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Westy_mate
24th March 2011, 15:40
So.... in a couple of months ill be able to purchase a 600, and im not too sure what make, (Yamaha, Kawasaki or Honda) model (CBR, R6, 636) or year to consider.

CBR 600RR 2007? R6? 636? any suggestions? whats the best value bike or best over all bike? I most likely wont be taking the bike on the track that often, im 6ft 70 Kgs, have around 3 years experience and yes, im only looking for a sports bike rather than a cruiser.

cheers!

Gremlin
24th March 2011, 15:42
The one that fits you best, and you feel most comfortable on.

No normal rider can expose the tangible differences between them, so go for the one you like best. On all major points, they are similar enough.

I guess one point to add, from my view, is which dealers do you prefer? My bikes get serviced enough that I have to have a dealer I trust, so buy those brands.

C.Linnell
24th March 2011, 15:52
You gotta test ride. Find friends who'll loan for half an hour, or a dealer with some demo bikes.

Cutting it down to 3 or 4 based on looks, then buying the one that rides best is what worked for me.


I don't have a sports bike, but FWIW I've had a lot of fun on my flatmate's CBR600... lovely, lovely bike :-)

The Singing Chef
24th March 2011, 15:53
R6.....:drool::drool::drool:

FruitLooPs
24th March 2011, 15:54
Also I believe the reg cutoff for bikes is 599/600cc? 36cc extra in a 636 becomes the top bracket.

firefighter
24th March 2011, 15:57
im 6ft 70 Kgs

:apumpin: Lay off the cardio bro :killingme

Westy_mate
24th March 2011, 16:07
:apumpin: Lay off the cardio bro :killingme

mate, i dont do any Cardio hahaha Damn fast Metabolism

Edbear
24th March 2011, 16:07
Any of the 600's are good bikes these days, so find one that fits you best. Yes, the rego is more for over 600cc but the GSX650F is a fabulous road bike, looks good and is comfortable. At 6' you may find the smaller bikes, like the R6 too cramped.

Ultimately, buying a bike is as much an emotional as logical experience, and you may buy a bike less than perfect for you simply because you like it and want it.

Hiflyer
24th March 2011, 16:09
When coming from a 250, wont be able to tell much difference in performance if they've all been looked after.

I took a 636 for a ride around the block once and then the next day a 600cc ninja and couldn't tell the difference haha. Both were leaps and bounds ahead of anything I'd ridden before.

You need to get some good riding experinence before you can tell which one is "better"

Like Gremlin said, think about the servicing, maybe you might wanna choose sometyhing with a dealer close to you.

Of course looks will play a part cos you're the one that has to walk up to it every day.

R6's have been bashed for being too "peaky" and having "no" midrange but that "non existant" mid range will be twice the power of your current bikes peak so I wouldn't worry about that either.

In short. Get the 636, screw worrying about the extra rego costs cos you'll have (in my opinion) one of the best looking bikes on the road.

Milts
24th March 2011, 16:09
Which 600? None of them. Pick any of the 675s and you can't go wrong!

I'd definitely recommend trying to test ride or at least sit on as many as you can, and add the triump 675s (street or daytona) to the list. More torque, more than enough power, and you may find them more confortable as well.

Hiflyer
24th March 2011, 16:10
Ultimately, buying a bike is as much an emotional as logical experience, and you may buy a bike less than perfect for you simply because you like it and want it.

Damn, that's what I was trying to say :facepalm:

jasonu
24th March 2011, 16:13
mate, i dont do any Cardio hahaha Damn fast Metabolism

Until you hit your late 30's...

steve_t
24th March 2011, 16:16
What's your budget? How about a 2009 ZX6R? :scooter:

Edbear
24th March 2011, 16:21
Damn, that's what I was trying to say :facepalm:

I thought so... :yes:


Until you hit your late 30's...

I wish I was still in my late 30's, I was still playing tennis and badminton back then...:bye:

Westy_mate
24th March 2011, 16:22
Until you hit your late 30's...

Bring on the 30's...

Westy_mate
24th March 2011, 16:25
When coming from a 250, wont be able to tell much difference in performance if they've all been looked after.

I took a 636 for a ride around the block once and then the next day a 600cc ninja and couldn't tell the difference haha. Both were leaps and bounds ahead of anything I'd ridden before.

You need to get some good riding experinence before you can tell which one is "better"

Like Gremlin said, think about the servicing, maybe you might wanna choose sometyhing with a dealer close to you.

Of course looks will play a part cos you're the one that has to walk up to it every day.

R6's have been bashed for being too "peaky" and having "no" midrange but that "non existant" mid range will be twice the power of your current bikes peak so I wouldn't worry about that either.

In short. Get the 636, screw worrying about the extra rego costs cos you'll have (in my opinion) one of the best looking bikes on the road.

Great help mate thanks, Ive heard alot about the R6 and 636 but not too much about the CBR600RR ;) im a huge Honda Fan and all the dealers are very close by so that wont really matter. I know r6's are a wee bit cheaper than a CBR and 636's are cheaper than an R6 but to be completely honest i dont like the thought of riding a Ninja.... its the 250 ninja's that screwed up that notion for me. so really its between the R6 and CBR600RR and yeah i do like the daytona but again the rego cost would be a bit more. hmmm SO many choices!!!

