How do you react after being cut off?

[over5tayer]

Already covered - yes i know. But how do you react when an Altezza cuts you off?

EDIT: yes, these videos are lame and i didn't really get cut off - i understand this happens to most people everyday - i've only been recording for 2 weeks so its all the footage i had. The first vid was posted as a demonstration of a reaction, the second was posted just because i had it :).


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[EJK]

I would rev rev rev rev.


..Oh. This thread ought to be good. :corn:

[miloking]

Ok Its official, altezza drivers are dickheads! (or just asians) in both cases explains the lack of mirror usage...

[Latte]

Revving a 250 "in anger" just makes it sound like your bike is broke :yes:

[yachtie10]

That would be called normal driving in asia

[over5tayer]

Revving a 250 "in anger" just makes it sound like your bike is broke :yes:



until they remember that hondas dont break.

[Latte]

until they remember that hondas dont break.

If they're bike riders maybe .......... still not very intimidating winding ujp the sewing machine next to their window.

Try it on a Big Twin, they'll probably spill their Latte ;)

[over5tayer]

still not very intimidating winding ujp the sewing machine next to their window.

Try it on a Big Twin, they'll probably spill their Latte ;)



its louder than you think, the lil microphone doesn't do it justice (carbon fiber muffler + a hole further down) - Wouldnt be surprised if the poor girl just added 'deaf' to her impairment list.

[DrunkenMistake]

I like boy racers who cut me off, because I like to filter beside them at the lights and give them the impression that If we were to race I would never beat them.. then leave them at the lights, Or old people are fun, Ride up beside them and just stare at them.

Though I wouldn't recommend getting angry because you will learn a new kind of rage, called road rage which will cause you to follow someone home and throw your helmet through their windscreen.. As for your situation consider buying an air horn and mounting it under your fairings, you can fit the compressor under the pillion seat ;)

[over5tayer]

consider buying an air horn and mounting it under your fairings ....


I'm surprised you didn't hear the thunderous roar down in Dunedin :yes:. Air horn sounds like a good plan to stealthily hook up to my (1 week learner) friends bike. He's always hitting the horn instead of the indicator :facepalm:.

[Berries]

That would be called normal driving in asia
Looks like fairly normal driving in any urban area to me. "Oh look, the lane next to me is stationary, I wonder which car is going to change lanes in front of me?"

Happens so often that it's not worth getting worked up about. You'll give yourself a heart attack and blow up that intimidating sewing machine.

[Flip]

its louder than you think, the lil microphone doesn't do it justice (carbon fiber muffler + a hole further down) - Wouldnt be surprised if the poor girl just added 'deaf' to her impairment list.

:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme :killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme :killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme:killingme

[Maha]

People who drive Alteezas/Subarus/Skylines and BMWs all come out of the same mold.

[hayd3n]

in the first vid you should of kept to the right hand side of the road you were well oveer to your left(well thats how it looked), and may well have been in his blind spot
2nd video totally agreee the tezza should of waited

[Dave Lobster]

in the first vid you should of kept to the right hand side of the road you were well oveer to your left(well thats how it looked), and may well have been in his blind spot


There's no such thing as a blind spot. It's a too fucking lazy to look properly spot.

[hayd3n]

There's no such thing as a blind spot. It's a too fucking lazy to look properly spot.

that too:yes:

[CookMySock]

Try it on a Big Twin, they'll probably spill their Latte ;)Haha fuck yeah. If they even try it on to begin with.... Loud vtwin = "dont try it on with me sonny boy!"

Quite likely a loud inline four will have similar results. I ride around town in a low gear with about oooooo 5,000rpm on, simultaneously adjusting the loud handle for maximum casualty - works damn fine! Oddly, the pigs have no interest in me which is not what I had thought would happen. I did loudly crackle into a breathlyser checkpoint one day, and the poor stunned mullet with the machine was so intimidated I had to (angrily of course!) instruct him on how to use it, and then I loudly belted off well in excess of the speed limit. :sunny:

But nah I don't get annoyed with traffic. I just slay them.

[schrodingers cat]

Yes but you know the game paper sissor rock?
In this case it is Car, Bike. And guess what? The bike gets to lose EVERY time.

Scarely a chop up in my book, just normal road behaviour. Since we all ride in the real world and not of on the candy floss roads of utopia I suggest an attitude adjustment. If you expect this stuff to happen it is no surprise and you don't get hurt.

XXX

[oneofsix]

First one you were rather left in your lane to see clearly but it appears there is a flash of amber from the tessa's indicator, in which case you were trying to beat the Altessa to the gap and lost. Even if this wasn't the case the sudden lane change from the Altessa was a risk even if you had been a car, their lane had stopped and there was a gap in yours. Not nice but sadly normal in NZ.

Second one the Altessa had just been cut off by the other car and there was a car in your lane, the reason the other driver cut the Altessa off, so there was always the risk the Altessa driver would not be thinking bike and would change into that lane as soon as they were past the car. Bitch they didn't indicate but suspect this was a reaction to the other car cutting them off - two wrongs make a mess, like your reaction in the first video (been there done that :facepalm:).

