Crown property purchase on cards

[mashman]

So the law doesn't move quickly eh, read today, implemented tomorrow (baaaaaaaah) (http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/9185016/crown-property-purchase-on-cards/). I'm not quite sure that I understand what the problem is. Does the taxpayer compensate the "owner" as the govt have forced themselves, being compulsory and all, to buy up the private property? If so, I don't like it one bit!

Anyone shed a different light on it?

[oneofsix]

So the law doesn't move quickly eh, read today, implemented tomorrow (baaaaaaaah) (http://nz.news.yahoo.com/a/-/top-stories/9185016/crown-property-purchase-on-cards/). I'm not quite sure that I understand what the problem is. Does the taxpayer compensate the "owner" as the govt have forced themselves, being compulsory and all, to buy up the private property? If so, I don't like it one bit!

Anyone shed a different light on it?

The problem will be similar to the one faced by business owners in the red district. No appeal or effective control processes. Wasn't until the business owners took matters into their own hands and forced their way into the red zone that anyone started to look at what was happening and the cowboy demolition companys were stopped. This emergency total power game worries me as it sets precedence. And yes, we the tax payer will be the ones paying so that some big company like Fletchers ends up owning heaps of valuable property, we will be lucky if its an NZ company like Fletchers.

[mashman]

fooksake... and how about CBD land? Will those who own the land in the CBD have their assets forceably removed (when i say forceably i mean paid hansomely for from the tax payers purse)?

[Grumph]

As I understand this it's being introduced to try and facilitate the land swap which the Nats have talked about as one way to get people off Bexley...
But given the sweeping powers of the Commissioner I wouldn't trust them an inch.

Mashman I'd think the only way it would be invoked in the CBD is if some piece of land is judged as unsafe to rebuild on and it should be bought, then to revert to Council administered open space.

I find it somewhat amusing that Mashman is concentrating on the cost to himself as a taxpayer....do you realise that this a National state of emergency and Brownlie can come and condemm your own house even though it's out of ChCh....
Please supply your adress and I'll see what strings I can pull.....for the full ChCh experience.

[oneofsix]

As I understand this it's being introduced to try and facilitate the land swap which the Nats have talked about as one way to get people off Bexley...
But given the sweeping powers of the Commissioner I wouldn't trust them an inch.

Mashman I'd think the only way it would be invoked in the CBD is if some piece of land is judged as unsafe to rebuild on and it should be bought, then to revert to Council administered open space.

I find it somewhat amusing that Mashman is concentrating on the cost to himself as a taxpayer....do you realise that this a National state of emergency and Brownlie can come and condemm your own house even though it's out of ChCh....
Please supply your adress and I'll see what strings I can pull.....for the full ChCh experience.

come come, Mashman, like me, lives in what used to be NZs most talked about as quake prone city. Therefore what happens in Chch could and very likely will happen here or hereabouts. Might not be a good place to own a hobby farm, sorry lifestyle block, in the near future given that you might not own it for long.

[ellipsis]

...brownlee changed laws within minutes of the september quake...labour laws...couldn't have been a more opportune time for the prick...anything to do with the 'rebuild' seemed to be ok in a lot of peoples eyes...after all this was the biggest emergency...and smokescreen, the powermongers have had in years...trusting the fox to guard the chookhouse...this is as much about 'power', as 'rebuild'...

[mashman]

As I understand this it's being introduced to try and facilitate the land swap which the Nats have talked about as one way to get people off Bexley...
But given the sweeping powers of the Commissioner I wouldn't trust them an inch.


That's pretty much where i'm coming from. They already have emergency powers, they could use those for the Bexley situation and many other situations. Why the need to ram legislation through, that forces the govt to buy private land that, I can only assume, meets a certain set of criteria?



Mashman I'd think the only way it would be invoked in the CBD is if some piece of land is judged as unsafe to rebuild on and it should be bought, then to revert to Council administered open space.


Is this to cover those that didn't have insurance?



I find it somewhat amusing that Mashman is concentrating on the cost to himself as a taxpayer....do you realise that this a National state of emergency and Brownlie can come and condemm your own house even though it's out of ChCh....
Please supply your adress and I'll see what strings I can pull.....for the full ChCh
experience.
yeah, the cost to myself, that's what's driving me :blink:, and funny you're not the only one to have "pulled me up" on that phrase either. I'm fully aware that even if i did own my own home, even if it had been in my family for generations, that it could still be reappropriated for whatever purposes the govt of the day deem fit... and at any time and irrespective of circumstance.

As oneofsix says, I didn't move here just in case there wasn't going to be an earthquake. And Japan is worse than Chch :shit:. I know how lucky I am Grumph. Thanks for your wishes :).

[Grumph]

Is this to cover those that didn't have insurance?

In the case of the CBD I'd very much doubt it...most if not all of the CBD should have been insured - maybe with the odd exception of run down sites waiting for development. In which case they've probably been cleared of buildings at your expense....

As I hear it any compulsory purchases should be in the Eastern suburbs - and given that most of the housing in the bad parts of Bexley was built quite recently I'd think there are very few uninsured properties there.