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Biff
25th June 2005, 01:09
It's been a while since I've fired a gun, and as much as I;d love to use the type of weapon I'd like to use (H&K MP15) somehow I don't think it'd go down too well.
So - what are the laws here governing shooting those pesky possums? Can I just apply for a gun licence, buy a rifle or shotgun, then go straight out and shoot the little bastards, or are there any specific possum protection laws I should be aware of?
Ta
N4CR
25th June 2005, 01:11
It's been a while since I've fired a gun, and as much as I;d love to use the type of weapon I'd like to use (H&K MP15) somehow I don't think it'd go down too well.
So - what are the laws here governing shooting those pesky possums? Can I just apply for a gun licence, buy a rifle or shotgun, then go straight out and shoot the little bastards, or are there any specific possum protection laws I should be aware of?
Ta
They are pests here... get a liscence/gun and go nuts :D
"H&K MP15" - No semi/full auto guns here though matey!
Biff
25th June 2005, 01:13
"H&K MP15" - No semi/full auto guns here though matey!
But they're sooooo coooool :love: :devil2:
John
25th June 2005, 01:14
Personally I got my guns before the laws all came in, but yea to even buy a gun you need a licence - but still its ok.
Just get your licence and kill the kunts - I dont know specific laws I just used to be sent out to kill possums and rabbits.
edit: get your 'classics' licence and you can handle m14's and shit fucken rocks :Punk:
N4CR
25th June 2005, 01:15
But they're sooooo coooool :love: :devil2:
Very true. Don't wander around to the dairy/bank/police station/anywhere with it though. And most certainly don't go 'nuts' without a silencer.. unwanted attention is not good. 'looks at scumdog' :devil2:
scumdog
25th June 2005, 01:16
If you have a firearms licence get the most accurate .22 you can afford and fit it with a silencer (sound moderator in P.C. language) make sure it shoots straight and go for it.
No firearms licence? Get a grunty .22 calibre air-rifle with scope and go for it - but make sure you go for head shots only. :niceone:
John
25th June 2005, 01:17
If you have a firearms licence get the most accurate .22 you can afford and fit it with a silencer (sound moderator in P.C. language) make sure it shoots straight and go for it.
No firearms licence? Get a grunty .22 calibre air-rifle with scope and go for it - but make sure you go for head shots only. :niceone:
Air rifles require a licence.
I have a bretta at home that was fun for possums.
Couple of shotties, and a 22.
I also have a 1800fps (.177) air-rifle it abliterates ducks.
Biff
25th June 2005, 01:18
Very true. Don't wander around to the dairy/bank/police station/anywhere with it though. And most certainly don't go 'nuts' without a silencer.. unwanted attention is not good. 'looks at scumdog' :devil2:
Silencers are crap on anything above a .22. All that BS you see in the movies where you only hear a "phsst" noise = bollox. Silencers just dull the explosion to a loud thud. Alledgedly. :whistle:
If you have a firearms licence get the most accurate .22 you can afford and fit it with a silencer (sound moderator in P.C. language) make sure it shoots straight and go for it.
No firearms licence? Get a grunty .22 calibre air-rifle with scope and go for it - but make sure you go for head shots only. :niceone:
So legally it's ok just to take a walk (on public land, away from houses, small children etc), tooled up, and just shoot the bstards?
scumdog
25th June 2005, 01:21
But they're sooooo coooool :love: :devil2:
Air rifles only require a licence if you are under 18 years old.
As far as full autos go, you are wanking if you using them as the first shot does the trick (if you are accurate) and the rest decorate the sky and cost you money.
John
25th June 2005, 01:22
Air rifles only require a licence if you are under 18 years old.
As far as full autos go, you are wanking if you using them as the first shot does the trick (if you are accurate) and the rest decorate the sky and cost you money.
oh queer I have no idea about the current laws I ignore them - maybe my step bro was B/s me.
scumdog
25th June 2005, 01:38
oh queer I have no idea about the current laws I ignore them - maybe my step bro was B/s me.
