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slowpoke
8th March 2011, 07:26
OK, frustration has finally got the better of me so on the block is the awesome bike that had me enduring months in the doghouse with the missus and was going to last me for the forseeable future.
I can only make 3 Winter rounds this season (less if work/life intervenes again) and despite my best efforts/planning I just can't get to the track often enough to do myself or the bike justice, so it's time I woke up, smelt the petrol, and picked up something more appropriate for a very part-timer. I'm thinkin' BEAR's or Post Classic's, which will give a few more racing opportunities and not against guys who could race at World Superbike level. I'm definitely not desperate as worst case scenario is it's still one of the best race bikes in the country and a farkin' hoot to ride.
Enough waffle, down to nuts and bolts:
GSXR1000K7 built by NZ's winningest bike engineer/legend, Ray Clee.
Ohlins 25mm NIX fork cartrides,
Ohlins TTX shock, (cartidges/shock freshened/built up by CKT 5 rides ago)
WP steering damper
A full fat RCM Stage 3 engine that Robbie Bugden used to win NZSBK championship
-Yoshi STG-R cams
-Yoshi adjustable cam sprockets
-Yoshi valve springs/cotters/Ti retainers
-Yoshi head gasket
-Yoshi second air blind kit
-Yoshi main clutch springs/reaction springs/clutch plates
-Yoshi velocity stacks
-Yoshi alloy oil breather/catch tank
-Yoshi R77 full exhaust
-BMC air filter
etc etc
Yoshi Em-Pro ECU, gives ultimate trackside control of fuel/igntion mapping (2 x switcheable onboard maps), braking assist, quickshifter (dynojet sensor included but not fitted), traction control (revs based) etc, software and cable included.
Yoshi race wiring loom
Yoshi spark plugs
Yoshi rearsets
Vortex clip-ons
Vortex lightweight front fairing/instrument brace
Billet "roll-a-click" levers
Stomp-grip
Keyless lightweight fuel cap
Armour Bodies fairings with a mega dollar paint job (the "black" in the photo's is a black/candy red/metallic very difficult to capture)
Dukic (Yoshi-type) +2mm swingarm eccentrics
Quick turn throttle
Braided lines
Oggy-type knobs and engine protectors
520 chain and multi sprockets
Brand new set of Pirelli slicks
And the un-marked road gear, including tank, owners manual etc.
Note: km's is a bullshit (but entitrely appropriate) figure as actual mileage is unknown
$16000 for this lot is cheap for a bike that hasn't had much use and would have cost $40-50k to build from scratch.
There are many options here as I also have spares for Africa, accumulated for a 2011 Nationals campaign that other things in life conspired to throw cold water on. So I also have spare:
Front/rear wheels
Unobtainium Yoshi "kit" dual tri-oval Ti exhaust
Front and rear OEM subframes
Complete set of Billy's nice Yoshi-copy fairings, freshly pro-painted, including tank
Rearsets
Clip-ons
Brake master
Brake/clutch Levers
Etc
Spares are available at extra cost, but I'll do a sharp deal for what would be a fantastic race "package" all inclusive, or mix and match to suit your needs. Not interested in selling spares unless bike sells.
White trash
8th March 2011, 07:30
Despite your best efforts to fuck up the static shots Spud, I've got wood.
slowpoke
8th March 2011, 07:44
Despite your best efforts to fuck up the static shots Spud, I've got wood.
Yeah, sorry 'bout those, it's all I've got out here at work. If I recall correctly I'd just dressed her up in her new party frock (fairings) and despite being nearly dark I thought I better snap something before heading off to HD at some rude hour the next morning. You should have seen them before I cranked up the brightness etc! I'll sort something better next week...or not, I'm almost hoping it doesn't sell.
Hey, you guys could use the donk in your sidey, and flog the rest, it would work out to be some farkin' cheap horsepower.
Tony.OK
8th March 2011, 13:52
Oh mate................what would ya take as a trade?
I can offer my well thrashed Mrs, still in fairly good nic, unsure of km's but has done a few. Still pretty easy on the eye..............and still performs like a new one :innocent:
God damn I wish I was better with money, that is a purdy bike, even though its a Suzuki!
If Big Wed comes my way consider it sold fella, or perhaps an HP agreement, say $5p/w forever..........................................D rew I need my cash back bro hahaa
CHOPPA
8th March 2011, 14:07
Oh mate................what would ya take as a trade?
