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PrincessBandit

2nd May 2011, 23:13

Jantar

2nd May 2011, 23:21

I'm with the teacher on this one. The photo shoot wasn't even in New Zealand, and it was published in an R18 magazine that none of her pupils are permitted to buy.

As long as she keeps that part of her life outside the classroom, I don't have any issue with it.

PrincessBandit

2nd May 2011, 23:32

I think I'm on her side as well, despite being lectured about professional (read "moral") ethics at college.

onearmedbandit

2nd May 2011, 23:38

I'd want to look into it further before making any rash decisions...

Laava

2nd May 2011, 23:41

I don't have any issue with it.

I'd like to have an issue with it! Prob available on the top shelf at my local dairy I guess? Pics please!

ac3_snow

3rd May 2011, 00:01

I'd want to look into it further before making any rash decisions...

ditto where are the pictures?!

ducatilover

3rd May 2011, 00:17

Links and pics so I can look over the matter :yes:

I think she shouldn't be treated like that though, I personally admire the female form and I am sure any red blooded males will too, it won't distract them from school work that much.
It's flippin' rubbish! She's a sexy woman, not a kiddy touching, drug selling, Llama fur trading wench for goodness sake.

edit
NSFW (If you can't work out a play boy issue isn't work safe, get a new job sweeping hair)
http://hothottie.com/94/hot-for-teacher/

ac3_snow

3rd May 2011, 00:42

probably would have passed 7th form if I had her as a teacher :love:

slofox

3rd May 2011, 06:15

NZTC is a bunch of wowzers...

NighthawkNZ

3rd May 2011, 07:26

photo's or it didn't happen...

BoristheBiter

3rd May 2011, 07:41

probably would have passed 7th form if I had her as a teacher :love:

Don't know if i would have passed, but i would have been there a lot more:msn-wink:

scissorhands

3rd May 2011, 08:11

Sexy as student teacher in the sixth form. Us back row boys always tried to get a rise, a nipple rise, out of her. I can see them now......I still dream about her

Was a bit of a distraction....

oneofsix

3rd May 2011, 08:20

Sexy as student teacher in the sixth form. Us back row boys always tried to get a rise, a nipple rise, out of her. I can see them now......I still dream about her

Was a bit of a distraction....

Back row boys getting a rise :sick:

Teachers have always had harsh moral requirements, visit a historical school and read some of the contracts. at one stage they weren't allowed to be married and weren't allowed any freedom to meet anyone. About time the NZTC came into the 21st century. Perhaps they are taking their lead from the Broadcasting Tribunal :shutup:

oldrider

3rd May 2011, 08:32

Oh, and for anyone terrified that I'm thinking of following suit, you needn't worry. It's purely an academic question...

Damn! :facepalm:

On the academic question of the teachers rights though, I am with her all the way!

oneofsix

3rd May 2011, 08:41

Oh, and for anyone terrified that I'm thinking of following suit, you needn't worry. It's purely an academic question...

And if we are not terrified will you be providing birthday suit pics? :shutup:

What age group was she teaching? It might matter to some and I think would influence my initial reaction. Kids below 10/12 wouldn't care but it is more likely their parents would. Parents will care up to and some past 16 and the kids will care more as they get older. But will it distract the kids from the lessons? only initially or if they weren't going to pay attention anyhow.

NinjaNanna

3rd May 2011, 08:48

And if we are not terrified will you be providing birthday suit pics? :shutup:

What age group was she teaching? It might matter to some and I think would influence my initial reaction. Kids below 10/12 wouldn't care but it is more likely their parents would. Parents will care up to and some past 16 and the kids will care more as they get older. But will it distract the kids from the lessons? only initially or if they weren't going to pay attention anyhow.

I was thinking the same thing. If she's a primary school teacher who cares the kids won't be looking.

If she's a secondary school teacher then that's a bit dodgey.

Winston001

3rd May 2011, 09:15

Tend to agree with most of you but if she was teaching my kids...dunno. I'm uncomfortable about it.

