No looting in Japan

[Mekk]

http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/15/why-is-there-no-looting-in-japan/

Interesting point about the Japanese quake.

[scissorhands]

In Japan, you can get blind drunk, sleep in a gutter, and in the morning your wallet will still be in your pocket.

[SMOKEU]

I can guarantee that a lot of looting happened in Japan after the quake, just on a smaller proportion to what one would expect.

[short-circuit]

I can guarantee that a lot of looting happened in Japan after the quake, just on a smaller proportion to what one would expect.

and what basis have you got for that assertion?

[Mekk]

In Japan, you can get blind drunk, sleep in a gutter, and in the morning your wallet will still be in your pocket.

You can do that in New Plymouth too.

Or something...

[munster]

You can do that in New Plymouth too

Oh, you'd have your wallet . . . . . and a sore arse :gob:

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[SMOKEU]

and what basis have you got for that assertion?

On what basis are you trying to deny my statement?

[Oakie]

On what basis are you trying to deny my statement?

You'd make a good politician.

I've got no basis either way but my impression of the disciplined and ordered Japanese society is that is there was looting, it would be for survival, not greed. Our Christchurch looters would steal TVs and jewellery. Theirs would steal food and water.

[yachtie10]

You'd make a good politician.

I've got no basis either way but my impression of the disciplined and ordered Japanese society is that is there was looting, it would be for survival, not greed. Our Christchurch looters would steal TVs and jewellery. Theirs would steal food and water.

Smokeu you made a silly statement and got called on it

Looting is not usually defined as taking necessities of life
food and water to survive is not looting in any definition I have seen

[tigertim20]

http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/15/why-is-there-no-looting-in-japan/

Interesting point about the Japanese quake.

No looting in Japan? I call bullshit. The japs are the type to not admit things that they think would be embarassing. When shit like that hits the fan, people go into survival mode, and do things they think might help them survive.

Maybe they havent CAUGHT anyone looting, but really, they had better shit to do than apprehend a few japs nicking shit aye

[Mekk]

The act of looting, the act of stealing during a general disturbance
en.wiktionary.org/wiki/looting

loot - take illegally; of intellectual property; "This writer plundered from famous authors"
loot - goods or money obtained illegally
loot - plunder: steal goods; take as spoils; "During the earthquake people looted the stores that were deserted by their owners"
loot - boodle: informal terms for money

wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

[Mekk]

No looting in Japan? I call bullshit.

my vigorous, well formed scientific research suggests 9/10 artices on the whole of the internet ever disagree.

[onearmedbandit]

Having spent some time in Japan, I'd doubt very much there would be any noticeable looting. Sure for water and food, but that's been covered already.

[SMOKEU]

Smokeu you made a silly statement and got called on it

Looting is not usually defined as taking necessities of life
food and water to survive is not looting in any definition I have seen

You're the one who just made a silly statement!

It's not really fair to say "New Zealanders steal stuff, but Japanese people are all saints".

You get good and bad people from every country. Saying that looting doesn't happen in Japan is rather ridiculous. The media has far more important things to do their stories on than a bunch of hoodrats stealing TVs out of an electronic store. A nuclear crisis springs to mind...

[onearmedbandit]

Regardless of the different cultures, where would this looting be happening? The worst affected areas have been wiped out.

[Brian d marge]

Is stealing a young girls Virginity counted as looting ????

If so guilty as charged ya honour!!


Basically these this lot is as dodgy as the day is long ...... but there is a deep sense of right and wrong

Ive had a motorbike stolen here , my changed skimmed in a massage parlour , a bit of biff sometime , all good

but I can pass out in the middle of Shinjuku and My wallet , and money will be in my back pocket and the front door of me house is unlocked

All good
there has been some theft , but very very very minor ( drinks from a vending machine I heard )
Stephen

if you want proof of how dodgy they can be ..... Toyota prius , or nuclear fallout reporting ,,,,,

[yachtie10]

You're the one who just made a silly statement!



You get good and bad people from every country. Saying that looting doesn't happen in Japan is rather ridiculous. The media has far more important things to do their stories on than a bunch of hoodrats stealing TVs out of an electronic store. A nuclear crisis springs to mind...

