Should we let the Kakapo die out?

[shrub]

Found this on The Press website (http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/south-island/4882013/Kakapo-not-worth-the-effort) today, and I have to agree. Yeah, the Kakapo is all good and everything, but why are we spending a brazillian dollars keeping a few dozen alive? We won't ever get to see one cruising around the garden, and neither will our kids or even their kids. At best in a hundred years there will be a few hundred alive. Tourists don't come here to see them, they don't support any other species, they're not "iconic" like the Kiwi and they don't really do anything but struggle to stay alive.

Why not take a heap of photos and then just let them die out and put the money into something like the Kiwi or even into planting trees?

[superman]

Found this on The Press website (http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/south-island/4882013/Kakapo-not-worth-the-effort) today, and I have to agree. Yeah, the Kakapo is all good and everything, but why are we spending a brazillian dollars keeping a few dozen alive? We won't ever get to see one cruising around the garden, and neither will our kids or even their kids. At best in a hundred years there will be a few hundred alive. Tourists don't come here to see them, they don't support any other species, they're not "iconic" like the Kiwi and they don't really do anything but struggle to stay alive.

Why not take a heap of photos and then just let them die out and put the money into something like the Kiwi or even into planting trees?

It should be our iconic bird, much cooler looking than the plain bloody Kiwi. And who wants to be iconised with a bird that the Aussies decided to call us after just cause we had one on a boat heading to war. :facepalm:

I would be all for not bothering... but because it's our fault that they have such small numbers we have a responsibility to keep them around. How much worse would it be for our tourism if we just let a species become extinct. As though we don't even give a crap.

[Swoop]

Why not take a heap of photos and then just let them die out and put the money into something like the Kiwi or even into planting trees?
Why let them die out? Auction them off to exotic bird breeders/collectors and they'll make a large wedge of folding for NZ.















j/k (for those with slow braincells)

[avgas]

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo back the fuck up.

When did Australia get a scientist?

Also some should point out that we shoot their national animals here...... so hipocrazy is obvious.

Quite fond of the feathered pig - my fav bird even

[avgas]

Why not take a heap of photos and then just let them die out and put the money into something like the Kiwi or even into planting trees?
Same could be said for the 1970's Triumph Bonneville......But we can't always get what we want ;)

[Jantar]

Why let them die out? Auction them off to exotic bird breeders/collectors and they'll make a large wedge of folding for NZ......

No need for the j/k part at the end. No bird, animal or plant has ever gone exticnt once private breeders or farmers were permitted to breed them.

So the answer is obviously to sell off a couple of breeding pairs to home enthusiasts, and allow them to sell the offspring.

[Laava]

We could breed them to eat? Wonder if they taste as good as kereru?

Anyone remember this?
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[shrub]

Same could be said for the 1970's Triumph Bonneville......But we can't always get what we want ;)

I think I'd probably feel the same way if the government spent a fortune keeping as many old Bonnevilles on the road as possible, but because it's done by private individuals I simply shake my head and wonder why? I owned one 30 years ago and I can still remember when I bought a CB750 marvelling at the power and reliability and not having to keep the thing in my bedroom.

[shrub]

Wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo back the fuck up.

When did Australia get a scientist?


Ages ago. She moved over here about 8 or 9 years ago.

[Sparrowhawk]

From the article

"Professor Bradshaw, said any animal with a population below 5000 had a greater risk of extinction"

Then it's fair to say Aussie Scientists are far more likely to become extinct, there may only be 120 Kakapo, but only 3 or 4 smart aussies (and they all studied here...)

:laugh:

[avgas]

I think I'd probably feel the same way if the government spent a fortune keeping as many old......

Hang on - where do you live again? :corn:
$20b last time I checked.....

[shrub]

Hang on - where do you live again?

New Zealand. You should visit one day.

[avgas]

New Zealand. You should visit one day.
Yeah but where specifically ;)
$20b is no chump change....... Lets start a vote whether Chch should die off and Timaru becomes the next big thing ;)

[shrub]

Yeah but where specifically ;)
$20b is no chump change....... Lets start a vote whether Chch should die off and Timaru becomes the next big thing ;)

It would cost a lot more than $20b to move the existing business and social infrastructure to Timaru. But you're a simple chap and probably didn't understand that.:confused:

[sil3nt]

I would rather pay to keep the kakapo alive than pay to keep some lazy cuntbag alive to sit on a couch all day and watch tv or to keep someone alive so they can rot in jail.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I would rather pay to keep the kakapo alive than pay to keep some lazy cuntbag alive to sit on a couch all day and watch tv or to keep someone alive so they can rot in jail.

I sort of agree with your sentiment, (if not the rather inelegant way you've expressed it).

But yeah, I'm all about the kakapo. I prefer them to kiwi even. Lot more personality.

