Boycott Mobil and BP

[Laava]

Got e-mailed this today and , yes, I am aware that last time round it was BP only but this would actually work if it could be co-ordinated. Thoughts and comments?


Subject: Petrol prices - please read to the end...






Please see what you think and pass it on if you agree with it.

We are hitting $2.15 a litre in some areas now and soon we will be faced with paying $2.50 per litre. So Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:

This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain day campaign' that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea, has come up with a plan that can really work.

Please read it and join in!

Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS - not sellers control the market place. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the idea:

For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one) i.e.Mobil and BP.


If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Mobil and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!!

Now, don't wimp out on me at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!

I am sending this note to a lot of people. If all of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)....and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on. By the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it.....

THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!

Again, all YOU have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all (and not buy at Mobil/BP). How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.

PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES It's easy to make this happen. Just forward this email, and buy your petrol at either Shell, Gull, Caltex, etc. i.e. Boycott BP and Mobil.

[Crasherfromwayback]

the owner of a Shell Station??

[firefighter]

Done, good idea hopefully it works.

[Laava]

the owner of a Shell Station??

Ha ha! I did think that too esp as this is the last line which I left out of the copying!

I KNOW THAT I WILL BUY FROM SHELL FROM NOW ON AS THE OUTLETS ARE NZ OWNED



Ultimately it wouldn't matter who got boycotted to achieve the end result, although there is obviously a downside and that is the owners of the Mobil and BP outlets missing out on income.

[Maha]

Here we have Mobil (which we dont use cos they is idiots) Shell which is old forecourt style service (which we use) and Gull at Snells beach which has cheaper prices, I use it when out there but wouldn't make a special trip just to save 40c.

[Virago]

Have you considered that a large proportion of fuel stations are privately owned, and in such cases any boycott will have little effect on the fuel companies?

These independent outlets have no control over the price of fuel. Their margins are pitifully small. But hey, if it gives you any satisfaction, be the final nail in their coffins - and the jobs they provide.

[Maha]

Have you considered that a large proportion of fuel stations are privately owned, and in such cases any boycott will have little effect on the fuel companies?

These independent outlets have no control over the price of fuel. Their margins are pitifully small. But hey, if it gives you any satisfaction, be the final nail in their coffins - and the jobs they provide.

The only petrol station I have ever seen get pulled down for lack of use was the BP in Rotorua, but then again, the owners skipped town with 10 million dollars.

[george formby]

Getting the Gummint to cut the tax on fuel would make a much bigger difference.

[Taz]

Better Idea - Don't buy any petrol. Now that would show them!

[firefighter]

Have you considered that a large proportion of fuel stations are privately owned, and in such cases any boycott will have little effect on the fuel companies?

These independent outlets have no control over the price of fuel. Their margins are pitifully small. But hey, if it gives you any satisfaction, be the final nail in their coffins - and the jobs they provide.

I understand what you are saying, but, if they are'nt turning over the fuel, then they don't get more in, which in turn does start to effect the companies, that's why it says for a year.

Personally I find Mobil and Gull's fuel makes the bike run funny, maybe it's in my head, probably is. Either way the most convenient petrol station for me is a Shell anyway.

[Laava]

[QUOTE=Virago;1130012700]Have you considered that a large proportion of fuel stations are privately owned, and in such cases any boycott will have little effect on the fuel companies?QUOTE]

Yes I am aware of that but the idea was that ALL BP and Mobil stations would be boycotted, thereby having a massive affect on the fuel companies.
Last time this was tried the net result was bugger all so I'm picking that same thing again TBH.

[Virago]

I understand what you are saying, but, if they are'nt turning over the fuel, then they don't get more in, which in turn does start to effect the companies, that's why it says for a year...

So the independent operators are just collateral casualties, eh? Shut enough of 'em down, the big oil companies might notice eventually...

[jafar]

I usually buy from a local caltex or shell, does this mean I've already started doing the boycott????:cool:

The T/A has also missed that G.A.S stations are supplied by BP......
should these independant operators be disadvantaged as well?:spanking:

Pack n Save fuel is supplied by BP also, should we not shop there too?:nono:

New world discount vouchers are for use @ BP , I'm guessing we should stop buying groceries because of the tie up between them then :devil2:

The last "boycott" had no effect on anyone other than those who inconvenienced themselves trying to boycott a particular brand of petrol. :Pokey:

[Madness]

I'm afraid I'm not going to go without my daily flat white from BP Connect (made by the traditional Hindu barista's) for the cause.

BP Oil N.Z own and operate all Connect sites, BP2GO are privately owned and operated. Mobil (Pegasus Stations Ltd) own & operate the majority of Mobil sites and I'd have no issue with not giving those useless pricks any of my money.

[Kiwi Graham]

BP also supply pac&save.

Who else supplies 98?

[bogan]

alternate theory (doesn't bother donning flame suit cos petrol is to expensive to be used for flaming!) oil companies are exercising economic responsibility, the oil fields are running out, if the price is cheap nobody will bother trying to come up with an alternative. any alternative is likely to require decades to become mainstream, so a price hike and motivation to change our fuel dependency now, is a good thing.

So your boycott should instead change to investment, just give all your money to anybody even remotely associated with alternate fuels ;) Also, for the love of god will you peasants stop breeding, the resources drain across the board is unsustainable :buggerd:

[steve_t]

BP also supply pac&save.

