You should be required to wear more than just a helmet...

[Skinon]

why is it only required to wear a helmet when riding? If ACC were so concerned about us hurting ourselves, then why can you ride round on a R1 with shorts jandels and a helmet on?

SURELY there should be some sort of requirement to wear protective gear more than a helmet anyway.... I mean it's similer to sitting on the roof of a car driving down the motorway.

Or at least you could choose a option where you ride in proper motorcycle attire, then you pay less? But if you get pulled over and your reg states you should and your not... then you get fined...

I dunno endless arguement i guess, like i always thought if you crash your car/bike whilst pissed then fuck you, you aint getting any acc or special medical shit, the government will keep you alive like it humanitarily has to do, but at the end of the day, you fucked up =, why should we all have to pay extra for that?

[steve_t]

Right, so make gear mandatory. This gear must be defined and must meet a particular NZ standard. Who decides the standard? The government? ACC?
Who pays for the committee who decides the standard? Tax? ACC?
Who checks that the gear remains up to standard? WOF testers? ACC? Government officials?

Man, I've got deja vu today

[jafar]

why is it only required to wear a helmet when riding? If ACC were so concerned about us hurting ourselves, then why can you ride round on a R1 with shorts jandels and a helmet on?

SURELY there should be some sort of requirement to wear protective gear more than a helmet anyway.... I mean it's similer to sitting on the roof of a car driving down the motorway.

Or at least you could choose a option where you ride in proper motorcycle attire, then you pay less? But if you get pulled over and your reg states you should and your not... then you get fined...

I dunno endless arguement i guess, like i always thought if you crash your car/bike whilst pissed then fuck you, you aint getting any acc or special medical shit, the government will keep you alive like it humanitarily has to do, but at the end of the day, you fucked up =, why should we all have to pay extra for that?

As you pointed out, you only need a helmet to ride, the law also states that you have to cover your dangly bits if your a male, females don't even have to do that:woohoo:
you can choose the option of wearing 'proper motorcycle attire'.... the question is, what is it?
A full leather suit on an R1 makes some kind of sense, but to a farmer riding his bike around it makes no sense @ all. The girl riding her scooter to work in the city has little need for a full leather suit either.:scooter:
What would happen if we suddenly had to comply with yet another compulsory regulation from those that would try to protect us from ourselves??? We live in a nanny state now, don't make it worse by telling others what they should be wearing to ride. If someone wants to nip up the shop on his R1 in a helmet & thong then let them,I'll be the first to laugh when they fall off & have road rash:yes:

[Ocean1]

why should we all have to pay extra for that?

So you want service quality to be based on what each individual pays?

Excellent. I’d like a huge rebate please.



Oh, WRT compulsory apparel. Fuck off. Again.












Further.

[Murray]

As I keep saying Bubblewrap should be compulsory for everyone - all the time!! Life's dangerous out there

[oneofsix]

As you pointed out, you only need a helmet to ride, the law also states that you have to cover your dangly bits if your a male, females don't even have to do that:woohoo:
you can choose the option of wearing 'proper motorcycle attire'.... the question is, what is it?
A full leather suit on an R1 makes some kind of sense, but to a farmer riding his bike around it makes no sense @ all. The girl riding her scooter to work in the city has little need for a full leather suit either.:scooter:
What would happen if we suddenly had to comply with yet another compulsory regulation from those that would try to protect us from ourselves??? We live in a nanny state now, don't make it worse by telling others what they should be wearing to ride. If someone wants to nip up the shop on his R1 in a helmet & thong then let them,I'll be the first to laugh when they fall off & have road rash:yes:

What law says I have to cover the dangly bits? I got my bike, licence and helmit, its all I need by law.
I choose ATGATT cause i value my skin, changing gears without boots hurts, insects hitting you hurt, etc

[steve_t]

For the people who ride naked apart from a helmet, where do you keep your licence? :blink:

[bogan]

why is it only required to wear a helmet when riding? If ACC were so concerned about us hurting ourselves, then why can you ride round on a R1 with shorts jandels and a helmet on?

Because falling off is not an inevitability, hell, if you ride with your head right, there is only the most remote chance that will happen. Also, Gandalf hasn't finished making my magical protect-against-all riding gear :facepalm:

[oneofsix]

For the people who ride naked apart from a helmet, where do you keep your licence? :blink:

:gob: in a natural pocket :innocent:

[jafar]

What law says I have to cover the dangly bits? I got my bike, licence and helmit, its all I need by law.
I choose ATGATT cause i value my skin, changing gears without boots hurts, insects hitting you hurt, etc

The law that states that leaving your dangly bits to wave in the breeze is indecent exposure . As wimmin don't have said dangly bits (well most anyway) they can ride totally naked apart from the helmet:sunny:

[Bald Eagle]

The law that states that leaving your dangly bits to wave in the breeze is indecent exposure . As wimmin don't have said dangly bits (well most anyway) they can ride totally naked apart from the helmet:sunny:
Built in air bags for the extra safety rating.

