Our veggie garden

[mashman]

Well we've been pickin over the last few weeks. The kids gettin first taste and then over the next few days munchin away on what was produced. Now i've always hated veggies... pretty much anyone that knows me knows that I don't eat them, never have, never will. Ok, so never isn't strictly true. I have lettuce on my subway :yes:... Anyhoo...

Dwarf Beans - fackin lervely, but didn't last long with me and my eldest daughter kinda nibbling every time we were outside.
Cucumber - Still growing, but we've just picked one and damn there's flavour/taste in there. Not just crispy water :shit:.
Carrots - feckin lovely.
Baby beets coming out next week.
The lettuce were neglected and ain't too happy lookin (although in the early days there was nibblin going on and they were delicious... will definately try them again sometime)
Waiting for the white moths to stop destroying the Broccoli everytime it gets leaves, but they're still growing.
Still waiting for the baby tomatoes to ripen, but there be shitloads of 'em.
Still waiting for the chili's to come through (they seem to have stalled, late planting most likely).
Still waiting for the cauliflower to come through (they seem to have stalled, late planting most likely).
Still waiting for the courgettes to come through (they seem to have stalled, late planting most likely).
Still waiting for the celery to come through (they seem to have stalled, late planting most likely).

The late plantings and most likely's could be something entirely different, but i'll have to research what I did wrong (mainly plant and forget :facepalm:) and learn for the next time.

But a huge thumbs up for the stuff we did get out. Time to find out what grows in the winter, if anything :).

[george formby]

Tatties! Seem to grow all the time in my garden, just keep popping up.

[mashman]

Tatties! Seem to grow all the time in my garden, just keep popping up.

heh, potatoes are pretty much my staple diet (in chipped form usually :), so I don;t class them as a veggie :shifty:) and we never planted any :rofl: :facepalm:

I've just reclaimed the chilli, lettuce (i did rescue some of it, feckin lervely :yes:) and celery patches for imminent totty planting. Will probably try some leeks and Brussel Parps too.

Anyone got a fave tasty winter veggie they'd suggest?

[SMOKEU]

Try growing some jalapenos next season, and some Naga Jolokia.

You forgot to mention your dope plants you had hiding in your "veggie" garden.

[mashman]

Try growing some jalapenos next season, and some Naga Jolokia.

You forgot to mention your dope plants you had hiding in your "veggie" garden.

We tried some chilli's this time around and they didn't take for some reason, but will give the Jalapenos a shot next to for sure... perfect on pizza :)

:rofl: the tomato plants are baby ones and would be dwarfed by a dope plant, that and the neighbours would likely nick 'em... i'd love a place in the country though :)

[Ratti]

spinach is good in winter. brassicas should have been planted ages ago, they take forever to grow this time of year. more beets, garlic, maybe swedes or turnips? Dont like them myself, but some people do.
There is a hardly winter lettuce if you want to give it a shot? supermarkets will have them in those paper parcels on the stand.

[Woodman]

I grew chillies one year in a big pot. put them in a place wher the sun shone all day and watered thyem daily and fed them tomatoe food. They grew gangbusters, had a huge bagfull and just kept them in the freezer, grabbing one or two when I wanted . Lasted ages.

Good onya for growing your own, a lot of folk are doing it now or going to farmers markets cos supermarkets are supplying absolute shit these days.

[SMOKEU]

We tried some chilli's this time around and they didn't take for some reason, but will give the Jalapenos a shot next to for sure... perfect on pizza :)

:rofl: the tomato plants are baby ones and would be dwarfed by a dope plant, that and the neighbours would likely nick 'em... i'd love a place in the country though :)

Just tie your weed plants down so they don't grow tall. They're not so easy to spot then.

[Brian d marge]

Ok have

Cauliflower 6 of em worth a punt to see what happens

peas

beans ( red kidney bean , I m not sure as its in Japanese )

Potatoes in pots , lots of pot er pots

Pumpkin

Garlic nearly ready to harvest

Sunny lettuce ( Whoops went over board ....have that hanging in pots around the fence)

Goya make ya live longer

Chillies ( haven't planted that yet but it will be sunny how deep does the pot have to be ???)