Who else supplies 98?

Mobil Synergy 8000, Gull E10 98

[steve_t]

A good start would be to remove GST from the portion of the fuel price that is tax. Tax on tax is bullshit

[Hitcher]

Yet again another example of a Facebook inspired, poorly thought out, futile waste of time built to inspire those only capable of communicating in emoticons or ticking "like" icons.

[steve_t]

Yet again another example of a Facebook inspired, poorly thought out, futile waste of time built to inspire those only capable of communicating in emoticons or ticking "like" icons.

"Like" :niceone:

[Indiana_Jones]

Yet again another example of a Facebook inspired, poorly thought out, futile waste of time built to inspire those only capable of communicating in emoticons or ticking "like" icons.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slacktivism

Also I go to Shell 95% of the time, purely for the fact they don't make me prepay at fucking 2:15pm in the afternoon unlike the local Mobils and BPs that treat every customer as a kid rapist until they pay...

-Indy

[MIXONE]

Personally I find Mobil and Gull's fuel makes the bike run funny, maybe it's in my head, probably is. Either way the most convenient petrol station for me is a Shell anyway.

Not in your head at all.Both have a small percentage of ethonol? which tends to lean the mixture.Most modern bikes have computers that automatically adjust to the variances in fuels.

[Blackshear]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slacktivism

Also I go to Shell 95% of the time, purely for the fact they don't make me prepay at fucking 2:15pm in the afternoon unlike the local Mobils and BPs that treat every customer as a kid rapist until they pay...

-Indy

Never tried Gull due to 1990 bike and ethalol, had mobil twice - to ensure it wasn't just that days weather - and made bike run shitty.

????
Still use BP.

[steve_t]

Not in your head at all.Both have a small percentage of ethonol? which tends to lean the mixture.Most modern bikes have computers that automatically adjust to the variances in fuels.

Which modern bikes have knock or O2 sensors that can run closed loop and adjust timing/fuel?

I'm pretty sure petrol can only have up to 2% ethanol before they have to call it an ethanol blend. Gull has 10% ethanol blends. Ethanol has a RON of about 109 but a lower calorific value so a tank of E10 won't get you quite as far

[Matt Bleck]

...oh but the pies at BP Express are so good!!! :drool:

[JATZ]

The only petrol station I have ever seen get pulled down for lack of use was the BP in Rotorua, but then again, the owners skipped town with 10 million dollars.

I've seen 3 get shut down here in Mot :(

And I will ceratainly not be buying fuel at BP/Mobil unless I have no other option, the fact it's a 100k round trip to get to either may have a bearing on it too :innocent:

[onearmedbandit]

Getting the Gummint to cut the tax on fuel would make a much bigger difference.

Considering the country is running in deficit (last reports were we were borrowing $250 million per week), how is this achievable without increasing tax elsewhere?

[scracha]

Had this argument with a daftie at the weekend. Boycotting BP is a poorly thought out argument, the only people that would suffer are the forecourt owners and their workers.

BP don't, give a flying fuck if you boycott their petrol stations because there are plenty of other countries who'll gladly buy their fuel. All you're doing is limiting your choice and ultimately increasing the price you pay.

For example,

Say 14 sellers can supply an identical product to 10 buyers, it's a buyers market. The buyer can haggle the price down and all the sellers lower their price to get the sale. This is why oil prices were low in the 70's and 80's.

The the same 14 sellers can supply the identical product, but there's now 14 buyers. There's little room to haggle but there's also little room to gouge the price. This was why oil prices rose steadily in the 90's.

Then the number of buyers keeps increasing. There's now 15 buyers. The buyers start bidding against each other as THEY NEED this product. 1 of the buyers will be disappointed. Straight away, all the sellers can sell their product at a MUCH HIGHER PRICE. This is why oil prices shot up in the naughts.

Then the product gets harder to find. There's only 13 sellers, but now there's 16 buyers. Some of the buyers get hostile with each other as well as the sellers. The price of the product goes ballistic. This is akin to the situation we are at the moment and it'll only get worse.

Why fuel will rise exponentially is economics 101. Consumption of it will keep rising and it'll get harder and harder to find and extract.

Petrol is a commodity in short supply so it's a SELLER's market. So boycott BP if you want to be a fuckin iditiot.

[BMWST?]

Ha ha! I did think that too esp as this is the last line which I left out of the copying!

I KNOW THAT I WILL BUY FROM SHELL FROM NOW ON AS THE OUTLETS ARE NZ OWNED



Ultimately it wouldn't matter who got boycotted to achieve the end result, although there is obviously a downside and that is the owners of the Mobil and BP outlets missing out on income.

and the students and part timers who work there.

[SMOKEU]

I won't buy petrol from BP or Mobil then, but I can still buy my diesel from there, right?

[lone_slayer]

I have always found caltex 95 works best for my bike & car.....
You Have to remember that the petrol stations themselves make nothing out of petrol....
when I use to work at 1 if we had a $20 drive off it took most of the day to make up that loss... And the higher prices get the higher the amount of drive offs. You will never successfully Boycott a NZ petrol station 2 many people have Fuel Cards.. The petrol stations make there money selling the over priced stuff in the shop.

And yes I agree remove GST of Petrol, Tax on Tax is bullshit. Also while your at it remove Tax from NZ fruit, Veg, Meat and Dairy