Bulk transport for Nationals 2012

[White trash]

A very good idea raised by Drew in another thread deserves some conversation I believe.

The majority of club level racers NOT competeing in the full Nationals mention the cost of travel as their biggest concern for not attending meetings on the other Island. If we can address this, we can potentialy boost the grids to a significatnt level.

I have a fairly good plan that with a little fine tuning, could be massively succesfull.

For a very reasonable fee, I'm pretty sure I can cart bikes from the NI to each of the SI rounds and SI competitor bikes to each of the NI rounds. Essentially, each participant would be allocated space in a 40' container. A decent amount of space would be provided, enough for bike, spares, tools and pit tents and riding gear. The container would have to be modified and therefore purchased so there's a little setup expense but I can work this out. Container would be dropped at each tracks pits @ gate open time of the test Friday, and collected at the latest possible time Sunday evening. Competitors would be responsible for geting themselves to each track, their personal transport and accomodation and unpacking/repacking their own stuff from the box. You'd also be responsible for getting your gear and bikes to the first load point on each Island.

Now I already have a figure in mind of what such a service would be good value at, but what are you guys thoughts? Anyone see a benefit here and would it work?

I have all the contacts within the transport industry and know I can make it work. What it would take, is a firm commitment from a decent number of competitors about three months out from the first round.

If enough people think it's a good idea and has merit, please post your thoughts, ideas and concerns here. I'll start making enquiries and sorting out total costs to see if it's acheivable within the majority of posters oppinion of reasonable fee for the service.

[Biggles08]

A very good idea raised by Drew in another thread deserves some conversation I believe.

The majority of club level racers NOT competeing in the full Nationals mention the cost of travel as their biggest concern for not attending meetings on the other Island. If we can address this, we can potentialy boost the grids to a significatnt level.

I have a fairly good plan that with a little fine tuning, could be massively succesfull.

For a very reasonable fee, I'm pretty sure I can cart bikes from the NI to each of the SI rounds and SI competitor bikes to each of the NI rounds. Essentially, each participant would be allocated space in a 40' container. A decent amount of space would be provided, enough for bike, spares, tools and pit tents and riding gear. The container would have to be modified and therefore purchased so there's a little setup expense but I can work this out. Container would be dropped at each tracks pits @ gate open time of the test Friday, and collected at the latest possible time Sunday evening. Competitors would be responsible for geting themselves to each track, their personal transport and accomodation and unpacking/repacking their own stuff from the box. You'd also be responsible for getting your gear and bikes to the first load point on each Island.

Now I already have a figure in mind of what such a service would be good value at, but what are you guys thoughts? Anyone see a benefit here and would it work?

I have all the contacts within the transport industry and know I can make it work. What it would take, is a firm commitment from a decent number of competitors about three months out from the first round.

If enough people think it's a good idea and has merit, please post your thoughts, ideas and concerns here. I'll start making enquiries and sorting out total costs to see if it's acheivable within the majority of posters oppinion of reasonable fee for the service.

hmmmm....worth some investigation for sure. Not sure if transport is the main problem though Trash...I thought Accomodation and tires are the most $$$ spent. In saying that, reducing costs for privateers in any manner is a good idea and this may suit many.

My transport is sorted but I shall watch this thread with interest.

[White trash]

hmmmm....worth some investigation for sure. Not sure if transport is the main problem though Trash...I thought Accomodation and tires are the most $$$ spent. In saying that, reducing costs for privateers in any manner is a good idea and this may suit many.

My transport is sorted but I shall watch this thread with interest.

Yeah mate, understand. You solo racing primadonnas forget that camping on site is free :)

I know your transport is sorted, but could you give an indication of what your contribution to what South Island transportation for your bike and gear is? I'd be helpfull to compare.

[The Chow]

A very good idea raised by Drew in another thread deserves some conversation I believe.

The majority of club level racers NOT competeing in the full Nationals mention the cost of travel as their biggest concern for not attending meetings on the other Island. If we can address this, we can potentialy boost the grids to a significatnt level.

I have a fairly good plan that with a little fine tuning, could be massively succesfull.

For a very reasonable fee, I'm pretty sure I can cart bikes from the NI to each of the SI rounds and SI competitor bikes to each of the NI rounds. Essentially, each participant would be allocated space in a 40' container. A decent amount of space would be provided, enough for bike, spares, tools and pit tents and riding gear. The container would have to be modified and therefore purchased so there's a little setup expense but I can work this out. Container would be dropped at each tracks pits @ gate open time of the test Friday, and collected at the latest possible time Sunday evening. Competitors would be responsible for geting themselves to each track, their personal transport and accomodation and unpacking/repacking their own stuff from the box. You'd also be responsible for getting your gear and bikes to the first load point on each Island.

Now I already have a figure in mind of what such a service would be good value at, but what are you guys thoughts? Anyone see a benefit here and would it work?

I have all the contacts within the transport industry and know I can make it work. What it would take, is a firm commitment from a decent number of competitors about three months out from the first round.

If enough people think it's a good idea and has merit, please post your thoughts, ideas and concerns here. I'll start making enquiries and sorting out total costs to see if it's acheivable within the majority of posters oppinion of reasonable fee for the service.

Mate , stop making sense. John Woodley did it years ago (not a container) but a large truck. It was the Dunedin festival road race and Guys like Hiscock , Holden all those guys took advantage of it. The idea has so much merit it isn't funny , cuts costs , for everyone. Set it up that the who shoot and shabang just unloads in one area and all the riders under one awning etc.

Mate this bloody good, I hope some of the riders see the merits and I hope you can get something going.

[Tony.OK]

Would certainly help alot Jimmy, if that service was used along with booking flights well in advance (ie cheap) a competitor wouldn't even need to take alot of leave.

When I had thoughts of doing the nats a couple of years ago my biggest worry was that I'd be on my own for the whole 3 weeks in the van, Spud did the fly in fly out trick cause Stroudy carted his bike around, best of both worlds, keep work and the "mrs" happy and get a truckload of tracktime in.

Another possibility perhaps...........what about getting one of the specialized bike moving companies on board, the have the curtain siders all set up, if MNZ was to give them naming rights on an event/class maybe a good deal could be sorted?

Oh and camping and me would be disastrous.......we don't get on at all. 1 night in the van at Paeroa was enough to make me book motels hahaa.

[Drew]

Yip containers is a much better idea than mine of the curtain sider.

To take a sidecar and two people in the ute accross the ditch we were sponsored, and it only cost $150 each way, but we were lucky enough to leave the ute down there for the two weeks and fly in and out, this is not the norm as most people are generally forced to take the fortnight off work and stay down there, so to be fair part of the cost for doing the nationals down south for a North islander is 11 days leave, that can be reduced to only 3 days to get all the Friday practices. Flights remain part of the new plan so cost is moot.

I would imagine a cost of $500-$700 is reasonable, but if costs don't require the fee being that high I think it should be less.

If someone makes a few dollars for the effort of organising then all good, but I see it as needing to be more in the interest of the sport than as a business venture. So would like MNZ to front whatever outlay they can to get the ball rolling.

Lets not forget that these things are mobile 40X10 foot billboards, double sided. That's a large available advertising space for sponsors.

[ajturbo]

I remember a Bucket race at woodburn (SP?) a truck from the norf island turned up and it had bikes EVERYWHERE... they were even lying on top of others... not sure if thay had room for gear.. it was friggin funny...

[scott411]

we have done this with containers and trucks in the past for both mx and cross country races in the south island, it works out very good, alot cheaper, and you can take less days off work

[Kickaha]

Yip containers is a much better idea than mine of the curtain sider.
Sidecars did that at one stage quite some time ago, might have been the Australian Invasion in the mid nineties


To take a sidecar and two people in the ute accross the ditch we were sponsored, and it only cost $150 each way, but we were lucky enough to leave the ute down there for the two weeks and fly in and out, this is not the norm as most people are generally forced to take the fortnight off work and stay down there, .

That's because most people don't organise far enough ahead, we've generally got most stuff booked with a few weeks of National dates coming out as the further ahead you book the cheaper most travel is, I worked it out last year for the Northern guys you could do three rounds with no more than 6-7 days off although that relied on some assistance from guys here driving the gear around

How many sidecars can we fit in 40'?

[R6_kid]

Something similar can easily be done with accommodation and travel. If enough people get together (10-20+) then you should be able to negotiate discounts for flights and hotels/motels.

