What is it with Suzukis??

[airplane]

I wonder if others share this view?

Suzuki makes great bikes, often leading the way in performance and definitely (usually?) on price. But it seems to go all wrong when they apply the finishing touches -bodywork and the paint brush.

I was in Wellington MC yesterday and after having ridden a new Suzuki wandered into the clothing area. It wasn't until I'd been there a few minutes and been round the whole area I realised there was an 05 GSX R1000 in the middle of the place! I think that says all about the annonymous styling and, especially the paint.

When ever I see a ZX-10 or Yammi R1 I can help but notice them and admire the lines and the details. Suzie and, to a lesser extent Honda, seem to loose it with fussy and repetitive paint schemes. Most of the Suzuli sport bikes look almost the same (apart from the big-rear on the new 1000). I always stare more at Honda VTRs in their sparkly blue or glossy red paint than CBR 1000s, even though the VTR has been the same for years.

That's not to say Suzuki don't come up with the goods. I test rode a DRZ 400SM; an absolute hoot. Great gearbox, big, high sup eating, plenty of go (those who like to carve up the traffic would be right at home) and looks pretty indestruuctible.

Seems a bit weird asking SV 650 money for such a basic machine and makes you wonder if Suzuki are as committed to lower prices as they have been in the past (the new GSXR 1000 is also priced top-drawer). However, you'd be hard pressed to deny its a great bike and a good all rounder. Seat would be tough for touring, so its probably a better commuter and day fun bike.

[zadok]

I started a thread regarding the lackluster paintwork of the new gixxers a few weeks ago. They need a boot up the bum in that department.

[TLDV8]

I started a thread regarding the lackluster paintwork of the new gixxers a few weeks ago. They need a boot up the bum in that department.


There is that other wee problem also? :whistle:


http://www.tlplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=48595

[**R1**]

I have to agree....i would own a thou if they didnt look so dam booring....

[onearmedbandit]

Eye of the beholder and all that, but out of the big four Suzuki does sometimes lack in the design area. But thats not to say that they don't make brilliant bikes. At the end of the day however, we are all individuals and luckily enough for us there are a number of different designs and styling options available. Buy what you like.

[Bonez]

I wonder if others share this view?

Suzuki makes great bikes, often leading the way in performance and definitely (usually?) on price. But it seems to go all wrong when they apply the finishing touches -bodywork and the paint brush.

I was in Wellington MC yesterday and after having ridden a new Suzuki wandered into the clothing area. It wasn't until I'd been there a few minutes and been round the whole area I realised there was an 05 GSX R1000 in the middle of the place! I think that says all about the annonymous styling and, especially the paint.

When ever I see a ZX-10 or Yammi R1 I can help but notice them and admire the lines and the details. Suzie and, to a lesser extent Honda, seem to loose it with fussy and repetitive paint schemes. Most of the Suzuli sport bikes look almost the same (apart from the big-rear on the new 1000). I always stare more at Honda VTRs in their sparkly blue or glossy red paint than CBR 1000s, even though the VTR has been the same for years.

That's not to say Suzuki don't come up with the goods. I test rode a DRZ 400SM; an absolute hoot. Great gearbox, big, high sup eating, plenty of go (those who like to carve up the traffic would be right at home) and looks pretty indestruuctible.

Seems a bit weird asking SV 650 money for such a basic machine and makes you wonder if Suzuki are as committed to lower prices as they have been in the past (the new GSXR 1000 is also priced top-drawer). However, you'd be hard pressed to deny its a great bike and a good all rounder. Seat would be tough for touring, so its probably a better commuter and day fun bike.
Hey they sell by the bucket loads. Isn't that what counts? Maybe the fact that they look "boring" keeps the prices down....................

[Jackrat]

Suzuki seems to have always trailed a bit in the finishing Dep't but even so have always made darn good bikes that sell,sell,sell.
On the other hand,Honda make some really well finished, good looking bikes.
But they seem to be considered boring by some.
Good thing there's so many bikes an brands to choose from I guess.
We've never had it so good.

[onearmedbandit]

Good point, I think from memory Suzuki top the national sales figures. There must be a reason why eh?