Both normal driving, take a deep breath, thank your lucky stars they didn't hit you, learn from it and let it go before it negatively affects your riding, as per the first video.

[Luckylegs]

...you were stopping before the car moved in the second one. Perhaps if you'd just kept going youd have been long gone before he changed lanes. Like others have said, these arent really true "cut offs". Fwiw though, since you didnt actually ask us to critique your performance, but rather give an indicationof our reaction, ill usually just yell and swear ( usually into my own helmet) occassionally (very occassionally) theyll get a shake of the head. I reserve engine revving for cyvlists holding me up while splitting

[rastuscat]

Rode up next to a plonker in an XR6 once, after he cut across me on Bealey Ave, Churchur.

Said I "Do you always drive like a dick or is today a special occasion?".

Oddly, no reply.

[Str8 Jacket]

It will most likely happen to you almost everyday. Get used to it and learn to anticipate all drivers moves as they sure as hell aint looking out for us!

[Katman]

The poll results have me strangely gratified.

:love:

[oneofsix]

The poll results have me strangely gratified.

Funny that. How did you manage to vote so many times Katman? Guess another demonstration of why not to trust electronic voting.
Seriously; did the OP do well to avoid being a victim?

[marty]

there's no 'shake my head and thank god I was paying attention and move on' choice

[over5tayer]

in the first vid you should of kept to the right hand side of the road you were well oveer to your left(well thats how it looked), and may well have been in his blind spot


I was sitting just slightly left of the car in fronts right wheel. If you noticed - the camera is on a pretty decent lean (didnt spend enough time setting it up straight) - i think this gives the illusion that i'm more left than i really was. Also when the black tezza started changing (no indicator) i veered to the left a bit more thats why i ended up behind her (asian in her early 20's) left wheel.

When i'm travelling in a lane next to cages i always try set myself up so i can see their face in their wing-mirror, and if i have to pass them i accelerate and make it quick (and loud). I agree i might have been sitting ever so slightly to the left of my lane on this occasion, but fact is if she had checked her mirrors even once in the last minute and thought "hmm wonder if that bikes still there before i pull out" - she wouldnt have changed lanes. Lack of awareness on her part.



...you were stopping before the car moved in the second one. Perhaps if you'd just kept going youd have been long gone before he changed lanes. Like others have said, these arent really true "cut offs".

i know how much cars love to dive into that fresh lane thats been all cleared by a parked car so i was already anticipating someone to jump into it. I just wasnt sure which one it was going to be, hence the reduced speed. For all i knew it could have been the car that cut infront the silver tezza wanting to be back in that lane again. I dont think accerating would have been the right answer to that situation.

i know both of these ones that i got on video aren't "true cut-offs" and would not even be classed as close calls (notice how the first youtube vid is named "minor cut off").

[Banditbandit]

30 years or more ago I would have destroyed the wing morror (of the first one - the second doesn't seem that bad.)

Now, I'd just flip the bird ...

It's not worth getting angry about this ... anger ruins your day - but has no effect on the driver, who doesn't give a shit ...

[phill-k]

Reading this post rather than your first one and assuming what you have written about both situations was how you were assessing the situation at the time I'd say your situational awareness is alive and working, however your reaction in the first vid in undertaking the cars could have coped you a ticket.

Problem with traffic like that if you wish to change lanes you need to move fast or some testosterone filled kiwi will deliberately block you, and cage drivers do not expect other traffic (you) to be moving quicker than the flow, so its up to you to keep out the way not assume you have right away. Scaring the crape out of driver could if they turned towards the noise have you knocked off your bike if you are close as you do this. At the end of the day all that does is prove further that bikers are a bad bunch.


I was sitting just slightly left of the car in fronts right wheel. If you noticed - the camera is on a pretty decent lean (didnt spend enough time setting it up straight) - i think this gives the illusion that i'm more left than i really was. Also when the black tezza started changing (no indicator) i veered to the left a bit more thats why i ended up behind her (asian in her early 20's) left wheel.

When i'm travelling in a lane next to cages i always try set myself up so i can see their face in their wing-mirror, and if i have to pass them i accelerate and make it quick (and loud). I agree i might have been sitting ever so slightly to the left of my lane on this occasion, but fact is if she had checked her mirrors even once in the last minute and thought "hmm wonder if that bikes still there before i pull out" - she wouldnt have changed lanes. Lack of awareness on her part.




i know how much cars love to dive into that fresh lane thats been all cleared by a parked car so i was already anticipating someone to jump into it. I just wasnt sure which one it was going to be, hence the reduced speed. For all i knew it could have been the car that cut infront the silver tezza wanting to be back in that lane again. I dont think accerating would have been the right answer to that situation.

i know both of these ones that i got on video aren't "true cut-offs" and would not even be classed as close calls (notice how the first youtube vid is named "minor cut off").

[Luckylegs]

...i know how much cars love to dive into that fresh lane thats been all cleared by a parked car so i was already anticipating someone to jump into it. I just wasnt sure which one it was going to be, hence the reduced speed. For all i knew it could have been the car that cut infront the silver tezza wanting to be back in that lane again. I dont think accerating would have been the right answer to that situation.

i know both of these ones that i got on video aren't "true cut-offs" and would not even be classed as close calls (notice how the first youtube vid is named "minor cut off").