Yeah, in my job I have found that SO many people know the law better than I do, - it's a wonder that lawyers are needed!!
John
25th June 2005, 01:40
Yeah, in my job I have found that SO many people know the law better than I do, - it's a wonder that lawyers are needed!!
sarcasm hurts, only reason I dont know is because I bought my air rifles a long long time ago before that law came in, think I was about 10/9 :\?, and inherited the bretta and shotties and the lame 22 that is a useless POS, some years later.
scumdog
25th June 2005, 01:52
sarcasm hurts, only reason I dont know is because I bought my air rifles a long long time ago before that law came in, think I was about 10/9 :\?, and inherited the bretta and shotties and the lame 22 that is a useless POS, some years later.
Hey biter, not getting at YOU but just passing comment, after a 10 day shift with a whole lotta 'bush-lawyers' and finishing with a shitload of bourboun ya get kinda touchy!
Get a 'good' .22 and 4X40 scope, fit a silencer, get it zeroed at 20 metres with subsonic loads and go for it. If you can afford laser sight so much the better but it isn't a 'cure-all'.
Get a top-notch spotlight that runs off a re-chargeable dry-cell battery and you'll have a ball!! (but the monkeys won't!)
John
25th June 2005, 01:59
Hey biter, not getting at YOU but just passing comment, after a 10 day shift with a whole lotta 'bush-lawyers' and finishing with a shitload of bourboun ya get kinda touchy!
Get a 'good' .22 and 4X40 scope, fit a silencer, get it zeroed at 20 metres with subsonic loads and go for it. If you can afford laser sight so much the better but it isn't a 'cure-all'.
Get a top-notch spotlight that runs off a re-chargeable dry-cell battery and you'll have a ball!! (but the monkeys won't!)
Hehehe, nah Its ok I understand - hey serious question, do you know many of the employment requirements for the police? I asked at a recruitment function if I would have trouble getting in due to being partially color blind, they said they werent sure, I know I cant get into the army or navy :mad:?
On the gun note, I am no longer required on the farm so I havent got any of the big guns with me, I still have the 45. but. Has a red-dot is absolutely the most fun for possum hunting.
N4CR
25th June 2005, 01:59
Get a 'good' .22 and 4X40 scope, fit a silencer, get it zeroed at 20 metres with subsonic loads and go for it. If you can afford laser sight so much the better but it isn't a 'cure-all'.
Get a top-notch spotlight that runs off a re-chargeable dry-cell battery and you'll have a ball!! (but the monkeys won't!)
Used to do this on a rungus hilux.. two spots and one shooter on the tray. Works well.. possums don't seem to be worried by the hilux and neither did the rabbits... And when you can't hit 'em you just run 'em over :D
Biff
25th June 2005, 02:05
Has a red-dot is absolutely the most fun for possum hunting.
Is that the illuminated red dot that appears on the target, or the kind where you keep both eyes open and only see the dot yourself through the sight?
poorbastard
25th June 2005, 02:07
Hey you'll need a gun licence or be with someone who has one not that stops most people anyway. Just apply for one at the cop shop. And you can use whatever gun you want as long as its covered by your licence gunerally a general rifle for basic gun licence. Then just get a gun. a 22 will do and the cheapest but alot more fun with something bigger. Ive got a magnum 22 but every now and then take the 308 or shotgun out to see how much of a hole I can make.
Biff
25th June 2005, 02:11
Welcome Poorbastard. Drink? :drinkup:
John
25th June 2005, 02:12
Is that the illuminated red dot that appears on the target, or the kind where you keep both eyes open and only see the dot yourself through the sight?
The red dot shows up on the target, they are about 200$ and run off small battery you MUST have one if you have a pistol, or automatic rifle. helps your accuracy.
