Followed a young feller on a shit old honda 125, riding like a clown

[JimO]

he ran a red light, then as i was following him he weaved about between two lanes without looking and nearly got squished by a big 4x4, total disregard for what was happening around him. i thought to myself this guy wont last long then tonight on the way home there he was stopped on the side of the road by a copper, hope the cop threw the book at him.

[hayd3n]

he ran a red light, then as i was following him he weaved about between two lanes without looking and nearly got squished by a big 4x4, total disregard for what was happening around him. i thought to myself this guy wont last long then tonight on the way home there he was stopped on the side of the road by a copper, hope the cop threw the book at him.

why not be nice and help him out?

[Virago]

Burn him...!

[JimO]

why not be nice and help him out?

help him out how?? he wasnt just endangering himself he was a menace on the road, if i saw one of my boys riding like that they would be walking, you guys know the bloke that was killed at evansdale at the weekend??

[hayd3n]

help him out how?? he wasnt just endangering himself he was a menace on the road, if i saw one of my boys riding like that they would be walking, you guys know the bloke that was killed at evansdale at the weekend??
well hes someones boy and sounds like he needs a lesson or 2

and nope dont think so, i saw that bike go past work today on a trailer what a mess

[Oblivion]

I hope like hell he gets whats coming to him.

The only time I have ever ran a red light was when there was no traffic, and my bike couldn't trigger the green. Had a look for potential hazards, then went on my merry way.

[JimO]

it was red before he got to it and he accelerated through as much as he could, he had time to stop but didnt, he was lucky the driver on the other side of the intersection didnt have a hair trigger. have to say at least he was wearing good gear unlike the guy on a scooter i saw later with bare feet and no gloves

[Oblivion]

it was red before he got to it and he accelerated through as much as he could, he had time to stop but didnt, he was lucky the driver on the other side of the intersection didnt have a hair trigger. have to say at least he was wearing good gear unlike the guy on a scooter i saw later with bare feet and no gloves

Thats just idiotic.

[Oakie]

why not be nice and help him out?

Doesn't sound like the sort who would accept an offer of help or even believe he needs it. Probably thinks he's the world's greatest rider.

[YellowDog]

I saw a guy in a Holden Vectra today carving through the heavy Southern Motorway traffic like a slalom race.

He passed an unmarked Police car who was in the process of stopping and attempting to save the life of a 111kph driver who was keeping lane and showing respect to other road users.

Nice one guys! Get the low hanging fruit first.

You know it makes sense :no:

[NighthawkNZ]

Doesn't sound like the sort who would accept an offer of help or even believe he needs it. Probably thinks he's the world's greatest rider.

You would be supprised... If people actualy reached out and offered... Instead off telling them they are idiots, wankers and they are temporary NZders... no wounder they don't want to listen...

Try another approach... and again you will be supprised.

[Berries]

have to say at least he was wearing good gear unlike the guy on a scooter i saw later with bare feet and no gloves

Thats just idiotic.
You weren't in Dunedin today, a scorcher.

[hayd3n]

You would be supprised... If people actualy reached out and offered... Instead off telling them they are idiots, wankers and they are temporary NZders... no wounder they don't want to listen...

Try another approach... and again you will be supprised.

yes it can make a difference !!

[marty]

Thats just idiotic.

i reckon. you really need to have a hair trigger right foot off the lights in Auckland

[Oakie]

You would be supprised... If people actualy reached out and offered... Instead off telling them they are idiots, wankers and they are temporary NZders... no wounder they don't want to listen...

Try another approach... and again you will be supprised.

For the guy who perhaps takes the wrong line through a corner, follows to close, or who otherwise puts himself in danger without knowing ... Yes. For the guy who deliberately does shit like accelerating through red lights and weaving through lanes etc ... yes you're right. I would be surprised.

[CookMySock]

You would be supprised... If people actualy reached out and offered... Instead off telling them they are idiots, wankers and they are temporary NZders... no wounder they don't want to listen...:gob: </10 ten chars>

[Banditbandit]

he ran a red light, then as i was following him he weaved about between two lanes without looking and nearly got squished by a big 4x4, total disregard for what was happening around him. i thought to myself this guy wont last long then tonight on the way home there he was stopped on the side of the road by a copper, hope the cop threw the book at him.

Yeah .. I watched some woman on a largish scooter the other day - completely disregarded the roundabout rules and nearly got squished by a 4X4 coming around .. then sat on the wide medium strip passing the queue (wobbling around like she was new to riding) and looking for a place to get back in before the next roundabout (the queue was STOPPED so there was no way back in). Some simple soul took pity on her and let her in when the queue moved ...

These people either learn or die. Unfortunately option two puts up our ACC fees.

[JimO]

You would be supprised... If people actualy reached out and offered... Instead off telling them they are idiots, wankers and they are temporary NZders... no wounder they don't want to listen...

Try another approach... and again you will be supprised.

if i see him again i will point him in your direction

[Katman]

You would be supprised... If people actualy reached out and offered... Instead off telling them they are idiots, wankers and they are temporary NZders... no wounder they don't want to listen...

Try another approach... and again you will be supprised.

Half society's problems originate from when calling a spade a spade fig a fig hoe a hoe became politically (and/or socially) incorrect.

[racefactory]

Was it an old Honda GL145? If so it was probably Renegade Master

[slofox]

why not be nice and help him out?

You mean by running over him and helping him "out" of this world..? :whistle:

[Banditbandit]

Half society's problems originate from when calling a spade a spade became politically (and/or socially) incorrect.

