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placidfemme
27th June 2005, 18:13
Hey

I was at the bike shop the other day and I saw a ZX9R with "Oggy Bars" on the side.

Now I'm not sure if Oggy Bars is the actual name or just that particular brand name... But they are those funny bar thingymabobs that stick out on either side of the bike to help prevent damage to the farings and such in the event of a fall/drop...

Would it be possible to instal "Oggy Bars" or the such on a ZXR250C?

I noticed on the ZX9R that the bars were welded (??) attached to the frame of the bike. I looked at my ZXR and me thinks that maybe a hole might need to be cut into the farings to place Oggy Bars...

Does anyone who owns a ZXR have Oggy Bars on their bike? Or does anyone know if ZXR's Can or cannot have them?

Thanks in Advance

placid :ride:

SixPackBack
27th June 2005, 18:26
Hey

I was at the bike shop the other day and I saw a ZX9R with "Oggy Bars" on the side.

Now I'm not sure if Oggy Bars is the actual name or just that particular brand name... But they are those funny bar thingymabobs that stick out on either side of the bike to help prevent damage to the farings and such in the event of a fall/drop...

Would it be possible to instal "Oggy Bars" or the such on a ZXR250C?

I noticed on the ZX9R that the bars were welded (??) attached to the frame of the bike. I looked at my ZXR and me thinks that maybe a hole might need to be cut into the farings to place Oggy Bars...

Does anyone who owns a ZXR have Oggy Bars on their bike? Or does anyone know if ZXR's Can or cannot have them?

Thanks in Advance

placid :ride:
Oggy knobs are machined lumps of acetal plastic attached by bolts to the frame or motor, a compenent engineer would have no problem adapting or machining something to suit

placidfemme
27th June 2005, 18:28
Oggy knobs are machined lumps of acetal plastic attached by bolts to the frame or motor, a compenent engineer would have no problem adapting or machining something to suit

Sweet thank you

*adds oggy bars to my LONG list of things to buy for the bike*

Two Smoker
27th June 2005, 18:34
Sweet thank you

*adds oggy bars to my LONG list of things to buy for the bike*

Ive got oggi-knobs on my GSX-R600... They crash REAL good!!! Saved my side fairing after sliding along the road for a good 50 metres... pity they couldnt save the rest of the bike when the cartwheeling started...

bugjuice
27th June 2005, 18:35
Oggy is a brand too, among many others. I have bought some generic un-named ones, which should fit most bikes. They bolt onto some part of the frame that sticks out the furthest, so that it'll protect the best in a slide..
I'm getting rid of my ones (bought for $180) for about half that. They don't really work for my bike, so I'm going to buy some specific ones to my bike..
They're also known as [frame] sliders (confused with knee sliders), and crash bungs/knobs

placidfemme
27th June 2005, 18:35
Ive got oggi-knobs on my GSX-R600... They crash REAL good!!! Saved my side fairing after sliding along the road for a good 50 metres... pity they couldnt save the rest of the bike when the cartwheeling started...

Do you think they caused the cart-wheeling?

bugjuice
27th June 2005, 18:37
Do you think they caused the cart-wheeling?
unlikely. tyres, handlebars, various bodywork bits coming into contact with lumps in the ground, cause cartwheeling, but I'm sure TS can explain that better!!

Two Smoker
27th June 2005, 18:43
Do you think they caused the cart-wheeling?

LOL, nah they didnt... the 100mmx100mm post and bank of clay caused the cartwheels, which caused the majority of the damage... They can be good, and can be bad... If you do crash on them, replace the crash knob affected immediately, as it will be weakend and can do more damage than good in the next crash...

Coyote
27th June 2005, 18:46
Where can you get them and how much?

placidfemme
27th June 2005, 18:47
LOL, nah they didnt... the 100mmx100mm post and bank of clay caused the cartwheels, which caused the majority of the damage... They can be good, and can be bad... If you do crash on them, replace the crash knob affected immediately, as it will be weakend and can do more damage than good in the next crash...

Sweet thank you :)

I've been wondering about this for a few days, and figured that getting those bars installed would be cheaper than replaing a faring or two... and god knows I'm anal about my bike and got really upset/angry when it fell off the jack and cracked the faring im two places :(

bugjuice
27th June 2005, 18:49
Where can you get them and how much?
bike shops, whatcha got? Like I said, my generic ones were about $180. Can buy 'em if you want.. Or you could machine (make) some.. not too hard..

SixPackBack
27th June 2005, 18:49
Where can you get them and how much?
they are fucken expensive for $20 of plastic that could be manufactured in half an hour, but try googling oggy knobs

bugjuice
27th June 2005, 18:51
they are fucken expensive for $20 of plastic that could be manufactured in half an hour, but try googling oggy knobs
unfortunately are. But imagine what/how much they're saving in a slide?
must stop posting now..

nice to see ya on the site btw :niceone:

Coyote
27th June 2005, 18:51
I'll make my own like I did on my motard

All ya need is a block of nylon and a chisel

Two Smoker
27th June 2005, 18:53
Oggi knobs are very expensive, $220 for mine... but im going for Yoshimura or rg-racing ones next, they are cheaper at $140-$160 and still high quality...