Lets be clear... I said keep going Not accelerate. The way I read it that would have seen you cruise past the altezza while allowing reaction time should the car in front have done it. This is an not uncommon occurence in Glen Eden on my commute home so I appreciate your approach and like phil-k says, it clearly shows you reading a situation and reacting accordingly to keep yourself out of harms way.

[Brett]

Welcome to riding bikes.

I have had the same happen on the motorway, one lane stopped other lanes still flowing around 60kph and someone decides to pull out from stationary lane into my path...had this happen twice. Both times managed to slow down enough to not hit their backsides.

Had similar things happen on most dual lane roads. Fact is, people don't check their blindspots...if they choose to use their mirrors at all. When I was younger and more hot headed I would respond with aggression, now-days, a simple small toot on the horn will suffice. Doesn't usually change the cunts attitudes anyway.

They usually don't comprehend that if it weren't for my quick evasive manouvre or spotting them before the do something stupid, then I could be in hospital or dead and them facing prosecution for driving offences.

One of the things getting on my nerves at the moment is stupid dipshits who think it is ok to stop on a blind corner and do a u-turn. So far, all have been of oriental persuasion. (rather than this being a racial comment, see it as an obvious deficit in their driving knowledge, clearly they don't seem to comprehend outcomes of their actions??)
My favourite approach with these clowns is to break hard on front picks and tap rear brake while the rear wheel has little to no weight on it and lock it up giving a lovely, loud screech and the false appearance of an impending crash. Scares them a bit, hopefully it might one day stop a real nasty accident...

[DMNTD]

its louder than you think, the lil microphone doesn't do it justice (carbon fiber muffler + a hole further down) - Wouldnt be surprised if the poor girl just added 'deaf' to her impairment list.

LOL....you are taking the piss eh? A heap of 'screaming' and not much going :scooter:

BTW, from what I saw in those vid's...just a normal day in D'auckland's traffic. :yes:
Might is right...sad but true

[superman]

WOT when passing their mirror after they do it (like a little girl :facepalm:) just so they know I'm not happy but that I'm not a psycho... Maybe I should change it to having a riding crop in my left boot with ball bearings attached to the end. Particularly menacing if they have their driver window down :bleh:

[sinfull]

Funny that. How did you manage to vote so many times Katman? Guess another demonstration of why not to trust electronic voting.
Seriously; did the OP do well to avoid being a victim?

What makes you say that ? I voted katman :blink:

Some of us ride/read the situation better than others !
As far as the Op doing well, i beg to differ, thats twice in as many days (?) he's left himself wide open to be nailed by "lane changing, i'm in a hurry to get home, Oh look there's a space," drivers ??
I'f your gonna leave a gap that big in peak hr traffic, of course some prick's gonna move into it !
As for sitting in a position where you can see the driver in the wing mirror goes, that only works if you resemble the grille of a kenworth !
Put money on it that the drivers took a quick glance out their left passenger window when they seen the car in yr lane move forward and went for it !

What would i do if this was happening to me more than i'd like ?
1/ Learn to ride more agressively, cover my brakes and only leave a bike length tween me and the car in front, of course you'd have to be constantly onto it to avoid rear ending them aye and then there is still the chance they will move over anyway and push you into the armco, cause car drivers DON"T see Motorcycles !
Or 2/ let it be and know the fella/asian chick on my right gonna take the space and laugh to yrself, knowing your still gonna crack a beer before they do

[Katman]

Seriously; did the OP do well to avoid being a victim?

Seriously?

I'm still trying to figure out the mentality of someone who posts a video of themselves acting the way they did in the first one. :facepalm:

[superman]

Seriously?

I'm still trying to figure out the mentality of someone who posts a video of themselves acting the way they did in the first one. :facepalm:

Do you have insurance on your bike of any sort?... Just realised if you did that would make you an excellent hippocrite. :yes:

[DMNTD]

Do you have insurance on your bike of any sort?... Just realised if you did that would make you an excellent hippocrite. :yes:

Fire and theft?

[superman]

Fire and theft?

Good point... Fire and theft only would be non-hippocritical :yes:

[Luckylegs]

Do you have insurance on your bike of any sort?... Just realised if you did that would make you an excellent hippocrite. :yes:

Surely im not the only obtuse person here but lets pretend for a minute that I am... What the fuck are you on about???

[superman]

Surely im not the only obtuse person here but lets pretend for a minute that I am... What the fuck are you on about???

Katman... always goes on about how every crash is avoidable. I was wondering if he had insurance on his bike, since he's absolutely 100% he'll never be in a crash due to being epic at avoiding those type of situations (or so he makes out).

[sugilite]

The 1st one is like a symphony, flight of the angry bumble bee.

I usually if possible ride up beside them, make eye contact (if they have any courage) and lift my left hand in a "WTF?" motion.

[steve_t]

One of the things getting on my nerves at the moment is stupid dipshits who think it is ok to stop on a blind corner and do a u-turn. So far, all have been of oriental persuasion. (rather than this being a racial comment, see it as an obvious deficit in their driving knowledge, clearly they don't seem to comprehend outcomes of their actions??)