I can offer my well thrashed Mrs, still in fairly good nic, unsure of km's but has done a few. Still pretty easy on the eye..............and still performs like a new one :innocent:
God damn I wish I was better with money, that is a purdy bike, even though its a Suzuki!
If Big Wed comes my way consider it sold fella, or perhaps an HP agreement, say $5p/w forever..........................................D rew I need my cash back bro hahaa
Would you require a test ride Tony???
Call Adrian at Whites, he was looking for something
Tony.OK
8th March 2011, 14:11
Would you require a test ride Tony???
If I had the money.........No actually, ya shit stirring cock.
cowpoos
8th March 2011, 17:04
I've got wood.
I grew a trunk!!
Dam spud.....that is a machine!! are you stopping racing or getting a new toy??
Drew
8th March 2011, 17:25
I'll need to test ride it in a week and a half for both days. If I can get the lap record by more than a second, I'll buy it.
cowpoos
8th March 2011, 17:45
I'll need to test ride it in a week and a half for both days. If I can get the lap record by more than a second, I'll buy it.
you gunna repower the chair?
Drew
8th March 2011, 18:06
you gunna repower the chair?
You remember what happened last time ya started smack talking about how I would get on at the hillclimb homo?
cowpoos
8th March 2011, 18:21
You remember what happened last time ya started smack talking about how I would get on at the hillclimb homo?
That was your brother....I smack talked about a race at taupo...
Drew
8th March 2011, 18:32
That was your brother....I smack talked about a race at taupo...
It was you just as much as him.
slowpoke
8th March 2011, 23:52
Oh mate................what would ya take as a trade?
I can offer my well thrashed Mrs, still in fairly good nic, unsure of km's but has done a few. Still pretty easy on the eye..............and still performs like a new one :innocent:
Having met your lovely lady that is a very tempting offer! Aaaah, who am I kiddin' I can't keep one of 'em happy let alone two.....
Dam spud.....that is a machine!! are you stopping racing or getting a new toy??
Stopping racing? I don't seem to be able to start this last year, and things won't be much better for the next one. Nah, still keen as. I can qualify OK but I'm scared sooner or later I'm gonna get in Stroudy's/Craig's/Robbies way at Nat's or Street meets but if I don't enter then I don't get any racing or the chance to get up to speed with just 2 or 3 club meets a year, so I'm kinda snookered.
So I'm thinking that a decent BEAR's or Post Classic bike (maybe even F3) will give me more options at Club and Street meets, SOT etc and with similar part timers (if someone would kindly kneecap Choppa and/or Glen W)
I'll need to test ride it in a week and a half for both days. If I can get the lap record by more than a second, I'll buy it.
Nah, I'd much rather watch you wrassling the RF over the bridge section, it's gonna be the highlight of the weekend.
Crasherfromwayback
9th March 2011, 07:04
even better buy!
White trash
9th March 2011, 08:20
You remember what happened last time ya started smack talking about how I would get on at the hillclimb homo?
That was your brother....I smack talked about a race at taupo...
It was you just as much as him.
Oi you two homos, it was not me. I stayed the fuck out of it and I'm glad I did......
bones1999
9th March 2011, 08:34
Very nice bike, DR. Bob knows how to stress me out!!!! OK, I mean how he can stress my wife out:facepalm: As for Deano, I'm glad he learnt how to get out of the way, with or without my help!!!!!!!!!!! What is the general cost of a race meeting (excluding any accidents)? I heard I can expect to go through loads of tyres, like 3 rears and 2 fronts???????????? That cost alone scared the shit out of me.
Drew
9th March 2011, 08:59
Very nice bike, DR. Bob knows how to stress me out!!!! OK, I mean how he can stress my wife out:facepalm: As for Deano, I'm glad he learnt how to get out of the way, with or without my help!!!!!!!!!!! What is the general cost of a race meeting (excluding any accidents)? I heard I can expect to go through loads of tyres, like 3 rears and 2 fronts???????????? That cost alone scared the shit out of me.
At a club meet with the bike set up a pair of tyres should last you the day.
Craig Sherriffs or Sloan will sell you decent used tyres but you'll likely need a couple sets of them per meeting.