Thats not a silly statement your original one was actually a lot worse than silly i was being nice.

I made no comment on whether the Japanese were better or worse that us I just thought your ignorant guarantee was stupid

[SMOKEU]

Thats not a silly statement your original one was actually a lot worse than silly i was being nice.

I made no comment on whether the Japanese were better or worse that us I just thought your ignorant guarantee was stupid

So are you trying to say that not one single person in Japan has taken advantage of the situation and looted?

[scumdog]

So are you trying to say that not one single person in Japan has taken advantage of the situation and looted?

You're floggin' a dead horse here matey....

[yachtie10]

So are you trying to say that not one single person in Japan has taken advantage of the situation and looted?

you dont get it
no one can say that as they dont know (unless they have seen it) just as you dont know it happened.

to comment on what you are really trying to say which is there just as bad as us

I think you wrong there too (in this particular situation). Maybe you need to experience other cultures in person to understand.

[Smokin]

Oh there was looting alright.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/22/500g-gone-tsunami-cracked-bank-vault-japan/

[Brian d marge]

Oh there was looting alright.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/22/500g-gone-tsunami-cracked-bank-vault-japan/

heard about that

The top end criminals are ,,, as said before as dodgy as the day is long ... Tepco power bosses saying , whoops sorry for the misleading info,

Toyota , honda , mitsubishi ..they are all at it

But the average Joe , just like in NZ is as honest as I have experienced all over the world , Japanese probably a little more so

I drank myself in to a stupor one ( or twice ) this particular time , I tried to buy a train ticket ,,, fell asleep in front of the ticket machine , money , credit cards , everything all over the place
All back safe and sound the next morning , thats a typical anecdotal story

on saying that , Ive also seen a poor young man being persuaded into a black car , from which Im pretty sure he would be lucky to leave alive

There has been some looting but not a mass riot what ever and Im sure that the Japanese government are keen to show this in a good light

As you were...

Stephen

[gammaguy]

I can guarantee that a lot of looting happened in Japan after the quake, just on a smaller proportion to what one would expect.

BULLSHIT

The Japanese still have a sense of honour and respect.Looting is unthinkable to them

What a stupid poorly researched comment fired off a quickly as a sly wank in a lunch break

ass

[Mekk]

Oh there was looting alright.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2011/03/22/500g-gone-tsunami-cracked-bank-vault-japan/

I imagine it would be quite hard not to walk away with $500k of a bank's insured money after your town was obliterated.

[schrodingers cat]

My first thought was that there weren't too many folks left to be doing much looting, poor buggars

Both Japan and Christchurch on the international scheme of things experienced massive natural disasters and bucked trends by NOT suffering a breakdown of law and order.

The jury is out as to the behaviour we'll see when Auckland gets hit...

To quote Mark Twain (again) 'If you don't read the news you are uninformed. If you do read the news you are misinformed'

[scissorhands]

The jury is out as to the behaviour we'll see when Auckland gets hit...

Depends on where you are, and whether you have aspergers syndrome or not:facepalm:

[scracha]

Smokeu, yet again doing his anti-asian thing. I can tell you this mate, having fell asleep outside Shibuya train station (woken up by a nice copper just in time for the first train :innocent:) and just from the way shops store their stuff, you can tell that looting and pilfering are not really an issue in Japan.

[Berries]

You are all wrong and have fallen for a common language related issue. Due to the way the Japanese pronounce certain letters of the alphabet, the thread should actually be called "No sex in Japan."


Sales of condoms have fallen dramatically since the trifecta of tragedies hit our beautiful shores.

It's no rooting.

[doc]

Why bother looting when you can get good stuff from the inorganic rubbish in the middle of the road ?

[Mekk]

Why bother looting when you can get good stuff from the inorganic rubbish in the middle of the road ?

Now that's a rat bike.

[SPman]

Our Christchurch looters would steal TVs and jewellery. .
You talking about the erstwhile demolition gangs......

[onearmedbandit]

You talking about the erstwhile demolition gangs......

Exactly. People here charged with making buildings safe etc nicking shit from stores. I wonder how much of that happens in Japan...