I got it as a present its like this one, but abit smaller (and is on a real gun).
http://www.flatbatt.co.uk/Beretta_gun_p668.jpg
Waylander
25th June 2005, 02:14
Used to have one of these. Different scope but did have the bipod.
http://www.pigeonwatch.co.uk/Remington.jpg
Loved laying prone out by my grandpa's back door taking out cans on the fence 100 yards or so down his ranch.
Edit: Tristank do you realize the last three up-reps I got came from you? Not that I'm complaining lol
scumdog
25th June 2005, 02:21
If you are not worried about silencers (I LOVE a silenced gun) use one of the new .17 rimfires, tons of grunt, straight-line accuracy and little chance of ricochet! (a .22 subsonic will bounce off a tight bra!)
I have used a silenced .44 lever-action, accurate, POWERFUL but oh, what a chunk of lead to launch into the air - and where will it land?
N4CR
25th June 2005, 02:22
Edit: Tristank do you realize the last three up-reps I got came from you? Not that I'm complaining lol
I KNOW. I NEVER PM PEOPLE. I MESSAGE THEM WITH REP AS ITS EASIER THAN CLICKING THROUGH THE BLOODY CONTROL PANEL OR SOME STUPID MENU ON THEIR NAME.
Waylander
25th June 2005, 02:42
I miss my guns. Had some very nice rifles me and my dad used for deer hunting in Mississippi and for range shooting. Loved the outdoor ranges best cause I was always better at the long range shots than him. He always got me when I came to pistols though.
Damn I might have to see about buying myself a good air rifle so I can go hunt some Possum aswell. Know my mom would appretiate it cause she loves the fur. Could jerk the meat aswell, the dog will love it when I get one.
John
25th June 2005, 02:43
I miss my guns. Had some very nice rifles me and my dad used for deer hunting in Mississippi and for range shooting. Loved the outdoor ranges best cause I was always better at the long range shots than him. He always got me when I came to pistols though.
Damn I might have to see about buying myself a good air rifle so I can go hunt some Possum aswell. Know my mom would appretiate it cause she loves the fur. Could jerk the meat aswell, the dog will love it when I get one.
get a .22 at least - air rifles are only fun.
Waylander
25th June 2005, 02:46
get a .22 at least - air rifles are only fun.
Yea, but probably have to start out with one to practice shooting for a while. Been about 4 years since I went range shooting and another 6 since I went hunting. My accuracy probably needs some work.
John
25th June 2005, 02:53
Yea, but probably have to start out with one to practice shooting for a while. Been about 4 years since I went range shooting and another 6 since I went hunting. My accuracy probably needs some work.
plenty of moving targets round NZ, just shoot it if its in the paddock - make sure its not a P monkey but.
Skyryder
25th June 2005, 03:27
So legally it's ok just to take a walk (on public land, away from houses, small children etc), tooled up, and just shoot the bstards?
Don't think it is. I spend a lot of time on river beds fishing and hear gunfire. I know a lot of shooters go after rabbits on riverbeds but I doubt if it is legal without a permit. Private land with permission for both rabbits and possums would be the way to go. I use a shot gun on both.
Skyryder
sAsLEX
25th June 2005, 07:03
"H&K MP15" - No semi/full auto guns here though matey!
rubbish, but you aint allowed MSA, military styled auto or something on your standard license
all you need is a car battery in a back pack a nice bright torch and a 22, we had a gevarm semi 22 that would get the buggers, so much nicer when they just stopped and looked back at the bright light
Pixie
25th June 2005, 09:58
Silencers are crap on anything above a .22. All that BS you see in the movies where you only hear a "phsst" noise = bollox. Silencers just dull the explosion to a loud thud. Alledgedly. :whistle:
So legally it's ok just to take a walk (on public land, away from houses, small children etc), tooled up, and just shoot the bstards?