[ClutchITUP]

The design an build of the interior would be the hard part. To maximise the amount of bikes an gear in the box. 40ft just aint that big Im sure you have seen them come out from Japan packed in like sardines. I think that takes alot off work an tricky tricks to get them like that. I would be concerned about damage to my bike bitching about You had more space an paid the same amount Peoples stuff going missing or being picked by accident Name tags on everything would be a must. The idea should work Scott how did MX do it? Have the dates been set yet? If the ruapuna timaru rounds are run one after the other I could pick it up an take it to either one for the cost of fuel an RUCs everu little bit helps right

[Pussy]

Now you just need some prick who can fly an aeroplane, Jimmy!....

[Paul Searancke]

How many of you have used the members benefits from MNZ? There is a link on the front page of the MNZ website. It has a lot of savings from fuel and accommodation to bike transport.
Paul Searancke

[Kickaha]

How many of you have used the members benefits from MNZ? There is a link on the front page of the MNZ website. It has a lot of savings from fuel and accommodation to bike transport.
Paul Searancke

I've used the Ferry one a few times as have a few others I know

[jellywrestler]

Something similar can easily be done with accommodation and travel. If enough people get together (10-20+) then you should be able to negotiate discounts for flights and hotels/motels.
Count me in , I'll be the designated snorer

[Drew]

How many sidecars can we fit in 40'?

Bugger all really, maybe six with a mix of long and short. Problem with chairs is the extra space of spares compared to solos too.

I think there would need to be three containers minimum if one was to be filled with outfits.

These things would certainly pay for themselves though I think.

The modifications to the containers wouldn't be too hard in my opinion, they're steel so welding in a folding mezzanine floor to get an extra level would be a piece of piss.

Gear going missing and damage to bikes would be pretty easy to avoid, as there would be a set time for unloading, and simply having a ticket number on everything that was taken away could be checked. It'll be a case of four tie downs per bike, with an allocation of space around it, or even just a plywood box beside each bike for that bikes gear. Put wheels on it to get it in and out and lock into place with pins for travel.

The logistics of the container are not a problem, there would need to be a couple engineer type fuckers in on the design, but I can't see anything cropping up to make it not possible.

[Mental Trousers]

Now you just need some prick who can fly an aeroplane, Jimmy!....

Didn't you used to drop your cargo while in the air though?? :blink:

[White trash]

How many sidecars can we fit in 40'?

You can fit 8 sidecars in a 40' with some planning and a little fabrication. However. I don't give a fuck about those homos, if they want to become a part of the National point series, they're more than welcome to make their own transport arangements, as they have chosen not to the past two years.

I'm more aiming this initiative at club racers who've been turned off the Nationals due to transport costs, not for personal agendas or general crybabyness.

[Pussy]

Didn't you used to drop your cargo while in the air though?? :blink:

You make a good point!
Just imagine... flying the Mair Bros somewhere for a race. Either/both of them get lippy.... pull the dump handle.... sorted!! :)

[White trash]

flying the Mair Bros somewhere for a race. Either/both of them get lippy....

WTF? In what kind of parallel universe would that ever happen?

Mairs getting lippy, well I never......................

[Kickaha]

You can fit 8 sidecars in a 40' with some planning and a little fabrication. However. I don't give a fuck about those homos, if they want to become a part of the National point series, they're more than welcome to make their own transport arangements, as they have chosen not to the past two years.


How many club racers are turned off by the costs? how many don't bother because they simply can't be arsed, don't think they're fast enough (like that queer coont Jamie McNair fella)



You make a good point!
Just imagine... flying the Mair Bros somewhere for a race. Either/both of them get lippy.... pull the dump handle.... sorted!! :)

How big a plane do they let you fly, you could become our personal pilot, fuck those Mair homos though they can fucking walk for all I care

[White trash]

How big a plane do they let you fly, you could become our personal pilot, fuck those Mair homos though they can fucking walk for all I care

John's not supid, he knows Dave would be playing 'Surprise!! No hands!!!' digital penetration while he's trying to fly.

Actually, Farquar, the Mairs have access to their own pilot of an 8 seater charter jet. Got an interesting gathering booked in it. Was gonna invite you and Jo as witnesses but I'm reconsidering...................

[Kwaka42]

We used a truck for a few ARRC rounds I did a few years back. Had to build a crate but it worked out well and cheaper than driving myself 3000+ kms.

[prettybillie]

Now you just need some prick who can fly an aeroplane, Jimmy!....

Biggles can! Not shitting you!

[jellywrestler]

the Mairs have access to their own pilot of an 8 seater charter jet.
yep the way you folks ride that'll be the 'Life Flight Trust' air ambulance

[Drew]

How big a plane do they let you fly, you could become our personal pilot, fuck those Mair homos though they can fucking walk for all I care

At the moment we'll be running the race on foot too, so it'd be good training.

[Pussy]

Actually, Farquar, the Mairs have access to their own pilot of an 8 seater charter jet.

Dukie's one????

[White trash]

yep the way you folks ride that'll be the 'Life Flight Trust' air ambulance

Drew's the rider mate, blame him.

[scott411]

the year we used a container we made a frame to go in it, but mx bikes are a bit easier to pack in, and do not require the care of a road bike,

we went back to using big trailers or trucks, as the cost of getting the containers to mx tracks was pretty high (they are in the middle of no where most of the time) and we did not normally do multiple rounds in the south island either, just a one off race weekend,

normally you had a set of parents that could drive it down, and it made a good base at the track,

it is a fair bit different as well, as we can not test on the tracks before the meetings like the road racers do

[CHOPPA]

Bloody good idea trashy! A mass team type situation would be great to set up. Build enough $$$ into it so it pays someones wages for a month but a truck set up to take bikes and gear. A big Marque for a pit so the riders just turn up and race would be coool.

Imagine if you could hire this setup you would be away!

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Trade-Me-Motors/Trucks/Car-transporter/auction-356480755.htm

[scrivy]

It is a good idea Trashie.

The NZSRA did this for a few years back in 94, 95, 96 (if I can remember). We could fit 4 chairs into a 20 footer, and 8 into a 40 footer - both had split level decks.

No gear ever went missing. A little bit of damage was done to paint jobs, but not alot.

The only problem I see is that the container has to be made available at a certain place for loading. So if you factor in a day off work, and the travel to get from Auckland to say Wellington to load, and the price of fuel required to do so, it sort of negates the cheaper deal.
But then we did hire vans at Picton, and used them for 2 weeks, and split the costs. So that worked out cheaper.
But if you fly down to Chch, then theres no van hire costs - but you still need a vehicle down there.

My rig and another competitors rig were painted up in sponsors colours (P & O and Mainfreight), so we got it cheaper again, and they were impressed with us for doing so, that they again helped out when we went to Australia.

There are alot of pluses in this idea.

[White trash]

Yeah that's what I figured too mate. If I split level a 40' Hi Cube, I reckon I could get easily 8 solos, possibly 12 and all associated gear to fit without too much drama.

As for transport at destination, I can't see why people can't arrange collection from airport to track and vice versa at the end of the meeting. It'd be cool having a bigger group of people camping at the track each meeting, I really enjoyed that aspect of the the meetings this year.

I reckon 500 to 600 would cover the costs of getting each competitors machine and gear to all three SI rounds and back to the NI. Obviously the purchase of the container and modification would be an outlay, but once purchased and modified would lend itself well to the likes of the Post Classic guys travelling to Australia and also the sidecar guys.

[scrivy]

Hireage of bunkrooms at say the North-South campground are cheap, and if I remember hold about 12-16? (But snoring can be a problem............ eh Spyda.....)
Cabins at Temuka are cheap too.

Vans are cheap for the weekend, and costs split between 8 per van is naf all. Or ask fellow competitors down there for a vehicle loan, pay them a bit of coin, helps them out too!

Cheap flights are available if booked early.

The sidecar guys loved the trips years back. The trip was more fun than the racing........... (well, it was remembered more than the on track happenings anyway. Caught up with one fellow racer from the 90's at Eastern Creek just gone by - and the most memorable thing we talked about was the van trips!!).

Scrivy

[malcy25]

Bloody good idea. The postie boys and classic boys do it every year when they go to Aussie. The posties have had 15 bikes double stacked in a 20' container. That included spare engines wheels, tyres, most riding gear and everything they needed for a 3 day meeting, bar fuel.

Has to be careful packing - can take 2-3 hours and some good systems. If you did it with a few less bikes it is simpler. The Poms that come down from the Uk to race in Aussie stick their bikes in the frames that new bikes come in and that is their space "limit" for all their gear.

[wharfy]

Bloody good idea. The postie boys and classic boys do it every year when they go to Aussie. The posties have had 15 bikes double stacked in a 20' container. That included spare engines wheels, tyres, most riding gear and everything they needed for a 3 day meeting, bar fuel.

Has to be careful packing - can take 2-3 hours and some good systems. If you did it with a few less bikes it is simpler. The Poms that come down from the Uk to race in Aussie stick their bikes in the frames that new bikes come in and that is their space "limit" for all their gear.

What to the bike shops with all the frames that new bikes come packed in ?

[White trash]

What to the bike shops with all the frames that new bikes come packed in ?

Send em to the scrappers usually.

[old rig]

Sidecars did that at one stage quite some time ago, might have been the Australian Invasion in the mid nineties



That's because most people don't organise far enough ahead, we've generally got most stuff booked with a few weeks of National dates coming out as the further ahead you book the cheaper most travel is, I worked it out last year for the Northern guys you could do three rounds with no more than 6-7 days off although that relied on some assistance from guys here driving the gear around

How many sidecars can we fit in 40'?

i am pretty shore you could get 10 with a meas floor bulit in to it

[jellywrestler]

great idea but unfortuantely there are quite a few what if's too
What if a bike needs working on between meets?
what about personal transport while competing, a lot of people use vans so they can have personal transport when around there and carry tents tools etc.
The sidecars went to aussie a number of times using containers and it worked but it was also a case of unless you're in auckland there's a lot of travelling to and fro to get bikes there and back. yes there could be containers moving through the country but it is messy.

keep up the thread and if it does go ahead can i have dibs in one for a bedroom at the track.
and before anyone says it, yes bikes will have to have a 'Bolt-check' if they're in there while i'm snoring as it's sure to vibrate a few well torqued fittings loose...

[Drew]

I see the best way to be the container being loaded in Aukland, then Wellington, then being taken south.

If a bike needs work between rounds, it would cause issues for the rider as there couldn't really be any deviation from the bookings for moving the thing. But there are always things that can be done, as people at the track are pretty helpfull as a whole, so another competitor from the appropriate island would likely be found to move the bike to the next round.

I reckon we could sleep an easy half a dozen in one at the track as most bikes would be out of them, but I'm not sharing with your diesel electric train impersonation.

[jellywrestler]

[QUOTE=Drew;1130041159 but I'm not sharing with your diesel electric train impersonation.[/QUOTE]
Don't need abuse like that thanks, I actually thought I sounded like a Harley Davidson!

[Drew]

Don't need abuse like that thanks, I actually thought I sounded like a Harley Davidson!

And you think that's better?

[slowpoke]

It's got me buggered why this isn't done every year, it just makes sense on soooo many levels.

Having done something similar with paying for bike/gear stowage and transport last year, the biggest saving from my point of view was in time. I was only home from work for three or so weeks and it meant I could keep my good lady happy (-ish) and still do a few skids all over the country. I just took carry on luggage so it cost me the princely sum of $59 to fly from Wellington to Christchurch Thursday night and be home again at Monday lunchtime. Invergiggle is more expensive with no competition to Air New Zealand (that I know of) but similar convenience made it a no brainer.

Someone holding down a real job could still work a few days, not chew up all their annual leave, and spend some time with the family mid-week.

Actually buying a container would be ideal, allowing a more purpose built and practical solution, but with a bit of investment (are you listening MNZ?) you'd end up with something that would actually encourage people to enter. Approach a hire or general machinery company with the aim of securing a big generator, tyre changer and marquee so you can be more self sufficient. Not sure how hard it would be to organise certification for carrying fuel but this would also mean you could carry your own 98 octane go-juice to Teretonga where it's normally unavailable. Etc etc etc

Yeah, it's a pipe dream, but why not aim to do it right from the get go even if you can't do it all at once first up? If you/we owned it then improving it year by year would be a worthwhile investment, rather than just a box you sling your gear in. The better the facilities the more people would be prepared to pay for them too, eh?

Then, how easy would it be to round up a few folks to do an event or two in Oz with the same well set up container........?

[Billy]

It's got me buggered why this isn't done every year, it just makes sense on soooo many levels.

Having done something similar with paying for bike/gear stowage and transport last year, the biggest saving from my point of view was in time. I was only home from work for three or so weeks and it meant I could keep my good lady happy (-ish) and still do a few skids all over the country. I just took carry on luggage so it cost me the princely sum of $59 to fly from Wellington to Christchurch Thursday night and be home again at Monday lunchtime. Invergiggle is more expensive with no competition to Air New Zealand (that I know of) but similar convenience made it a no brainer.

Someone holding down a real job could still work a few days, not chew up all their annual leave, and spend some time with the family mid-week.

Actually buying a container would be ideal, allowing a more purpose built and practical solution, but with a bit of investment (are you listening MNZ?) you'd end up with something that would actually encourage people to enter. Approach a hire or general machinery company with the aim of securing a big generator, tyre changer and marquee so you can be more self sufficient. Not sure how hard it would be to organise certification for carrying fuel but this would also mean you could carry your own 98 octane go-juice to Teretonga where it's normally unavailable. Etc etc etc

Yeah, it's a pipe dream, but why not aim to do it right from the get go even if you can't do it all at once first up? If you/we owned it then improving it year by year would be a worthwhile investment, rather than just a box you sling your gear in. The better the facilities the more people would be prepared to pay for them too, eh?

Then, how easy would it be to round up a few folks to do an event or two in Oz with the same well set up container........?

Good post Spud,

Only thing Im miffed at is ( are you listening MNZ).Are you suggesting they should be transporting our bikes to the track now ?

[White trash]

Good post Spud,

Only thing Im miffed at is ( are you listening MNZ).Are you suggesting they should be transporting our bikes to the track now ?

Nope, that certainly wasn't my intention. The trasport would be paid for by the competitors whos bikes are being transported and a good deal from a couple of transport companys. I already have the contacts and have quote requests out to compile a little bit of a feasibility study. If the numbers stack up, I'm keen to undertake it but only if there's a reasonable ammount of interest from enough people to make it worthwhile.

[gixerracer]

Nope, that certainly wasn't my intention. The trasport would be paid for by the competitors whos bikes are being transported and a good deal from a couple of transport companys. I already have the contacts and have quote requests out to compile a little bit of a feasibility study. If the numbers stack up, I'm keen to undertake it but only if there's a reasonable ammount of interest from enough people to make it worthwhile.

Jimmy any idea where is the best place to purchase a container even a 20 foot one?
And do you have a ruff idea on prices it would not need to be a mint one?

Cheers

[Pussy]

but I'm not sharing with your diesel electric train impersonation.

I would put Spyda's snoring sounding more like a D9 with no muffler (at full throttle), at the bottom of a quarry.....

[slowpoke]

Good post Spud,

Only thing Im miffed at is ( are you listening MNZ).Are you suggesting they should be transporting our bikes to the track now ?

I'm not upset they haven't done it, and don't expect them to do it......but it would be a great asset to the bike racing community. It wouldn't even have to cost MNZ any $$$$ (after the intitial investment) they could recoup costs and actually run what could be a stand alone facility at a profit, reinvesting that profit into assisting some of our brightest and best racers to race overseas using said container. Be one hell of an incentive if our championship winners got an entry into an ASBK meeting at say Phillip Island.....

The basic idea is great, and one I'd definitely be interested in, but there is just so much scope for further improvement if someone wanted to pick up the ball and run with it.

[Wingnut]

http://www.trademe.co.nz/Sports/Fishing/Fresh-water/Nets/auction-370541208.htm

[Billy]

I'm not upset they haven't done it, and don't expect them to do it......but it would be a great asset to the bike racing community. It wouldn't even have to cost MNZ any $$$$ (after the intitial investment) they could recoup costs and actually run what could be a stand alone facility at a profit, reinvesting that profit into assisting some of our brightest and best racers to race overseas using said container. Be one hell of an incentive if our championship winners got an entry into an ASBK meeting at say Phillip Island.....

The basic idea is great, and one I'd definitely be interested in, but there is just so much scope for further improvement if someone wanted to pick up the ball and run with it.

I dont disagree with you that its a good idea and Kudos to drew for coming up with the idea and Jimmy for researching it.

I was just asking the question as to whether you thought MNZ should be transporting our bikes now,

If you want further information on how MNZ works go to Biggles facebook page and read Jims explanation.

Dont want to take the thread off topic so as you were!

[slowpoke]

I dont disagree with you that its a good idea and Kudos to drew for coming up with the idea and Jimmy for researching it.

I was just asking the question as to whether you thought MNZ should be transporting our bikes now,

If you want further information on how MNZ works go to Biggles facebook page and read Jims explanation.

Dont want to take the thread off topic so as you were!

Sorry Billy (and MNZ) my intitial post sounded a lil' bit harsh re MNZ, but it was meant as a suggestion to possibly develop a great asset that all the racing communities could use.

There must be a more than a few scrub jockeys who have dreamt of doing the Finke Desert Race for example. Or Dr Steve might shake a leg down at the port and with some fundraising from the youngsters scrape enough coin together to take the whole Moto Academy crew across to contest the 125 support race at the MotoGP event. A permanent facility could be created that would be maintained/improved from the minimal rental proceeds.

At worst it could simply be a mobile billboard and/or display for the Championship as it is carted around NZ, which is a lot better than the zero billboards and signage I've seen so far. Imagine a well presented set of bikes and container parked in Palmerston North square (or somewhere prominent), IOM TT/WSBK footage playing on a big TV (a la Ed/Choppa/LG Racing a couple of years back), how many more punters would come through the gate?

So if you take a simple container and advance the idea a few steps (too far?) I can see benefits to the whole racing community, hence I made the comment re MNZ.

But yeah, even if you just Keep It Simple Stupid, Jimmy and Drew are definitely on to something and could well part fund a campaign from their intitiative. If you're after expressions of Interest, count me in fella's (calendar permitting). Hmmm, I might just enlarge some of the lockwire holes, I reckon a few padlocks might be needed so the gixxer donk doesn't end up in a blardy sidecar......

[jellywrestler]

At worst it could simply be a mobile billboard and/or display for the Championship as it is carted around NZ, which is a lot better than the zero billboards and signage I've seen so far.


You were down south last year for ruapuna, there were billborads right through Christchurch, and i beleive they were used down at timaru for the nationals also.
i didn't go into chch this year but from memory heard they were out again.

[slowpoke]

You were down south last year for ruapuna, there were billborads right through Christchurch, and i beleive they were used down at timaru for the nationals also.
i didn't go into chch this year but from memory heard they were out again.

Can't say I remember them at Christchurch but I didn't go much past Riccarton bar a quick duck into the Britten office/display thingy and the Wigram museum. I was probably too busy tripping over my bottom lip and cryin' into my beer:facepalm: to look up....but they did have the best crowd I've seen at a NZSBK event despite some dodgy weather.

Haha, the only sign I can remember was that big fucker for the "Kumara Races" which for some reason I find farkin' hilarious.....

[robinm]

Bulk transport has been done before, here are a couple of photos from 1979 of the north islanders heading south.237430237429

[jellywrestler]

Bulk transport has been done before, here are a couple of photos from 1979 of the north islanders heading south.237430237429


cool shots,
think the open truck with ropes won't be up to todays standards though!

[Billy]

Has anymore happened with this idea?

As it turns out,I have ended up owning the truck shown below and have worked out I can get 6 bikes and spares in it and if need be could hook the trailer up behind which will take another three,Total cost per competitor would be $550.00 IF the truck was full,Anybody serious can contact me through racefairings.co.nz.

[RobGassit]

Has anymore happened with this idea?

As it turns out,I have ended up owning the truck shown below and have worked out I can get 6 bikes and spares in it and if need be could hook the trailer up behind which will take another three,Total cost per competitor would be $550.00 IF the truck was full,Anybody serious can contact me through racefairings.co.nz.

And PHAARK ME it's already black.. What are the odds of that!

[Billy]

And PHAARK ME it's already black.. What are the odds of that!

Yip,Took me ages to find one in that particular shade of black LOL

[Drew]

Has anymore happened with this idea?

As it turns out,I have ended up owning the truck shown below and have worked out I can get 6 bikes and spares in it and if need be could hook the trailer up behind which will take another three,Total cost per competitor would be $550.00 IF the truck was full,Anybody serious can contact me through racefairings.co.nz.

Opening post asked who would be keen. No one actually racing has expressed any serious interest.

Jimmy and I, (mostly Jimmy, I'm just putting myself in there to look important), are not about to commit the initial financial outlay or time and effort, if racers can't be bothered saying they'd use the service.

[Billy]

Opening post asked who would be keen. No one actually racing has expressed any serious interest.

Jimmy and I, (mostly Jimmy, I'm just putting myself in there to look important), are not about to commit the initial financial outlay or time and effort, if racers can't be bothered saying they'd use the service.

Yip,

Thats what I thought,Still got to put it out there and try,Then later on when the tossers complain and try and blame MNZ or anybody else they can think of,We can remind them,Aye

[Drew]

Yip,

Thats what I thought,Still got to put it out there and try,Then later on when the tossers complain and try and blame MNZ or anybody else they can think of,We can remind them,Aye

"I told you so", would give me far less pleasure than being part of increasing numbers for the nationals. I'd love to fill a container with superbikes and see a 30 strong grid line up.

[gixerracer]

Has anymore happened with this idea?

As it turns out,I have ended up owning the truck shown below and have worked out I can get 6 bikes and spares in it and if need be could hook the trailer up behind which will take another three,Total cost per competitor would be $550.00 IF the truck was full,Anybody serious can contact me through racefairings.co.nz.

Nice. You can take all my crap and I will just fly to each round:yes:

[Kiwi Graham]

Slightly off topic but consider it a bump and not at all suggesting the same thing would happen Billy

It reminds me of a time years ago at a British GP round when an enterprising couple of guys purchased a large curtain sided semi trailer and kitted it out as secure undercover bike storage for spectators attending the meet, they even had storage bins fitted for helemets and gear. Charged a some and gave a ticket for display on you return for your bike and gear.

Yep you guessed it......prob during the main event.......goneburger!!! :gob:

Wont be doing SI rounds guys (how ever many there will be!) but a bloody good money saving idea for those that will.

[slowpoke]

Has anymore happened with this idea?

As it turns out,I have ended up owning the truck shown below and have worked out I can get 6 bikes and spares in it and if need be could hook the trailer up behind which will take another three,Total cost per competitor would be $550.00 IF the truck was full,Anybody serious can contact me through racefairings.co.nz.

Way hey, nice lookin' rig mate! Just gotta see how my roster lines up and I'll be lookin' seriously at what is a great option.

[Billy]

Has anymore happened with this idea?

As it turns out,I have ended up owning the truck shown below and have worked out I can get 6 bikes and spares in it and if need be could hook the trailer up behind which will take another three,Total cost per competitor would be $550.00 IF the truck was full,Anybody serious can contact me through racefairings.co.nz.

Bumpity bump,

Two spots gone already,There will be some accomodation available with this deal at the tracks on a first up best dressed basis

[miper]

Has anymore happened with this idea?

As it turns out,I have ended up owning the truck shown below and have worked out I can get 6 bikes and spares in it and if need be could hook the trailer up behind which will take another three,Total cost per competitor would be $550.00 IF the truck was full,Anybody serious can contact me through racefairings.co.nz.

Come on man. Ya can get a van on behind the trailer as well (been done before ay mate) but to further improve the spectacle put a trailer on behind the van on behind the trailer on behind the truck.............

[Billy]

Come on man. Ya can get a van on behind the trailer as well (been done before ay mate) but to further improve the spectacle put a trailer on behind the van on behind the trailer on behind the truck.............

LMFAO!Yea I dont think Grant Ramage or Johnny Hepburn have ever recovered from that episode,Never mind the old fella in the firewood truck we overtook while towing them behind the trailer out Rangiora way

[Billy]

Has anymore happened with this idea?

As it turns out,I have ended up owning the truck shown below and have worked out I can get 6 bikes and spares in it and if need be could hook the trailer up behind which will take another three,Total cost per competitor would be $550.00 IF the truck was full,Anybody serious can contact me through racefairings.co.nz.

Due to a lack of interest,This offer is now Withdrawn and the truck is for sale to anybody interested.

[codgyoleracer]

Due to a lack of interest,This offer is now Withdrawn and the truck is for sale to anybody interested.

Back to hitchhiking for me then......

[Billy]

Back to hitchhiking for me then......

Not necessarily,Ive still got room in the trailer for 1 bike and gear

[slowpoke]

Back to hitchhiking for me then......


Not necessarily,Ive still got room in the trailer for 1 bike and gear

Fark, I just had some nightmarish visions of the fun after "lights out!".....hmmm, what will win out: the long arms and legs of GW or the agility and sheer persistence of Billy? The TAB could make some money off this......place your best gennelmen!