Westy_mate
24th March 2011, 16:28
What's your budget? How about a 2009 ZX6R? :scooter:

Not a huge Fan of Ninja's... haha

Hiflyer
24th March 2011, 16:30
Great help mate thanks, Ive heard alot about the R6 and 636 but not too much about the CBR600RR ;) im a huge Honda Fan and all the dealers are very close by so that wont really matter. I know r6's are a wee bit cheaper than a CBR and 636's are cheaper than an R6 but to be completely honest i dont like the thought of riding a Ninja.... its the 250 ninja's that screwed up that notion for me. so really its between the R6 and CBR600RR and yeah i do like the daytona but again the rego cost would be a bit more. hmmm SO many choices!!!

This (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-362189586.htm) is niiice

but then the CBR's are a lot cheaper and Honda's fit and finish it tops!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-362059518.htm

steelestring
24th March 2011, 16:38
Not a huge Fan of Ninja's... haha

Dont shoot them down before you try... :facepalm:

ac3_snow
24th March 2011, 16:40
Which 600? None of them. Pick any of the 675s and you can't go wrong!

I'd definitely recommend trying to test ride or at least sit on as many as you can, and add the triump 675s (street or daytona) to the list. More torque, more than enough power, and you may find them more confortable as well.
+1
definitely the daytona 675, fark they are sexy!:drool:

short-circuit
24th March 2011, 16:49
Which 600? None of them. Pick any of the 675s and you can't go wrong!

I'd definitely recommend trying to test ride or at least sit on as many as you can, and add the triump 675s (street or daytona) to the list. More torque, more than enough power, and you may find them more confortable as well.

This one aint bad: http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=362694071 [Ahem]

over5tayer
24th March 2011, 17:03
get this, (http://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=359143101) look after it, dont do too many k's and sell it to me when i get my full :drool:

tigertim20
24th March 2011, 17:12
So.... in a couple of months ill be able to purchase a 600, and im not too sure what make, (Yamaha, Kawasaki or Honda) model (CBR, R6, 636) or year to consider.

CBR 600RR 2007? R6? 636? any suggestions? whats the best value bike or best over all bike? I most likely wont be taking the bike on the track that often, im 6ft 70 Kgs, have around 3 years experience and yes, im only looking for a sports bike rather than a cruiser.

cheers!

the best bike is the one that suits YOU the most, period. theres no generic answer. whats great for me will be shit for you. You need to go test ride everything you can. even stuff you think you wouldnt like, because once youre on the thing, your mind may well be changed quite quickly. You ned to test ride a range of brands, capacities, and years of bike, and assess the overall comfort, handling, 'fit' to your size, how well you riding style interacts with the characteristics of that particular bike etc etc etc. go riding, then ome back once you have 2-4 final options. enjoy the test rides.

javawocky
24th March 2011, 18:08
I think you may be a little uncomfortable on a 600, have you sat on any in the show room? Put it on the stand and put your feet on the pegs, your legs will start loosing blood and you will have to call the sales person to come help you off ;)

My old SV1000 was pretty roomy and more suited to taller people than I. My 600 fits just fine.

Also conceder a naked like the street triple if you are mostly a fair weather rider.

Usarka
24th March 2011, 18:14
They are all good. The answer is: buy the one that gives you wood.

If you use your brain you'll regret it each time you see the one that your wanger wanted.

Vinz0r
24th March 2011, 18:51
They are all good. The answer is: buy the one that gives you wood.

If you use your brain you'll regret it each time you see the one that your wanger wanted.

Not only the case with bikes eh chaps? :yes:

The Singing Chef
24th March 2011, 20:40
Not only the case with bikes eh chaps? :yes:

Hahahaha! too true..:yes:

boman
24th March 2011, 20:49
If you do consider an SV Thou. Mine is for sale. I found the GSXR 600, somewhat lacking in the go department. Try a GSxr 750, or the Triumph 675. A hell of alot more go than a 600 IMO.

rachprice
24th March 2011, 20:49
Careful guys you might get accused of encouraging him just to get in his pants!!


I love the look of the 675 daytona but haven't actually ridden it and the cbr's are pretty sexy too

Go something different and get a 2 stroke!

Number One
24th March 2011, 20:53
They are all good. The answer is: buy the one that gives you wood.

If you use your brain you'll regret it each time you see the one that your wanger wanted.

Damn so that's what I did wrong - I shoulda borrowed a strap on to wear during my 'research' phase...now yas tell me!

puddytat
24th March 2011, 21:12
If your liking the R6, then the 03-05 R6 s model are great with a more road friendly spread of power....the 05 has USD forks too.

tigertim20
25th March 2011, 01:15
They are all good. The answer is: buy the one that gives you wood.

If you use your brain you'll regret it each time you see the one that your wanger wanted.

...you must spread it around before. . .

bang on. wel said.

captain_andrey
25th March 2011, 05:31
About 2 years ago I had the same decision to make. I was buying new so this is what I think about the 2008 models.

First I took a Daytona 675 for a ride, it was my number one choice based on looks. It didnt take long to realise it was not for me. The seating and the steering positions are way way too aggressive.

The GSXR i didnt bother test riding. I honestly think its the ugliest bike in the range. Also the suzuki color schemes make me puke.

The R6 was nice, loved the engine sound especially at high rpm. Seating and steering was ok. Was definetly fun to ride but pretty tough in the city, the engine keeps overheating every time you stop at lights, the fans go crazy and the temperature gauge was hitting 120C.

Then I took a CBR for a ride and loved it right away. Its by far the most comfortable 600. Its usable in the city, the twisties and on the track. The engine is great, most low end power of other 4s was noticeable. The built in steering damper is great and has saved my ass many time since. Surprisingly it was also the best priced bike. SOLD!

So yeah, moral of the story, try them all. But if you dont have the time, buy a Honda, cant go wrong.

SVboy
25th March 2011, 08:13
In defence of the GSXR 600-the most comfortable 600 out there, and excellent performance. Too slow....bullshit! Easy to service-try servicing your hondahas cf a suzuki. But, as everyone says-it is what suits you.

imdying
25th March 2011, 08:37
In defence of the GSXR 600-the most comfortable 600 out there, and excellent performance. Too slow....bullshit! Easy to service-try servicing your hondahas cf a suzuki. But, as everyone says-it is what suits you.I notice you didn't comment on the looks :bleh:

Westy_mate
25th March 2011, 08:38
I will (when the time comes) start test riding a heap of 600's. If its a honda im going for it would have to be the 07 model (because of the damper) and if its the r6 def the 05 model. i think the 675 would be lovely too, will try to get my hands on that one. whats the best year for Daytona? (most noticeable and usable upgrades from the previous years), actually whats the best year for the CBR and R6 for that matter?

KiwiNinja
25th March 2011, 09:49
I will (when the time comes) start test riding a heap of 600's. If its a honda im going for it would have to be the 07 model (because of the damper) and if its the r6 def the 05 model. i think the 675 would be lovely too, will try to get my hands on that one. whats the best year for Daytona? (most noticeable and usable upgrades from the previous years), actually whats the best year for the CBR and R6 for that matter?

If your going for a CBR600RR go for 2007 onwards as it was a complete ground up re-design with the 2007 model. Nothing really has changed since then, except for the option of ABS and colour schemes.

I test rode every sports 600 I could my hands on (675, CBR, R6, GSXR, ZX6R, 636) about middle of last year and I had no problem fitting any of them (I'm about 6"1 and 100kg). In the end I liked the R6/CBR and it was bascially where I could find a good deal...finally settled on a 08 CBR.

KiwiNinja
25th March 2011, 10:02
Here's a nice R6 which looks to be well taken care of.

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Motorbikes/Motorbikes/Sports/auction-363624889.htm

Westy_mate
25th March 2011, 10:07
If your going for a CBR600RR go for 2007 onwards as it was a complete ground up re-design with the 2007 model. Nothing really has changed since then, except for the option of ABS and colour schemes.

I test rode every sports 600 I could my hands on (675, CBR, R6, GSXR, ZX6R, 636) about middle of last year and I had no problem fitting any of them (I'm about 6"1 and 100kg). In the end I liked the R6/CBR and it was bascially where I could find a good deal...finally settled on a 08 CBR.


Awesome Advise. thats exactly what i had heard about the CBR's. Whats a good year for a R6 however? 2005 i heard was a good year.

javawocky
25th March 2011, 12:23
I notice you didn't comment on the looks :bleh:

Pah! We should have a poll to see how many times random members of the public come up to you and say 'Wow, cool bike.' - just happened to me once :shutup:

I like the looks - but hay I bought one - but get which one you likes.

dodgyguy
25th March 2011, 12:41
Went through the same situation end of last year. Like everyone suggested, i test rode everything i was interested in and everything that people recommended.

In the end the the R6 won me over. Sure it runs hot in traffic and after a few hours of open road riding it feels like every bone in your body is broken. But when it all comes together on a good road and a dry cool day - there is nothing better.

But as everyone has said - try em all!:yes:

slofox
25th March 2011, 12:53
The one that fits you best, and you feel most comfortable on.

This says it all.

When I changed bikes a year ago, I opted for the GSX-R600 for that reason and that reason alone - it fitted like a body suit and none of the others available at the time did. The R6 was a little tall, the Daytona 675 was taller still and stuck my head out over the front wheel (well it felt like it did anyway).

I have yet to regret the decision.

People chuck mud at various brand names for various reasons but it seems to me that any of the leading brand 600's are good bikes.

Maki
26th March 2011, 14:53
The big manufacturers all seem to be making high quality bikes these days so just decide which one appeals to you the most. I have had an R6 for 2 years and I love it to bits. It never misses a beat and it provides as many thrills as I could possibly ask for.