Thats just racing, its a block pass and its all what its all about. I used to hate reed and think Stewart was all right, but I'm slowly turning that around. Stewart is a bit of an arrogant cock.

oldguy
6th March 2011, 19:29
Stewart is a bit of an arrogant cock.Ive always thought that of Reed, but I have to admit when it come to racing he has the skills.

Reckless
7th March 2011, 01:47
Ive always thought that of Reed, but I have to admit when it come to racing he has the skills.

Agreed oldguy!! He does have skills and seems to be the only one that can keep up with JS on that track o the night!
Also Agree I don't like Reed very much, the interviews I've seen he has been a bit of a cock!

Well my many years race track experience Piting and racing (not in MX though) tell me with the Bubba move he pushed it to and past the limits just leaving enough space/contact/force for everyone to stay upright! He used his team mate and everything else in his box of tricks but only rode into it hard enough for it to have a good chance of it being successful!

After it I think Reed saw red and simply got desperate his move left no tolerance for success for either of them and hoped the toss of the coin would go his way! A lot more desperate in my view!

Actually Bubbas reaction of "I was silly to go that wide and leave the door open for a move like that" instead of a tantrum over it ups him in my view! Respect to him for that!

Anyway just my take on it I see it more as telliman does!

scott411
7th March 2011, 06:42
you really think so, the way i see it js7 never took 22 line , he stuck it in there and turned it on the inside of reed, wat reed did was a straight out ride up the inside and basicly stop in front of js7, thats not a block pass thats just a block! if reed had left another foot of room on the outside js would have smoked him down that next section and on to the win, if anything i think we;ve seen the end of js7 playing with these guys, the only race we;ll be watching now is all the chumps racing for second!


that is a block pass, a block pass means you block the other riders line, yes Reeds was much more aggressvie than sstewarts, but if Reed had kept on the gas we would have hit stewart, as his bike was in the line reed would have taken,

if Reed had left a foot room on the outside, he would have not put a block pass,

it was not a blantent take out, those are when you hit the guy before he turns, or while he is doing it, Stewart may not have seen reed come up the inside, but he should have,

Reckless
7th March 2011, 10:38
that is a block pass, a block pass means you block the other riders line, yes Reeds was much more aggressive than Stewarts, but if Reed had kept on the gas we would have hit Stewart, as his bike was in the line reed would have taken,

if Reed had left a foot room on the outside, he would have not put a block pass,

it was not a blatant take out, those are when you hit the guy before he turns, or while he is doing it, Stewart may not have seen Reed come up the inside, but he should have,

Thanks for putting that up Scotty!
Bit of a learning curve for us that have never raced top MX. I guess we thought that sorta pass leaving no room what so ever was a bit on the nose but if its all part of the cut and thrust of MX then alls fair in love and war I suppose. :innocent:
I guess the fine line is not taking yourself out when you do it.

Of all of us on here you should know. Thanks for the input! :yes:

eelracing
7th March 2011, 11:52
After it I think Reed saw red and simply got desperate his move left no tolerance for success for either of them and hoped the toss of the coin would go his way! A lot more desperate in my view!
!

We all know these two hate each others guts and don't it make for better racing when they finally get a chance to mix it up?Something I reckon is not encouraged by the design of indoor supercross tracks...sure the skills shown is epic to watch but after a holeshot or block pass the actual battle is usually over and everyone watches the leader disappear.

Read a great quote by 1979 500 champ Graham Noyce recently "The modern tracks are shit,not like the old natural ones.Once you've learned to jump,thats it.These days the riders spend so long in the air it ruins the racing.You can't do fuck all in the air other than clean your goggles and fiddle with your knob".

Crasherfromwayback
7th March 2011, 12:03
Read a great quote by 1979 500 champ Graham Noyce recently "The modern tracks are shit,not like the old natural ones.Once you've learned to jump,thats it.These days the riders spend so long in the air it ruins the racing.You can't do fuck all in the air other than clean your goggles and fiddle with your knob".