Fairly hard to breed in captivity too (given their reproductive cycle is governed by the fruit of the rimu tree.... ). Plus its the right thing to do: they werent threatened till stoats and cats and weasels etc were introduced.

[Pussy]

I would rather pay to keep the kakapo alive than pay to keep some lazy cuntbag alive to sit on a couch all day and watch tv or to keep someone alive so they can rot in jail.

Yep, Spot ON!
Let a few career beneficiaries fend for themselves, and spend that dosh on the Kakapo. Sorted! :)

[avgas]

It would cost a lot more than $20b to move the existing business and social infrastructure to Timaru. But you're a simple chap and probably didn't understand that.:confused:
What ground do you base those assumptions on:shutup:

[shrub]

What ground do you base those assumptions on:shutup:

My first assumption is based on simple economics - ChCh is a city with a population of around around 350,000 in the main urban area that provides key infrastructure services for around another 250,000 in the West Coast and Canterbury. it has New Zealand's second largest international airport, the largest general hospital in the south island and one of New Zealands leading orthopaedic hospitals at Burwood. It has a major university, several other tertiary institutes including CPIT as well as several highly regarded private and public schools. Moving that infrastructure alone, as well as the many thousands of people involved in the operation would cost well in excess of $20bn. WHen you consider the many industries that have their base here, including some of New Zealand's key exporters, even suggesting moving Christchurch due to the cost supports my second assumption.

Hope that helped you.:)

[pete376403]

Take the money they are planning on saving on legal aid and spend it on the kakapo. Fiscally neutral, and a better class of animal benefits.

As for numbers, the Black Robin was more endangered, and was successfully saved.

[Woodman]

one word.

BATTERY FARM

[pete376403]

Thats two words

[shrub]

one word.

BATTERY FARM

They make batteries in factories not farms.

Farming dental floss is a good idea though. I might be moving to Montana soon, gonna be a dental floss tycoon.

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[avgas]

My first assumption......
AYA?!!..... you failed to see the the low flying aircraft overhead?????.........
nevermind.......

Back to topic.
Kakapo cost $1M/pa to keep going. Most is provided by Rio Tinto.
So hardly breaking the bank.

Battery farms are a failed industry - they keep trying to commit suicide on the fence
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[Banditbandit]

I sort of agree with your sentiment, (if not the rather inelegant way you've expressed it).

But yeah, I'm all about the kakapo. I prefer them to kiwi even. Lot more personality.



Personality? A bird of dull green colour, intelligence to match, whose defense mechanism is to act like a shrub and who goes HOOOUM loudly at night .... ????

They are an evolutionary dead end ... and should be left to die out ... Humans are only partly responsible for their extinction ... and if we had not come along the Kakapo woud have died out anyway ..

[shrub]

Personality? A bird... whose defense mechanism is to act like a shrub...

What? Piss around on KB winding people up when they should be working? No wonder they're dying out.

[Okey Dokey]

Our government spends so much money on things I don't agree with, but I do support keeping the kakapo species going. Better than the Rugby World Cup which is going to cost several million. Bah!

[avgas]

Personality? A bird of dull green colour, intelligence to match, whose defense mechanism is to act like a shrub and who goes HOOOUM loudly at night .... ????

They are an evolutionary dead end ... and should be left to die out ... Humans are only partly responsible for their extinction ... and if we had not come along the Kakapo woud have died out anyway ..
Replace the word Kakapo with Maori......... Humans with europeans......
hehehe:corn:
Yes I am shit stirring.......but its fun:drinkup:

[Banditbandit]

What? Piss around on KB winding people up when they should be working? No wonder they're dying out.

:rofl: Oh .. sorry .. that was completely unnoticed and unintentional ... (but actually bloody funny in the end ...)

[Banditbandit]

Replace the word Kakapo with Maori......... Humans with europeans......
hehehe:corn:
Yes I am shit stirring.......but its fun:drinkup:

Yeah .. it was that ...

[T.W.R]

Ages ago. She moved over here about 8 or 9 years ago.

:lol:.....................:shutup: plenty of other narratives could be used for that one :yes:

[CookMySock]

Sell the last breeding pair to a restaurant and put that meal on ebay. How often do you get to dine on the last breeding pair of a species? :woohoo:

Yeh yeh I know I'm terrible. :innocent:

[shrub]

Sell the last breeding pair to a restaurant and put that meal on ebay. How often do you get to dine on the last breeding pair of a species? :woohoo:

Yeh yeh I know I'm terrible. :innocent:

Or let it out that eating Kakapo guarantee your gentleman sausage doubles in size. Look how much money a rhino is worth compared to a cattle beast?

[Camshaft]

I would rather pay to keep the kakapo alive than pay to keep some lazy cuntbag alive to sit on a couch all day and watch tv or to keep someone alive so they can rot in jail.

fucking aye to this!!!!!