Silencers only work with subsonic ammo
Jackrat
25th June 2005, 10:09
You could consider useing a bow.
You don't need a big money compound bow,I do all my rabbit,possum an goat shooting with a longbow.
You often get a better reception from land owners carrying a bow rather than a rifle.
It's just another option,I actualy have a fair collection of rifles as well.
Our gun laws are pretty easy to live with and just require common sence.
Good luck what ever you do.
geoffm
25th June 2005, 10:58
Air rifles require a licence.
I have a bretta at home that was fun for possums.
Couple of shotties, and a 22.
I also have a 1800fps (.177) air-rifle it abliterates ducks.
Not yet they don't. You have to be over 18, or 16 with a firearms license.
This is going to change soon with the new Arms mmendment Act that is in select committee at present, so that air rifles over a certain velocity are classed as firearms.
1800fps for an air rifle is..unlikely unless it is something pretty special. That is supersonic speeds, and you start getting interesting effects with air through an orifice then. I can dig out the cronograph if you want to test it.
Geoff
Virago
25th June 2005, 11:08
I enjoy a bit of shooting myself, mainly rabbits (plenty of opportunity around Otago).
I've had a huge variety of guns over the years, but after a while it's only the really useful work-horse guns that get taken out.
I have a Brno model 2 Bolt action .22 Rifle, 5-shot magazine, with a 3-9x40 variable power scope on it. I can head-shoot rabbits cleanly out to 100m in the right conditions - it is so accurate the only limiting factor is my shooting skills. I rigged up a scope-mounted spotlight (just an old style car spotlight, 50watt Hella), and hook it up to a 7 Ah sealed lead-acid battery, which gives about an hour and a half of continuous running. Great fun on the possums.
For sheer fun, I enjoy using a shotgun for rabbits. I've got a really nice English 12G double gun by WW Greener, which I can shoot with passably well. I'm probably a better rifle shot that a shotgunner.
For real fun I get out after rabbits with my brother. He takes my Brno .22, and walks through the paddocks, while I walk the fence-line with the shotgun. He picks off the sitting rabbits, while I get good sport at the running ones, heading for the fence / tree line.
Where to shoot? You need permission to shoot anywhere, and these days private farm land is the best option. It's a case of asking around really. My neighbour's sister and brother-in-law give me permission to shoot on their farm near Luggate in Central Otago.
I've had my share of semi-auto guns, and reckon you don't get any more game with them, you just burn through the ammo a hell of a lot faster.
Getting a gun licence isn't as easy as it used to be, but it's no problem for most people. My daughter just got her licence. You need to satisfy the following criteria:
1) A reason for wanting to own or use guns, ie hunting, target shooting. If you are silly enough to say self-defence then you can expect to have your application declined!
2) Two referees, one related to you and one not, who will be questioned about your suitability for firearms ownership. They don't have to be firearms licenced themselves.
3) Suitable firearms storage facilities, ie secure gun cabinet.
4) You will need to attend a firearms safety course (takes a couple of hours), and pass a written safety test afterwards.
5) Cost is roughly $100 from memory.
TraD_MaN
25th June 2005, 11:08
You could consider useing a bow.
You don't need a big money compound bow,I do all my rabbit,possum an goat shooting with a longbow.
You often get a better reception from land owners carrying a bow rather than a rifle.
It's just another option,I actualy have a fair collection of rifles as well.
Our gun laws are pretty easy to live with and just require common sence.
Good luck what ever you do.
double that about the bow, i spent $2200 to set up my bow :love: worth every cent thoe, but not realy needed :weird:
geoffm
25th June 2005, 11:15
It's been a while since I've fired a gun, and as much as I;d love to use the type of weapon I'd like to use (H&K MP15) somehow I don't think it'd go down too well.
So - what are the laws here governing shooting those pesky possums? Can I just apply for a gun licence, buy a rifle or shotgun, then go straight out and shoot the little bastards, or are there any specific possum protection laws I should be aware of?