Classic! I must say...I've always loved doing TT's off road, and VMX tracks remind me of that too. Nothing beats a road race track in the dirt for good high speed fun!

scott411
7th March 2011, 12:31
Read a great quote by 1979 500 champ Graham Noyce recently "The modern tracks are shit,not like the old natural ones.Once you've learned to jump,thats it.These days the riders spend so long in the air it ruins the racing.You can't do fuck all in the air other than clean your goggles and fiddle with your knob".

i think Mr Noyce needs to watch some modern racing, with scrubbing becoming popular and different rythem lanes jumping is part of supercross, there is a heck of a lot of skill in racing,

Bikes have changed hugely as well, in Mr Noyce's time you would not have been able to jump things as your bike would have broken,

Mr Noyce deserve's respect for his acheivements, but you saw Stewart check out because he could jump a section no one else could,

scott411
7th March 2011, 12:34
Classic! I must say...I've always loved doing TT's off road, and VMX tracks remind me of that too. Nothing beats a road race track in the dirt for good high speed fun!

yes i love TT type tracks as well, a good times scramble track in a rolling paddock is awesome, but then i can not get around a supercross track like i used to either, when you get a rythem lane, or a big jump done for the first time is pretty cool

Scott

Crasherfromwayback
7th March 2011, 12:39
yes i love TT type tracks as well, a good times scramble track in a rolling paddock is awesome, but then i can not get around a supercross track like i used to either, when you get a rythem lane, or a big jump done for the first time is pretty cool

Scott

Hahaha...I've only ever ridden on two indoor supercross tracks, and hurt myself both times!

scott411
7th March 2011, 12:53
Hahaha...I've only ever ridden on two indoor supercross tracks, and hurt myself both times!


i have some good scars from my supercross riding as well, and some good combined insurance claims

Crasherfromwayback
7th March 2011, 13:13
i have some good scars from my supercross riding as well, and some good combined insurance claims

Difference between you and me though...is you were/are good at it!

scott411
7th March 2011, 15:25
Difference between you and me though...is you were/are good at it!

i think the scars prove otherwise lol

Crasherfromwayback
7th March 2011, 15:32
i think the scars prove otherwise lol

Funny that. Most of my scars etc have come from me showing people just how wonderful I am on a motorcycle, when obviously I'm not!

browny
12th March 2011, 07:40
cool old style race on first page. bit different back in 86,fat guy with 30 second board, instead of hottie,nearly gets run over as well. hay bales before tuff blocks were thought of.

oldguy
12th March 2011, 11:11
i love this and these guys look like local club amateur riders. something we need to do a bit more of here in NZ, spectator friendly as well.

<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="640" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/gbaH3APDNZk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Reckless
12th March 2011, 12:08
Bloody good find old guy those guys where havin a right good battle mid race!

browny
15th March 2011, 19:19
[QUOTE=oldguy;1130009531]i love this and these guys look like local club amateur riders. something we need to do a bit more of here in NZ, spectator friendly as well.

yea that looks like fun, fun just watching from that view.got any more

scott411
15th March 2011, 20:30
actaully, James could learn something from that video,

the guy on the kawasaki that was leading the guy with the camera, protected the inside very well, cutting off the corners so the guy with the camera can not get an inside line, at one stage he leaves the door open he squares him up and keeps the position,

also to add, the guy with the camera also was checking that no one was coming up the inside on a number of occasions,

Ktmboy
15th March 2011, 22:54
actaully, James could learn something from that video,

the guy on the kawasaki that was leading the guy with the camera, protected the inside very well, cutting off the corners so the guy with the camera can not get an inside line, at one stage he leaves the door open he squares him up and keeps the position,

also to add, the guy with the camera also was checking that no one was coming up the inside on a number of occasions,

Ahh... but the guy behind lost momentum on a number of occasions by squaring up the corners, there by not puting on as much pressure. Two schools of thought here. The hare and the turtle (ten thousand buffalo girls go round the out side, round the outside)
Good find all the same. Now if only the major distributors could contribute we could maybe put in a track like that. Outdoors of course.
The track didn't look overly gnarly(looks can be decieving tho) and the essense should be on safety as opposed to carnage.