4 wheels... but damn I want it.

[Brett]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Audi/auction-367476409.htm

This is exactly the car i have been looking for for the past year, and when I do find one, cashflow is too tight to justify buying it. GAY. But damn I really really want to say screw it and go for it. Wife would absolutely kill me and so would the accountant.

[slowpoke]

Supercar performance with wagon practicality...great way to haul the toys!

[JimO]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Audi/auction-367476409.htm

This is exactly the car i have been looking for for the past year, and when I do find one, cashflow is too tight to justify buying it. GAY. But damn I really really want to say screw it and go for it. Wife would absolutely kill me and so would the accountant.

wait a couple of years and you will be able to buy the same car for 50k

[Oblivion]

Alternatively, you could drop a few accessories. Like the seats. And the carpet, steering wheel, rims, doors and so on. After that I think it might be affordable. :yes:

[Gubb]

It's no RS6.

:oi-grr:

[LBD]

yup me too.... nice car

[Brett]

It's no RS6.

:oi-grr:

Yeah but it is also 60-70k cheaper and much less costly to maintain than the RS6 with its Lamborghini developed engine. The RS6 goes like a supercar but costs every bit what a supercar does to maintain.

[YellowDog]

yup me too.... nice car

I'd say "get a Subaru", same car but half the price.

But of course I'd be Bull Shitting you.

Best to avoid temptation by not looking until you are ready :yes:

[Brett]

wait a couple of years and you will be able to buy the same car for 50k

You can pick up higher mileage units from 2006 for $60k or so at the moment. My neighbour was willing to pass his one with 101,000kms off for a circa $60k offer. However, I want either a white or black Avant with no more than 40,000kms and either the Ibis white or black optics option kit. Those draw a premium, but I figure if I am (eventually) going to sink that sort of coin into a cage, then I am going to keep it for a while and there is no point compromising too much.
That said, gotta get the money coming in a bit faster before I can chuck this sort of money into a car. Damn recession.

[Smifffy]

The good thing is it is a wagon, so will it have enough room for your furniture etc. You could always live in it.

[Brett]

The good thing is it is a wagon, so will it have enough room for your furniture etc. You could always live in it.

Hmm...water bed in the back of an RS4...now there's an idea. Don't think the seat fold down though and bucket seats are not the greatest to sleep in...tried it in my S4 that is now no longer with us.

[SMOKEU]

I want one of these http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Volkswagen/touareg/auction-366916610.htm

5L V10 diesel.

[blackdog]

I want one of these http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Cars/Volkswagen/touareg/auction-366916610.htm

5L V10 diesel.

relevant how?

fucking monkey.

[SMOKEU]

relevant how?

fucking monkey.

Have you got some sort of problem with me again?

[blackdog]

Have you got some sort of problem with me again?

hehe, headline reads..

'smokeu wins award for easiest KB'er to wind up'

:rofl:

[SMOKEU]

hehe, headline reads..

'smokeu wins award for easiest KB'er to wind up'

:rofl:

I'll take that as a no. I will try to remember not to feed the troll.

[Brett]

I'd say "get a Subaru", same car but half the price.

But of course I'd be Bull Shitting you.

Best to avoid temptation by not looking until you are ready :yes:

Too late to avoid the temptation....now I have a slightly unhealthy obsession. Someone needs to buy that thing so that I can get it out of my mind!

Re: Subaru comment, same thing could go for an Evo as for the Sti. Could get a mint condition model of either for ~$40k, chuck $20k in mods and it will outperform the RS4 any day of the week and cost less to maintain. HOWEVER...it really doesn't matter because but it is kinda like comparing a GSXR1000 to a Ducati Desmocedici RR.

[aprilia_RS250]

If you have a fast bike why would you buy a fast German s/w with a turbo for 110k! Are you nuts! That's is a really bad economical decision to make.

Think of it this way.

