These individuals are presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.

[ManDownUnder]

That's what it says at the top of the page, naming, shaming and giving out all information required to track them down in the whitepages online...

http://www.chicagopolice.org/ps/list.aspx

It kinda goes against the innocent till proven guilty thing though... maybe more freedom of speech?

Aaaaa bless 'em - it's the greatest country on earth. (Just ask - they'll tell ya!)
MDU

[Lou Girardin]

We're not far behind. There's a bill before Parliament to allow confiscation of assets gained through crime. Sounds fair enough really.
Except that there needn't be a conviction, just "the balance of probablities" as in civil cases that the the goods came from crime.
Courts can be so inconvienient, can't they. Having to PROVE that people are criminals.

[ManDownUnder]

We're not far behind. There's a bill before Parliament to allow confiscation of assets gained through crime. Sounds fair enough really.
Except that there needn't be a conviction, just "the balance of probablities" as in civil cases that the the goods came from crime.
Courts can be so inconvienient, can't they. Having to PROVE that people are criminals.

Not good...

[Big Dave]

That's enough of talking about me.
Let's talk about you.
What do you think of me?


I don't know enough swear words to comply.

[Lou Girardin]

I don't know enough swear words to comply.

You've only just noticed?
Anyway, Spud has used them all already.

[Winston001]

Thats a bit extreme. These guys haven't even been convicted yet. The NZ Police a few years ago started publishing photos of habitual offenders ie. guys with plenty of convictions, and had to cancel the idea. Breach of privacy. The idea was to inform the public but we can't have everyone knowing about openly convicted criminals. :weird:

[surfchick]

ggeeeess what do dey put in da water over there in the states- those guys look waaaaay older than their ages.

[AngryGuy]

c my post inda underage prossie thred

its not fukn fare i say
every1 deservs to get sum even if u do have 2 pay 4 it
i seen the sho cops on tv and i fukn hate those sting cops
wish the sting would go wrong, and those cops would get whats commin to them

[ManDownUnder]

Thats a bit extreme. These guys haven't even been convicted yet. The NZ Police a few years ago started publishing photos of habitual offenders ie. guys with plenty of convictions, and had to cancel the idea. Breach of privacy. The idea was to inform the public but we can't have everyone knowing about openly convicted criminals. :weird:

It's interesting as that's the opposide side of the argument (and equally wrong in my opinion...)

If they're a threat to me and mine - I want to know about. I'd say I'm entitled to know about it. If they did something and they've been proven guilty... then yeah, tell people.

But with the Chicago thing - it makes it harder to get unbiased jurors for the case...

... and how do the cops say sorry/compensate to those they've been wrong about?

MDU

[spudchucka]

You've only just noticed?
Anyway, Spud has used them all already.
C'mon Lou, what have I done to piss you off lately? (more than usual I mean)

Opps, piss is a swear word isn't it?

Crap, there I go again, swearing!

Oh shit I can't help myself, I'm a swear-a-holic!

What the fuck can I do do to help me stop swearing?

Maybe I have that god damned toooRetts syndrome.

Buggershitfuckcuntpantspoospissfuckityfuckenfucked fuckersfucked!

[Skyryder]

C'mon Lou, what have I done to piss you off lately? (more than usual I mean)

Opps, piss is a swear word isn't it?

Crap, there I go again, swearing!

Oh shit I can't help myself, I'm a swear-a-holic!

What the fuck can I do do to help me stop swearing?

Maybe I have that god damned toooRetts syndrome.


Buggershitfuckcuntpantspoospissfuckityfuckenfucked fuckersfucked!


There are times when you simply crack me up. :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Tried giveing you some rep on this but got a message that I should be 'spreading it around'. Now some might thing that I am a Bi cur but for the record I am definatley not a Bi.

Skyryder

[Winston001]

... and how do the cops say sorry/compensate to those they've been wrong about?

MDU

And therein lies a fundamental misunderstanding about the judicial system. The media stupidly report that Michael Jackson was found "innocent". Nonsense! He was found "not guilty" which means "not proven beyond reasonable doubt". That isn't innocence, except that we are all presumed innocent until convicted. This is a legal conceit but accepted by our society as necessary to avoid the assumption of guilt.

It is extremely rare for police to pay costs for a wrongful prosection. Because almost always they have a strong enough case to bring to Court.

The Labour Government under Norman Kirk gave automatic suppression of name until conviction. But that only lasted a short time and there have been no public calls to reintroduce this. Personally I think names should be suppressed. Once you are publicly accussed the mud sticks, despite acquittal.