Anyone still using Internet Explorer 6?

[SpankMe]

Even Microsoft wants it gone. http://ie6countdown.com/

I'd hate to think what this site looks like using such an old browser. So who's still using it?

[Bald Eagle]

Why would you use any version of the blight that is Microsoft

[Hawkeye]

Even Microsoft wants it gone. http://ie6countdown.com/

I'd hate to think what this site looks like using such an old browser. So who's still using it?

Hey Spank, Shouldn't the question be ' who is still using explorer ' :nya:

[onearmedbandit]

Hey Spank, Shouldn't the question be ' who is still using explorer ' :nya:

Not even the man himself...

<img src="http://www.fugly.com/media/IMAGES/Nerdy/bill-gates-firefox.jpg"/>

[MSTRS]

How can you tell which version is being used?

[oneofsix]

How can you tell which version is being used?
Menu bar
Help - "About Internet Explorer"

[MSTRS]

Ta. 8 installed.

[riffer]

Not me. But my Sun Ultra 5 at home is still using Netscape 7 so don't drop that yet. :mellow:

[Gremlin]

I probably have 6 kicking around on a few machines, but it's not used day to day. IE is the best browser out there for a single purpose.

Downloading Firefox

[RDjase]

Even Microsoft wants it gone. http://ie6countdown.com/

I'd hate to think what this site looks like using such an old browser. So who's still using it?

My old lap top had it. It wouldn't let me log on to Internet banking, visordown and a few other sites. Not sure if trademe still worked with it

My current PC has Explorer 8. Whats better about firefox? Havnt used it before.

Anyone got a link to a download?

[steve_t]

Until recently had IE6 still running on some Win2K Pentium III machines :shit: But they're gone now and replacement machines are WinXP with Firefox. Still get hassled by computer geeks for not having everything on Win7 :shutup:

[SpankMe]

My old lap top had it. It wouldn't let me log on to Internet banking, visordown and a few other sites. Not sure if trademe still worked with it

My current PC has Explorer 8. Whats better about firefox? Havnt used it before.

Anyone got a link to a download?

Firefox download (http://www.google.com/chrome/)

[steve_t]

Firefox download (http://www.google.com/chrome/)

Huh? :blink:

[RDjase]

Firefox download (http://www.google.com/chrome/)

Google Chrome ?

Is that firefox?

[SpankMe]

Google Chrome ?

Is that firefox?

New improved version :)

[Scuba_Steve]

Firefox download (http://www.google.com/chrome/)

or if you want the Chrome-like browser without Google stalking you round everywhere SRWare Iron (http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php) it's Chrome without the data mining :yes:

And the actual Firefox link is Here (http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/)

[Bald Eagle]

Firefox download (http://www.google.com/chrome/)

now that's just nasty :puke:

[Toaster]

Chrome ... data mining :yes:

Yeah I noticed it seemed to auto-fill any online forms I fill in.... makes me wonder exactly what is is recording. I run IE simply because I neither know of or particularly understand the benefits of these other things like firefox or whatever it is.

[RDjase]

Firefox download (http://www.google.com/chrome/)

I think I'l stick with this one

http://www.doogle.org/

[Scuba_Steve]

Yeah I noticed it seemed to auto-fill any online forms I fill in.... makes me wonder exactly what is is recording. I run IE simply because I neither know of or particularly understand the benefits of these other things like firefox or whatever it is.

1st benefit of ANY other browser is they work :yes:. If it helps any IE data mines too just they do it for Bing, and anyone with a choice should NEVER use IE, NEVER!

[White trash]

Firefox download (http://www.google.com/chrome/)

Sneaky bastard............

[RDjase]

I have downloaded Firefox. I was just looking at bikes on trdaeme and it wouldnt let me change the search from Hawkes Bay to NZ. I then run it with IE8 and it worked fine

Any ideas why?

And its running IE8 with add ons off now, dont know how to change it back to how it was originaly ( 2 hours ago)

[Toaster]

Okay, so can some computer whizz explain in plain english what is wrong with IE and what is the best safest browser to use and why?