[wysper]

Gandalf hasn't finished making my magical protect-against-all riding gear :facepalm:

So you have ordered a mithril suit too? Taking bloody ages to arrive.
Hobbits might be reliable but they don't make for quick courier services.

[oneofsix]

The law that states that leaving your dangly bits to wave in the breeze is indecent exposure . As wimmin don't have said dangly bits (well most anyway) they can ride totally naked apart from the helmet:sunny:

Oh I now understand your problem. There is no law on indecent exposure. Was replaced years ago. Offensive behaviour law now covers it if you don't, which is subjective. anyhows this is :Offtopic: so :whocares:

[steve_t]

The law that states that leaving your dangly bits to wave in the breeze ...

Someone always has to bring up waving :shutup::innocent:

[oneofsix]

Someone always has to bring up waving :shutup::innocent:

Oh is that what the KB wave is? :innocent:

[jafar]

Built in air bags for the extra safety rating.

so the bigger the bags the higher the rating ??:woohoo:

[jafar]

Oh I now understand your problem. There is no law on indecent exposure. Was replaced years ago. Offensive behaviour law now covers it if you don't, which is subjective. anyhows this is :Offtopic: so :whocares:

So your saying guys can ride with just a helmet??:shutup:

[oneofsix]

So your saying guys can ride with just a helmet??:shutup:

can but your helmet might stick to the seat :shit:

[James Deuce]

Omgwtfbbq?

[Scuba_Steve]

why is it only required to wear a helmet when riding? If ACC were so concerned about us hurting ourselves, then why can you ride round on a R1 with shorts jandels and a helmet on?

SURELY there should be some sort of requirement to wear protective gear more than a helmet anyway....


ohh good idea & why their legislating what gear to wear they can also legislate all bikes must be fitted with no-less than 4 wheels, a steel "cage", seatbelts, crumple zones to protect the occupants, & hell why we're at it well throw in a requirement for airbags, side intrusion bars, & anti-roll bars too :facepalm:

We have a choice to wear gear or face the possibility of getting fucked up, this is the way I like it, CHOICE it is a good thing. The only people they're hurting is themselves and that's fine with me :yes:

[jafar]

can but your helmet might stick to the seat :shit:

the girls would have it worse though :facepalm:

[oneofsix]

the girls would have it worse though :facepalm:

kiss it better:love:

[awa355]

the girls would have it worse though :facepalm:

Have known a couple of girls who would be quite safe riding naked. Their suction cups would've kept them stuck to the seat.

[oneofsix]

Have known a couple of girls who would be quite safe riding naked. Their suction cups would've kept them stuck to the seat.

As long as their airbags didn't make them too top heavy

[jafar]

Have known a couple of girls who would be quite safe riding naked. Their suction cups would've kept them stuck to the seat.

suction cups & airbags? :woohoo:

[MadDuck]

If someone wants to nip up the shop on his R1 in a helmet & thong then let them......

For the sake of my poor eyes...this should not be allowed :facepalm:

[Little Miss Trouble]

For the sake of my poor eyes...this should not be allowed :facepalm:

Depends on who it is dunnit?

[oneofsix]

Depends on who it is dunnit?

An eye-popper :woohoo:

Leather is skin, naked is therefore leather???

[Whynot]

Looks like these are going to become the new waving threads ....

[MadDuck]

Depends on who it is dunnit?

Yes, yes this is of course very true....:yes:

[allycatz]

suction cups & airbags? :woohoo:

Suction cups on ya beer bellies should anchor ya to the tank nicely.....:shutup:

[jafar]

Suction cups on ya beer bellies should anchor ya to the tank nicely.....:shutup:

Fatt max :shit:

[oneofsix]

Suction cups on ya beer bellies should anchor ya to the tank nicely.....:shutup:

Is that what it is, I was told it was a button :innocent:

[Waxxa]

...those who practice the Sikh religion dont need to wear helmets at all. They are exempt! So someone riding around without all the gear on with this bullshit exemption...go figure :facepalm:

[Little Miss Trouble]

Yes, yes this is of course very true....:yes:

Mr Spies for example can wear whatever he damn well pleases as far as I'm concerned :drool:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e2/Ben_Spies_2010_Qatar.jpg/250px-Ben_Spies_2010_Qatar.jpg

[nodrog]

...those who practice the Sikh religion dont need to wear helmets at all. They are exempt! So someone riding around without all the gear on with this bullshit exemption...go figure :facepalm:

They cant wear a helmet, because everytime they take off the tea towel the dishes fall out.