[Bonez]

Good point, I think from memory Suzuki top the national sales figures. There must be a reason why eh?Some riders get a kick out of having a "boring" looking bike that can whip the ass off the posers :devil2:

[WINJA]

EVERY ONE I KNOW INCLUDING ME SAID THE TLR WAS UGLY WHEN IT FIRST CAME OUT, A FEW YEARS ON ME AND THOSE PEOPLE CONSIDER IT STYLISH. I THINK FASHION CAN ALSO BE ABOUT TIMING, A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT K5 MUFF NOW ITS MORE THAN ACCEPTED, I THINK SOME OF THE UGLYNESS IS CAUSE THEIR TRYING TO MAKE THE AERODYNAMICS BETTER, PERSONALLY I LIKE SUZUKI ROAD BIKES CAUSE TO DATE THEYVE REALLY LOOKED AFTER ME OVER AND ABOVE REGAURDING WARRANTYS, I THINK THE HONDA IS THE BEST LOOKING OUTA THE JAP 4 BUT ILL NEVER EVER BUY ANOTHER HONDA , THEY STILL OWE ME A NEW BIKE FROM 1998 THEY DIDNT HONOUR THEIR WARANTY

[WINJA]

Some riders get a kick out of having a "boring" looking bike that can whip the ass off the posers :devil2:
THATS WHAT I LIKED ABOUT MY ZX9 C1 PAINTED MATT BLACK

[dangerous]

Suzuki makes great bikes, often leading the way in performance and definitely (usually?) on price. But it seems to go all wrong when they apply the finishing touches -bodywork and the paint brush.

yip I know were ya comming from..... Manuboys new SV is in the garage and when I gave it a look over I found a few bolts lose or missing eg: reg/rec hanging by its wires.
30UTD rocked up on his new K4 the other day, and the bar end weight was hanging on by a single thread....... shocking for a brand new bikle.



Hey they sell by the bucket loads. Maybe the fact that they look "boring" keeps the prices down....................

Good point, I think from memory Suzuki top the national sales figures. There must be a reason why eh?
Yes the reason is that Suzuki work on numbers not profit IIRC suzuki made less out of all the bike makers last year yet they sold the most bikes.

[Bonez]

Yes the reason is that Suzuki work on numbers not profit IIRC suzuki made less out of all the bike makers last year yet they sold the most bikes.If it puts more riders on the roads, good on them. :Punk:

[Bonez]

yip I know were ya comming from..... Manuboys new SV is in the garage and when I gave it a look over I found a few bolts lose or missing eg: reg/rec hanging by its wires.
30UTD rocked up on his new K4 the other day, and the bar end weight was hanging on by a single thread....... shocking for a brand new bikle.
If owners can't be fucked inspecting their own machines on a regular basis they should'nt be on a m/c as far as I'm concerned. Oh and have you informed Suzuki NZ of this problem so it can be rectified?

[dangerous]

If owners can't be fucked inspecting their own machines on a regular basis they should'nt be on a m/c as far as I'm concerned.

Oh and have you informed Suzuki NZ of this problem so it can be rectified?
Are you saying that the owner of a new bike should inspect it before every ride.... the bloody thing had 60km on it FFS, thats crap what you say....... however yes older bikes do need attention, my bike is newish I do regular checks before a bigish ride.
I know people that love their bike and love riding but they are office workers and havent a clue what to do when it comes to mainance.... you say they shouldent be on a m/c???

No point in telling anyone about the loose items..... Suzuki through cheapish parts and dont locktight every thing..... well thats how I see it and that is what this thread is about..... cheap paint and a lack of tighting shit :ride:

[TwoSeven]

My view of sportsbikes is probably different to others - and it is a view of sportsbikes, not cruisers or classics etc.

The first decent (i.e new) bike I owned was a Honda and after riding it all day every day for my job often to an inch of, and sometimes accidentely beyond its capabilities I got very used to the way it handled and the way the chasis and tires gave nice feedback (it had a suitable amount of flex).

Since then i've riden many machines and have noticed that suzuki's always give top performance in straight line speed, but i've never liked they way they deliver their feedback (not enough flex) which makes that neutrality in cornering rather difficult.

Kawasaki are the opposite, the seem to be too plush, being more like a mobile armchair than anything else, I'm also not keen on heavy bikes prefering small and light machinary.

I find it very difficult to change from machine to machine (I can, but it takes me a while), because I notice the subtle little differences which detract from my riding - heck, even changing tires drives me nuts.

I dont really have that much of an interest in sports bikes other than the technology, they all look pretty much the same to me and i'm too lazy to go fast - it bores me silly now.