1 Years of Insurance for 110k car ~2-3k
Annual depreciation in years 1,2,3 is 40k,20k,10k respectively.

So will you get ~42k of enjoyment in the first year?

Where as a Subaru station wagon bought for 10k will cost ya ~2k...

[Grubber]

If you have a fast bike why would you buy a fast German s/w with a turbo for 110k! Are you nuts! That's is a really bad economical decision to make.

Think of it this way.

1 Years of Insurance for 110k car ~2-3k
Annual depreciation in years 1,2,3 is 40k,20k,10k respectively.

So will you get ~42k of enjoyment in the first year?

Where as a Subaru station wagon bought for 10k will cost ya ~2k...

Yea i kinda agree with this....It's all about economics for me when it comes to cars. Used to buy top line gear only to find all my money was being lost. Invest in housing for long term now and it seems to work a whole lot better. Don't even have a wish list for fancy cars nowadays.

[Brett]

If you have a fast bike why would you buy a fast German s/w with a turbo for 110k! Are you nuts! That's is a really bad economical decision to make.

Think of it this way.

1 Years of Insurance for 110k car ~2-3k
Annual depreciation in years 1,2,3 is 40k,20k,10k respectively.

So will you get ~42k of enjoyment in the first year?

Where as a Subaru station wagon bought for 10k will cost ya ~2k...

No turbo on the RS4, all NA V8 power.

Your depreciation stats are correct for accountancy when writing the book value off, however not for real life. A residual value of $39k after 3 years is about $25k low.
However, it is not always about economics and implicit/explicit costs. When I was younger I always compared vehicles with bang for buck and as I said before, a tin can with a potent 4cyl turbo motor such as an Evo has as much to offer, but drive the Evo then the RS4 and then tell me which one you would take ;).

[EJK]

Call me unwise or "uneconomical" or "Earth destroyer" but I'd take that 324g/km CO2 pumping German beast than a Subaru (if I have the money that is).

Screw depreciation. That's what riches (wealth) are for eh?

[slowpoke]

If you have a fast bike why would you buy a fast German s/w with a turbo for 110k! Are you nuts! That's is a really bad economical decision to make.

Think of it this way.

1 Years of Insurance for 110k car ~2-3k
Annual depreciation in years 1,2,3 is 40k,20k,10k respectively.

So will you get ~42k of enjoyment in the first year?

Where as a Subaru station wagon bought for 10k will cost ya ~2k...

Subaru wagon vs Audi RS4 Avant? That's like comparing Ms Venezuela and Doris from the bingo hall. You could get your rocks off with either one but jeezus, how is that even a choice? Higher entry and maintenance cost but worth every blardy penny....or peso.

But if I have to explain then you're never gonna geddit.....so enjoy Doris, she's all yours!

[Brett]

Subaru wagon vs Audi RS4 Avant? That's like comparing Ms Venezuela and Doris from the bingo hall. You could get your rocks off with either one but jeezus, how is that even a choice? Higher entry and maintenance cost but worth every blardy penny....or peso.

But if I have to explain then you're never gonna geddit.....so enjoy Doris, she's all yours!

I love your analogy. I was trying to think of one myself in my earlier post, but yours is GOLD.

[Brett]

Call me unwise or "uneconomical" or "Earth destroyer" but I'd take that 324g/km CO2 pumping German beast than a Subaru (if I have the money that is).

Screw depreciation. That's what riches (wealth) are for eh?

Can't take all your wealth with you when you die, might as well enjoy a bit of it (responsibly) now.

[EJK]

Can't take all your wealth with you when you die, might as well enjoy a bit of it (responsibly) now.

You'd make a fine Audi sales person.

[Smifffy]

Subaru wagon vs Audi RS4 Avant? That's like comparing Ms Venezuela and Doris from the bingo hall. You could get your rocks off with either one but jeezus, how is that even a choice? Higher entry and maintenance cost but worth every blardy penny....or peso.

But if I have to explain then you're never gonna geddit.....so enjoy Doris, she's all yours!