Broccoli need more as we use it for salads


Rosemary , spearmint , peppermint , wild strawberries , raspberries and a few flowers mixed in

Well the whole lot is mixed up , I decided not to have a neat and tidy garden, just one big mess of green and color

The BBC has been a good web site , but any help or hints PLEASE !!!!

Good thread

Stephen

[Highlander]

Check this out (http://www.yates.co.nz/products/seeds/vegetables/) for info about what to plant when.

Always tastes better home grown.

[mashman]

Just tie your weed plants down so they don't grow tall. They're not so easy to spot then.

:rofl: stop it you wicked wicked man... i'd end up gettin busted in about 2 seconds flat (cops 2 doors up on both sides of the road)... do they grow well in winter, dammit no NO... you bastard.........


Check this out (http://www.yates.co.nz/products/seeds/vegetables/) for info about what to plant when.

Always tastes better home grown.

Cheers for that... i'm gonna need more wood and soil.

[mashman]

Potatoes in pots , lots of pot er pots


Me mum, after roaring with laughter at the idea of me growing veggies, told me to get discarded tyres, 2 deep, and place them on top of a piece of carpet, fill 'em with soil, plant til my hearts content... I'll get there :)... cheers all for the suggestion.



make ya live longer


Oh good god no.

[george formby]

Me mum, after roaring with laughter at the idea of me growing veggies, told me to get discarded tyres, 2 deep, and place them on top of a piece of carpet, fill 'em with soil, plant til my hearts content... I'll get there :)... cheers all for the suggestion.





Tatties in tires works great. Trick is to keep them warm. Agria. Mmmm, best for mash & bloody big chips IMHO.

Rocquette & Coriander do good in winter, they don't bolt.

Grow your hemp in coils of clear ducting conduit. :shutup:

Get a compost bin too..

[mashman]

Tatties in tires works great. Trick is to keep them warm. Agria. Mmmm, best for mash & bloody big chips IMHO.

Rocquette & Coriander do good in winter, they don't bolt.

Grow your hemp in coils of clear ducting conduit. :shutup:

Get a compost bin too..

That's the problem I guess, keeping things warm. Guess that's why the tyres make sense.

:rofl:@hemp... why is everyone wanting me to grow, ahem, hemp... I'd love to, but living in the burbs with cops on all sides would be pushing it a tad :)

+1 on the bin. That's something i've been meaning to do that for a while, just can't afford it at the mo :).

Thanks all for the suggestions, keep 'em coming as I'll likely head out on a skip raid over the next few days for materials.

[george formby]

That's the problem I guess, keeping things warm. Guess that's why the tyres make sense.

:rofl:@hemp... why is everyone wanting me to grow, ahem, hemp... I'd love to, but living in the burbs with cops on all sides would be pushing it a tad :)

+1 on the bin. That's something i've been meaning to do that for a while, just can't afford it at the mo :).

Thanks all for the suggestions, keep 'em coming as I'll likely head out on a skip raid over the next few days for materials.

Derelict wheelie bins are great for composting after a bit of fettling, a few holes to let the air in & a big hole to get the compost out.

[mashman]

Derelict wheelie bins are great for composting after a bit of fettling, a few holes to let the air in & a big hole to get the compost out.

time to put my innate scouse skills to use :rofl: cool tip (no pun intended, kinda :)).

[Ratti]

http://www.kingsseeds.co.nz/ great seeds and info here as well.

there is a gardening group Mash...

all my veges are in tyres, dont need a compost bin, just chuck it all straight in the tyres. You can come and have a look at what I have going if you like Mash. I can talk you through the sorts of things you need to think about. Bring the kids as we have chooks, and guinea pigs

[SMOKEU]

:rofl: stop it you wicked wicked man... i'd end up gettin busted in about 2 seconds flat (cops 2 doors up on both sides of the road)... do they grow well in winter, dammit no NO... you bastard.........



Cheers for that... i'm gonna need more wood and soil.

Get an indoor setup then. Line a cupboard with tin foil (to reflect the light and heat) then make small hole in the floor of the cupboard. Install an extractor fan going into the attic with a filter to get rid of the smell, and around 200w of lighting and you're all set.