I couldnt really give a monkies what the bikes look like, if I want them different, i'll bolt on other stuff or mod it. Bugger leaving it standard - that goes for any bike.

I always pre-ride inspect my bikes, even if i'm going round the block - its just habbit and something I do while i'm putting my kit on and waiting for it to warm up - even if its just a check of the chain, tires and levers.

Also, I make sure they are always serviced and in good condition, if somethings worn, it gets replaced - i'm not one to leave things to fail a warrent or blow up on me. Prefer to keep the machine in good order.

However, if it does blow up, I never have any sentimentality about them. To me they are just lumps of alloy that I have an interest in. If the bike goes bang, I either fix it, or save up and buy another. Cant see the point in all this preening and polishing and the like. I can never understand why people have so much invested value in a lump of metal that they are frightened to ride the things.

But having said that, each person has their own passion and I know some folks just buy bikes so they can look at em. What floats their boat is up to them I guess.

[Grumpy]

Are you saying that the owner of a new bike should inspect it before every ride.... the bloody thing had 60km on it FFS, thats crap what you say....... however yes older bikes do need attention, my bike is newish I do regular checks before a bigish ride.
I know people that love their bike and love riding but they are office workers and havent a clue what to do when it comes to mainance.... you say they shouldent be on a m/c???

No point in telling anyone about the loose items..... Suzuki through cheapish parts and dont locktight every thing..... well thats how I see it and that is what this thread is about..... cheap paint and a lack of tighting shit :ride:

My last eight bikes have been bought brand new. Seven of them Suzukis. I was given a tip by a mate to take a new bike home and go over the nuts and bolts. Can't say I've had any problems but it was good advice. Doesn't take long but worth it in the long run.

[Bonez]

that is what this thread is about..... cheap paint and a lack of tighting shit :ride:re read post one. :whistle: :whistle:

[Bonez]

I know people that love their bike and love riding but they are office workers and havent a clue what to do when it comes to mainance.... you say they shouldent be on a m/c???

No point in telling anyone about the loose items..... :Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm good one mate

[dangerous]

re read post one. :whistle: :whistle:
OK I will...... now you re read it heres the 1st 4 lines................ and tell me your point.


I wonder if others share this view?
Suzuki makes great bikes, often leading the way in performance and definitely (usually?) on price. But it seems to go all wrong when they apply the finishing touches -bodywork and the paint brush.



Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm good one mate
ok... either you do think what I said was a 'good one' or you are showing the lowest form of wit...... please explain your point again :ride:

[Bonez]

OK I will...... now you re read it heres the 1st 4 lines................ and tell me your point.





ok... either you do think what I said was a 'good one' or you are showing the lowest form of wit...... please explain your point again :ride:Sleep on it. I'm sure your'll figure it out.

[dangerous]

Sleep on it. I'm sure your'll figure it out.
LOL..... gezz man, I cant be bothered playing games, mind you too bloody cold out there to ride so..... what the hell :whistle:

[Sensei]

Well all I have to say is the Paint on my Silver K3 is Mint!! Everyone that looks at it & says fuck thats excellent . As far as bolts coming lose etc , I haven't had a bike in 53 bikes that something has not come lose or fallen off . My K3 had a Bar end fall off & a seat bolt drop out . Check bike every 2nd ride & each time I clean her I put the allen key over all bolts . A good point was made about looks of a bike don't always make it go any faster . Which is why I brought my K3 . What happens when you run out of ideas for your bike shape ? I think the R1 is getting close to this . Any ways GSXR's ROCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[onearmedbandit]

Well all I have to say is the Paint on my Silver K3 is Mint!! Everyone that looks at it & says fuck thats excellent . As far as bolts coming lose etc , I haven't had a bike in 53 bikes that something has not come lose or fallen off . My K3 had a Bar end fall off & a seat bolt drop out . Check bike every 2nd ride & each time I clean her I put the allen key over all bolts . A good point was made about looks of a bike don't always make it go any faster . Which is why I brought my K3 . What happens when you run out of ideas for your bike shape ? I think the R1 is getting close to this . Any ways GSXR's ROCK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have to concur, GSXR's do indeed ROCK. No arguement, from '85 though to '05 (ok, maybe not the '88-'95 model 750's, too fat.) they all rock. Everyone knows it, you can't deny it. Final. That's all. Zip it.

[spudchucka]

There is that other wee problem also? :whistle:


http://www.tlplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=48595
That is unbelievably bad.