[mattian]

It is true that the Japanese are (probably) the most orderly and polite people on the planet. Post 1945 to the present day that is,.... pre-1945 they were the most barbaric, inhumane people on the planet. Gulity of some of the worst wartime atrocities known to man!! Just google "The rape of Nanking"
I put their present day good behaviour down to a deep seated guilty consicience.

[Mekk]

I put their present day good behaviour down to a deep seated guilty consicience.

and what of Germans?

[ellipsis]

...and us vikings..

[mattian]

and what of Germans?

Yep. The Germans were bad, but in my humble appraisal of history the Japanese were much worse.

[onearmedbandit]

Ain't no one innocent in war...

[ellipsis]

...and did you know -

,,,poms drink tea ALL DAY and dont do any work...
...yanks are ALL loudmouths who live on McDonalds...
...irishmen REALLY are silly people...
...EVERY Indian off the sub-continent owns a corner dairy...
...aussies...well...take your pick of negatives...
...the Khmer's are very gentle people...
...98% of Africans have AIDS...
...ALL Morroccan men gather at markets to finger white girls
...EVERY Kiwi can fix most problems with a piece of 8 gauge wire...:yes:
...ALL South Africans are rascist Boers...
...the Japanese are the most socially conscious, most gracious, honest and truthful peoples, ever to have graced our planet...as well as making Hondas...



:bye:

[Mekk]

...and did you know -

how'd you get so cultured bro? :shit:

[ellipsis]

how'd you get so cultured bro? :shit:

...unquestioningly reading the FACTS in the newspaper, diligently, every day...and from what I've gleaned from KB, of course..

[Brian d marge]

Smokeu, yet again doing his anti-asian thing. I can tell you this mate, having fell asleep outside Shibuya train station (woken up by a nice copper just in time for the first train :innocent:) and just from the way shops store their stuff, you can tell that looting and pilfering are not really an issue in Japan.

You snored

couldnt sleep a wink ,,,,

As for Japan being barbaric , it was the British that invented the concentration camps ,

I do chuckle at , people who really have no understanding , of their own or indeed anyone else's , using their worldly views to comment on other cultures

The Asian cultures have been round almost if not longer than the western ( fragmented ) culture , have a deep religious grounding and are some of the deepest most matured Ive struck in my travels , 11 year now and only have scratched the surface

Then there is the Kiwi culture, Tops including Maori 1660 odd ??? crickey even us poms had learnt to read by this time ( fat lot we did with it )


What you fellas think is " good crack " is quite barbaric to others ....

As you were ( here we go another friggen after shock ...sod this )


One thing is common in both countries , the main stream beer is CRAP..... probably the ONLY thing the brits got right

That and Nora Battys legs

Stephen

[scumdog]

..and from what I've gleaned from KB, of course..

Well, can't dispute the facts gleaned from THAT source!:shutup:

[FJRider]

Well, can't dispute the facts gleaned from THAT source!:shutup:

Please point THEM out ... I cant find many ...:facepalm:

[EJK]

I don't know about looting but heard alot about chikan (groping). Heck, I'm sure it happens all around the world but "Japan" is the first word that comes up into my mind.

What the hell would I know, I'm just a guy who watched the wrong porno.

[SMOKEU]

BULLSHIT

The Japanese still have a sense of honour and respect.Looting is unthinkable to them

What a stupid poorly researched comment fired off a quickly as a sly wank in a lunch break

ass

You're a muppet. Haven't you ever heard of the Yakuza? Crime happens all over the world. Get used to it.

PS - I've owned several JDM cars and bikes, all of which have locks on them fitted from their respective factories. Why would JDM cars and bikes have locks on them if there is no crime in Japan?

[onearmedbandit]

No one said there is no crime in Japan. Fuck I've spent a few days living with an 'organised criminal' in Japan, put us up in the top floor of a very nice hotel, everything paid for, ate dinner with him and his right hand man as they conducted 'business' over the phone (my then wife was Japanese), spent hours in his bar drinking and eating. Was a great old time.

But looting takes a different mindset to organised crime.

[Mungatoke Mad]

BULLSHIT

The Japanese still have a sense of honour and respect.Looting is unthinkable to them

What a stupid poorly researched comment fired off a quickly as a sly wank in a lunch break

assLet us not forget that the Japanese Atrocities of WW2 are referred to as UNFORTUNATE INCIDENTS in there school text books . They will always give you their version of History

[ellipsis]

....we are all one, despite the fact that we cant be...


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[onearmedbandit]

Let us not forget that the Japanese Atrocities of WW2 are referred to as UNFORTUNATE INCIDENTS in there school text books . They will always give you their version of History

Don't remember reading about the atrocities carried out by the Allies after the end of WWII...

[Mekk]

yeah i missed that history channel ep too.

[Brian d marge]

I see people still arguing about things they know FK about

Must be crap all on tv then

Stephen

[imdying]

Plonkers... bit hard for them to loot when there's nothing left standing.

They'll have their looters but, typically Japanese, you round eyes will never ever hear about it.

[Mekk]

They'll have their looters but, typically Japanese, you round eyes will never ever hear about it.

thissss guy knows what he's talkin about.

[Mungatoke Mad]

Don't remember reading about the atrocities carried out by the Allies after the end of WWII...Try a DVD then

[onearmedbandit]

Try a DVD then

Nope, I'm talking about being taught about it in school.

And FWIW, I do actually agree there would be looters in Japan, and that we wouldn't hear much about it. But I'm confident that there would be more looting if the same event happened here.

[Mungatoke Mad]

Nope, I'm talking about being taught about it in school.

I Learnt 4rom my old man & a number of his ex service Mates about slavery summery Executions & starvation.


And FWIW, I do actually agree there would be looters in Japan, and that we wouldn't hear much about it. But I'm confident that there would be more looting if the same event happened here.

Shit yea heaps more

[Berries]

I Learnt 4rom my old man & a number of his ex service Mates about slavery summery Executions & starvation.
What about typing ?

[dipshit]

Don't remember reading about the atrocities carried out by the Allies after the end of WWII...

I knew an old guy that was in the merchant navy following WWII. He told me about once when a lot of them got dropped off on some Indonesian island and given a 303 and a few clips of amo and being told to go shoot the natives, as some logging or mining company wanted the island.

Don't read about that one in our history books.

[onearmedbandit]

Exactly. As one of my school teachers would say to us, 'remember, when you point the finger there are three pointing back at you.'

Mind you, that just taught me to point with my whole hand...

[Brian d marge]

another wee shake , 7, probably 5 here Christchurch I understand how these after shocks can lose their gloss, real quick

The 2 boys didnt even wake up ( baskets)

These are not fun anymore

Stephen

[Okey Dokey]

Part of the looting/not looting thing I suspect would go back to a sense of community. It would be easier to steal from others when you have an "us and them" mentality, like most criminal gang type people.

Culturally, the every man for himself/I'm alright stuff you attitude, might also lead people to more easily justify nicking things from others. Again, just my thoughts, I have no proof. Both Japan and NZ follow capitalist economic models, but the social structure of the Japanese strikes me as putting more emphasis on the communal, whereas NZ is more indivualistic.

B d'M, hope you can stay strong through all the shaking. That last aftershock was over 7, you were correct.

[Brian d marge]

Part of the looting/not looting thing I suspect would go back to a sense of community. It would be easier to steal from others when you have an "us and them" mentality, like most criminal gang type people.

Culturally, the every man for himself/I'm alright stuff you attitude, might also lead people to more easily justify nicking things from others. Again, just my thoughts, I have no proof. Both Japan and NZ follow capitalist economic models, but the social structure of the Japanese strikes me as putting more emphasis on the communal, whereas NZ is more indivualistic.

B d'M, hope you can stay strong through all the shaking. That last aftershock was over 7, you were correct.

Thanks , and you are bang on about the community , the group , feeling is almost central to the Japanese mind , you watch , ask a jap for their opinion , and they will instantly look at the others to check and gauge what should be said

has its good points and bad points

Stephen

[Maki]

They are generally Buddhists. To them stealing from other people is the same as stealing from yourself. Vandalizing other peoples property is the same as vandalizing your own. A silly thing to do. Too bad so many morons are wandering around in NZ with no clue, and do not see the harm that their own crimes bring to themselves.