New Vyrus

[idb]

http://www.fasterandfaster.net/2009/10/2010-vyrus-987-c3-4v-fastest-most.html
211 horses and 154 kilos - how can you not need one of these?

I can't wait for the demo model to turn up locally.
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[bogan]

Fucking wicked, reckon being on the design team of that sorta thing would be the best job ever!

[ducatilover]

That's a bit mental....:love:

[Kickaha]

I can't wait for the demo model to turn up locally.


Just needs a proper Ducati motor fitted (Bevel drive) then I'd buy one

[Camshaft]

did this bike ever work?
is that front set up anything special compared to a standard triple clamp set up as far as cornering on the track go's?

[bogan]

did this bike ever work?
is that front set up anything special compared to a standard triple clamp set up as far as cornering on the track go's?

no brake dive, also I guess not needing a huge amount of frame strength at the bars makes for a lighter frame. Bet the turning radius is a muthafucker though.

[Mental Trousers]

Always loved the Bimota Tesi and the Vyrus.

I think putting that much horsepower in that sort of frame is brilliant. The behaviour on the brakes and shorter stopping distances would (hopefully) mean meat-axes with more money than skill will survive owning a 200+ horsepower bike.

[idb]

Always loved the Bimota Tesi and the Vyrus.

I think putting that much horsepower in that sort of frame is brilliant. The behaviour on the brakes and shorter stopping distances would (hopefully) mean meat-axes with more money than skill will survive owning a 200+ horsepower bike.

I would like to be one of those meat axes.

[idb]

Just needs a proper Ducati motor fitted (Bevel drive) then I'd buy one

Good boy!!!

[Kickaha]

I would like to be one of those meat axes.

Me too, I'd even lower myself to riding a belt drive

[Mental Trousers]

Oh I'd love to own one. But I'm not likely to win a Darwin Award, unlike the "meat axes" I refer to.

[98tls]

:love:Always loved them.

[idb]

:love:Always loved them.

Same...them and the Tesi.

[AllanB]

Interesting for sure.

Take a hour to find the oil filler!

Are they not allowed fancy front ends in Moto GP? Everyone sticks with the old tubes. Proven I guess and well supported.

Funny how the pinnacle of racing limits the inventiveness of the designers.

[Mental Trousers]

Nobody is willing to risk the millions of dollars that would need to go into developing a different front end. Sponsors won't put money into something that's unproven blah blah and forks are so well developed now that a different front end won't provide a huge advantage.

That's a start ...

[Kickaha]

Are they not allowed fancy front ends in Moto GP? Everyone sticks with the old tubes. Proven I guess and well supported.

Funny how the pinnacle of racing limits the inventiveness of the designers.

The Elf Hondas tried them in the early eighties
http://www.bikeexif.com/elf-honda

[bogan]

The Elf Hondas tried them in the early eighties
http://www.bikeexif.com/elf-honda

When you look at that, it's the single sided rear suspension which has caught on, which offers no performance benefits. Wonder what axed the front swingarm design which does offer performance benefits. The steering I guess?

[Mental Trousers]

Single sided swingarms are more of a fashion statement than anything. The only benefit they offer is when it comes to changing the tyre.

When Elf tried their experimental bikes in the late 70's to late 80's they never really gained any success with them. I don't know if they won a single race (someone else might know).

[Kickaha]

Single sided swingarms are more of a fashion statement than anything.

They are quite often heavier than double sided swingarms to

[NighthawkNZ]

They are quite often heavier than double sided swingarms to


Kinda makes sense when you think about it, as they have to be twice as strong, and the axle housing etc...

[bogan]

You might be surprised, a lot of engineering goes into a SSSA, while in many cases two bits of RHS are just welded up for a double sided one. A bigger cross section gives you more strength per weight than a smaller remember. For example an RC31 SSSA is 4.1kg, not sure what the weight is like for a double sided one, but can't imagine there being a huge amount of weight savings to be gained.

[ducatilover]

You might be surprised, a lot of engineering goes into a SSSA, while in many cases two bits of RHS are just welded up for a double sided one. A bigger cross section gives you more strength per weight than a smaller remember. For example an RC31 SSSA is 4.1kg, not sure what the weight is like for a double sided one, but can't imagine there being a huge amount of weight savings to be gained.

I am putting money on the Kawashitty having a heaver swing arm. :facepalm:

[matdaymon]

Wow that is one insane power to weight ratio :shit:
Not sold on the looks yet but I'm sure I'd feel differently if I had the chance to see one in the flesh.
Definitely wouldn't put myself on one of those as a rode bike, I had enough problems keeping my 250bhp Subaru under the speed limit with its chunky 1470kg.
That thing would either kill me by going to warp speed before I could blink or would get me to pass go without collecting $200 straight to jail :Police:

[onearmedbandit]

From what I've only read, riders of the Vyrus (and for that matter the Tesi) have complained of a vague feeling from the front. A lot of riders (through experience I guess) prefer the feeling of a bike diving under brakes entering a bend. Also it works to shorten the steering rake, thereby increasing the turn in rate (from what a certain suspension dude told me).

As far as SSSA's, they are, nay, were effective for endurance racers, but now with quick release systems for DSSA's they really serve no purpose other than marketing.

[ducatilover]

From what I've only read, riders of the Vyrus (and for that matter the Tesi) have complained of a vague feeling from the front. A lot of riders (through experience I guess) prefer the feeling of a bike diving under brakes entering a bend. Also it works to shorten the steering rake, thereby increasing the turn in rate (from what a certain suspension dude told me).

As far as SSSA's, they are, nay, were effective for endurance racers, but now with quick release systems for DSSA's they really serve no purpose other than marketing.
For the normal boring riders like myself I would never experience the funny front end as I wouldn't ride it hard enough... shit I've got dirty chicken strips on my CB :facepalm:
Also, the "draw backs" of an SSA would be wasted on me too, I am happy with the way a ZZR4/600 handles...so a real bike with an SSA is more than I need and I doubt I'd ever notice the difference.

Just saying... yeh, I ride like a pussy

[idb]

From what I've only read, riders of the Vyrus (and for that matter the Tesi) have complained of a vague feeling from the front. A lot of riders (through experience I guess) prefer the feeling of a bike diving under brakes entering a bend. Also it works to shorten the steering rake, thereby increasing the turn in rate (from what a certain suspension dude told me).

As far as SSSA's, they are, nay, were effective for endurance racers, but now with quick release systems for DSSA's they really serve no purpose other than marketing.

I hadn't read of the 'vagueness' thing but I have read that it feels rather bizarre without the normal dive.
Another advantage of it, if I recall correctly, is that the back wheel doesn't lose as much contact with the road under braking so that you have the extra braking available and more control of the back end.

[ducatilover]

That's gold....:facepalm:

[idb]

That's gold....:facepalm:

No?
There could be some logic there as far as I can see.

[onearmedbandit]

No?
There could be some logic there as far as I can see.

Ah actually his response may have been to some spam I removed...

[Yow Ling]

How do they add a supercharger and end up with a lighter bike, was there a 20kg balast weight on the low power models?