Suzukis have always been great for performance and value for money but when you see something like that it makes you think about buying American.

I always hated the fake carbon fibre on the TLS, very tacky.

[BUBBLE]

Whats wrong with the colour of my Suzuki?

[onearmedbandit]

That is unbelievably bad.

Suzukis have always been great for performance and value for money but when you see something like that it makes you think about buying American.
.

And this man is a law enforcement officer. Don't they make you take a physcological test before joining the poleece?? (P/T)

[scumdog]

If you sorry arsed whingers (sorry WINJA) bought a DECENT bike like a Harley you wouldn't have all these shit quality problems!!










(Turns and dives into shit-and-slang-proof bunker and cuddles beautifully painted and nyloc'd and loc-tighted Harley!)

[zadok]

[QUOTE=scumdog]If you sorry arsed whingers (sorry WINJA) bought a DECENT bike like a Harley you wouldn't have all these shit quality problems!!

I can't believe you said that...you must be trying to wind us up :motu: Harley :weird:

[Gixxer 4 ever]

http://www.tlplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=48595
This is the third time I have read about the frame on these bikes. This is by far the worst. Fecken scary. I love zuki but time they came out and fixed this coz dead riders don't buy bikes. Front up Zuki.

[Gixxer 4 ever]

If you sorry arsed whingers (sorry WINJA) bought a DECENT bike like a Harley you wouldn't have all these shit quality problems!!!)

To :cold: and should be working so I will resist :nono: ....................... what the f.... :mad: ...........calm. Have a nice day. :yes:

[Pwalo]

This is the third time I have read about the frame on these bikes. This is by far the worst. Fecken scary. I love zuki but time they came out and fixed this coz dead riders don't buy bikes. Front up Zuki.

Mr Kagayama destroyed his GSXR last night and it's frame didn't appear to shear in such a fashion. None of the bike tests that I've read to date have come up with similar problems.

I don't think you can take every(any?)thing published on the web as gospel.

Suzukis certainly seem to suffer some corrosion problems cf say Hondas but they usually produce strong motors and frames. Even their electrics don't seem too bad these days.

[bugjuice]

http://www.tlplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=48595
that is scarily unsettling. Considering this is meant to be the pinicle of technology.. What gives more pressure? A 20mph slide and bang, or 300kph with untold forces? Imagine that happening at speed?

plus, I think they really need some creative crayons for it's birthday.. The black isn't too bad, but hardly original.. and the original blue and white isn't anything to drop the jaw at any more.. and the styling hasn't got too radical either.. Looks alright, but on a bike where the most exciting thing is the integrated front flashers and the strange 'can, makes you think..

[Lou Girardin]

If you sorry arsed whingers (sorry WINJA) bought a DECENT bike like a Harley you wouldn't have all these shit quality problems!!


(Turns and dives into shit-and-slang-proof bunker and cuddles beautifully painted and nyloc'd and loc-tighted Harley!)

Yep, can't complain about Harley quality! :whistle:

[Lou Girardin]

I love this, people buy featherweight crotch rockets that get ever lighter, then complain when things break. If you want durability buy a bike with a steel frame, like a ...........................BANDIT! :2thumbsup

[onearmedbandit]

I take it that you taking the piss there Lou...

[vifferman]

I don't see the problem. Although there have been bikes that have had frames crack during normal use, if the frame breaks like this during a not-insignificant impact, so what? If it hadn't broken, it almost certainly would've bent, so would've needed replacing anyway.

As for checking bolts, screws, etc. on a daily basis - I've never had any bolts work loose that I can remember, apart from some very expensive fairing fastener of the Dzus variety that I neglected to fasten after fairing removal and replacement. I do check tyre pressures and chain tension semi-regularly, as well as brake and indicator lights, but all I do on a daily basis is kick the tyres and test the brakes before I ride off. Anything that's fallen off (apart from me) has been due to breakage caused by hitting something.

[Lou Girardin]

I take it that you taking the piss there Lou...

Who?
Me?
Never!

[onearmedbandit]

No course not Lou...., shooting straight from the hip as usual eh......

[spudchucka]

And this man is a law enforcement officer. Don't they make you take a physcological test before joining the poleece?? (P/T)
I used to own a Harley but I never told them that when I applied. Don't know what ScumDog's excuse is???