Maybe they think if it's OK for the cops to do it... :innocent::scooter:

[Katman]

Katman... always goes on about how every crash is avoidable. I was wondering if he had insurance on his bike, since he's absolutely 100% he'll never be in a crash due to being epic at avoiding those type of situations (or so he makes out).

Keep digging.

[Luckylegs]

Katman... always goes on about how every crash is avoidable. I was wondering if he had insurance on his bike, since he's absolutely 100% he'll never be in a crash due to being epic at avoiding those type of situations (or so he makes out).

Oh is that all. Ok, fair enough observation i suppose although id have said he states theyre all avoidable but not that he will always be able to avoid them.

Subtle difference???

[Grubber]

Well i dunno. Can't really see anything worth bitching about to be fair. Car moves over into lane that has a ton of space. Seems ok to me.

[Latte]

Katman... always goes on about how every crash is avoidable. I was wondering if he had insurance on his bike, since he's absolutely 100% he'll never be in a crash due to being epic at avoiding those type of situations (or so he makes out).

Katman's not talking about how the OP avoided the car. He's talking about the attempted intimidation with the revs (and I'm guessing the eeeeeevil stare through the window) etc.

Thing is.... the other car drivers will remember that incident for the biker doing his rag and revving his engine, not for the car driver cutting him off in the 1st place (and like others have said, he's yet to be really cut up by Auckland traffic if those 2 vids are all he has to show for it).

Bridge Building etc......

[Luckylegs]

...he's yet to be really cut up by Auckland traffic if those 2 vids are all he has to show for it)...

Shhhhh dont tell everyone, but thats cos it doesnt happen half as much as we like to think/bleat about.

(based on my experience coming from west and having to split from kelston all the way to the city, i guess others milieage may vary)

[Blinkwing]

Some guy on a black thou with a really loud exhaust went past me on the southern motorway yesterday (SH1 in Auckland) and a bus didn't see him ... I cringed because it looked like the bus was going to crash into him, driver saw him at last minute & swerved back into his lane as well as the rider employing avoidance tactics. :shit:

[Maha]

The poll results have me strangely gratified.

:love:

You're right, seems Katmans Gospel is starting to spreed...:yes:
That reads to me that those who voted, agree with you.

[Latte]

Shhhhh dont tell everyone, but thats cos it doesnt happen half as much as we like to think/bleat about.

(based on my experience coming from west and having to split from kelston all the way to the city, i guess others milieage may vary)

Or is it that when the stuff like those vids happen to you, you've dismissed it before the end of the commute?

I'd say that stuff happens at least once a week for me, but I already "know" it's going to happen so just hang back. No drama, life goes on.

[Katman]

That reads to me that those who voted, agree with you.

Or they're just fucking with my head. :wacko:

[Latte]

Some guy on a black thou with a really loud exhaust went past me on the southern motorway yesterday (SH1 in Auckland) and a bus didn't see him ... I cringed because it looked like the bus was going to crash into him, driver saw him at last minute & swerved back into his lane as well as the rider employing avoidance tactics. :shit:

Sounds like me ...... (after my spiel of knowing when that stuff is going to happen I hope it wasn't). Whereabouts on the Motorway.

[Maha]

Or they're just fucking with my head. :wacko:

You may need an afternoon nap.

[Luckylegs]

Or is it that when the stuff like those vids happen to you, you've dismissed it before the end of the commute?

I'd say that stuff happens at least once a week for me, but I already "know" it's going to happen so just hang back. No drama, life goes on.

I... Think.... We agree. :headbang:

[Latte]

I... Think.... We agree. :headbang:

Let's not, and say we did :D

Of the 3 motorways, the northern is definitely the easiest to split. And we have sure (shore?) girls :P

[Banditbandit]

Seriously?

I'm still trying to figure out the mentality of someone who posts a video of themselves acting the way they did in the first one. :facepalm:

Seriously??? I didn't see anything particularly wrong - or not done well ...

How's you're own demerit points going?

[slofox]

People who drive Alteezas/Subarus/Skylines and BMWs all come out of the same mold.

Now listen here sonny - I drive a Subaru and am certainly NOT out of the same mould as those others you cite! :nono:


As for the poll:

Where is the option for "I shatter their eardrums with the Stebel Magnum"?

Or "I glare at them from behind my dark smoke visor so they think I am some evil scary bastard and not a silly old grampa man on a bike designed for people one third my age..."?

[bogan]

This should be a multi-choice poll, if the 7th one fails, I like to try the first 5 at the same time, then finish off with number 6. :innocent:


People who drive Alteezas/Subarus/Skylines and BMWs all come out of the same mold.

Hey, I drive a BMW every now and then, it's those fucking people movers you gotta watch out for I reckon.


Haha fuck yeah. If they even try it on to begin with.... Loud vtwin = "dont try it on with me sonny boy!"

Quite likely a loud inline four will have similar results.

doubtful, IL4s just don't have the raw aggression of a V-Twin. :shifty:


Or they're just fucking with my head. :wacko:

nah surely not :blink:

[Katman]

How's you're own demerit points going?