As an aside, do you know the entry cost for Ms Venezuela? I'd really like to make a deposit.

[aprilia_RS250]

Subaru wagon vs Audi RS4 Avant? That's like comparing Ms Venezuela and Doris from the bingo hall.

But Doris from the bingo hall one day might have been Mrs Venezuela?

From my point of view there is nothing special about it. It's not fast compared to your bike, you can't say you have the fastest s/w because the 18yr old down the street has 15 turbos in his 1980s legacy, you can't just treat it as a normal s/w because you'll be scared of scuffing the expensive leather. It's all a bit pointless. Only place I can really see it on the side of Ponsonby road by some coffee shop with all the other A3s and s4s etc

[EJK]

But Doris from the bingo hall one day might have been Mrs Venezuela?

From my point of view there is nothing special about it. It's not fast compared to your bike, you can't say you have the fastest s/w because the 18yr old down the street has 15 turbos in his 1980s legacy, you can't just treat it as a normal s/w because you'll be scared of scuffing the expensive leather. It's all a bit pointless. Only place I can really see it on the side of Ponsonby road by some coffee shop with all the other A3s and s4s etc

Whatever floats your boat

[Brett]

You'd make a fine Audi sales person.

Thanks. I have actually had it suggested to me that I should work in marketing for Audi. What can I say, I love them.

[Brett]

But Doris from the bingo hall one day might have been Mrs Venezuela?

From my point of view there is nothing special about it. It's not fast compared to your bike, you can't say you have the fastest s/w because the 18yr old down the street has 15 turbos in his 1980s legacy, you can't just treat it as a normal s/w because you'll be scared of scuffing the expensive leather. It's all a bit pointless. Only place I can really see it on the side of Ponsonby road by some coffee shop with all the other A3s and s4s etc

It's not always about being fast. Like you say, got the bikes for that. If it were about the speed, why would an entrepreneuer spend $500k on a Lamborghini LP640 when an out of the box high end sports bike is going to give the same thrill for under $50k? The answer is more than dollars/kph.
To me, the RS4 is a thing of beauty, I love the way it looks, sounds, drives etc. It is like a piece of art. What use is spending $110k on a painting that sits on my wall when I can spend $110k on a car that I enjoy looking at AND driving?

If you don't get it yet, you ain't gonna!

[EJK]

<img alt="FUCK YEAH BABY! THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKIN ABOUT!!!" src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2234/2055049986_5e34d6a86d.jpg" />

This thread needs more pics

[imdying]

They're station wagons... it's not a choice between a hot young latino and an old worn out one, it's a choice between the shit from an alsatian, and the shit from a rotty. Who cares, it's still a piece of shit... might as well get the cheaper one.

[R-Soul]

Yup if it aint about speed, and its about beauty - why a s/w?


So that your dogs can watch out the back window when you burn off a boy racer?
If its about beauty, then go beautiful - like M3 or Alfa Brera... or 1965 SWB Landy! :yes:

[HenryDorsetCase]

It's no RS6.

:oi-grr:

RS8 you mean?

http://www.carblog.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/audi-rs8.jpg

[HenryDorsetCase]

Subaru wagon vs Audi RS4 Avant? That's like comparing Ms Venezuela and Doris from the bingo hall. You could get your rocks off with either one but jeezus, how is that even a choice? Higher entry and maintenance cost but worth every blardy penny....or peso.

But if I have to explain then you're never gonna geddit.....so enjoy Doris, she's all yours!

that Doris is filthy..... just saying: its not like thats a bad deal. When she takes her teeth out.... awesome.

[Gubb]

RS8?

No. no. no. You're doing it wrong.

I'll have the V10 bi-turbo Wagon thanks.

[EJK]

<img width="600" src="http://audir8wallpaper.info/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/audi-a8-image.jpg" />

This thread needs more Audi

[slowpoke]

They're station wagons... it's not a choice between a hot young latino and an old worn out one, it's a choice between the shit from an alsatian, and the shit from a rotty. Who cares, it's still a piece of shit... might as well get the cheaper one.