SixPackBack
27th June 2005, 18:54
I'll make my own like I did on my motard

All ya need is a block of nylon and a chisel
no dude acetal, available from engineering plastics

Coyote
27th June 2005, 18:56
no dude acetal, available from engineering plastics
Sweet. Give it a go at metalwork

I was also thinking of making kevlar patches to go on parts of the bike i.e tank. Supposedly you work with it in the same way as fibreglass

John
27th June 2005, 19:40
Dont do it, they cause more damage than they are worth 80% of the time on the road.

Best way to protect your bike? Get riding lessons. Sorry to be blunt but its the truth, I have seen some horiffic damage from knobs, If you are going to install them make sure they are as small as you possibly can get them, that way they wont have as much leverage to bend/break engine mounts on our little bikes.

Two Smoker
27th June 2005, 19:57
Dont do it, they cause more damage than they are worth 80% of the time on the road.

Best way to protect your bike? Get riding lessons. Sorry to be blunt but its the truth, I have seen some horiffic damage from knobs, If you are going to install them make sure they are as small as you possibly can get them, that way they wont have as much leverage to bend/break engine mounts on our little bikes.

If you get RG racing ones, they are designed to pivot on the aluminium which means it wont bend your frame, and being compact they wont rip the thread from the engine mounts either... As you have probably read, i know how to ride a bike, but im happy to be saving over a grand on a side fairing due to a $200 crash knob... its the $$$ that you spend that decides the fate of the serverity of the damage from a crash...

John
27th June 2005, 20:00
If you get RG racing ones, they are designed to pivot on the aluminium which means it wont bend your frame, and being compact they wont rip the thread from the engine mounts either... As you have probably read, i know how to ride a bike, but im happy to be saving over a grand on a side fairing due to a $200 crash knob... its the $$$ that you spend that decides the fate of the serverity of the damage from a crash...
Depends what your riding on but - in respect to surface and terrian, I am sure your aware of shortfalls of crash bungs, so I wont preach on it - But I will tell you for free our engine mounts (the zxr's) break easy under stress.

Two Smoker
27th June 2005, 20:05
Depends what your riding on but - in respect to surface and terrian, I am sure your aware of shortfalls of crash bungs, so I wont preach on it - But I will tell you for free our engine mounts (the zxr's) break easy under stress.

Yep, seen Milky's break without a crash knob...

Grumpy
27th June 2005, 20:13
Check out MotovationUSA. I got a set for the Z1000. $150 including freight from the States. Excellent quality.

TDC
27th June 2005, 20:19
Like me everybody has an idea about these sort of things, but for what its worth here is my nickel worth of advise.

Crash bungs / ogie bars / whatever the cool current branding is, tend to bolt to solid unmovable and also expensive bits in the bike. If the bike just goes for a slide down a very smooth road they can in some instances limit some damage. However if the bike slides over a kerb, the crash device gets caught in a pot hole, or just gets hooked up on some road irregularity, it is very likely that the unmovable / expensive bit will be damaged. (read engine, frame, etc)

Bike wreckers like crash bungs as more often than the proponents of such devices will admit, they are the cause of more damage not less, worst the damage they cause tends to be very expensive and difficult to repair.

All crashes cause damage, plastics are cheaper than frames / engine cases ....

Fully expecting to get flamed by cool crash bung fashion victims :)

John
27th June 2005, 20:26
Like me everybody has an idea about these sort of things, but for what its worth here is my nickel worth of advise.

Crash bungs / ogie bars / whatever the cool current branding is, tend to bolt to solid unmovable and also expensive bits in the bike. If the bike just goes for a slide down a very smooth road they can in some instances limit some damage. However if the bike slides over a kerb, the crash device gets caught in a pot hole, or just gets hooked up on some road irregularity, it is very likely that the unmovable / expensive bit will be damaged. (read engine, frame, etc)

Bike wreckers like crash bungs as more often than the proponents of such devices will admit, they are the cause of more damage not less, worst the damage they cause tends to be very expensive and difficult to repair.

All crashes cause damage, plastics are cheaper than frames / engine cases ....

Fully expecting to get flamed by cool crash bung fashion victims :)
Well said that man.

edit: Welcome to the site, best first post ever :)

Coyote
27th June 2005, 21:30
Dont do it, they cause more damage than they are worth 80% of the time on the road.

Best way to protect your bike? Get riding lessons. Sorry to be blunt but its the truth, I have seen some horiffic damage from knobs, If you are going to install them make sure they are as small as you possibly can get them, that way they wont have as much leverage to bend/break engine mounts on our little bikes.
This is why I still haven't done anything to my cbr yet, can't see any good places to have crash bungs. I was thinking of welding skid plates on my crankcase sidecovers, also be another line of defence from being split open again

NordieBoy
27th June 2005, 21:56
Crash bungs on front and rear axles.
No way I'd be without them really.
Basically they are cheap lowside insurance.
If I can spend $20 on some crash protection to save my forks/swingarm etc from being gound up then I'll do it.
They only have to work once to save many many times their cost.



Oh and if you're making your own then you should be looking for Nolethane (sp?) the stuff they make suspension bushes from for cages.