Very well thank-you.

Only 10 months to go.

[Banditbandit]

Very well thank-you.

Only 10 months to go.

Good luck .. If I can hold out for another month and a half, 35 points drops to the two-year bracket ... then it's only a three months suspension .. If I can hold out until the end of April, 2012 then I'm back to only 20 points ...

I'm sweating a bit on it ...

[over5tayer]

Well i dunno. Can't really see anything worth bitching about to be fair. Car moves over into lane that has a ton of space. Seems ok to me.

i didn't post the videos to "bitch", i put them as an example of the type of situation that should/shouldn't spark a reaction.




ever had this happen to you? again not that interesting and you cant really see anything from the video. Not too sure what his intentions were - think he might have been going to smash some guy across the street. I saw his left arm come up and assumed i was about to be clotheslined


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[TZR]

over5tayer - how'd you mount your camera and what to?
and i find that steel caps come in handy for booting the door, people normally pull back when they think they've hit ya

[Latte]

Not sure if it's the camera angle missing the "action", but watching the 3rd video looks like he's just nipping across the road, I'd do the same thing heading to the dairy etc. His arms were by his side every frame I managed to pause on, and he didn't look menacing.

But things always look different on Camera (Like Rodney Kings wee chat with the law).

[dodgyguy]

I dunno - it could be the camera angle or something but it didnt look THAT bad......

[over5tayer]

over5tayer - how'd you mount your camera and what to?
and i find that steel caps come in handy for booting the door, people normally pull back when they think they've hit ya


I'll post some pics up of my camera setup when i get home from uni. You can buy the camera's from trademe for real cheap: Camera (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Video-cameras/Video-cameras/auction-363476366.htm), SD Card (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Memory-cards/SD-media/4G/auction-362714939.htm)

[Latte]

I dunno - it could be the camera angle or something but it didnt look THAT bad......

Shouldn't you be working :p

[Latte]

I'll post some pics up of my camera setup when i get home from uni. You can buy the camera's from trademe for real cheap: Camera (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Video-cameras/Video-cameras/auction-363476366.htm), SD Card (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Memory-cards/SD-media/4G/auction-362714939.htm)

It's actually really good footage considering it's a 10th of the price of Go Pro etc. Certainly the quality isn;t there (although that might be Youtube a bit) but you can make everything out fine. What's the sound like (at work so mute is on).

[baptist]

Yes but you know the game paper sissor rock?
In this case it is Car, Bike. And guess what? The bike gets to lose EVERY time.

Scarely a chop up in my book, just normal road behaviour. Since we all ride in the real world and not of on the candy floss roads of utopia I suggest an attitude adjustment. If you expect this stuff to happen it is no surprise and you don't get hurt.

XXX

It's Auckland, that looks like normal driving.


You're right, seems Katmans Gospel is starting to spreed...:yes:
That reads to me that those who voted, agree with you.

The "good news" of Katman aye..uuummmmmm the Brain Tamaki of road safety do you think? :laugh:

Or they're just fucking with my head. :wacko:

You beat me too it yourself, I was gonna say they are taking the piss!!!!!:innocent:

[TZR]

I'll post some pics up of my camera setup when i get home from uni. You can buy the camera's from trademe for real cheap: Camera (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Video-cameras/Video-cameras/auction-363476366.htm), SD Card (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Electronics-photography/Memory-cards/SD-media/4G/auction-362714939.htm)
.................................................. ...............

cheers

[DMNTD]

. What's the sound like (at work so mute is on).

Sounds terrible....something along the lines of a baby IL4 screaming its head off at 50kmph :sunny:

[over5tayer]

Not sure if it's the camera angle missing the "action", but watching the 3rd video looks like he's just nipping across the road, I'd do the same thing heading to the dairy etc. His arms were by his side every frame I managed to pause on, and he didn't look menacing.

But things always look different on Camera (Like Rodney Kings wee chat with the law).


yea i agree, the camera doesn't really show anything. His facials gave the "i'm gonna kill you cuz im on P" impression and in my mental image when i watch the video thats what i see. Ive only been recording for around 2 weeks so i don't really have anything noteworthy to show yet :)

[Swoop]

When i'm travelling in a lane next to cages i always try set myself up so i can see their face in their wing-mirror

Be careful doing that as on the left hand side of a car you may be completely in their blind spot. Mirrors are just a decoration on NZ'ers cars...
On the right hand side, being in their wing mirror and also in rear-view mirror isn't a bad idea and also gives you an "out" if you have to dodge to the right.

[Smifffy]

I had to watch that 3 times just to be sure. You seem to be doing a great job of hazard identification, and maybe just overdoing the threat assessment bit. Seeing the door open like that though, I may have run a little wider around that car.

I like these vids keep em coming.

[Grasshopperus]

Now listen here sonny - I drive a Subaru and am certainly NOT out of the same mould as those others you cite! :nono:


Yeah, as a subaru-driving, geriatric from Hamilton you're nobody's stereotype :)

[Sable]

I follow them home and shout at them. They don't seem to like it very much :sunny:

[over5tayer]

over5tayer - how'd you mount your camera and what to?


you can probably see everything from the pictures but just in case - velcro super glued to foamy stuff above tacho, velcro on camera, small cuts of 3m strips to get the height adjustment right, rubber band to hold the back down.