[FJRider]

Get an indoor setup then. Line a cupboard with tin foil (to reflect the light and heat) then make small hole in the floor of the cupboard. Install an extractor fan going into the attic with a filter to get rid of the smell, and around 200w of lighting and you're all set.

Considering the power companies notify police of unusual ... or high power use ... he may get a "visit" anyway ...

[Berries]

Try growing some jalapenos next season, and some Naga Jolokia.
Mmm chillies. Pickled a bucket of jals yesterday and am about to go out and harvest my bhut jolokias and orange habs for an afternoon of sauce making before the frosts do them in.

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[SMOKEU]

Mmm chillies. Pickled a bucket of jals yesterday and am about to go out and harvest my bhut jolokias and orange habs for an afternoon of sauce making before the frosts do them in.

236257

Those Jolokias are bloody hard to grow in NZ outdoors aren't they? Mine never really took off that well.

[Berries]

Wouldn't have a chance this far south without a greenhouse.

[mashman]

http://www.kingsseeds.co.nz/ great seeds and info here as well.

there is a gardening group Mash...

all my veges are in tyres, dont need a compost bin, just chuck it all straight in the tyres. You can come and have a look at what I have going if you like Mash. I can talk you through the sorts of things you need to think about. Bring the kids as we have chooks, and guinea pigs

Will drop ya a PM when we're comin through that way (which isn't often)... i'd be keen to see that. One of the kids is kinda squeally around chooks, and when i say kinda, i'm sure there are whales and dolphins flipping out in the ocean when she lets rip...

[mashman]

Get an indoor setup then. Line a cupboard with tin foil (to reflect the light and heat) then make small hole in the floor of the cupboard. Install an extractor fan going into the attic with a filter to get rid of the smell, and around 200w of lighting and you're all set.

:rofl: if i touched this place it'd likely fall down about my ears and as FJ says, I bet a 200w bulb would cause a bit of a spike in our power usage, even during the day :)... I ain't that fussed, if i get offered a smoke, i'll generally take it, but don't go out of my way to get the stuff... but it is a bloody tempting idea :rofl:

[cave weta]

All this talk of "buying compost bins and modifying wheelie bins" PFFFT!
Compost bins work best when in contact with the ground and when they are airated.
Now listen carefully -for I shall say this only once.

visit the rear of your corner dairy and borrow 7 bread trays, wire them together so that they form two bins side by side - fill one at a time. when second one is full- the first should be ready to use. Each spring I have enough compost to dig into my
20 square mtre vegeplot.
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[pete376403]

Tatties in tires works great. Trick is to keep them warm. Agria. Mmmm, best for mash & bloody big chips IMHO..

As the potato plant grows you can keep on adding another tyre and filling with soil, and the plant will keep on growing up. I think the most we've ever had is 6 or 7 tyres high. When the plant dies off, remove the tyres and you'll have (should have) a stack of potatoes about a metre tall.

[SMOKEU]

Does anyone else here grow tobacco? I've got a very nice looking tobacco plant that should be ready to start harvesting soon.

[cave weta]

Does anyone else here grow tobacco? I've got a very nice looking tobacco plant that should be ready to start harvesting soon.

Ive got friends who grew some... you have to blend it with other strains to get something smokable.
Theirs was obviously VILE!
I watched as they attepted to inhale it as their faces turned purple :sick:and the viens on their forheads bulged and they erupted in phlem and snot spraying fits of coughing


Hillarious!:corn:

[Brian d marge]

Grow your hemp in coils of clear ducting conduit. :shutup:

Get a compost bin too..

there is a computer case that acts like a mini grow room ... I heard that ... from a friend honest ...

Stephen

[Brian d marge]

As the potato plant grows you can keep on adding another tyre and filling with soil, and the plant will keep on growing up. I think the most we've ever had is 6 or 7 tyres high. When the plant dies off, remove the tyres and you'll have (should have) a stack of potatoes about a metre tall.

do you cover the plant that is sticking out the top or leave it showing ( a little ) ???