Fanny.

[Gone Burger]

As you pointed out, you only need a helmet to ride, the law also states that you have to cover your dangly bits if your a male, females don't even have to do that:woohoo:

Gold - right there. For real? Us gals can go commando? That just brings a whole new level of fun to summer riding. :moon:

[Big Dave]

You should be required to do nothing. You should be properly informed, educated and allowed to make your own decisions.

[motor_mayhem]

Gold - right there. For real? Us gals can go commando? That just brings a whole new level of fun to summer riding. :moon:

I think there would probably be a bikoi if you decided to do that kp. :shutup:

[Ocean1]

You should be properly informed, educated and allowed to make your own decisions.

Most generous, cheers. Anyone assuming I haven't educated myself and made my very own decision can get fucked.

I'm sick and tired of fuckwits who's only interpretation of the fact that I don't agree with their opinion is that I don't understand and that I need "educating". Big black dog up 'em.

I notice the arseholes are never around when the local chapter need "educating" about churman helmet compliance issues.

[bogan]

So you have ordered a mithril suit too? Taking bloody ages to arrive.
Hobbits might be reliable but they don't make for quick courier services.

and they get the sizes wrong all the bloody time too :rolleyes:

[Skinon]

Yes, this is turning into a big fuckin nanny police nation, like most of the rest of the world. Sure you should be able to ride without protective gear, but fuck why cant you ride without a helmet then?

Just if you come of and smash your face on the curb, then tough luck. Hope your titanium oakleys gave your face enough protection. But why should we have to pay super high levies for fuckwits that decide to not use common sense, and come off their bikes leaving a 100meter trail of meaty gayness leading up to a crashed bike?

[bogan]

But why should we have to pay super high levies for fuckwits that decide to not use common sense, and come off their bikes leaving a 100meter trail of meaty gayness leading up to a crashed bike?

and there's also the ones that don't wear all the gear :shit: :facepalm:

[AllanB]

Fair question and one I have asked many times, usually after seeing some fat bastard riding in jandals.

Once I saw a photograph of a motorcyclist who had been wearing jandals and had a crash, the part of the jandal that goes between his toes was lodged in his ankle - split his foot apart when he hit the deck when the jandal stopped but the foot kept going forward at 100 or so!

Oh bla bla bla free choice bla bla argument.

The thing is ACC also pays out for the utterly stupid - if you are dirty dancing on your desk at work and the desk collapses and you get hurt then ACC will pay.

So basically if you are stupid enough not to wear any form of protective gear other then the legal requirement then ACC will cover you and probably add it to the motorcycle statistics so they may charge more on our collective regos.

Also consider cars - does ACC still pay out if you crash and are NOT wearing a seat belt? IMO they should not.
But even if you are wearing one you can be naked with a newspaper over your dick parked outside a school and have a truck run up the back of your car and ACC will cover your injuries.

And if they made some form of clothing compulsory in cars then you'll never get to see another mini-skirted young lady bending over getting her handbag from the passenger seat again.

Just what the fuck was my point? I lost myself at miniskirt .......

[James Deuce]

Just what the fuck was my point? I lost myself at miniskirt .......

As one should.

[Hitcher]

In most states in the United States of America, the only mandatory apparel is eye protection. Exposure of genitalia is subject to laws that apply to all members of the population, whether riding motorcycles or not.

While that is not how I choose to ride I accept that others have different values.

[Berries]

...those who practice the Sikh religion dont need to wear helmets at all. They are exempt! So someone riding around without all the gear on with this bullshit exemption...go figure :facepalm:
I once thought of converting, but found out the exemption is only up to 50km/h. That, and the whole divorce thing put me off. Nice knifes though.

[tigertim20]

why is it only required to wear a helmet when riding? If ACC were so concerned about us hurting ourselves, then why can you ride round on a R1 with shorts jandels and a helmet on?

SURELY there should be some sort of requirement to wear protective gear more than a helmet anyway.... I mean it's similer to sitting on the roof of a car driving down the motorway.