I have only ever used the standard stuff that my computers came with (and likely little of that) so have nothing to compare it to and don't have the I.T. knowledge or experience to really know what difference it makes and if that difference is really material for a standard computer user.

[Kendog]

My browser advice.
If your browsing experience is ok for you i.e. you don't think you have any problems, then don't change it.

I have IE6 still installed on my work PC, but use FF for KB. Will try IE6 and see what it looks like.

[onearmedbandit]

I converted to Firefox mostly for tabbed browsing, but now IE has that too. I stick with Firefox now because I know it, and computer geeks don't launch into a rant 'cos you're still using IE.

[steve_t]

Okay, so can some computer whizz explain in plain english what is wrong with IE and what is the best safest browser to use and why?



http://www.zdnet.com/blog/igeneration/recent-ie-security-flaw-is-one-flaw-too-many-time-to-jump-ship/7988

:yes:

[Scuba_Steve]

Okay, so can some computer whizz explain in plain english what is wrong with IE and what is the best safest browser to use and why?

I have only ever used the standard stuff that my computers came with (and likely little of that) so have nothing to compare it to and don't have the I.T. knowledge or experience to really know what difference it makes and if that difference is really material for a standard computer user.

There is many things wrong with IE from the fact it (like most MS products) fails to comply with standards & thus can render websites incorrectly (yes I know they have got better with IE8 but still far to go) to its security flaws as pointed out above and everything in-between.
As for a secure browser that is a hard one :scratch:
Given Google is offering $20,000 USD for anyone who could corrupt their browser in the 1st day of security hacking event Pwn2Own as no-one did last year you could consider Chrome (http://www.google.com/chrome)/SRWare Iron (http://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php) the "safest" (given SRware deal in security I would rate Iron over Chrome) but I would have no probs with Firefox, Safari, or Opera either
At the end of the day any browser running things like flash can be compromised, the old "only as strong as the weakest link" reigns true, IE also has an extra "weakest link" of ActiveX.

[Buyasta]

Okay, so can some computer whizz explain in plain english what is wrong with IE and what is the best safest browser to use and why?

I have only ever used the standard stuff that my computers came with (and likely little of that) so have nothing to compare it to and don't have the I.T. knowledge or experience to really know what difference it makes and if that difference is really material for a standard computer user.
Ultimately it comes down to personal preference, and there isn't a huge amount of difference between the various browsers, although there is some.

IE tends to be slower than most of it's competitors to patch security vulnerabilities as MS have a fairly long QA cycle, but it also tends to be the best supported in terms of complex systems that work better with some browsers than others, it's also not overly fast.
Firefox is a great deal more configurable to your specific needs than other browsers due to it's robust extensions system, and is OSS, but isn't particularly quick.
Opera is fast and feature rich, and some tend to like it's GUI better than the alternatives.
Chrome takes the cake in terms of outright speed, and the majority of it's source is available as Chromium - basically they take Chromium, add some branding, an auto-update, some usage tracking and Flash, and call it Chrome (Or in the case of Iron, SRWare take Chromium, make various patches to enhance privacy and security, and call it Iron).

So yeah, it pretty much comes down to a question of what you are most comfortable with - Personally I use Firefox, partially out of habit - I've been using it since back when it was called Phoenix, but mostly because with the help of a few extensions I have it set up exactly the way I like it, and I dislike certain things about the alternatives.

Pretty much the upshot is that if you're happy with your current browser, you should probably stick with it, although if you are on IE and are concerned about security, you could try Iron/Chrome, Firefox, or Opera, and if you find them just as pleasant to use as IE, they're probably a slightly better choice.

[Grasshopperus]

Even Microsoft wants it gone. http://ie6countdown.com/

I'd hate to think what this site looks like using such an old browser. So who's still using it?

Site looks awesome in 'links' - that's the fastest and most secure browser available FYI (OK, maybe 'lynx' is more secure). I'm posting using it and even managed to upload screen shots

[Kendog]

Site looks awesome in 'links' - that's the fastest and most secure browser available FYI (OK, maybe 'lynx' is more secure). I'm posting using it and even managed to upload screen shots
That is some ugly shit right there :blink:

[sil3nt]

Love how people are paranoid about google chrome.

Chrome is simple and fast. Not bloated with useless features. Even has an ad block that works now.

[pete376403]

IE9 beta seems to work ok.

[warewolf]

I'm a Microsoft-biased tech, so I tend to use IE8 professionally. Personally I use Google Chrome, Mozilla Firefox 4 beta, MS IE 9 beta (now RC1), and Opera Mini on the BlackBerry. All three of those PC products are now homogenising, so it matters less which one you choose, based on features. Firefox introduced tabs - now they all have it. Chrome used to be noticeably faster, but feature-poor and failed to render lots of pages at first release eg vBulletin (KB's software) - now the others are just as fast and IE9 has more rendering issues than earlier versions used to. IE used to seriously lag the others for features - now it's pretty much on par. The UI look'n'feel is a lot the same, especially the header area.

What is important, is bookmark sync across browsers and machines. I use Xmarks so it doesn't matter which browser I fire up on which machine, all my stuff is right there.

From my web programming & analysis role I can tell you some massive percentage of IE users are still on IE6, maybe one- to two-thirds can't recall exactly, which means a big slice of all users since it is by far the dominant browser, despite all the anti-microsoft religious zealots. Don't presume that everyone is using a PC that can be upgraded. Lots of embedded browsers are IE6 and won't be brought forward (heck there's still significant amounts of IE3 out there, but it is dropping off). And IE9 can't be installed on WinXP, so IE8 market share will stick for a long time in tandem with XP.

Note that IE6 is relatively buggy & insecure, which is partly why MS don't want to support it anymore. It's also 3 generations old now. So I don't recommend it... just sayin' it's out there and it's not going to go away anytime soon.

[EJK]

The recent "Internet Explorer users vulnerable to hack (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/134039-(News)-900m-Internet-Explorer-users-vulnerable-to-hack)" news made me stay far away from IE.

I'm enjoying Chrome.

[Gremlin]

Not having Chrome installed on this PC, I can't remember, but I remember dealing with a client PC, and finding Chrome was a resource hog, or far too large for a browser... something like that?

Can't remember specifically, but enough to make me steer well clear. IE still has to be used for stuff like Outlook Web Access, Coral Tab doesn't work last time I checked, IE Tab is fantastic, and no longer supported (so I'm still running on Firefox 3.5). :facepalm:

[Scuba_Steve]

for those "security conscious" out there initial results from pwn2own are in

Safari and IE8 get shamed at Pwn2Own, Chrome still safe... for now (http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/10/safari-and-ie8-get-shamed-at-pwn2own-chrome-still-safe-for-n/)

or the "full story" here (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9214022/Google_s_Chrome_untouched_at_Pwn2Own_hack_match)

[oneofsix]

for those "security conscious" out there initial results from pwn2own are in

Safari and IE8 get shamed at Pwn2Own, Chrome still safe... for now (http://www.engadget.com/2011/03/10/safari-and-ie8-get-shamed-at-pwn2own-chrome-still-safe-for-n/)

or the "full story" here (http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9214022/Google_s_Chrome_untouched_at_Pwn2Own_hack_match)

Guess that makes one security pro WRONG

Microsoft has done a great job of improving the security of Internet Explorer over the last few years. I would not be surprised if IE emerged as the winner of the upcoming Pwn3Own contest :nya: Come on it was always going to be the prime target.
Bit unfair as Chrome hasn't been attacked ... yet. So you can't say it 'safe', you can imply it though as Google were offering 20k if someone could crack it on the first day. Contra to that is the fact that the two taken down so far are the ones that come with the two most popular OS's, Microsoft Windows and Apple OSX so they were going to be the headliners to take out.
No mention of Firefox?