Ta
Where are you going to use it. The middle of the smoke is not a good idea...
I also use a good, large spotlight, powered by a motorcycle gel cell.
The other way is traps. Get the Timms traps - kills them dead, and they work very well.
Lots of choices of guns around - IMO the CZ452 (aka Brno model 2) and Anshutz are amongs the best. I also have a Norinco (Chinese) copy of the Browning take down - unscrews in half and hten fits into the Beemer panniers :-)
All the requirements are on the police website (www.police.govt.nz). Call in to the Arms Officer in the central Chch police station. Most of my dealings with the Arms Officer cops have been pretty good over the years and they are always keen to help. You will need secure storage. A safe or secure cabinet is best, but for shotguns and rifles, a lock up rack is a minimum. I have made them before, so if you need one, drop me a line. Will work for beer...
Geoff
(In Christchurch at present...)
inlinefour
25th June 2005, 11:17
SLR was a great weapon as the possums kind of "disappeared" after hitting them. Prior to possums being worth something we used .22, gin, or Transit Van with steal pole to finish them off. However the biggest laugh I ever got was shooting one with the SLR the first time. However when the laws regarding semi-autos changed it was decided to hand in the rifles and licience to the Police and I've never fired a weapon since (gee that was along time ago) :weird:
WINJA
25th June 2005, 11:45
If you have a firearms licence get the most accurate .22 you can afford and fit it with a silencer (sound moderator in P.C. language) make sure it shoots straight and go for it.
No firearms licence? Get a grunty .22 calibre air-rifle with scope and go for it - but make sure you go for head shots only. :niceone:
YEAH SCUMMYS RIGHT I GOT THE GAMO SHADOW 1000 .22 AIR RIFLE AND IT DOES 1000 FPS ON 177 BUT I GOT THE 22 AT 850 FPS I BAGGED MY 6TH POSSUM THE OTHER DAY , HEAD SHOTS ARE EASY AND I GET MOST KILLS IN 1 OR 2 SHOTS , IVE ACTUALLY HAD BETTER LUCK WITH THE AIR RIFLE THAN A SHOTGUN CAUSE I CAN GET 1 SHOT THRU THE HEAD AT DISTANCE.AND AT $16 FOR 500 SHOTS ITS CHEAP AND QUIET, DONT GET THE 177
PLEASE DONT SHOOT PUKEKOS
sAsLEX
25th June 2005, 12:12
AND AT $16 FOR 500 SHOTS ITS CHEAP AND QUIET, DONT GET THE 177
PLEASE DONT SHOOT PUKEKOS
yeah dad has a Winchester 38.40 model 1892 and the rounds for that are about 2 bucks each, nice guns to shoot with, and even has a saddle ring so the real southern men could hook it on to their horses
Jackrat
25th June 2005, 12:47
Silencers only work with subsonic ammo
I have one on a .22
It works better with subs,but it works just fine with CCI stingers as well.
Nelson Collie made them for centerfires an they also work well.
They only work for Sub's is an old wives tale.
mini_me
25th June 2005, 13:38
like everyone else has said...
get a good .22 bolt action (a toz or a voirre (sp)) and fit it with a decent scope and suppressor and go crazy...not literally tho.
http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Hunting-shooting/Rifles/auction-29587801.htm
that one would be ideal....
m/m
sAsLEX
25th June 2005, 13:50
They only work for Sub's is an old wives tale.
which would have to be a true wives tale, sure it may muffle the sound a little with a supersonic bullet, but you will still get the distinctive crack from the bullet breaking the sound barrier
WINJA
25th June 2005, 13:55
which would have to be a true wives tale, sure it may muffle the sound a little with a supersonic bullet, but you will still get the distinctive crack from the bullet breaking the sound barrier
THIS WILL BE ANOTHER 177 VS 22 AIRGUN DEBATE
sAsLEX
25th June 2005, 14:00
THIS WILL BE ANOTHER 177 VS 22 AIRGUN DEBATE
no debate a fact of life!