Video and sound quality was quite a lot better before i cropped and uploaded to youtube - in saying that, a friend purchased 1 of these and the quality was :sick:. Guess its luck of the draw



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[bsasuper]

First one was very mild, second one was your own fault.

[over5tayer]

First one was very mild, second one was your own fault.


thanks for the constructive feedback! :niceone:

[nosebleed]

Fire and theft?

Given the "love" on here, it'd be the most logical choice of cover.

[zeocen]

I haven't read all of the comments but you look like an absolute fuckwit revving your bike that much for an extremely unremarkable event.

Don't sweat the small stuff and look out for yourself, none of the other cars knew what happened and are just seeing this tosser revving the nuts off his bike while splitting between traffic. It made you look like a cock.

[over5tayer]

Seeing the door open like that though, I may have run a little wider around that car.

I like these vids keep em coming.


This was actually the first time ive 'frozen' in ages. I could see this guy half parked sitting on the breaks from the bottom of the hill so i knew something was coming up - expecting a u-turn or a sudden pull out. When i got closer and i saw the door start to open i assumed he'd hop out and hug the side of the car till i passed (this is what i've seen every other cager do in my modest 4 years road experience). When he leaped out and started dashing across the road i was completely taken by surprise and froze :shit:. You hear me get back on the gas (in 4th or 5th :facepalm:) about 2 seconds after i pass the car.


ive got 1 other lame video that shows me overreacting again (in front of a cop), i might upload it later

[Katman]

ive got 1 other lame video that shows me overreacting again (in front of a cop), i might upload it later

Do yourself a favour - keep it a secret. :facepalm:

[over5tayer]

... none of the other cars knew what happened and are just seeing this tosser revving the nuts off his bike while splitting between traffic. It made you look like a cock.


what if the other cars did see what happened? they'd be thinking "man that biker just got (slightly)cut off and he didnt do anything - what a lil bitch" :scooter:.


Whats worse. Looking like a cock or looking like a pussy :)?

[zeocen]

Anyone with even a modicum of maturity would see you keep your head level and never give it another thought.

Meanwhile, all they saw this time was some cockhammer revvning the tits off his bike going 40kph, hope you felt manly.

[over5tayer]

Anyone with even a modicum of maturity would see you keep your head level and never give it another thought.


the fact that half of the words you use either have "fuck", "cock" or "cum" in them really shows off your high level of maturity. Im 19 - i am trying to wise up and leave my 'immature' past behind - but some things i.e. people not indicating at crucial times - flicks the immature switch back on and i do something stupid.


Meanwhile, all they saw this time was some cockhammer revvning the tits off his bike going 40kph, hope you felt manly

I'm sorry, next time i'll get a run up and max it out past her in 6th - that'll teach her to indicate.

[zeocen]

Didn't use, "cum" in any instance. I see reading comprehension is on par with your skill on a motorcycle.



I'm sorry, next time i'll get a run up and max it out past her in 6th - that'll teach her to indicate.

Nice one, so on that bike it should be topping out at 45kph! You go girl!
Perhaps less defensive remarks and more realisation of your own mortality and self-awareness would see you benefiting from this situation better?

Just a suggestion.

[DangerMice]

I like these vids keep em coming.

Awwwww, jumping on the Stebel wasn't an poll option

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(sorry about the sound, it's one of those cheapy 1-day cameras)

[CookMySock]

some things i.e. people not indicating at crucial times - flicks the immature switch back on and i do something stupid. Your feelings are not your actions. While one leads to the other in an uncontrolled fashion you are quite vulnerable, and consequently so are others around you.

Let your feelings subside... and then choose. I often choose to suddenly and violently blap the loud handle right next to the drivers' window, and I find this to be an effective communication tool as well as very soothing for my tortured soul. Also, killswitch on and then off next to drivers window is also very effective - normally resulting in a big blue flame at or about the speed of sound.

edit: I haven't yet managed to make a car screech its tires while attempting to evade me.. Will report back when I manage it!

[over5tayer]

Nice one, so on that bike it should be topping out at 45kph! You go girl! Perhaps less defensive remarks and more realisation of your own mortality and self-awareness would see you benefiting from this situation better?

Just a suggestion.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNCpMYNUszU&feature=related


perhaps less attacking and more constructive criticism will make your messages sink in. Just because Katman is being unusually tame doesn't mean you have to take the reins. I know im new to 2 wheels. I know have much to learn. I know that i occasionally do stupid things. I know my situational awareness still needs a lot of development - i am slowly improving.


your a complete cunt if you think you can insert 1 line of useless 'wisdom' within a paragraph of swearing and attacking and expect the victim of this assault to take anything out of it. Im talking in general not just on this thread...

[over5tayer]

Your feelings are not your actions. While one leads to the other in an uncontrolled fashion you are quite vulnerable, and consequently so are others around you....


I dont really get angry or 'out of control' (never been in or tried to start a fight in my life). I see it more like; if they dont know they've done anything wrong then a close(ish) call for me, may end up being a fatal strike on someone else.... Anyways those are good words and ill take them on-board.

I might have to try the killswitch backfire thing out - hope it doesnt make the hole in my exhaust too much bigger :bleh:

[Berries]

the fact that half of the words you use either have "fuck", "cock" or "cum" in them really shows off your high level of maturity. Im 19 - i am trying to wise up and leave my 'immature' past behind - but some things i.e. people not indicating at crucial times - flicks the immature switch back on and i do something stupid.

I'm sorry, next time i'll get a run up and max it out past her in 6th - that'll teach her to indicate.
No it won't. It won't teach her anything, she'll just think you are a cock. Just calm down. Assume all car drivers are idiots trying to kill you and ride accordingly. No point getting wound up. Revving the engine is such BS anyway, like they care, or even hear it. And stebels suck arse IMO. Let it go. People don't indicate, fact of life so deal with it.

I've got the immature switch, usually flicks when I see a boy racer and I do stupid stuff. But that is why I ride a bike. Great buzz. But don't get wound up about anybody else, it's not worth it.

[over5tayer]

No it won't. It won't teach her anything, she'll just think you are a cock. Just calm down...

forgot my sarcasm sign :facepalm:. But yea, i agree with the rest of what you said - except for the part about not hearing my engine :angry2:.

[Gremlin]

Considering I do 15k a year around Auckland, and with less than 10 hours under my belt I was off commuting to Uni etc, if I let every car that cut me off get to me, I would have died an early death long ago.

Letting it get to you alters your mentality, through anger, frustration, whatever, and will make you miss the danger signs of other possible issues on the road.

I let out a bit of a sigh, as my suspicion is proved correct, and carry on. Getting angry doesn't do anything. Maintain a calm head and ride defensively. It doesn't matter who's in the wrong... you lose either way.

[ducatilover]

Should have read the first post, I voted thinking you meant a real close call. I've had a few knobs swerve at me deliberately, but, being the paranoid prick that I am, they haven't hit me yet. I just follow them 'till they pull over and have a quiet word, otherwise I tickle a mirror or door.
I know I'd change how I think if I was the wanker in the car.

I might invest in a Colt 1911, just to re-enforce the fact that I hate dick heads.

[jonbuoy]

That was being cut off? Roads must have got a lot more gentle since I left NZ. Looked just like a normal day on the way to work here, nothing in those vids that you won´t see time and time again in a car or on a bike. Trick to being a good road rider is anticipating those moves.

[Dave Lobster]

Im 19 - i am trying to wise up and leave my 'immature' past behind - .

It's not working.

[Genie]

Ha...got cut off rather blantantly for the first time yesterday...Lord knows how the man didn't see me, but he didnt'. I saw what he was up to before he put on his indicator so had plenty of time to duck and cover and ease my way through the gap, tooted my gay sounding horn at the gentleman and rode off happy in the knowledge that I anticipated his move and made it home safely. One day I will meet thie gentleman (work vehicles have a way of being recognised and I know his boss), and I shall politley point out to him just what a toss pot he was/is.

What we all need to remember that we are personally responsible for our own safety...no body esle. Stay sharp, stay upright and happy. :scooter:

[over5tayer]

... Letting it get to you alters your mentality, through anger, frustration, whatever, and will make you miss the danger signs of other possible issues on the road.

I let out a bit of a sigh, as my suspicion is proved correct, and carry on. Getting angry doesn't do anything. Maintain a calm head and ride defensively. It doesn't matter who's in the wrong... you lose either way.


good advice. I often find myself focusing so hard on 1 hazard that i completely miss other obvious ones. I also find that if i dont keep myself at least slightly entertained on my commute that my short attention span kicks in and i start to 'zone out'.



That was being cut off? Roads must have got a lot more gentle since I left NZ. Looked just like a normal day on the way to work here, nothing in those vids that you won´t see time and time again in a car or on a bike. Trick to being a good road rider is anticipating those moves.

yes these are everyday occurrences - i didnt post the videos to brag about my big 'near death experience'. I have seen/been involved in some actual close calls in my old cage and do know the difference. These were all i had from the past 2(ish) weeks of recording.



.... Stay sharp, stay upright and happy. :scooter:

hmm, wonder if i'll be able to stay upright in this wind over the bridge today. Is there anyone else deciding to take other means of transport? i'm 6ft 68kg and my bike only weighs in at 140. Even small gusts seem to throw me around in my lane. I've never ridden over the bridge in anything this strong - reckon i should take the bus?

[tracyprier]

Commuting on the motorway you see this sort of stuff all the time. My response is to have extra fog lights on the bike, always on which DOES make you more visible, always make sure I am "switched on" and situationally aware... and always, always install air horns :)

My previous bikes had the room for normal separate compressor/horn types but the sic-fiddy doesn't so I fitted a Stiebel nautilus compact (which now comes in a waterproof version)... 130db of bowel-loosening blare baby!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

... and as others have said, don't get bent out of shape when stuff happens, deep breath and relax and once you are in front of them a disparaging shake of the head as expressing a "oh deary me... what a wally"

cheers
Tracy

[slofox]

Yeah, as a subaru-driving, gixxer riding geriatric from Hamilton you're nobody's stereotype :)

Fixed that for ya...you left out the most important part!