Haha, nah, I just love the fact that you ( I can't afford it!) could be driving something that is mechanical genius. You could send gran down to the shops in it for her powerball ticket, or you could take it to the track and smoke just about anything that rocks up rain or shine, then cart a few bags of cement for the reno's and park it at the pub and most folks wouldn't look twice at it. No drain pipe exhaust, no wincing at every speed bump, just pure function over form. The utimate Q-ship that will keep up with most exotica but fit the whole family in luxurious comfort.
The sound of that sweet V8 pulling 8krpm is almost worth the price of admission all by itself. Give it 5 years to get into my price range and I'll be all over it.

[Brett]

Haha, nah, I just love the fact that you ( I can't afford it!) could be driving something that is mechanical genius. You could send gran down to the shops in it for her powerball ticket, or you could take it to the track and smoke just about anything that rocks up rain or shine, then cart a few bags of cement for the reno's and park it at the pub and most folks wouldn't look twice at it. No drain pipe exhaust, no wincing at every speed bump, just pure function over form. The utimate Q-ship that will keep up with most exotica but fit the whole family in luxurious comfort.
The sound of that sweet V8 pulling 8krpm is almost worth the price of admission all by itself. Give it 5 years to get into my price range and I'll be all over it.

I think you and I are on the same wave length. Want to be friends? ;)

But seriously, big draw factor for me over say the BMW M3 is the LACK of bling. The M3 (V8 version) is undoubtedly a faster, better handling machine, but it looks like it wants everyone to know that it is. The Audi is a bit more understated.

But hey, courses for horses, not everyone is gonna love them and this is ultimately a bike site so tastes will be altered with that in mind.

[Brett]

They're station wagons... it's not a choice between a hot young latino and an old worn out one, it's a choice between the shit from an alsatian, and the shit from a rotty. Who cares, it's still a piece of shit... might as well get the cheaper one.

Interestingly, the Avant (s/w) fetches a $15-$20k premium over a sedan...

[DangerMice]

Love the RS4, but jebus, the centre console on that Touareg is a UI designer's nightmare (photo 16)

[R-Soul]

that Doris is filthy..... just saying: its not like thats a bad deal. When she takes her teeth out.... awesome.


hehe yeah one of the benefits of old age - if us men can actually live that long, we are sitting pretty...

[BMWST?]

I think you and I are on the same wave length. Want to be friends? ;)

But seriously, big draw factor for me over say the BMW M3 is the LACK of bling. The M3 (V8 version) is undoubtedly a faster, better handling machine, but it looks like it wants everyone to know that it is. The Audi is a bit more understated.

But hey, courses for horses, not everyone is gonna love them and this is ultimately a bike site so tastes will be altered with that in mind.

joe bloggs cant really tell the difference between a m3 or a 330...i will have my german cars from the spinning propeller boys thanks...535d touring for me please

[meteor]

This is exactly the car i have been looking for....

Egzackery, hell yes. That's just poetry! Gotta admire those euro's, they sure know how to put cars together.

[Laava]

Subaru wagon vs Audi RS4 Avant? That's like comparing Ms Venezuela and Doris from the bingo hall. You could get your rocks off with either one but jeezus, how is that even a choice? Higher entry and maintenance cost but worth every blardy penny....or peso.

But if I have to explain then you're never gonna geddit.....so enjoy Doris, she's all yours!

This is only relevant with the lights on! Plus you will get sick of your mates drooling over Ms Venezuela

[Edbear]

Can't take all your wealth with you when you die, might as well enjoy a bit of it (responsibly) now.

Don't you just hate that word at times..?


RS8 you mean?

http://www.carblog.co.za/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/audi-rs8.jpg

Now you're talking! V10 version please! :yes:

Hmmmm.... Our mortgage is up for review.... :innocent: