Michelin Pilot Road 3 warning!

[dogsnbikes]

I have just been out to scrub in the new road 3's over the Parapara's....And feel that I must warn others about these tyre's


Your In danger of totally enjoying yourself
I found these very responsive both in the wet drew and the dry this morning ..........................

[yod]

Michelin Pilot Road 3 Waring!!!!
I have just been out to scrub in the new road 3's over the Parapara's....And feel that I must warn others about these tyre's


Your In danger of totally enjoying yourself
I found these very responsive both in the wet drew and the dry this morning ..........................

ooooo, got about 3 thou left in the PR2s....tempting

[dogsnbikes]

ooooo, got about 3 thou left in the PR2s....tempting

You won't look back after being on the 3's they are in a different league Jono

[yod]

You won't look back after being on the 3's they are in a different league Jono

I bet they're in a different league pricewise too! :facepalm:

[neels]

I took my new PR3 rear for a ride the other weekend, wasn't sure if it was just that the old tyre was shagged or the new one was good, but it was loverly. Mrs on the back even commented what a nice ride it was compared to the last time we were out.

Price wise not much different to the 2 I think?

[dogsnbikes]

I bet they're in a different league pricewise too! :facepalm:

I got mine for under 7 fitted so not so bad....mind you it took abit of getting these tyres as we had too wait for the 190/50/17 to actually arrive in the country....so I was glad when it did so I wasn't seen with the bridgestone on the rear that they loaned me

[banditrider]

Will wait until I hear how they last on a Connie - got burnt with Angels so not gonna be the first to try this time...

Current PR2's have 10k on them. The last couple of sets got 12k but these are still looking really good so I may even get a bit more. So far this is the tyre for the Connie but secretly hoping that the PR3's may be another step up...

[Owl]

got burnt with Angels so not gonna be the first to try this time...

There goes my chance to sell those Angels to yod:facepalm:

[banditrider]

There goes my chance to sell those Angels to yod:facepalm:

You got that right!

[Owl]

You got that right!

I couldn't bring myself to fit them on my bike, so now have a set of Pures:yes:

[AllanB]

Running PR2's presently and I've been very happy - 12,000 on them so far - rear is getting down but it appears to have stopped wearing! I have no idea how much more I'll get out of it and I ere on the side of caution with tyres.

I'm trying the Conti Road Attack 2's as a set next. Just for a change.

And I was severely pissed off at the pricing of PR3's last week so they can stick it.

[AllanB]

Will wait until I hear how they last on a Connie - got burnt with Angels so not gonna be the first to try this time...



No good? Looked like a reasonably priced option, apart from the gay marketing.

[banditrider]

No good? Looked like a reasonably priced option, apart from the gay marketing.

http://banditrider.blogspot.com/2010/11/pirelli-angel-sts.html

[banditrider]

A quick scan of the Concours forum and the yanks seem to be loving them - handling wise. No real talk of mileage yet although one post suggested 7,800 miles (but not 100% sure if that was his PR3's or the previous tyres he had). That sort of mileage seems pretty good to me although the yanks seem to claim higher mileages out of PR2's than either myself or Meanie have been able to get (we get very similar).

One guy even claims he dragged a peg in the wet - but then they do have this funny habit of lowering their pegs...

[dogsnbikes]

Will wait until I hear how they last on a Connie - got burnt with Angels so not gonna be the first to try this time...

Current PR2's have 10k on them. The last couple of sets got 12k but these are still looking really good so I may even get a bit more. So far this is the tyre for the Connie but secretly hoping that the PR3's may be another step up...

I just got 11 out of my PP2/PR2 combo.....One thing I did notice today is how easy it was to get over too the edge on a scrub-in run and how smooth the were going into corners some of the 45 posted corners were do-a-ble at 100:innocent:

I will get the other verdict this weekend when she is pillon,but seriously they felt alot smoother that the PR2's ever did

[AllanB]

Interesting read - thanks for posting.

To die that quickly I wonder if they get to the point where they cannot disperse the heat quick enough and on a relatively heavy bike with heaps of power the tyre gives up the ghost.

I will admit that in my case the PR2's have been that good and held their profile so well that there is potential for let-down changing to the ContiRA2.

[yod]

Interesting read - thanks for posting.

To die that quickly I wonder if they get to the point where they cannot disperse the heat quick enough and on a relatively heavy bike with heaps of power the tyre gives up the ghost.

I will admit that in my case the PR2's have been that good and held their profile so well that there is potential for let-down changing to the ContiRA2.

I haven't tried the RA2s but the original Road Attack only lasted 6.5k on the bird but I got 11.5k out of the last PR2 and looks like I'll get the same out of this one as well....grip-wise I didn't find either noticeably worse or better than the other
(these are rears btw)

[John_H]

I've had my PR2s out on the track in the wet and was amazed by the grip they had. What's the difference between them and the 3s?

[banditrider]

To die that quickly I wonder if they get to the point where they cannot disperse the heat quick enough and on a relatively heavy bike with heaps of power the tyre gives up the ghost.

I would say that that is more than likely. The Angels may be fine on something lighter. Interestingly the 2 sets of Pirelli Stradas I've had were great tyres but didn't quite hang in as long as the PR2's. At the moment I'm definitely a PR2 fan!

[YellowDog]

I would say that that is more than likely. The Angels may be fine on something lighter. Interestingly the 2 sets of Pirelli Stradas I've had were great tyres but didn't quite hang in as long as the PR2's. At the moment I'm definitely a PR2 fan!

I must say I am a huge PR2 fan, but as I have heard so much great feedback about the PR3s; the only reason not to get them is the fact that you can get some great discounted deals on PR2s. Maybe I'll get some PR3s when everyone else is on PR4s :yes:

[KoroJ]

Will wait until I hear how they last on a Connie - got burnt with Angels so not gonna be the first to try this time...

Current PR2's have 10k on them. The last couple of sets got 12k but these are still looking really good so I may even get a bit more. So far this is the tyre for the Connie but secretly hoping that the PR3's may be another step up...

A PR3 won't help you keep up with an ST on a Storm....you'd need a Storm for that!

I haven't liked any of the tyres mentioned in this thread (except I haven't tried Angels or Stradas).......oh yes!....or PR3's!

[Owl]

A PR3 won't help you keep up with an ST on a Storm....you'd need a Storm for that!

Are we talking Avon Storm? If so, how does the Storm 2 compare with the original Storm. I only managed 6500km out of a rear with the Triple, whereas the PR2 lasted 9000km with tread to spare.

[dogsnbikes]

What's the difference between them and the 3s?

Biggest noticable difference is the tread pattern too help disperse water better

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[KoroJ]

Are we talking Avon Storm? If so, how does the Storm 2 compare with the original Storm. I only managed 6500km out of a rear with the Triple, whereas the PR2 lasted 9000km with tread to spare.

No idea. I've only used Storm 2's and now Storm 2 Ultras. I get similar mileage out of PR2's, PR's & Storms, but find the Storms more nimble and grippy.

[Gremlin]

Used the Pirelli Diablo Strada, Angels and Michelin PR2. Still finishing a set of PR2 on the Hornet before I can consider the PR3, though their tread pattern is interesting compared to the PR2.

Strada... good tyre, good performance, good life. Strada, exceptional performance, dry and wet, but tyre life so poor I would reconsider its description of a sport touring tyre. It's a sports tyre.

PR2, my favourite. Excellent performance with excellent tyre life, the best of the 3 tyres. I imagine I will give the PR3 a shot once I have run out the PR2s.

Only sad part is that the BMW uses 110/80/19 and 150/70/17, and the PR2 doesn't have that size. Let's hope the PR3 does?

[Hitcher]

I ran a set of PR2s on my FJR and was significantly underwhelmed. The rear behaved itself OK but the front got eaten. This was the only model of tyre where I've consumed a front before a rear. The front ended up with a similar cross-section profile to a wiper blade.

The new PR3s look odd with all of those fine cuts in them. I can see how that may improve their grippiness but will wait and see what the pundits say about their durability before I consider a set.

[BigOne]

I ran a set of PR2s on my FJR and was significantly underwhelmed. The rear behaved itself OK but the front got eaten. This was the only model of tyre where I've consumed a front before a rear. The front ended up with a similar cross-section profile to a wiper blade.

The new PR3s look odd with all of those fine cuts in them. I can see how that may improve their grippiness but will wait and see what the pundits say about their durability before I consider a set.

I too am a PR2 fan, I get 12-14,000km fro a set on a GSX1400, and always change both tyres together. Your comment about the front wearing the side off makes me think your yokes have been dropped down the fork tubes or something else is wrong with your front-end set-up. My front tyre lasts better than the rear, by about 1mm of tread depth.

I'm looking fwd to trying the PR3, but I'm also waitng to see how long they last.

[davebullet]

We've managed 17,000kms on the PR2s on the SV650. they are definitely squaring off as you can feel the bike suddenly tip in.

I'd like to fork out for PR3s on the Triple when the Metzelers resign. However, at approx $700 a set the PR3s are quite expensive.

I came across a USA site with free USA shipping which had USD $280 per set (120/70/17 and 180/55/17). Why are tyres so expensive here?

[Damantis]

Is there any proof anywhere that they provide a hundred bucks worth of extra wear over the PR2s? Am considering either for the Firestorm soon but don't wanna pay an extra hundred bucks for a tire that may do better in the wet but not last any longer...

[dogsnbikes]

Comparing the milage I have already done on my 3's to the same milage on the 2's,I already know I will be getting a better milage proberly somewhere around 2500-3000 more k's

[Owl]

Comparing the milage I have already done on my 3's to the same milage on the 2's,I already know I will be getting a better milage proberly somewhere around 2500-3000 more k's

Make sure you keep us posted Bazza!

Out of curiosity, what milage do you get out of a rear PR2?

[dogsnbikes]

Make sure you keep us posted Bazza!

Out of curiosity, what milage do you get out of a rear PR2?

That I will.....a PR2 would give me 8500 being around 80% 2up

[racefactory]

One guy even claims he dragged a peg in the wet - but then they do have this funny habit of lowering their pegs...

Impossible to drag peg in wet on any kind of semi sporty bike in the rain. Not enough grip. Knee down is barely achievable on road tyres in wet, let alone peg.

[colonel]

putting some pr3s on this weekend. got 16000 out of the last set of pr2s sure looking forward to seeing how the 3s go

[Sable]

I learnt the difference between your and you're at primary school.

[pritch]

Impossible to drag peg in wet on any kind of semi sporty bike in the rain. Not enough grip. Knee down is barely achievable on road tyres in wet, let alone peg.

BIKE reported that they got knee down in puddles with the PR3. Mind you, I think the surfaces they test on may be very different to what we ride on?

[jmmk]

putting some pr3s on this weekend. got 16000 out of the last set of pr2s sure looking forward to seeing how the 3s go

I really have no clue how some of you guys manage to get this kind of mileage on your tires. I love the PR2's but usually get about 9000Kms. Bike came with Bridgestone that I only got 5500kms.

[colonel]

Both sets of pr2s i got about the same mileage. only done a scrub in ride so far and they feel reel good. Looking forward to a hard ride now

[slofox]

My SVS used to get 14000 on PR2's. The GSXR gets 9000 out of BT016's...

[DMNTD]

Impossible to drag peg in wet on any kind of semi sporty bike in the rain. Not enough grip. Knee down is barely achievable on road tyres in wet, let alone peg.

So solly G.I...but thee be wrong on that one.

[Maha]

I have just been out to scrub in the new road 3's over the Parapara's....And feel that I must warn others about these tyre's


Your In danger of totally enjoying yourself
I found these very responsive both in the wet drew and the dry this morning ..........................

Have to agree Barry, the are on the Honda as of this morning.
Instant feeling of OMFG.
$658 fitted thanks to cyclestreads.
I am going to love these tyres :love:

[dogsnbikes]

Have to agree Barry, the are on the Honda as of this morning.
Instant feeling of OMFG.
$658 fitted thanks to cyclespot.
I am going to love these tyres :love:

I've done just over 2000k on mine and they feeling great and wearing very well,the rear hasn't feathered as much as the PR2 did at the same milage and if anything I am riding the 3's harder than I did the 2's

[Maha]

I've done just over 2000k on mine and they feeling great and wearing very well,the rear hasn't feathered as much as the PR2 did at the same milage and if anything I am riding the 3's harder than I did the 2's

I didnt realize how fucked my PR2's until I had the 3's put on.
When I looked at them closely is a wonder they went around at all...
Could done without that extra expense right now but what the hey?
Cant put a price on safety.

[dogsnbikes]

I didnt realize how fucked my PR2's until I had the 3's put on.
When I looked at them closely is a wonder they went around at all...
Could done without that extra expense right now but what the hey?
Cant put a price on safety.

I've got 3 more bikes due for tyre's what's your cycletreads acc again:innocent:

[NZsarge]

I've done just over 2000k on mine and they feeling great and wearing very well,the rear hasn't feathered as much as the PR2 did at the same milage and if anything I am riding the 3's harder than I did the 2's
Interesting, read in a skim over of an artical in a UK mag that they thought in the dry the Road 2's might have a teeny weeny edge in grip but the wet weather performance on the Road 3's was awesome and considerably better than the 2's.

I didnt realize how fucked my PR2's until I had the 3's put on.


That's the good thing about the 2's I reckon apart from the wear rates and general performance is that you don't reeaally notice drop off's in performance until the end of their life unlike say the Pirelli Angel's I tried which started out really well but degraded quite rapidly into rubberized puss!
It's only really when you put fresh tires on that it really strikes you how the Road 2's had fallen away from the state when new. Even then they are not a horrible tyre.

[ynot slow]

PR2 give false sense of security lol,checked mine as per usual each month,thought in March maybe get through winter with tread depth etc,still handling excellent,then a month later (1000km)looked at front and bugger time to replace.The front had almost no tread on side when replaced but never gave any problem,maybe the odd small slip on glossy tar with moisture once that I thought was bad.

After the cheap price for full bore($449)plus sprockets and chain etc decided to take a punt on cheaper tyres,and having quoted PR2 fitted for $599 and about $30 extra for PR3 will bear that in mind,can't see the full bore getting anywhere near 18000km.

[Blackbird]

Might have to check out the PR3's on the Street Triple. Like Koro J, I've been a huge fan of the Avon Storm 2 Ultra's which are different in construction and compounds compared with the original Storms. Also a big fan of the Avon VP2 sport tyres. My long term evaluation of the Storm 2's is here: http://geoffjames.blogspot.com/2011/05/chain-lubricant-and-tyres-couple-of.html

[Damantis]

Done about 7-800kms and lovin' them. Way better handing than the regular pilot Roads I had on it.

[Owl]

I must warn others about these tyre's


Your In danger

Perhaps you're right Barry?:innocent:

241491

Apparently this tyre was replaced under warranty, but then the front PR3 blew out unexpectedly at 35mph, causing a crash.

Bad batch maybe?:blink:

[dogsnbikes]

Perhaps you're right Barry?:innocent:

241491

Apparently this tyre was replaced under warranty, but then the front PR3 blew out unexpectedly at 35mph, causing a crash.

Bad batch maybe?:blink:

Just goes too show expect the unexpected....thats something 86 would do too his tyres to get a new bike

[NZsarge]

Apparently this tyre was replaced under warranty, but then the front PR3 blew out unexpectedly at 35mph, causing a crash.

Bad batch maybe?:blink:
Holy crap, that's not mint!

[yod]

Perhaps you're right Barry?:innocent:

241491

Apparently this tyre was replaced under warranty, but then the front PR3 blew out unexpectedly at 35mph, causing a crash.

Bad batch maybe?:blink:

fuck that for a game of soldiers!

[Grant`]

So far I am loving my PR3's worth every penny I spent on them, riding in the wet feels much like the road surface is still dry.

That could always come back to bite me in the arse with being so much closer to sliding point but thats how much more confidence inspiring they have been.

This has also helped me get better mileage with being smooth in the wet around corners also with dollars saved in gas, so win win in my eyes.

[Maha]

Perhaps you're right Barry?:innocent:

241491

Apparently this tyre was replaced under warranty, but then the front PR3 blew out unexpectedly at 35mph, causing a crash.

Bad batch maybe?:blink:

Dumbarse rode over some road spikes....:scooter:

[Grant`]

Dumbarse rode over some road spikes....:scooter:

Although Pillion pegs are out, wideload on the back maybe?

[Maha]

Although Pillion pegs are out, wideload on the back maybe?

See.....an simple explaination fixes all.
If you are going to carry a fat bastard, increase the psi.

[Grant`]

See.....an simple explaination fixes all.
If you are going to carry a fat bastard, increase the psi.

Its all in the interpretation :blink:

[carbonhed]

I decided to try these over winter because I want to do more riding in the dodgier conditions without worrying about my tyres.

They replaced a set of Mich Power Pures that I quite like and will go back to when the warmer weather returns.

Been very impressed with the 3's, they felt a bit sketchy when I was scrubbing them in... almost like they were walking across the surface, but that soon disappeared. They're slower to turn in than the Pures but very settled when they're on their ear and they don't try to stand you up when you trail brake into a corner. They seem to warm up very quickly and the level of grip is really reassuring particularly when you're moving from dry sunny straights into shady wet corners. I likes em.