[Smifffy]

Ok, let's take another tack with this, and assume the OP isn't crapping us out with his claims of wanting to improve and gain wisdom.

We've all had a good laugh and abused him for his actions, now let's try and help him and others by coming up with a consensus on how he might handle similar situations in the future.

First up it would seem the consensus is that the 1st vid wasn't a cut up at all, and should just be expected.

The second vid seems a little closer, and may have been managed better by being more assertive in positioning himself on the road.

Neither were really worth stewing over, but both were worthy of reviewing and working on improving for next time.

Good on the OP for posting the vid, we've seen plenty of threads before about being cut off by some cock in a yuppy/ricer wagon du jour, and how the rider taught them an excellent lesson by gesturing/braking/following etc. In reality those cut ups were probably no worse than the OP's vid.

[Gremlin]

Fixed that for ya...you left out the most important part!
:facepalm: Point... you missed it.

No-one cares about Suzukis... especially GSXR's :Pokey:

[Blackshear]

Mine's louder :love:

EDIT: Pity we never got that Forrester on film.

[PrincessBandit]

Awwwww, jumping on the Stebel wasn't an poll option
(sorry about the sound, it's one of those cheapy 1-day cameras)
That was awesome! Hubby bought a stebel for each of our bikes recently and I can't wait to have mine fitted. In all honesty there haven't been many times I've had to resort to the horn (a bit of an embarrassing fart type parp, mine currently is anyway) but I'm sure that sooner of later I'll be very happy to have a meatier horn at my disposal.




hmm, wonder if i'll be able to stay upright in this wind over the bridge today. Is there anyone else deciding to take other means of transport? i'm 6ft 68kg and my bike only weighs in at 140. Even small gusts seem to throw me around in my lane. I've never ridden over the bridge in anything this strong - reckon i should take the bus?
Aim for the innermost lanes. Last thing you want is to be blown over the sides! Alternatively look for a nice big van or truck (even a, heaven forbid, big fat SUV) to play buddies with for gust protection.

[ellipsis]

...lucky we dont have milk in bottles anymore...you might just find it dangerous making a cup of tea..

[over5tayer]

...lucky we dont have milk in bottles anymore...you might just find it dangerous making a cup of tea..


i see what you did there.

You are implying that I specifically started this thread to show the NZ biking community my ‘close shave with death’. You then relate the absence of danger witnessed in these videos with the analogy that glass milk bottles carry a similar level of threat. Your statement then proceeds to say that if glass milk bottles were still in circulation, my beverage of choice for watching Coro Street would no longer be tea, it would be something safer to make.

[ellipsis]

...nothing so complex...I was being facetious..

[over5tayer]

...nothing so complex...I was being facetious..

:innocent:

[Maki]

I always ride faster than the cars so I never get cut off.

[nighthawk]

I or we have only ever re-acted badly to being cut off, prat in a brand new ute undertook us coming out of traffic lights on a very busy bit of raod, he was intent on forcing us into the oncoming traffic until Mrs NH placed her boot into his drivers door :gob:Nice new blue rodeo with huge dent in door...... Priceless

In hind sight it was a stupid thing to do but thats what happens when you scare the bejesss' out of Mrs NH:yes:

[DangerMice]

I have another one, but this one was more my fault. Right at the start of the vid I'm in a bus lane and merging back into the traffic. I stayed way too far left which gave the people mover room to get beside me. If I'd claimed my lane it wouldn't have happened. I hit the horn again, but this time it was "hey I'm right here, don't crush me against the curb please kthx"

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[over5tayer]

he was intent on forcing us into the oncoming traffic until Mrs NH placed her boot into his drivers door :gob:Nice new blue rodeo with huge dent in door...... Priceless

:killingme - Serves him right. Mrs NH must have a hell-ova kick, doors are not easy to dent - ive tried at pick-a-part :)



I'm turning here too

that stebel is super effective. I think i might have to make the investment. Whats the camera make and model that you got off 1-day? did it come with the helmet mount?

[DangerMice]

that stebel is super effective. I think i might have to make the investment. Whats the camera make and model that you got off 1-day? did it come with the helmet mount?

Stebel here (http://bikebits.co.nz/contents/en-uk/d465.html#p11770) I bought the twin pack and decided to use the low tone. Real cheap (~$40)

The camera is this one here (http://www.torpedo7.co.nz/products/1DCMHN919/title/camshot-action-helmet-camera). Mine was $69 on 1-day. I use the long rubber strap around the base of my helmet and have the camera mounted below my right cheek. Sound isn't great, but the pictures are ok. Not HD of course, but better than what you see uploaded to the web.

[TZR]

you can probably see everything from the pictures but just in case - velcro super glued to foamy stuff above tacho, velcro on camera, small cuts of 3m strips to get the height adjustment right, rubber band to hold the back down.

Video and sound quality was quite a lot better before i cropped and uploaded to youtube - in saying that, a friend purchased 1 of these and the quality was :sick:. Guess its luck of the draw


thanks man - i'll have to rig up something similar.