[erik]

I don't see the problem. Although there have been bikes that have had frames crack during normal use, if the frame breaks like this during a not-insignificant impact, so what? If it hadn't broken, it almost certainly would've bent, so would've needed replacing anyway.




I'm inclined to agree. If you consider the harley was also going at approximately 20mph, that's a combined speed of 40mph = 64km/h. That's assuming their guestimates on speed are accurate, I wouldn't be surprised if one or both bikes were going quicker.

The forks and engine of the harley wouldn't have offered much of a cushion, so that's pretty much like crashing into a brick wall at 64km/h. I'd expect that to do a fair bit of damage.

[mikey]

you guys r wank fuck tards. sheep niggers to... baaa .bbbaaaaa


why do cars have crumple zones.

whats going to be safer in a crash? your uncels kingswood or a new pyrus or what ever some safe car.

obviously if they hit each other the kingswood might come off better but!!!!!!!!

kingswoods are a dying race.

go the crumple zones.

fuck the bricks, they kill people

[Bonez]

fuck the bricks, they kill peopleI'm seeing more "bricks" on the road around this nick of the woods. Wonder why??? :weird:

[dangerous]

you guys r wank fuck tards. sheep niggers to... baaa .bbbaaaaa

What sorta shit you on boy............. WTF is a 'sheep nigger' and what ever a 'wank fuck tard' is........................ well it takes one to know one sunny bubbles :clap:

[onearmedbandit]

Do you actually know crumple zones do in a crash Mikey? (And yes I realise that question is open to some smart-arse comments guys)

[scumdog]

I used to own a Harley but I never told them that when I applied. Don't know what ScumDog's excuse is???

Denied I had one when I applied?? :whistle:

Na, they already knew - and had their doubts!!!

[WINJA]

you guys r wank fuck tards. sheep niggers to... baaa .bbbaaaaa


why do cars have crumple zones.

whats going to be safer in a crash? your uncels kingswood or a new pyrus or what ever some safe car.

obviously if they hit each other the kingswood might come off better but!!!!!!!!

kingswoods are a dying race.

go the crumple zones.

fuck the bricks, they kill people
NEED MEDS NOW :rofl:

[mikey]

guns dont kill people 4wds do.

ban the fuckers.

[onearmedbandit]

Mikey, on the sly mate, could you package me up some of what you've been puffing. Sounds pretty hard!!

[scumdog]

guns dont kill people 4wds do.

ban the fuckers.

Quite right mikey, guns are designed to kill and cars including 4wds are not.

So how come so many people a killed by cars???? :whistle:

And people just shrug their shoulder (unless it's somebody they know), imagine the uproar if the deaths per gun owned matched the deaths per car owned? :weird:

Look at the hoopla about 'killer pit-bulls' yet 100's of kids get maimed in road crashes each year.

Look at how willingly people give to help stop child cancer/youth suicide etc yet what response would you get if you went around asking for donations to stop road deaths? :weird: - more preventable than cancer.

[onearmedbandit]

Our whole society relies on the vehicle, from transporting us to work, school etc to transporting the goods we like to consume. Guns.....I could survive in a society without guns and think we all could as well. I've got nothing against guns, done a bit of hunting before, but I feel thats a rather pointless analogy.

[scumdog]

Our whole society relies on the vehicle, from transporting us to work, school etc to transporting the goods we like to consume. Guns.....I could survive in a society without guns and think we all could as well. I've got nothing against guns, done a bit of hunting before, but I feel thats a rather pointless analogy.

Quite right too onearmedbandit!!

Don't get me going on the transport thing, next time you are handy to a factory or business with a heap of employees just watch and see how many workers arrive at work in a vehicle by themselves - often in a SUV or people-mover or some other roadway cluttering vehicle.

If the Gov't (God bless 'em - the rest of us curse 'em) was dead set on freeing up the urban roads they would have car-pool only lanes and extra low rego for smaller vehicles and almost no reg for 'bikes.

Thanfully I only experience traffic problems when I visit the big city.

[Drew]

Whats wrong with the colour of my Suzuki?
The Alstare, is the nicest paint on the 600, but sinse it is a replica, and not a standard paint finish, you must abstain from bringing it into this argument, "you are the weakest link, goodbye." HEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHEHE :rofl:

[dangerous]

guns dont kill people 4wds do.

ban the fuckers.
:clap: mate I have a 4x4 and never killed anyone........ ban them, get real bikes kill to ya twit...... should we ban them :weird: