View Full Version : True cost of running a 50cc scooter?
Bytor
10th March 2011, 09:59
So what is the true cost today of running a 50cc scooter per year?
Rego cost per year
Insurance for 45 year old with clean licence
Fuel for 30km round commute
Servicing?
Cheers
CrazyFrog
10th March 2011, 17:25
Annual rego: $92 (at last count)
No WOF required.
Insurance with clean record should be not much more than $100 depending on your insurer.
Expect to get around 25km per litre fuel from most modern Japanese 2 stroke scoots, Yamaha Jog, Suzuki SJ50 etc.
Four stroke have similar economy, but not sure about service intervals.
I don’t trust the Chinese scoots enough to rate their performance or longiviety.
Most 2T scoots use around 1 litre 2 stroke oil ($15) per 1000 km, on the standard injector system, unless it’s running a richer premix oil ratio.
The 2 stroke might need new spark plug every 5000km ($10) and check drive belt at 10,000 km (but will prob do 15K).
My Suzuki AY50 has now done 11,000 km, drive belt is still sweet and all I have had to do was replace 1 new spark plug. Most of it’s use is around town with throttle pinned to the stops, and have done a couple of 250km highway sojourns for a laugh. Average speed was 56kmph, LOL.
I’ve replaced the rear tyre with a Michelin Pilot City at 8500 km for $90 fitted. There are cheaper tyres around, try Maxxis or Kenda for example. Front tyre is still sweet, will prob do 13-15k.
These things run on the smell of a oily rag, literally, and because they have next to no horsepower, stuff just doesn’t seem to flog out, so long as you do very basic maintenance.
Lube throttle cable, check spark plug, brake fluids, steering bearings etc.
Don’t crash it, plastics are expensive.
Never had any bulbs blow.
Brake pads will last for ages.
My advice is to derestrict the scoot first, they run so much better, don’t foul plugs, and cruise around 65kmph rather than 50kmph, so you don’t get monstered by traffic.
DangerMice
10th March 2011, 18:32
My last rego cost was $110 for 15 months before the increase last July.
I get 145km on a tank ($11 last fill), which lasts me 3 days but my rollers are worn. I used to get 160km when everything was new.
Service costs around $100-$120, but I do it myself these days. Last service cost $90, but that included a new drive belt, new front brake pads, new spark plug and new rollers (haven't put them in yet). That would normally all be extra.
On my Jog, you're meant to replace the rollers & drive belt every 6000km. I let my belt go to 15,000km (:facepalm:) and while the belt was ok, I had lost about 8kph off my top speed.
I buy oil in 4l packs, works out way cheaper than buying 1l bottles, and I top it off every month or so.
My insurance is about $100 as well (State)
I've had to replace the rear tyre as it got a nail through the sidewall, but at about 10,000km, it was about due for replacement anyway. Got a Pirelli Ceat Rio from Scootling for $40, plus $45 for fitting. Front tyre is still pretty good.
Only other expense has been a blown headlight, but that was cheap to replace.
All in all, it's the cheapest form of motorised transport I've ever had. The running costs are a joke, and parts are all ridiculously cheap.
DangerMice
10th March 2011, 18:36
I’ve replaced the rear tyre (Michelin Pilot City) at 8500 km for $90.
What's your opinion of that tyre CrazyFrog?
marty
10th March 2011, 19:13
if you need to know how much it costs to run a 50cc scooter, then riding any sort of motorbike is probably not for you.
CrazyFrog
10th March 2011, 19:26
What's your opinion of that tyre CrazyFrog?
Sticks like dog poo to a picnic blanket (at a whopping 65kmph, ROFL)
Same tyre works much better in all weather on my Gilera 180SP.
Scoot was originally shod with Michelin Dexter, fine in dry, but loose in the wet.
I've also used Pirelli Ceat Rio on the Gilera, good but wear out fast.
DangerMice
11th March 2011, 09:47
I've also used Pirelli Ceat Rio on the Gilera, good but wear out fast.
That's what I'm starting to think too, it does look to be wearing faster than I expected. Might try the Michelin next time. Thanks
nodrog
11th March 2011, 10:23
$2789.69
Fanny.
Bytor
11th March 2011, 16:07
Annual rego: $92 (at last count)
No WOF required.
Insurance with clean record should be not much more than $100 depending on your insurer.
Expect to get around 25km per litre fuel from most modern Japanese 2 stroke scoots, Yamaha Jog, Suzuki SJ50 etc.
Four stroke have similar economy, but not sure about service intervals.
I don’t trust the Chinese scoots enough to rate their performance or longiviety.
Most 2T scoots use around 1 litre 2 stroke oil ($15) per 1000 km, on the standard injector system, unless it’s running a richer premix oil ratio.
The 2 stroke might need new spark plug every 5000km ($10) and check drive belt at 10,000 km (but will prob do 15K).
My Suzuki AY50 has now done 11,000 km, drive belt is still sweet and all I have had to do was replace 1 new spark plug. Most of it’s use is around town with throttle pinned to the stops, and have done a couple of 250km highway sojourns for a laugh. Average speed was 56kmph, LOL.
I’ve replaced the rear tyre with a Michelin Pilot City at 8500 km for $90 fitted. There are cheaper tyres around, try Maxxis or Kenda for example. Front tyre is still sweet, will prob do 13-15k.
These things run on the smell of a oily rag, literally, and because they have next to no horsepower, stuff just doesn’t seem to flog out, so long as you do very basic maintenance.
Lube throttle cable, check spark plug, brake fluids, steering bearings etc.
Don’t crash it, plastics are expensive.
Never had any bulbs blow.
Brake pads will last for ages.
My advice is to derestrict the scoot first, they run so much better, don’t foul plugs, and cruise around 65kmph rather than 50kmph, so you don’t get monstered by traffic.
25km per litre? Somehow I was expecting better than that
Bytor
11th March 2011, 16:09
My last rego cost was $110 for 15 months before the increase last July.
I get 145km on a tank ($11 last fill), which lasts me 3 days but my rollers are worn. I used to get 160km when everything was new.
Service costs around $100-$120, but I do it myself these days. Last service cost $90, but that included a new drive belt, new front brake pads, new spark plug and new rollers (haven't put them in yet). That would normally all be extra.
On my Jog, you're meant to replace the rollers & drive belt every 6000km. I let my belt go to 15,000km (:facepalm:) and while the belt was ok, I had lost about 8kph off my top speed.
I buy oil in 4l packs, works out way cheaper than buying 1l bottles, and I top it off every month or so.
My insurance is about $100 as well (State)
I've had to replace the rear tyre as it got a nail through the sidewall, but at about 10,000km, it was about due for replacement anyway. Got a Pirelli Ceat Rio from Scootling for $40, plus $45 for fitting. Front tyre is still pretty good.
Only other expense has been a blown headlight, but that was cheap to replace.
All in all, it's the cheapest form of motorised transport I've ever had. The running costs are a joke, and parts are all ridiculously cheap.
Cheers just what I was looking for, esp rego costs seeing as the Transport site doesn't show moped costs
Gareth123
11th March 2011, 22:27
25km per litre? Somehow I was expecting better than that
My GL145 does 33km/L. I thought scooters would be even higher than that.
Spearfish
12th March 2011, 07:02
My GL145 does 33km/L. I thought scooters would be even higher than that.
2 smokers are best as a moped class but use slightly more gas.
The bigger scoots are better.
TimeOut
12th March 2011, 07:13
My GL145 does 33km/L. I thought scooters would be even higher than that.
+1 for that, I can get 24km/L out of the Strom
DangerMice
13th March 2011, 20:45
32km/l on the Jog. Hell I'm impressed an engine the size of a hairdryer can cart me & my crap around at all....
DangerMice
13th March 2011, 20:48
My GL145 does 33km/L. I thought scooters would be even higher than that.
+1 for that, I can get 24km/L out of the Strom
How's your economy running full throttle the whole time? LOL
Gareth123
13th March 2011, 22:02
How's your economy running full throttle the whole time? LOL
Most of my riding is done at 100km/h. My most common ride is a blast down the motorway into Redwood from Rangiora.
I drop to around 30km/h if I go full noise at 130km/h for any great length of time:banana:
DangerMice
13th March 2011, 22:08
heh heh, nice
Slunk
18th March 2011, 06:58
I bought a 2008 jog with 1,100kms on the clock for $1,450 (new are $2,200)
I bought a derestricted CDI for $205 so it now does 65km/h
12 months rego is $169 nowadays
my insurance is $130/year with State (excess is $100)
I get about 4L/100kms because I drive it flat out 80% of the time
I commute 7kms to work and all in all it's about $2/day for me which is less than what parking for a car would be by itself
And the novelty still hasn't worn off. Wet days suck though.
ramchop
19th March 2011, 10:01
Got my scooter in July last year $700 on trademe, it had done 6800km.
Now at 11,000km, easily paid off the purchase price and more with savings on commuting costs.
30km/day commute, does 25km/L, like others this is riding flat out most of the time, and I've got a big hill to deal with.
Mods, none, I opened it up to disconnect the restriction wire but found it had already been done.
Max speed very much depends on wind direction (this is Wellington). ~60km/h on the flat no wind. Up the gorge into a northerly much much slower.
Breakdowns & problems - none so far
Insurance - none, it's not worth it is it?
Gareth123
19th March 2011, 13:29
Insurance - none, it's not worth it is it?
Might pay to look at 3rd party. It will be cheap as chips. If you crash into someones car at 30km/h and it's your fault, you'll probably be surprised at how much it costs to get it fixed.
STUFF
5th April 2011, 10:15
who sells second hand scooters from Japan?
What's the price? How much is the repair of engine? It is work, no spare parts?
Maybe there is a site of such a store?
Thank you.)
A lot of scooters in New Zealand? This is a popular form of transport?
DangerMice
5th April 2011, 10:20
who sells second hand scooters from Japan?
What's the price? How much is the repair of engine? It is work, no spare parts?
Maybe there is a site of such a store?
Thank you.)
http://shop.scootling.co.nz/ <-- a popular shop in Auckland
diablo
5th April 2011, 10:44
http://shop.scootling.co.nz/ <-- a popular shop in Auckland
for parts they are great. i find their imports a tad expensive. you can get the same on trademe for $700-$1000.. go for a Yamaha Jog or Honda Dio..
STUFF
5th April 2011, 11:01
Well, the price for something that is not low, of course. But they should receive money. And what is the custom in New Zealand? High unit price of the scooter?
trying to understand what kind of business away from me. I am 10 years this has worked in Ukraine ...
Model, they are weak. I have to trade so much better models of scooters and more new ones!
Maybe it depends on the local fashion?
avgas
5th April 2011, 12:08
37p / L
42L / gm
57gm / %
110% all the time
So by my calculations - about $500-1000 / year.
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