Or at least you could choose a option where you ride in proper motorcycle attire, then you pay less? But if you get pulled over and your reg states you should and your not... then you get fined...

I dunno endless arguement i guess, like i always thought if you crash your car/bike whilst pissed then fuck you, you aint getting any acc or special medical shit, the government will keep you alive like it humanitarily has to do, but at the end of the day, you fucked up =, why should we all have to pay extra for that?

There are two problems with your post.
1) you are making sensible suggestions to ACC.
2) you are making sensible suggestions on KB.

Cut that shit the fuck out, theres no place for any of that sensible shit on here...

ride in jandals and stubbies? fuckit, your body, your call. For me, my body is a temple. (No, Im not an adonis, Im shaped like a fucking temple. (marriage does that apparently...) So I always wear decent gear. mmmmmost of the time. kinda.
but usually:yes:

[Katman]

Because falling off is not an inevitability, hell, if you ride with your head right, there is only the most remote chance that will happen.

Word.<hgvhgvhjv>

[Gubb]

Pants are overrated.

[swbarnett]

I am continuously amased how some people find it so hard to grasp the basic principles of ACC. It exists to:

1. Ensure that people return to as great a level of productivity as possible as soon as possible after an accident.

2. Leave the courts to deal with their primary function - crimes.

3. Preserve freedom of thought. Hence the "NO FAULT" policy.

ACC benefits everybody, whether you're prone to accidents or not. Therefore we all should bare an equitable share of the cost. It is a public good.

Remember also that the levies that are currently being charge are artificially inflated.

The fact that even a helmet is compulsary sticks in my craw. Nobody, I repeat, NOBODY, has the right to protect me from myself. My head, my body, my decision! End of story.

[Usarka]

Stop feeding these trolls.

I'm sick of these hypocrites jizzing over ATGATT and complaining about other people increasing their levies, AND THEN riding like twats and crashing.

Eg.


Hmm should look into it, ill try it next time im done for somethin, i always take it right to jury if i have too.

FUCK OFF!

[Grubber]

Gold - right there. For real? Us gals can go commando? That just brings a whole new level of fun to summer riding. :moon:
Settle down young lady. You're gonna get all us red blooded males far too excited with that vision. You can be such a ratbag at times...:clap:


You should be required to do nothing. You should be properly informed, educated and allowed to make your own decisions.

My view exactly. Only thing is, people in higher places seem to think we should ALL pay more for the privilege.

[miloking]

:gob: in a natural pocket :innocent:

Hmm...would be quite unpleasant to keep it there! but the look on the cops face after you pass it to him for licence check would be priceless...

[avgas]

I disagree with all the comments made.
ACC has no increased due to people wearing the wrong gear. It has increased due to them surviving crashes these days.

Now if we made helmets non-compulsory. The ACC levy would decrease and gene pool would get a bit brighter.

All your going to do by making ATGATT compulsory is make our ACC levy worse and bubble wrap morons so they live/ride longer. I would rather they just learnt the lesson or died.

[avgas]

You should be required to do nothing. You should be properly informed, educated and allowed to make your own decisions.
Should say:
You should be required to do nothing. Learn or die trying

[jellywrestler]

Gold - right there. For real? Us gals can go commando? That just brings a whole new level of fun to summer riding. :moon:
I've got a friend when she rides moans of helmet hair, think I'm lost for words here.




Not really let's make it a caption contest with words eh?

[swbarnett]

ACC has increased has increased due to them surviving crashes these days.
While tue I think the greater factor in the increase of ACC levies is ACC's creative accounting and the gullible public that actually believe it.

[Skinon]

Stop feeding these trolls.

I'm sick of these hypocrites jizzing over ATGATT and complaining about other people increasing their levies, AND THEN riding like twats and crashing.

Eg.



FUCK OFF!

I haven't crashed yet. And because it's one of my legal fuckin rights to be judged by my pairs instead of by some 50+ year old fucken child molesting rapist fuckhead judge, i will use that right! Especially since none of these charges etc have anything to do with driving offences.

So you sir can eat a big steaming bowl of dick.

[jasonu]

The girl riding her scooter to work in the city has little need for a full leather suit either.

Until she falls off that is...

[Berries]

And because it's one of my legal fuckin rights to be judged by my pairs.
Is that a pair of CE approved leather trousers or just normal jeans ?

[jafar]

Until she falls off that is...

That's IF she falls off surely & to be fair the chances are fairly low of that happening.

[Skinon]

Is that a pair of CE approved leather trousers or just normal jeans ?

Leather ones, with kevlar inserts incase someone shoots at me of course.