[ckai]

I decided to try these over winter because I want to do more riding in the dodgier conditions without worrying about my tyres.

They replaced a set of Mich Power Pures that I quite like and will go back to when the warmer weather returns.

Been very impressed with the 3's, they felt a bit sketchy when I was scrubbing them in... almost like they were walking across the surface, but that soon disappeared. They're slower to turn in than the Pures but very settled when they're on their ear and they don't try to stand you up when you trail brake into a corner. They seem to warm up very quickly and the level of grip is really reassuring particularly when you're moving from dry sunny straights into shady wet corners. I likes em.

This is good to know as I was looking into them as well. I'll be doing the same thing as you, going from Pures to whatever and a 675. I'm looking at something with better wear and most importantly, wet weather grip since my wife is using the bike to go to work every day.

Hopefully when it's time to change, they'll come down from the "new" pricing (fat chance)

[carbonhed]

This is good to know as I was looking into them as well. I'll be doing the same thing as you, going from Pures to whatever and a 675. I'm looking at something with better wear and most importantly, wet weather grip since my wife is using the bike to go to work every day.

Hopefully when it's time to change, they'll come down from the "new" pricing (fat chance)

They're on the Blade not the 675 but don't really see why that should make much difference... although the 675 is more ADHD than the Honda :yes:

[jafar]

I put avon storms on the CB1300 13,000 k ago & they are still only half worn, grip has been as good as the PR2's I've had on before & a lot cheaper than the prices you guys are quoting for the PR3's. $500 for the set:woohoo:
This is with a high percentage of 2 up riding as well.:whocares:

I had a conti road attack on the rear & got 12,000k The PR2 front got 18,000k

[itsnotarace]

Bought a second hand set for the Cold Kiwi trip. Most important thing so far is that they look cool. Fitted up pretty good with the tyre levers, but did have to do a flambé job to get a 180 to bead on a 6"rim. Looking forward to some wet weather hoonage.

[carbonhed]

I put avon storms on the CB1300 13,000 k ago & they are still only half worn, grip has been as good as the PR2's I've had on before & a lot cheaper than the prices you guys are quoting for the PR3's. $500 for the set:woohoo:
This is with a high percentage of 2 up riding as well.:whocares:

I had a conti road attack on the rear & got 12,000k The PR2 front got 18,000k

Was my first time with sports touring type tyres so I was guided by mag reviews and the interweb thingy... for what that's worth.

Bike mag gave the Mich PR3's five stars, the Avon Storm 2 Ultra got one and was described as "Far and away the poorest tyre on test". So the Avons weren't even considered.

Mileage isn't really an issue because I'm bound to get way more than I'm used to... performance is what I'm after.

[jafar]

Was my first time with sports touring type tyres so I was guided by mag reviews and the interweb thingy... for what that's worth. .

Yep we all listen to what other have to say & are to some extent guided by what is said, you also have to look @ who is saying it & what they are riding. For example I ride a CB1300 ,often with a passenger & stuff , you on the other hand ride a blade & a 675 trumpy, very different bikes to mine & I suspect ride them a bit harder than I ride the CB;)


Bike mag gave the Mich PR3's five stars, the Avon Storm 2 Ultra got one and was described as "Far and away the poorest tyre on test". So the Avons weren't even considered..

1/ 'bike' is an english rag, they have different roads there to here.:whocares:
2/ If they were testing on sports bikes then their needs or wants could be different to someone who rides say an ST1300 or a Harley. I brought the Avon's because they were new, the price was right & my local tyre shop reccomended them for my type of bike & my riding style. It was a punt & it has worked for me. :blip:
3/ 'bike' don't test from anything but a sports rider's point of view. I can't remember the last time I read anything from them where they had loaded a bike up with a weeks worth of stuff, the wife & buggered off for a weeks touring. The Avon's handle that very well, I wonder how the pures would look after a week of that ??:facepalm:


Mileage isn't really an issue because I'm bound to get way more than I'm used to... performance is what I'm after.

If your not interested in the mileage & performance is the main consideration a sports/touring tyre is probably not where you should be looking. Most of the major tyre companies have a range of tyres for the crotch rockets, as your bikes fall into that category mabey the pilot pures or the metzeler M3 or M5 ??:innocent:

[carbonhed]

I imagine the Pures would be fairly tired after a week of fully loaded two up touring around the South Island :yes:

The more hardcore sports tyres aren't that much of a joy when it's really cold and wet though so I thought I'd give the 3"s a shot and they're suprisingly good even right out to the edge... although I think they're a slightly flatter profile than I'm used to. They warm up well even now which may mean they will wear faster when it gets hotter... but then I'll just take them off and keep them for next winter... hopefully.

[caspernz]

Pilot Road 3s are ok in my book. More than ok actually, but lets not get too excited, it's just a tyre...

The past couple of years have been Michelin only for me, Pilot Road 2s do about 18000 clicks. Tried a set of Power Pures, just for a change, they lasted around 7000 clicks and were well done by that time.

Pilot Road 3s will be done by about 12000 clicks by my reckoning, with the front reaching the end before the rear. The Power Pures have quite a triangular, ie quick steering profile, whereas the PR3 is a much gentler profile, thus slow steering.

Wet road grip on the PR2 is good, on the PR3 its great. The trade off in tyre life I can live with, but I'm puzzled why Michelin claims a longer tyre life when it quite obviously isn't the case?? Same bike, same rider, same style, PR2 got 18000, whereas PR3 won't get past 12000.....maybe the confidence inspired by the PR3 makes me ride harder?? Nah, I still ride like a nana....

[NZsarge]

Wet road grip on the PR2 is good, on the PR3 its great. The trade off in tyre life I can live with, but I'm puzzled why Michelin claims a longer tyre life when it quite obviously isn't the case?? Same bike, same rider, same style, PR2 got 18000, whereas PR3 won't get past 12000.....maybe the confidence inspired by the PR3 makes me ride harder?? Nah, I still ride like a nana....

It's not the first time i've heard that the 3's aren't lasting as long as the 2's, your comments seem consistent to what i've heard about them so far.

[caspernz]

It's not the first time i've heard that the 3's aren't lasting as long as the 2's, your comments seem consistent to what i've heard about them so far.

Yeah well, the PR3s are all good, but when someone reckons they last longer than PR2s I get suspicious. If PR3s are lasting longer something else has changed as well....

[NZsarge]

Yeah well, the PR3s are all good, but when someone reckons they last longer than PR2s I get suspicious. If PR3s are lasting longer something else has changed as well....

Perhaps under their "test lab" conditions at Michelin the 3's did last long but here in NZ it seems with the coarse chip roads it's not the case thus far. Although the claim to better wet weather performance fair enough.

[banditrider]

Yeah, mine only have around 2,500km and I'm pondering their wear. Checked out the rear the other day and I reckon it may be a bit softer as it certainly looks like it's had a bit of work. Putting another 2k on them this weekend so it'll be interesting to check them out when I'm back...

Only one way to find out...:scooter:

[Gremlin]

Well, I've just had the Michelin Pilot Road 3 Trails fitted, in time for the Grand Challenge. Got 4-5000km coming up in the next month, so we'll see how they go...

The PR3T has a different compound layout in the rear to suit the heavier big adventure bikes, with more hard rubber in a wider band down the centre.

[dogsnbikes]

Well I am just over 7500ks on my PR3s and still going strong,We are taking the bike away this weekend and that will take us up over 8000k easy.In less than 3 weeks we will be in the south Island but am putting a new tyre on for that trip as we are looking at doing 4000 or so Ks while we are there,and don't like the thought of wasting a day getting a tyre when I should be riding:lol:

Here are some photos judge for yourself's,remembering that 85-90% is two-up

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[Blackbird]

Well I am just over 7500ks on my PR3s and still going strong,We are taking the bike away this weekend and that will take us up over 8000k easy.In less than 3 weeks we will be in the south Island but am putting a new tyre on for that trip as we are looking at doing 4000 or so Ks while we are there,and don't like the thought of wasting a day getting a tyre when I should be riding:lol:

Here are some photos judge for yourself's,remembering that 85-90% is two-up

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Looks like the rear has kept is profile really well. How have the sides of the front stood up? Any sign of triangulation? I've only done 4500 km and they're looking great, but I'm solo on a lighter bike with probably a more aggressive steering geometry. Mightily impressed so far though.

What tyre pressures do you run? Mine are 40R / 36F cold.

[dogsnbikes]

Looks like the rear has kept is profile really well. How have the sides of the front stood up? Any sign of triangulation? I've only done 4500 km and they're looking great, but I'm solo on a lighter bike with probably a more aggressive steering geometry. Mightily impressed so far though.

What tyre pressures do you run? Mine are 40R / 36F cold.

Judge for yourself but its a fairly even wear pattern,I run 42psi rear and 36psi front,we do alot of touring and the bike is run rather agressive but set up for our style of riding,its funny when people relise the pillon is wearing knee sliders:lol:

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[Blackbird]

Judge for yourself but its a fairly even wear pattern,I run 42psi rear and 36psi front,we do alot of touring and the bike is run rather agressive but set up for our style of riding,its funny when people relise the pillon is wearing knee sliders:lol:

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Thanks for that!:clap:

It does look pretty even, especially for the distance and weight you've carried. I think that the PR3's look to have a good future. What impresses me in particular is how well the front grips in the wet.

[jrandom]

Your In danger of totally enjoying yourself

Various crimes were committed in the process of writing this sentence, including, but not limited to, the advocacy of mediocre tyres.

[superman]

I only get 10,000km out of Pirelli Sport Demons, guess they're only $300 for the set and the bike has no grip issues due to its minimal torque output. :yes:

[Gremlin]

An update. The set of PR3T have done 5000km in the pictures attached. The rear did start off brand new looking a little flat through the middle, but now you can feel it getting flat in the middle. Performance has been very good, and even took some prodding before letting go in the pissing rain in the Forgotten Highway during the Capital Cruise. Mileage has been almost exclusively sealed roads.

Overall quite happy, but it doesn't look like it will last a long time. Only disadvantage (and not surprising) is that the BMW is now pretty much a road bike on gravel, so that would probably be the only reason for switching to something else, to give me a bit more dual purpose ability. That said, it's my tyre of choice for lots of road km.

Will update when I've added some more mileage.

[Blackbird]

Thanks for that Gremlin - great to share experiences. I've just photographed mine at a pretty much identical distance for comparison. They've retained their profile exceptionally well, although as I live on the Coromandel Peninsula, that might well help the profile with a bit of wear on the sides too! The other factors are that the Street Triple has reasonably aggressive steering geometry and combined with weighing only 167 kg, dry, that's bound to help a bit in terms of life.

I find them a superb all-round tyre, especially in the wet and like you; found them good in the mud down the Forgotten Highway 2 weekends ago. They feel a little slower to tip in than the Avon Storm Ultras which have a similar profile to their VP2 sport tyres but the difference isn't huge. Based on experience so far, I'll definitely buy another pair.

[banditrider]

A 5,000km comparison eh? I'm in. The front is looking pretty good though I reckon it feels a bit more vague (to me anyway) than a PR2 - no issues with it's grip though. I think that the rear is possibly a bit softer on the sides than a 2 - you can see that a bit in the wear (got given some stick at the GC scrutineering - ooh someone's been playing). So far I'm liking them so lets just see if they go another 7k (usually get around 12k from a 2)...

[caspernz]

Hi guys,
Just done a few thousand clicks in the past few days, so it's about time to add my pics to this mix...
This set has now reached just over 10000 kms and while there's a small flat spot, the profile is still sweet to ride on. The mix has been about 25% commuting and 75% touring, all one up with light luggage. It helps that my bike doesn't even have 100hp and I don't push too hard....

[dogsnbikes]

9200ks from my first PR3 rear and still have another 2000ks left in it at least I put a new rear on last week and have spent the last 29 hours scrubbing it in in the south island 480ks yesterday in the wet and 890ks today in the dry its been O for Orsum:bleh:

[Gremlin]

Cycletreads now has the PR3T in stock: http://www.cycletreads.co.nz/products/304-michelin_trail/7297-michelin_pilot_road_3_trail_tr.aspx

Previously expected it to only arrive next year, so that's pretty sweet.

[jaffaonajappa]

yup, just been to cycle treads - they have $499 special for the pair. Pr3. some peace of mind in the wet....cant hurt aye :)

[dogsnbikes]

9200ks from my first PR3 rear and still have another 2000ks left in it at least I put a new rear on last week and have spent the last 29 hours scrubbing it in in the south island 480ks yesterday in the wet and 890ks today in the dry its been O for Orsum:bleh:

Its been so long ago since I replced the PR3 on the Daytona l'm quoting myself ...

Well I am almost up for a replacement and currently sitting on 12988ks

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[Maha]

Certainly done well there Barry, I have just ordered a set of T30's ($550 fitted) to replace to current 021's after 14,000 kms.