Estoril MotoGP

[BMWST?]

its on again
Stoner
Stoner
Stoner

[hayd3n]

yups yups yup























rossi ftw

[DidJit]

Looks like the weather (http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/POXX0082) may be a factor again.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Stoner

Pedrosa

Lorenzo

Dovi

Spies

[denill]

Looks like the weather (http://www.weather.com/weather/tenday/POXX0082) may be a factor again.

Mmmmm. Bugger. Heavy rain.....................

Not another crazy, frenetic race like Jerez?? That would be toooooo much. :facepalm:

[carbonhed]

Well if the weather is wet I doubt that Rossi'll screw it up twice in a row so he'll be in the mix... as will Lorenzo because he doesn't need to take risks.... aaaand Stoner because he's just really good and has the bike under him.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Well if the weather is wet I doubt that Rossi'll screw it up twice in a row so he'll be in the mix... as will Lorenzo because he doesn't need to take risks.... aaaand Stoner because he's just really good and has the bike under him.

Yeah and wee Pedro goes pretty good in the rain too...and rain will be easier on his poor wee shoulder!

[carbonhed]

Yeah and wee Pedro goes pretty good in the rain too...and rain will be easier on his poor wee shoulder!

I really hope the surgery has fixed his problem. The more functioning Aliens the better. Maybe Simoncelli can nail a podium... enough of the potential...bring the fucker home!

[spookytooth]

... aaaand Stoner because he's just really good and has the bike under him.

I hear he has chipped a finger nail so may not race

[carbonhed]

I hear he has chipped a finger nail so may not race

Well that's his weekend fucked then :laugh:

[BMWST?]

Stoner

Pedrosa

Lorenzo

Dovi

Spies

dovi eh...i hope you right i dont think we have seen the best of him yet.

[blackdog]

Rossi

Lorenzo

Spies

Stoner and Pedrosa

(I pulled that out of a hat) would be nice to see Dovi go to the front.

[Damien_Toman]

If wet:

Stoner (fastest man on the planet - on MotoGP bike)
Rossi (v fast in the wet even on the ol' bad duke - won't make the same mistake as last time)
Hayden (good in the wet and at this track - needs to prove he can do well without the help of everybody else crashing)
Simoncelli (in fine form - won't make mistake of last time)
Lorenzo (leading championship - keeping cool - thinking about final EOY result)
Crutchlow (hopefully finger not a problem - wants to make his mark, and will soon)
Spies (I think he is after a top-3 position for the year - won't make mistake of last time)

If dry:

Stoner (fastest man on the planet)
Lorenzo (2nd will be easy, keeping it safe)
Spies (I think he is after a top-3 position for the year - won't make mistake of last time)
Dovi (needs a good result and has good pace)
Crutchlow (hopefully finger not a problem - wants to make his mark, and will soon)
Pedrosa (dark horse - I expect he will need a bit more time to recover but will then be winning races).

:)

[rachprice]

I hear he has chipped a finger nail so may not race

Dude if you had seen him ride you wouldn't be saying that

Plus every other bastard (esp Rossi) has a bitch so why can't he?

[Crasherfromwayback]

If wet:

Stoner (fastest man on the planet - on MotoGP bike)

If dry:

Stoner (fastest man on the planet)

:)

Correct!!!

[DidJit]

Correct!!!

:lol: Love the unbiased, open-minded view of fans (myself included). ;) Looking forward to it all — been a bit of a wait!

[Crasherfromwayback]

:lol: Love the unbiased, open-minded view of fans (myself included). ;) Looking forward to it all — been a bit of a wait!

Aye!

This is interesting...

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Apr/110428rydernotes.htm

[Crasherfromwayback]

As is this. And people think Stoner is a moaner???

http://www.motorcycledaily.com/2011/04/combined-rider-and-bike-weight-limit-for-moto-gp-what-do-you-think/

What a crock of shit!!! It's harder for the lil fellas to turn the bike at high speed etc, so it all balances out. Funny also that it's not like the smallest guy has been winning all the titles either.

[Kendog]

Is this a new request from Rossi, or was he asking for this while he was winning championships?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Is this a new request from Rossi, or was he asking for this while he was winning championships?

Makes no difference in my opinion. It's a load of shit that should be laughed off.

[DidJit]

I really like this blog (http://motomatters.com/report/2011/04/27/2011_estoril_motogp_preview_rematch_in_t.html)...

[Crasherfromwayback]

I really like this blog (http://motomatters.com/report/2011/04/27/2011_estoril_motogp_preview_rematch_in_t.html)...

Yeah. Bit sick of hearing about Rossi's shoulder though...

[DidJit]

Sounds more like you're sick of hearing about Rossi full stop. :lol: Me, I don't care who wins; I'm just looking forward to seeing some racing! :yes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Sounds more like you're sick of hearing about Rossi full stop. :lol: Me, I don't care who wins; I'm just looking forward to seeing some racing! :yes:

Nah...I love watching the guy race. More at the front dicing the merrier.

[denill]

Quote: "Whenever Casey Stoner hears of the need for development work on the Ducati, the - now - Repsol Honda rider takes obvious delight in pointing out that this was the machine he won three of the last six races of 2010 on, the 2011 bike being virtually identical to the Desmosedici GP10 machine"

And why would he not? :yes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

And why would he not? :yes:

And the Honda is virtually the same beast they finished 2010 with too I believe...

[pritch]

What a crock of shit!!! It's harder for the lil fellas to turn the bike at high speed etc, so it all balances out. .

So haven't you guys been reading anything? :whistle:
It's all about the fuel allowances, Simoncelli's bike has cut power before the end of the race to conserve fuel. That gives the midgets a big advantage.

Even Stoner is on record as wanting the fuel alolowance increased to 24L.

"Stoner also decried the electronic controls, saying that he spent most of his time working on electronics setup rather than anything else on the bike. When asked if that was due to the fuel limits, Stoner said they definitely played a part, and he was vehement that the current limits had no part in racing. "Why do we have these limits again?" Stoner asked, posing a rhetorical question which is echoed by the vast majority of MotoGP fans. His solution was simple, clear, and vociferous: "Give us 24 liters!" he demanded, but the MSMA seem currently disinclined to listen." This from Motomatters

[Crasherfromwayback]

So haven't you guys been reading anything? :whistle:
It's all about the fuel allowances, Simoncelli's bike has cut power before the end of the race to conserve fuel. That gives the midgets a big advantage.

Even Stoner is on record as wanting the fuel alolowance increased to 24L.

"Stoner also decried the electronic controls, saying that he spent most of his time working on electronics setup rather than anything else on the bike. When asked if that was due to the fuel limits, Stoner said they definitely played a part, and he was vehement that the current limits had no part in racing. "Why do we have these limits again?" Stoner asked, posing a rhetorical question which is echoed by the vast majority of MotoGP fans. His solution was simple, clear, and vociferous: "Give us 24 liters!" he demanded, but the MSMA seem currently disinclined to listen." This from Motomatters

Pedrosa had his Honda do it last year too due to an era. I don't think Stoner is moaning about Dani's weight...more about the bikes should be allowed as much fuel as they want from a power point of view. Another thing Stoner has said, is that he thinks it's tough on Dani mid corner from a traction point of view. So Like I say...it all balances out.

Last thing we need is another fucking rule fucking with the sport. There's always been size differences...but not many people moan about it.

[pritch]

Last thing we need is another fucking rule fucking with the sport. There's always been size differences...but not many people moan about it.

I agree with the sentiment but if they dropped the fuel restriction, currently 21 L IIRC, there would be one less rule and the playing field would be more level.

Something of a worry - Dorna have engaged more experts, hopefuly not to help with new rules but...

[pritch]

1 58 Marco SIMONCELLI HONDA
2 27 Casey STONER HONDA
3 26 Dani PEDROSA HONDA
4 1 Jorge LORENZO YAMAHA
5 46 Valentino ROSSI DUCATI
6 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO HONDA
7 5 Colin EDWARDS YAMAHA
8 11 Ben SPIES YAMAHA
9 8 Hector BARBERA DUCATI
10 14 Randy DE PUNIET DUCATI
11 65 Loris CAPIROSSI DUCATI
12 7 Hiroshi AOYAMA HONDA
13 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW YAMAHA
14 69 Nicky HAYDEN DUCATI
15 24 Toni ELIAS HONDA
16 17 Karel ABRAHAM DUCATI
17 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SUZUKI

[Damien_Toman]

MotoGP FP2:

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Moto2 FP2 now happening - in the wet! Bradley Smith looking good.

[pritch]

From MotoMatters


Marco Simoncelli has shown that his fast time in the morning session at Estoril was no fluke by taking top spot in FP2 for the MotoGP class. The San Carlo Gresini Honda rider just edged Yamaha's Jorge Lorenzo, who was in turn just three thousandths of a second faster than Repsol Dani Pedrosa. Valentino Rossi ended the session in 4th but with an identical time to Casey Stoner, posted right at the every end of the session, and from directly behind the tail of Stoner's Repsol Honda. Stoner threw a little fuel on the fire at the end of his lap by turning round to Rossi and tapping the tail of his Honda, insinuating that the only reason Rossi set that time was thanks to a tow by the Australian. Rossi's strong times earlier in the session would appear to contradict such an accusation, however.

Monster Tech 3 Yamaha rider Colin Edwards set the 6th fastest time, finishing ahead of the once again impressive Karel Abraham, the Czech rider putting his Cardion AB Ducati into 7th, ahead of the factory Yamaha of Ben Spies and the factory Ducati of Nicky Hayden. Hector Barbera rounds out the top 10 on the Mapfre Aspar Ducati.

Results:
Pos No. Rider Bike
1 58 Marco SIMONCELLI HONDA
2 1 Jorge LORENZO YAMAHA
3 26 Dani PEDROSA HONDA
4 46 Valentino ROSSI DUCATI
5 27 Casey STONER HONDA
6 5 Colin EDWARDS YAMAHA
7 17 Karel ABRAHAM DUCATI
8 11 Ben SPIES YAMAHA
9 69 Nicky HAYDEN DUCATI
10 8 Hector BARBERA DUCATI
11 7 Hiroshi AOYAMA HONDA
12 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO HONDA
13 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW YAMAHA
14 24 Toni ELIAS HONDA
15 65 Loris CAPIROSSI DUCATI
16 14 Randy DE PUNIET DUCATI
17 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SUZUKI

[Crasherfromwayback]

From MotoMatters


Marco Simoncelli has shown that his fast time in the morning session at Estoril was no fluke by taking top spot in FP2 for the MotoGP class. The San Carlo Gresini Honda rider just edged Yamaha's Jorge Lorenzo, who was in turn just three thousandths of a second faster than Repsol Dani Pedrosa. Valentino Rossi ended the session in 4th but with an identical time to Casey Stoner, posted right at the every end of the session, and from directly behind the tail of Stoner's Repsol Honda. Stoner threw a little fuel on the fire at the end of his lap by turning round to Rossi and tapping the tail of his Honda, insinuating that the only reason Rossi set that time was thanks to a tow by the Australian. Rossi's strong times earlier in the session would appear to contradict such an accusation, however.



Funny as!!

[roogazza]

From MotoMatters


Marco Simoncelli has shown that his fast time in the morning session at Estoril was no fluke by taking top spot in FP2 for the MotoGP class. The San Carlo Gresini Honda rider just edged Yamaha's Jorge Lorenzo, who was in turn just three thousandths of a second faster than Repsol Dani Pedrosa. Valentino Rossi ended the session in 4th but with an identical time to Casey Stoner, posted right at the every end of the session, and from directly behind the tail of Stoner's Repsol Honda. Stoner threw a little fuel on the fire at the end of his lap by turning round to Rossi and tapping the tail of his Honda, insinuating that the only reason Rossi set that time was thanks to a tow by the Australian. Rossi's strong times earlier in the session would appear to contradict such an accusation, however.

Monster Tech 3 Yamaha rider Colin Edwards set the 6th fastest time, finishing ahead of the once again impressive Karel Abraham, the Czech rider putting his Cardion AB Ducati into 7th, ahead of the factory Yamaha of Ben Spies and the factory Ducati of Nicky Hayden. Hector Barbera rounds out the top 10 on the Mapfre Aspar Ducati.

Results:
Pos No. Rider Bike
1 58 Marco SIMONCELLI HONDA
2 1 Jorge LORENZO YAMAHA
3 26 Dani PEDROSA HONDA
4 46 Valentino ROSSI DUCATI
5 27 Casey STONER HONDA
6 5 Colin EDWARDS YAMAHA
7 17 Karel ABRAHAM DUCATI
8 11 Ben SPIES YAMAHA
9 69 Nicky HAYDEN DUCATI
10 8 Hector BARBERA DUCATI
11 7 Hiroshi AOYAMA HONDA
12 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO HONDA
13 35 Cal CRUTCHLOW YAMAHA
14 24 Toni ELIAS HONDA
15 65 Loris CAPIROSSI DUCATI
16 14 Randy DE PUNIET DUCATI
17 19 Alvaro BAUTISTA SUZUKI


Horhay, Rossi, with Pedro and Simocelli fighting over third. <_<

Groaner in therapy by round 6. :rolleyes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Groaner in therapy by round 6. :rolleyes:

What's this about Rossi in therapy Gaz?

[roogazza]

What's this about Rossi in therapy Gaz?

haha, Simoncelli might just surprise everyone ?

[george formby]

haha, Simoncelli might just surprise everyone ?

:woohoo: I love suprises in Motogp!

[Crasherfromwayback]

haha, Simoncelli might just surprise everyone ?

Well if Jerez and the first sessions of this one are anything to go by...might have ourselves another Alien!

[bistard]

Well if Jerez and the first sessions of this one are anything to go by...might have ourselves another Alien!

Get back to work you slacker!!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Get back to work you slacker!!

Fuck that!

[pritch]

There is a really interesting piece at MotoMatters, the link is humungous but the item is headed "2011 Estoril MotoGP Friday Roundup: Of Insults, Shoulders, And Thunderstorms"

As interesting as the personal attacks the riders are making on each other are, and it isn't just Rossi and Stoner, the bit about three kids in the RedBull cup getting knocked unconscious by lightning was a bit ummm shocking(?).

[george formby]

There is a really interesting piece at MotoMatters, the link is humungous but the item is headed "2011 Estoril MotoGP Friday Roundup: Of Insults, Shoulders, And Thunderstorms"

As interesting as the personal attacks the riders are making on each other are, and it isn't just Rossi and Stoner, the bit about three kids in the RedBull cup getting knocked unconscious by lightning was a bit ummm shocking(?).

Really? Striking news!:facepalm:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Really? Striking news!:facepalm:

Bolt from the blue even...

[george formby]

Bolt from the blue even...

Probably just a storm in a teacup.

A'll get me coat..

[slowpoke]

And the Honda is virtually the same beast they finished 2010 with too I believe...

Er.....can't really say that with the new gearbox they've got. Sounds dead sexy, and worth a few tenths/lap. More than enough to make a big difference at that level.

[Brian d marge]

If Rossi and JB get that bike sorted , watch rossi point to his rear and say follow this...

I hope they do get that bike sorted, its a challenge.....

Somethings wrong in Lorenzo land....he doesnt seem to be his cocky old self,,,,,

imho
Stephen

[Crasherfromwayback]

Er.....can't really say that with the new gearbox they've got. Sounds dead sexy, and worth a few tenths/lap. More than enough to make a big difference at that level.

You'll see soon enough mate, as they'll all have the same box soon I'm sure

[Damien_Toman]

Click on this:

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[denill]

Geeez and that was just Qualifying.

Could be some race coming up...................... :woohoo: :woohoo:

[racefactory]

Yes! I can't wait for wet races... dry is just so boring.

[carbonhed]

Well if it doesn't rain Ducati are looking well fooked.

Go Marco Simoncelli!

Lorenzo 0.7 secs ahead of Spies....................

[Brian d marge]

According to Tom tremayne Soft compound wets for everyone , same as Jerez

Simo and lorenzo , pistols at dawn ,,,,, the toys came out of cot !

Stephen

[george formby]

I would find it quiet entertaining to see Pedro & limoncello side by side on the podium.

[jasonu]

Yes! I can't wait for wet races... dry is just so boring.

+1 to that!

[Crasherfromwayback]

Go Marco Simoncelli!

.

Get your arse to the TAB. The Cunt's still paying $10.00

[carbonhed]

Get your arse to the TAB. The Cunt's still paying $10.00

Yeah but there's a reason that he's still paying $10 and that's because he's as flakey as fuck... I'd love him to do it but until he actually nails it... meh.

Sill... he's got the speed hasn't he... you can't buy that.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yeah but there's a reason that he's still paying $10 and that's because he's as flakey as fuck... I'd love him to do it but until he actually nails it... meh.

Sill... he's got the speed hasn't he... you can't buy that.

Yep. It pains me to agree with you...but I do! Last year I honestly didn't think he had it in him. I didn't think he'd carry his speed over to the bike bikes.

Funny eh...but you've got Rossi wanking on about size disadvantages etc (yeah yeah...he hides behind the fuel argument you Rossi fans), but neither he, Lorenzo nor Rossi himself could be considered small...yet they're all ex 250 world champs!!??

So is it really unfair Pedrosa is so small?

[carbonhed]

Yep. It pains me to agree with you...but I do! Last year I honestly didn't think he had it in him. I didn't think he'd carry his speed over to the bike bikes.

Funny eh...but you've got Rossi wanking on about size disadvantages etc (yeah yeah...he hides behind the fuel argument you Rossi fans), but neither he, Lorenzo nor Rossi himself could be considered small...yet they're all ex 250 world champs!!??

So is it really unfair Pedrosa is so small?

I think Roogazza called it right... it's all bullshit... looking for an edge and playing mindgames. See Lorenzo and Simoncelli were sniping at each other too... as soon as you're perceived as a threat or vulnerable... it's all on.

If it does get wet and Rossi comes through it could be spectacular with Stoner and Lorenzo... neither will want to let that particular genie back out of the bottle.

[Brian d marge]

he touched me,,,,,,:crybaby:

Stephen

[Crasherfromwayback]

I think Roogazza called it right... it's all bullshit... looking for an edge and playing mindgames. See Lorenzo and Simoncelli were sniping at each other too... as soon as you're perceived as a threat or vulnerable... it's all on.

If it does get wet and Rossi comes through it could be spectacular with Stoner and Lorenzo... neither will want to let that particular genie back out of the bottle.

Gazz would marry Rossi in a heartbeat! I saw the press conference where they were going for each others throat. Funny as.

For sure the rain is a great equalizer of machinery...and Rossi is one of the greatest wet weather racers of all time. I hope it's dry.

[denill]

Gazz would marry Rossi in a heartbeat! I saw the press conference where they were going for each others throat. Funny as.

For sure the rain is a great equalizer of machinery...and Rossi is one of the greatest wet weather racers of all time. I hope it's dry.

Not sure about - of all time. Anthony Gobert comes to mind and Ant West is up there too.

And yep, Gaz is going to come out of the closet and propose anytime soon. :yes:

[denill]

Five pages! And the race hasn't even started................. :woohoo: :woohoo:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Not sure about - of all time. Anthony Gobert comes to mind and Ant West is up there too.



You must've missed the 'one of' part of my post mate!

[Matt Bleck]

if you want to watch free streaming live you can go to http://livetv.ru/en/ click the little icon top left that looks like a F1 car, this will show what events are currently being streamed. In most instances there is a webcast, but these are normally stop start, there is also a sopcast option available to stream but you need to downlaod an app for that but it's normally better quality. (download here (http://download.cnet.com/1770-20_4-0.html?query=soupcast&platformSelect=Windows&tag=srch&searchtype=downloads&filterName=platform%3DWindows&filter=platform%3DWindows))

The only down side to this free coverage is that the commentry is normally anything other than english.

[denill]

You must've missed the 'one of' part of my post mate!

Did too, but hey, enjoy the race................. :yes: :yes:

[Crasherfromwayback]

Did too, but hey, enjoy the race................. :yes: :yes:

I'm sure I will. Stoner-Stoner-Stoner come on! Rossi-Rossi-Rossi = sore bum.

[Badjelly]

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/01052011/58/stoner-quit-pain.html

How’s your back, Casey? Is it okay? (http://www.zimbio.com/Valentino+Rossi/articles/4nybjajHcoP/Rossi+vs+Stoner+Apology+Transcript)

[roogazza]

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I'm shattered I thought there was a chance ?

And yep, Gaz is going to come out of the closet and propose anytime soon. :yes:[/QUOTE]

[roogazza]

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/01052011/58/stoner-quit-pain.html

How’s your back, Casey? Is it okay? (http://www.zimbio.com/Valentino+Rossi/articles/4nybjajHcoP/Rossi+vs+Stoner+Apology+Transcript)

Simoncelli was just too wuff !

[Crasherfromwayback]

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/01052011/58/stoner-quit-pain.html

How’s your back, Casey? Is it okay? (http://www.zimbio.com/Valentino+Rossi/articles/4nybjajHcoP/Rossi+vs+Stoner+Apology+Transcript)

Probably nearly as sore as Rossi's shoulder!

[carbonhed]

Well done Danny P. Be great to see him ride uninjured.

Ben Spies bizarre race explained

http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/91061

You'd really want to start throwing things wouldn't you?

Got to laugh at Dovi mugging Rossi on the line. Good ride by Valentino though.

[Crasherfromwayback]

237821
I'm shattered I thought there was a chance ?

And yep, Gaz is going to come out of the closet and propose anytime soon. :yes:[/QUOTE]

You've still got a cance Gaz. Doen't look like he's really that into the chick!

[Matt Bleck]

wtf is up with Spies!!!! nooooot 'appy!

[Crasherfromwayback]

]How’s your back, Casey? Is it okay?[/URL]


Simoncelli was just too wuff !

Rossi... "so he had me do all the work for 28 laps before making his attempt, and he got me by twenty-five thousandths."

It's called racing.

[pritch]

Rossi... "so he had me do all the work for 28 laps before making his attempt, and he got me by twenty-five thousandths."


Your quote is a little selective, to give the comment the proper context it was preceded by this, " Dovizioso obviously rode a race that was strategically perfect. I think he played with me a little, knowing that on the straight, he could probably beat me to the line. "

Which makes it look rather different?

[Crasherfromwayback]

Your quote is a little selective, to give the comment the proper context it was preceded by this, " Dovizioso obviously rode a race that was strategically perfect. I think he played with me a little, knowing that on the straight, he could probably beat me to the line. "

Which makes it look rather different?

Yeah. It makes it look like Rossi is bitching about the Honda being faster than his Ducati...which is odd when you check the top speeds of the bikes...

1 58 Marco SIMONCELLI ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 302.1 1'38.032
2 27 Casey STONER AUS Repsol Honda Team Honda 299.2 1'38.241 0.209 / 0.209
3 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 300.6 1'38.259 0.227 / 0.018
4 1 Jorge LORENZO SPA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 292.1 1'38.413 0.381 / 0.154
5 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Ducati Team Ducati 307.7 1'38.569 0.537 / 0.156

[denill]

Yeah. It makes it look like Rossi is bitching about the Honda being faster than his Ducati...which is odd when you check the top speeds of the bikes...

1 58 Marco SIMONCELLI ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 302.1 1'38.032
2 27 Casey STONER AUS Repsol Honda Team Honda 299.2 1'38.241 0.209 / 0.209
3 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 300.6 1'38.259 0.227 / 0.018
4 1 Jorge LORENZO SPA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 292.1 1'38.413 0.381 / 0.154
5 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Ducati Team Ducati 307.7 1'38.569 0.537 / 0.156

15.6 kph between Lorenzo and Rossi?

[Crasherfromwayback]

15.6 kph between Lorenzo and Rossi?

Yeah how 'bout that!!?? I remember when Stoner was kicking arse in 2007 on the Ducati...and it was only because the bike was so fast. You'd think Rossi would do the same.

But anyway...how well did Dani go??!!

[denill]

Yeah how 'bout that!!?? I remember when Stoner was kicking arse in 2007 on the Ducati...and it was only because the bike was so fast. You'd think Rossi would do the same.

So far this season Rossi has achieved in underlining just how bloody good Stoner rode the Italian bike.

The last 4 races of the 2010 season that he finished, Stoner went 1st, 1st, 1st and 2nd. That is on the machine they are now trying hard to make competitive in 2011 - with Rossi and JB on board. :innocent:


But anyway...how well did Dani go??!!

Dani did well. And has put himself right into the frame.

[DidJit]

So far this season Rossi has achieved in underlining just how bloody good Stoner rode the Italian bike.

:yes:


Dani did well. And has put himself right into the frame.

Very well. How good was it to see him open the bike up on the last few laps!

[denill]

Very well. How good was it to see him open the bike up on the last few laps!

Yeah. A nice bit of race craft. Looked like he was doing his best - but was saving himself for the last. A well earned win. Mature race by Jorge too. :yes:

[slowpoke]

Rossi... "so he had me do all the work for 28 laps before making his attempt, and he got me by twenty-five thousandths."

It's called racing.


Your quote is a little selective, to give the comment the proper context it was preceded by this, " Dovizioso obviously rode a race that was strategically perfect. I think he played with me a little, knowing that on the straight, he could probably beat me to the line. "

Which makes it look rather different?

Yep, and I remember Doohan being a lot less complimenatry towards Creville when he did the same thing back in the day.


Yeah. It makes it look like Rossi is bitching about the Honda being faster than his Ducati...which is odd when you check the top speeds of the bikes...

1 58 Marco SIMONCELLI ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 302.1 1'38.032
2 27 Casey STONER AUS Repsol Honda Team Honda 299.2 1'38.241 0.209 / 0.209
3 26 Dani PEDROSA SPA Repsol Honda Team Honda 300.6 1'38.259 0.227 / 0.018
4 1 Jorge LORENZO SPA Yamaha Factory Racing Yamaha 292.1 1'38.413 0.381 / 0.154
5 46 Valentino ROSSI ITA Ducati Team Ducati 307.7 1'38.569 0.537 / 0.156

Top speed is one thing though, and getting there is something else. The Honda could well leap off the turns a bit better while the Duc could be more top endy, hauling arse on the latter half of the straight. There are lotsa ways to get round a race track quickly.


So far this season Rossi has achieved in underlining just how bloody good Stoner rode the Italian bike.

The last 4 races of the 2010 season that he finished, Stoner went 1st, 1st, 1st and 2nd. That is on the machine they are now trying hard to make competitive in 2011 - with Rossi and JB on board. :innocent:


No argument Stoner is farkin' amazing (although not as amazing as his missus, couldn't have a MotoGP thread without mentioning Adriana :drool:) but to be fair he had 4 seasons racing the thing, wheras Rossi's had 4 races.

[denill]

No argument Stoner is farkin' amazing (although not as amazing as his missus, couldn't have a MotoGP thread without mentioning Adriana :drool:) but to be fair he had 4 seasons racing the thing, wheras Rossi's had 4 races.

Being fair - do I recollect correctly, that on his very first ride on the Ducati at Qatar, he blew the socks off everyone? :innocent:

[eelracing]

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Topless with a fag in her hand:innocent:...I'm surprised Caseyfromwayback missed that one.

What a great race and Dani proved me wrong when during the proceedings I thought he'd eventually fade.When he wick'd that Honda up Jorge did'nt have an answer (Yamaha should be worried)

Biggest dissapointment was Simoncelli was'nt there to really spark it up.He will get there eventually and experience would of told him to cool it after both he and Stoner had plenty of warning in the first corner.Gotta love a charger tho cos there's never a dull moment.:corn:

Casey rode a good race and with this year looking increasingly like a Honda benefit the more points a Simo or Rossi can steal off of the two current front runners the better his championship challenge will be.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Yep, and I remember Doohan being a lot less complimenatry towards Creville when he did the same thing back in the day.

Top speed is one thing though, and getting there is something else. The Honda could well leap off the turns a bit better while the Duc could be more top endy,

but to be fair he had 4 seasons racing the thing, wheras Rossi's had 4 races.