That's your biggest expense, but with a bike as trick as this, servicing is CRUCIAL. Don't skimp and it'll go forever, try cutting corners and learn what a titanium valve can do to the top of a piston. If you are mechanically inclined that servicing is pretty inexpensive considering the horsepower it produces, in the region of 200 REAL ponies at the rear tread. This bike is either Robbie Bugdens '07 winning bike, or Strouds runner up. You know it's a good one, Spud takes good care of his toys so it will be ready to go.
Matt Bleck
9th March 2011, 09:48
:drool:
Why did I look at this thread!!! :weep:
slowpoke
9th March 2011, 10:49
Very nice bike, DR. Bob knows how to stress me out!!!! OK, I mean how he can stress my wife out:facepalm: As for Deano, I'm glad he learnt how to get out of the way, with or without my help!!!!!!!!!!! What is the general cost of a race meeting (excluding any accidents)? I heard I can expect to go through loads of tyres, like 3 rears and 2 fronts???????????? That cost alone scared the shit out of me.
Hell no, it's no where near as bad as people think. Sure at the National's or high profile street meets you'd spend a bit to be up the front (same as any class) but if you're smart you'll do what Stroudy does: set the bike up on used tyres, after all that's what you are running 2/3rd's of the race on and just save your new rubber for the races. 1 x front and 2 x rears will easily get the job done during a National's weekend with some used rubber for practice. 15laps isn't that much work, unless you are scratching for 10th's right at the pointy end.
The Winter series is a good opportunity to use the used rubber you've accumulated doing the National's. All depends how serious you want to take it: how important is half a second to you? Are you good enough to find it?
The rest of the bike: 5W-50 full synthetic oil and filter (I've got a couple spare for the buyer) every 2 race/track days and she's sound as a pound. I'm also running Water Wetter for added insurance and tape up the radiator on cold days for healthy temp's as per Ray's instructions.
The frame was actually Craig Shirriffs before he went all squiffy on the Honda, then Ray bolted in one of Robbies engines and used the bike for a couple of meetings himself, before I bought it. I've got some documentation from Ray listing spec's, history etc for the buyer.
I didn't get on with the out of the box WP suspension as fitted for the sale (Ray runs Dunlops, I run Pirelli's) and eventually opted for some of Dr Bob's finest (same as Stroudy's K7 setup on Pirelli's) which absolutely transformed the bike.
Danger Dave
9th March 2011, 11:23
This bike is either Robbie Bugdens '07 winning bike, or Strouds runner up. You know it's a good one, Spud takes good care of his toys so it will be ready to go.
I own Robbies championship wining bike :yes:, these bikes are very fast and a lot of fun, now if only i could lose 40kilos and learn to ride it properly :innocent:
bones1999
9th March 2011, 11:24
At a club meet with the bike set up a pair of tyres should last you the day.
Craig Sherriffs or Sloan will sell you decent used tyres but you'll likely need a couple sets of them per meeting.
That's your biggest expense, but with a bike as trick as this, servicing is CRUCIAL. Don't skimp and it'll go forever, try cutting corners and learn what a titanium valve can do to the top of a piston. If you are mechanically inclined that servicing is pretty inexpensive considering the horsepower it produces, in the region of 200 REAL ponies at the rear tread. This bike is either Robbie Bugdens '07 winning bike, or Strouds runner up. You know it's a good one, Spud takes good care of his toys so it will be ready to go.
I'm a motorcycle technician (grease monkey) by trade and I've worked for a British Supersport Team in the past and race prepared my own machines and many others for years, so when you say 'servicing', how often do I need to replace valves, seats, cotters etc to keep it reliable?????
Drew
9th March 2011, 17:10
I'm a motorcycle technician (grease monkey) by trade and I've worked for a British Supersport Team in the past and race prepared my own machines and many others for years, so when you say 'servicing', how often do I need to replace valves, seats, cotters etc to keep it reliable?????
If they are yoshi titanium ones, then 1500k's is the recommended replacement interval, (only from memory) on my K6 built to similar spec as this bike.
Spud, you got the guff on how often ya gotta do the K7?
cowpoos
9th March 2011, 17:12
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So I'm thinking that a decent BEAR's or Post Classic bike (maybe even F3) will give me more options at Club and Street meets, SOT etc and with similar part timers (if someone would kindly kneecap Choppa and/or Glen W)
bears sounds like a great idea....Didn' you have a real priddy Duck a few years ago?
driftn
9th March 2011, 18:35
This bike is either Robbie Bugdens '07 winning bike, or Strouds runner up. You know it's a good one,.