WINJA
25th June 2005, 14:04
no debate a fact of life!
I KNOW FUCK ALL ABOUT GUNS TO ME ITS JUST ANOTHER TOOL AND I GOT THE CHEAPEST ONE TO DO THE JOB
sAsLEX
25th June 2005, 14:07
I KNOW FUCK ALL ABOUT GUNS TO ME ITS JUST ANOTHER TOOL AND I GOT THE CHEAPEST ONE TO DO THE JOB
just like your taste in bikes
and its not gun knowledge it basic physics
mini_me
25th June 2005, 14:17
there is no way to dampen the 'sonic boom' that a bullet makes when it passes through the sound barrier, so having a silencer on whilst firing supers is a total waste of time. IF the object of the silencer was to make you 'stealthy' and unobtrusive, however having a silencer on would make pinpointing the exact location of the person firing harder (remebering that you would still know the direction they are firing from so pointless for hunting as the targets would know which direction to run & hide in)
Paul in NZ
25th June 2005, 14:19
Gah! No you are NOT usually allowed to wander around public land 'tooled up' unless you have a hunting permit, you are in the army or the police or your name is Tame Iti ... Local DOC office would be the best place to ask.
Also, I'm not sure of the status now but you never used to be allowed shotguns, rimfire or gas operated (air rifles) in National Parks except under special conditions (you were a contracted pest control officer etc).
But I'd check before doing much wandering about 'tooled up' unless you like discussing urgent matters with excitable men in black overalls, flack jackets and impressive boots.
Paul N
ps - Generally - PLEASE kill as many of the filthy things as you can by whatever means you can. It should be a matter of pride for every NZ'r to kill as many as they can.
scumdog
25th June 2005, 14:50
Silencers only work with subsonic ammo
Well, (PEDANT ALERT) they will still muffle the muzzle blast, it is only the sonic boom of the bullet they don't muffle.
Next time you are out with a .22 that's silenced try this: fire two shots straight up in the air (in a safe direction of course!) using one subsonic bullet and one supersonic bullet, you won't really know the difference.
The sonic boom effect only works when there is a nearby surface i.e. the ground.
The animals don't hear the sound of the gunfire regardless is you use super or subsonic bullets but they MAY hear the sonic boom - not so bad if shooting across gullies as the bullet is not close to the ground.
sAsLEX
25th June 2005, 15:04
The sonic boom effect only works when there is a nearby surface i.e. the ground.
The animals don't hear the sound of the gunfire regardless is you use super or subsonic bullets but they MAY hear the sonic boom - not so bad if shooting across gullies as the bullet is not close to the ground.
yeah sitting in the butts of the firing range you can hear it crack thump as the bullets come over head and slam in to the bank.
Jackrat
25th June 2005, 15:54
which would have to be a true wives tale, sure it may muffle the sound a little with a supersonic bullet, but you will still get the distinctive crack from the bullet breaking the sound barrier
I shoot across a gully behind my house.
My wife can't hear a thing on the other side of the house.
From a .22 your distintive crack is a slight pop at worst.
The same goes for a mates moderated 308,he down loads to around 2000fps,useing 30/30 projectiles, still above sub speeds, an you won't hear it at all if your both on oppersite sides of a ridge.
Of course they work best with sub's, but to say moderators ONLY work on subs is wrong,there's just so much more to it than that.
If that's not pedantic enough for you,we can always get togeather some time an bore the crap out of anybody silly enough to listen with ballistic theorys.
Havn't had a good 308 is best argument for a while now. :msn-wink:
scumdog
25th June 2005, 16:41
Havn't had a good 308 is best argument for a while now. :msn-wink:
Goes without saying! I bought my Sako 308 lever-action new in 1973, cost me $239 back then and it's all I have ever needed from wallabys to thar, I know that rifle better than the back of my hand.
Got other rifles but the old Sako is my No1 gun.
Jackrat
25th June 2005, 16:46
Goes without saying! I bought my Sako 308 lever-action new in 1973, cost me $239 back then and it's all I have ever needed from wallabys to thar, I know that rifle better than the back of my hand.
Got other rifles but the old Sako is my No1 gun.
Sako A1 here,$800 second hand in 82.
Cost around $2500 to replace today.
Feel the same way as you do.
John
25th June 2005, 17:32
Not yet they don't. You have to be over 18, or 16 with a firearms license.
This is going to change soon with the new Arms mmendment Act that is in select committee at present, so that air rifles over a certain velocity are classed as firearms.
1800fps for an air rifle is..unlikely unless it is something pretty special. That is supersonic speeds, and you start getting interesting effects with air through an orifice then. I can dig out the cronograph if you want to test it.
Geoff
Hey Its like this model here http://www.crosman.com/site/listing/1218 with some really crazy springs in it, they stopped making it, it was one of the more/most powerful spring driven air-guns, they come out with 1300fps IIRC, I got is springed and the claimed to have put in an incredibly powerfull spring that would be able (being the keyword I guess) to push about 1800fps - but you know how stuff is exaggerated, but from experience I would say it would be about ~/+1500fps, I also shoved on a nice winchester scope on it 20X x 50mm.
All I know is it has better range than my old .22 (which was a hunk of crap, no one ever looked after it.).
I still want to go buy an winchester X2 Shotty, I had a wee play with one and fark! makes all my other tools looks lame.
WINJA
25th June 2005, 17:57
just like your taste in bikes
and its not gun knowledge it basic physics
IF THATS YOUR BIKE IN THE PROFILE PIC :rofl: :rofl: YOUR TASTE IS WORSE THAN MINE
Velox
25th June 2005, 18:51
Just remember that if you're planning on hunting in Nat Parks, you can't use a .22 anyway (or, I assume, a shotgun either). The best bet would be to get to know some local land owners who'd let you hunt their place.
Go for it with the possums though! If you pluck them you get about $3 each which works out really good considering it only takes a minute or two. You get lots more for the skins but I find it's way more of a hassle.
I think it's way too easy to get a gun licence at the mo! Anyone can whip up a lockable cupboard and get a mate and a family member to vouch for them. And you don't have to be a rocket scientist to pass the test.
crazylittleshit
25th June 2005, 18:53
Just remember that if you're planning on hunting in Nat Parks, you can't use a .22 anyway (or, I assume, a shotgun either). The best bet would be to get to know some local land owners who'd let you hunt their place.
Go for it with the possums though! If you pluck them you get about $3 each which works out really good considering it only takes a minute or two. You get lots more for the skins but I find it's way more of a hassle.
I think it's way too easy to get a gun licence at the mo! Anyone can whip up a lockable cupboard and get a mate and a family member to vouch for them. And you don't have to be a rocket scientist to pass the test.
Are you going to vouch for me velox."THANKS"
Just remember that if you're planning on hunting in Nat Parks, you can't use a .22 anyway (or, I assume, a shotgun either). The best bet would be to get to know some local land owners who'd let you hunt their place.
Go for it with the possums though! If you pluck them you get about $3 each which works out really good considering it only takes a minute or two. You get lots more for the skins but I find it's way more of a hassle.
I think it's way too easy to get a gun licence at the mo! Anyone can whip up a lockable cupboard and get a mate and a family member to vouch for them. And you don't have to be a rocket scientist to pass the test.
Oh me too :D
John
25th June 2005, 18:54
Are you going to vouch for me velox."THANKS"
I'm not allowed to own a gun 'aparently' I'm to 'unstable' to get the licence O_O - due to some history ... pisses me off so much, So I just buy them off dodgy farmers :devil2:.
I'll vouch for you but :love: what am I vouching for as such :rofl:
crazylittleshit
25th June 2005, 18:56
Ya we can all have guns..............................
Lets play tag........................ :whistle:
Jackrat
25th June 2005, 19:03
I'm not allowed to own a gun 'aparently' I'm to 'unstable' to get the licence O_O - due to some history ... pisses me off so much, So I just buy them off dodgy farmers :devil2:.
I'll vouch for you but :love: what am I vouching for as such :rofl:
You buy what off dodgy farmers ??
Aitch
26th June 2005, 22:12
And despite the fact taht shooting the buggers is decidedly satisfying, the best way to deal to them is poison. but of course you need a licence for that tooo
Timber020
26th June 2005, 23:15
You cant shoot in national parks in the same way that you cant speed on NZ roads. We tramped alot of tracks around the country and used to come across alot of possums so we did what we had to to take care of them as a national pest. A heavily sportserized 410 or .22 did the job as generally it was close range stuff.
The best thing to shoot from is a Quad with an oversized battery. You can run 2 spotlights and have up to 4 shooters (but your not going to go very quickly). We usually had a couple .22's a shotty and a 22/250 in case we saw something big worth bagging. We hunted on a farm that hadnt seen hunters for years and got over 500 possums (we ran out of bullets).
Used to trap and bait them for skins when I was a kid, good money at the time for a 13 year old.
Shoot them, poison them, trap them, run them over, feed them dehydrated apples (then you can just kick em to death). Do what ever you have to but KILL AS MANY AS YOU CAN. I hate hate hate those furry little fuckers.
WINJA
26th June 2005, 23:26
You cant shoot in national parks in the same way that you cant speed on NZ roads. We tramped alot of tracks around the country and used to come across alot of possums so we did what we had to to take care of them as a national pest. A heavily sportserized 410 or .22 did the job as generally it was close range stuff.
The best thing to shoot from is a Quad with an oversized battery. You can run 2 spotlights and have up to 4 shooters (but your not going to go very quickly). We usually had a couple .22's a shotty and a 22/250 in case we saw something big worth bagging. We hunted on a farm that hadnt seen hunters for years and got over 500 possums (we ran out of bullets).
Used to trap and bait them for skins when I was a kid, good money at the time for a 13 year old.
Shoot them, poison them, trap them, run them over, feed them dehydrated apples (then you can just kick em to death). Do what ever you have to but KILL AS MANY AS YOU CAN. I hate hate hate those furry little fuckers.
DEHYDRATED APPLES?
Timber020
27th June 2005, 00:17
Used to get them in army rat packs. Leave em out, possums eat them and I guess the apple absorbs water and swells in there stomachs. They certainly dont sound well. We found a few lying around our bivys panting and groaning and not being able to move to quick. Liberal application of army boots, job done!
Velox
27th June 2005, 11:21
DEHYDRATED APPLES?
What a waste! Noooooooo!!!!!
I love dehydrated apples (the type you get from the pick'n'mix at the supermarket anyway), maybe that's a diff type. Almost as good as whole dehydrated bananas coated in chocky! MMmmmmm.
mikey
27th June 2005, 12:06
PLEASE DONT SHOOT PUKEKOS
last week driving down a few back roads to the naki beaches the fucking gekos kept throwing themselves in front of the pajero..... made a bit of a mess on the bumper but lucky theres bull bars.... an what the fuck are pukekos doing out at night? they like spot lights to.
guns eh....
best possum / rabbit / duck... did i say that? / gun crazy im a american/ eating machine is my semi auto ruger. not that i know anyone with one.... i occaisonally put use to the mag that holds fifty fucking bullets!!!!!!yeah thats right double banana mag, was offered 50 bucks for it as they are banned now...
or the lee enfield 303 with kill marks on it from ww2? seems to do the job to but tad more expensive on bulletds
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