Yep. Doohan uesed to moan and groan all the time about that. Funny eh. As far as I'm concerned, if you're better than the guy you're accusing of simply following you, pull, the pin and fuck off. Nothing at all wrong with hanging with the guy (s) in front of you until the last moment and putting a pass on them so they have no time to do it back to you. It's called RACECRAFT.

You know how bikes get good top speed down straights eh mate? Drive off the corners. That's why the best race tuners strive to find torque more so than outright hp. Torque = drive = speed.

4 seasons? How many did Stoner have on the Ducati before winning the Championship? Oh that's right...1. Stoner also had poles, and podiums on his first year on the satellite Honda...a bike he'd never ridden before, in a class he was new too.


Being fair - do I recollect correctly, that on his very first ride on the Ducati at Qatar, he blew the socks off everyone? :innocent:

And beat Rossi in only his second year in the premier class, setting a fair few records along the way.


Topless with a fag in her hand:innocent:...I'm surprised Caseyfromwayback missed that one.

Biggest dissapointment was Simoncelli was'nt there to really spark it up.He will get there eventually and experience would of told him to cool it after both he and Stoner had plenty of warning in the first corner.Gotta love a charger tho cos there's never a dull moment.:corn:

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No...I did see that mate. But that's not the only reason he's not enjoying kissing her!

And yep. I too was pissed of the mental WOP binned it. Was looking forward to seeing him go mental up front.

[Brett]

Your quote is a little selective, to give the comment the proper context it was preceded by this, " Dovizioso obviously rode a race that was strategically perfect. I think he played with me a little, knowing that on the straight, he could probably beat me to the line. "

Which makes it look rather different?

Context is golden.

Dani rode a good ride, jumped out of my seat when he got past Lorenzo. Can't wait to see what he pulls up once he is fully race-fit.

[Berries]

My tip -

Pedrosa

Lorenzo

Stoner

Dovi

Rossi

[denill]

Now that's a surprise...... :innocent:

Gresini Honda's Simoncelli Fastest At Estoril MotoGP Test :

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/May/110502sictest.htm

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Teaming up Stoner with Pedrosa looked like a possible recipe for disaster but it's starting to look like a masterstroke. Has Dani ever ridden better?

[denill]

Teaming up Stoner with Pedrosa looked like a possible recipe for disaster but it's starting to look like a masterstroke. Has Dani ever ridden better?

Julian Ryder likes his chances too.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/May/110503a.htm

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Julian Ryder likes his chances too.

http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/May/110503a.htm

Nice article.

Amazing though Stoner is Pedro's been riding that Honda for a long time so if there's setup problems you've got to think he's at an advantage.

Can't remember where I heard it but some commentator was talking about Lorenzo last year when Rossi was out injured beginning to get frustrated with the M1 but as soon as Rossi came back and was quick he just had to STFU and ride. It seems like the same deal with Stoner and Pedrosa... one of them's always on to it so the other just has to knuckle down and go.

[Cleve]

Respect for Pedrosa.
1. He is still recovering from serious injury
2. He is not a whinger and moaner. I am not sure but I don't think once he has complained about dangerous riding by other riders or accused others of following him etc etc

[Dutchee]

But he's often taken himself out while leading, taken out his team mate, probably had complaints against him, and until he crosses the line, I wouldn't put any money on him. He's also had a lot of pressure put on him, where they've expected him to do better than he did (i.e. take out the championship).

In saying that, I do like him and hope he goes really well this year. Then again, I was pleased when Stoner won his first race (but changed my tune quickly afterwards lol).

I think it's on the Faster DVD where someone comments that racers are rarely at 100% fitness due to injury, and that is becoming more the case at the moment (there are times when it seems a total exaggeration as no one's really riding injured).

Ah well, so long as Stoner or Jorge doesn't win the championship this year, I'll be happy.

[Crasherfromwayback]

Ah well, so long as Stoner or Jorge doesn't win the championship this year, I'll be happy.

Smart money says one of them will. As blindingly fast as Pedrosa is, he's not often enough to win it. I'd be more than happy to be proven wrong though. Several different champs in several years makes it great!