I wonder how many people who say that actually know what "a spade" means ...

[JimO]

I wonder how many people who say that actually know what "a spade" means ...

its a digging implement favoured by gardeners

[Banditbandit]

its a digging implement favoured by gardeners

No, in the phrase "to call a spade a spade" it is not a garden implement

There are lots of arguments on this one ... it does seem to have origins in Ancient Greece, where "to call a fig a fig" meant to speak honestly without beating about the bush" - the commonly accepted meaning of the phrase today.

However, this particular phrase seems to have come to us via early 20th century America where a "spade" was a derogatory term for an American Black ... and "to call a spade a spade" was the prhase used by white racist Americans, especially in the South, reacting against what they saw at the time, but would not have called it that, the shift towafrds political correctness.

Most people use it today to mean to speak honestly, but the particular phrase "to call a spade a spade" is inherently racist.

[Katman]

Most people use it today to mean to speak honestly, but the particular phrase "to call a spade a spade" is inherently racist.

I've edited my post just to keep you happy. :eek:

(Doesn't have quite the same ring to it though).

[imdying]

Most people use it today to mean to speak honestly, but the particular phrase "to call a spade a spade" is inherently racist.Just like humans...

[slofox]

Most people use it today to mean to speak honestly, but the particular phrase "to call a spade a spade" is inherently racist.

I would say "WAS" inherently racist rather than "IS". Modern usage does not carry the racial slur - indeed I doubt many people would know the origin of it as you have so ably outlined to us.

Just my opinion y'know...

[oneofsix]

its a digging implement favoured by gardeners
+1 and so does wikipedia

It is evident that the word spade refers to the instrument used to move earth, a very common tool. The same word was used in England and in Holland, Erasmus' country of origin
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_call_a_spade_a_spade

[Banditbandit]

I've edited my post just to keep you happy. :eek:

(Doesn't have quite the same ring to it though).

Huh ??? Since when did keeping each other happy become a requiremetn of KB???

I appreciate the sentiment, but that was quite unecessary.

[Kickaha]

However, this particular phrase seems to have come to us via early 20th century America where a "spade" was a derogatory term for an American Black ... and "to call a spade a spade" was the prhase used by white racist Americans, especially in the South, reacting against what they saw at the time, but would not have called it that, the shift towafrds political correctness.

Most people use it today to mean to speak honestly, but the particular phrase "to call a spade a spade" is inherently racist.

It was used well before the early 20th century , the word "spade may have been used as a racists term a lot later on but that phrase had nothing racist about it when it was originally used

[Virago]

No, in the phrase "to call a spade a spade" it is not a garden implement

There are lots of arguments on this one ... it does seem to have origins in Ancient Greece, where "to call a fig a fig" meant to speak honestly without beating about the bush" - the commonly accepted meaning of the phrase today.

However, this particular phrase seems to have come to us via early 20th century America where a "spade" was a derogatory term for an American Black ... and "to call a spade a spade" was the prhase used by white racist Americans, especially in the South, reacting against what they saw at the time, but would not have called it that, the shift towafrds political correctness.

Most people use it today to mean to speak honestly, but the particular phrase "to call a spade a spade" is inherently racist.

Absolute rubbish.

The phrase was introduced to English in 1542 in Nicolas Udall's translation of Erasmus, Apophthegmes, that is to saie, prompte saiynges. First gathered by Erasmus:

"Philippus aunswered, that the Macedonians wer feloes of no fyne witte in their termes but altogether grosse, clubbyshe, and rusticall, as they whiche had not the witte to calle a spade by any other name then a spade."

The phrase predates the use of the word "spade" as an ethnic slur against African-Americans, which was not recorded until 1928; however, in contemporary U.S. society, the idiom is often avoided due to potential confusion with the slur - i.e. Political Correctness.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/To_call_a_spade_a_spade

[FJRider]

I wonder how many people who say that actually know what "a spade" means ...

Some just call it like it what it is ... just a fucking shovel.

I wonder how those that suggest "helping the rider out" ... suggest it should have been done ... with both vehicles on the move ... ??

[Katman]

I appreciate the sentiment, but that was quite unecessary.

Meh, who cares? I've edited it again.

(And no, I've got nothing against working girls either).

[JimO]

Some just call it like it what it is ... just a fucking shovel.

I wonder how those that suggest "helping the rider out" ... suggest it should have been done ... with both vehicles on the move ... ??

i could have stopped when the cop had him on the side of the road and entered into a discussion on the merits of his riding that morning, the policeman may have wanted to add something to this as well

[PrincessBandit]

Half society's problems originate from when calling a spade a spade fig a fig hoe a hoe became politically (and/or socially) incorrect.


Meh, who cares? I've edited it again.

(And no, I've got nothing against working girls either).

Some girls seem to have no problem with being called ho. Maybe the missing pre-fix "skanky" has something to do with it :blink:
Speaking of pc bullshit and not being able to speak frankly anymore, it's frustrating writing reports. You end up with some lame sounding, wet bus ticket, limp celery slapping sentence when you really want to say: Your child is a ..... Oh bugger, I can't even manage to type it here!!!!!

[FJRider]

i could have stopped when the cop had him on the side of the road and entered into a discussion on the merits of his riding that morning, the policeman may have wanted to add something to this as well

There are times when you are better to remain ... not in the picture ...

The cop probably saw enough ...

[Virago]

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[Big Dave]

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