Stephen

[SMOKEU]

Ive got friends who grew some... you have to blend it with other strains to get something smokable.
Theirs was obviously VILE!
I watched as they attepted to inhale it as their faces turned purple :sick:and the viens on their forheads bulged and they erupted in phlem and snot spraying fits of coughing


Hillarious!:corn:

Add some weeds to it and it tastes way better.

I've found that it takes a few months to cure it properly, and it has to be cut up very finely otherwise it won't burn properly.

[puddytat]

Anyone got a fave tasty winter veggie they'd suggest?

Russian Red Kale,frost hardy & beautiful steamed & lovely & sweet raw in salads...
Miners lettuce....plant anywhere & forget,it'll self seed & come back every year & in late winter early spring youll have beautiful fleshy leaved salad material WAY before anything else
Carrots...'cause they keep best in the ground & only get woody in Spring.But you have to plant ahead for that to happen....Same with Beetroot. Both best grated RAW:yes:
Staggering your planting will spread the yield & some stuff will take several months because thereof.

[mashman]

Staggering your planting will spread the yield & some stuff will take several months because thereof.

Aye, that's the next step. Getting the garden setup to handle the volume of veggies, and potentially fruit trees/bushes, that I'm gonna need... then staggering for variety (albeit the potatoes will be a constant feature I hope) etc... I've only got a 7.1 X 1.2 planter at the moment, but have about 30 metres of fence line that's begging to be used :yes:. Tis gonna take time though :shutup:.

[MisterD]

Waiting for the white moths to stop destroying the Broccoli everytime it gets leaves, but they're still growing.

Plant marigolds around them, the smell seems to keep a lot of insects away.

[mashman]

Plant marigolds around them, the smell seems to keep a lot of insects away.

I saw some dear old lady (on close-up i think), maintaining a convent plot, and she was explaining what to plant where and why to keep A away from B... can't for the life of me find it and am thinking about joining a convent to find out :shifty:

[Ratti]

http://www.kings.co.nz/Growing+Guides/Companion+Planting+Chart.html


god helps those who help themselves....but in this case, I will help you!

[Brian d marge]

Just watched a video on Square foot gardening, Makes a lot of sense

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square_foot_gardening

Stephen

Now how to Maximize the vertical space

Stephen

[Ratti]

I use a variation on this method, but call mine '9 square'..cos I was a quilter in another life...

a 3x3 square of car tyres is very similar. each tyre is a unit and the centre is divided into 4 units. Works very well and makes for an interesting garden. even more so as I let one of eveything go to seed in eech box and just thin out what we dont need. masses of lettuce seeds make a great living mulch that you can eat as leaflings..or whatever it is you call small lettuce plants. Only get the odd weed around the edges really and its not a problem to whip the buggers out and feed them to the piggles or the chooks

[mashman]

My Tomatoes have blight according to t'internet. Which isn't a completely bad thing as they're just starting to ripen en masse. Not sure what's causing it as there seem to be multiple possible reasons. But I am trying a little experiment, and it certainly isn't getting worse at the moment.

I brought one of the smaller tomato plants inside about 2 weeks ago and have "planted" it in a plastic container filled with water and mixed with a bunnings general mixture hydroponic nutrient mix. It seems to have stemmed the blight. I'm yet to add a water pump, and potentially artificial light.

Do you reckon I should cut out the blighty bits?

[Ratti]

Depends...are intending to smoke the blighty bits of your tomatos?

How many leaves on each plant are affected. it may not be blight, its the time of the year when toms die off anyway. with the cold and shorter daylight hours, they are going to yellow and get splotchy looking.

[mashman]

Depends...are intending to smoke the blighty bits of your tomatos?

How many leaves on each plant are affected. it may not be blight, its the time of the year when toms die off anyway. with the cold and shorter daylight hours, they are going to yellow and get splotchy looking.

:rofl: I high ly doubt it :). No. It's a tomato plant.

Nearly all of the leaves have some form of blight (mainly on the edges), but it is lightening and dying at the moment. They're baby Tomatoes. But they are just starting to take colour (planeted late), although think it's time for them to come off and ripen in a bowl. Tis getting orrid out there. But that does seem to mean that the white moths have fooked off and my broccoli are starting to come back. Gotta get the potatoes in... and anything else I can think of at the time.