Sloan had Strouds runner up and pretty sure its still for sale on trademe.
slowpoke
9th March 2011, 18:44
I'm a motorcycle technician (grease monkey) by trade and I've worked for a British Supersport Team in the past and race prepared my own machines and many others for years, so when you say 'servicing', how often do I need to replace valves, seats, cotters etc to keep it reliable?????
If they are yoshi titanium ones, then 1500k's is the recommended replacement interval, (only from memory) on my K6 built to similar spec as this bike.
Spud, you got the guff on how often ya gotta do the K7?
Yep, pretty much on the money mate, 1200-1500km's is about the range mentioned. He said you can push it out but you do risk cracking the seat area on the valves.
I haven't got the info in front of me but from memory Robbie used the engine for 3 meetings. Ray rebuilt it and did about 3 meetings himself then freshened it up before onselling to me. I've done 4 race meetings and maybe 5(?) test days.
I can send a copy of the original spec's/history I received from Ray if required.
bears sounds like a great idea....Didn' you have a real priddy Duck a few years ago?
Yeah, I did have a nice ol' 916SP before the racing bug really bit. Back to the future?
Drew
10th March 2011, 06:37
Sloan had Strouds runner up and pretty sure its still for sale on trademe.
That'd be Mr Bugdens K9 bro.
Drew
10th March 2011, 06:41
With mine I was going to chuck standard valves back in and lower the rev limit back to standard, I don't think I ever used the over rev available. But that'd need some looking into to ensure they could handle the faster closing force, of the sharper cam profile.
Danger Dave
10th March 2011, 07:40
That'd be Mr Bugdens K9 bro.
Nope Sloan had Strouds K7, Dean Holland brought it from sloan and then sold it on trade me for a crazy low price of $10500, bloody cheap for a bike like that.
slowpoke
10th March 2011, 09:24
With mine I was going to chuck standard valves back in and lower the rev limit back to standard, I don't think I ever used the over rev available. But that'd need some looking into to ensure they could handle the faster closing force, of the sharper cam profile.
What was the over rev on the K5/6 Drew? On my old HRC 'blade all the HRC gubbins/ECU etc bumped up the redline by 1250rpm, but on this I was suprised it's only 250rpm higher. No mention of Yoshi valves (not sure they were allowed on 07/8?) so they could be the OEM jobbies with Yoshi retainers/collets etc). Certainly makes things simpler/cheaper and it's not like it lacks for grunt.
Interesting that more mods are allowed now so there is room to play with it if someone was so inclined (:weird:) or just enjoy what is already a wicked bike. As it is it'll run on fine straight premium no need for 98 if you are playing at Teretonga (no 98 available)
Andrew Strouds old mechanic/mate Ian has got Andrews old full monty K3/4 superbike with all the yoshi gear intact and uses it on the road! Even with the monster cams etc it had done 30000km's trouble free, great testament to Ray's engineering, 'cos Ian wasn't shy about giving it a hiding. Don't think I haven't thought about it with this........
I've pretty much nana'd it while I was struggling with the WP suspenders so there's plenty of miles in it yet.
Tony.OK
10th March 2011, 16:25
I've pretty much nana'd it while I was struggling with the WP suspenders so there's plenty of miles in it yet.
Better book the 25th off then hadn't I? :innocent:
slowpoke
10th March 2011, 16:41
Better book the 25th off then hadn't I? :innocent:
Yep, lots to do with finishing/moving house etc but I'm still hoping to make it, and a session has got your name on it if I do.
johan
10th March 2011, 16:47
Yep, lots to do with finishing/moving house etc but I'm still hoping to make it, and a session has got your name on it if I do.
You won't have the track for yourself this time :devil2:
Drew
10th March 2011, 16:58
What was the over rev on the K5/6 Drew? On my old HRC 'blade all the HRC gubbins/ECU etc bumped up the redline by 1250rpm, but on this I was suprised it's only 250rpm higher.
The over rev on mine might have been 1000rpm, if I really coax the grey matter it seems to come back with that figure.
After market valves were allowed, just had to be standard size I think.
The Honda stuff can get away with more over rev since the things are built to last, rather than go fast.:Pokey: Strange since they are the first to get smokey, and blowing up gixxer motors takes REAL dedication.
madmartin
9th April 2011, 03:00
part trade on a 999 biposta? pretty well mint, 23k all services done
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