The policewoman who worked as a prostitute was only censured not fired as far as I know. That would have been a worse conflict of occupation than posing for skin pics.

MisterD

3rd May 2011, 09:19

Tend to agree with most of you but if she was teaching my kids...dunno. I'm uncomfortable about it.

She's probably not a union member...otherwise they'd be protecting her position even if she'd been photographed with one of her pupils.

superman

3rd May 2011, 09:21

Tend to agree with most of you but if she was teaching my kids...dunno. I'm uncomfortable about it.

Yes I mean honestly being nude is the most disgusting thing a person can do. And then to take pictures of it?! :shit: THE HORROR. Someone please think of the children. :lol:

bogan

3rd May 2011, 09:25

Yes I mean honestly being nude is the most disgusting thing a person can do. And then to take pictures of it?! :shit: THE HORROR. Someone please think of the children. :lol:

Someone please think of us, where are the pictures!

oneofsix

3rd May 2011, 09:28

Someone please think of us, where are the pictures!

Now now no free pics, there's copywrite at stake. You are just going to have to go buy the Playboy back issue.

marie_speeds

3rd May 2011, 09:39

ducatilover

3rd May 2011, 09:52

Someone please think of us, where are the pictures!

Look at my link :rockon: Got the whole deal.

What's so wrong with someone getting naked for a photo shoot? She isn't showing her growler to the kids, she isn't having sex with them and I doubt that's what she wants. She's an attractive lady and should do as she pleases, it'd please me to do her....:yes:

marty

3rd May 2011, 10:14

I'm not a huge fan of the full shave and tat. nice rack though.

SpankMe

3rd May 2011, 10:19

What employees do in their own time is their own business.

Is this her? Rachel Whitwell
237898237899237900237897237901

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/education/3003074/Teacher-shocked-and-gutted-after-nude-pics-outrage

Laava

3rd May 2011, 10:24

Does that tattoo say 'place nose here"?
Or does it say "this space reserved for Steve Crow"!

steve_t

3rd May 2011, 10:29

Wow. I wish I had teachers like that

Insanity_rules

3rd May 2011, 11:13

Does that tattoo say 'place nose here"?
Or does it say "this space reserved for Steve Crow"!

No it says "abandon hope, all ye who enter here". This chick is a complete bunny boiler, it looks great but is as crazy as a soup sandwich! Poor poor Steve (Wow can't believe I actually feel sorry for Steve Crow????).

avgas

3rd May 2011, 11:50

SHE NEEDS TO BE A TEACHER!

it should be compulsory. If she teachers anything - boys will learn.
We need this for the education system in NZ. Our boys are failing.

BoristheBiter

3rd May 2011, 12:33

I'm not a huge fan of the full shave and tat. nice rack though.

Don't mind a shaved muut, not really into fake tits but for some reason i want to learn how to play the piano.

Banditbandit

3rd May 2011, 14:05

oh, and for anyone terrified that i'm thinking of following suit, you needn't worry. It's purely an academic question...

dammmmm ...

oneofsix

3rd May 2011, 15:09

ducatilover

3rd May 2011, 16:15

Don't mind a shaved muut, not really into fake tits but for some reason i want to learn how to play the piano.

I've been playing piano for 14 years now, do you think she'll hop on my stool? (That is the worst homonym I have heard for years....:sick:)

slowpoke

3rd May 2011, 17:13

Seriously is it any wonder that teens have issues with their own sexuality and body image when the message being put out there is that the human body is something not to be admired and should be hidden from view. Have the NZTC board never visited a beach in the middle of summer?

I have real issues with employers dictating what an employee can do on their own personal time. What one does outside of work hours is their own bloody business. Unless of course employers are prepared to 24 hours a day to monitor employees behaviour, they should keep their noses out.

Exactly! Funny how it's OK for Dan Carter to be plastered up in posters wearing nothing but a pair of jocks but this woman can't do something similar, even in a restricted magazine. They are both trading on their sex appeal yet the woman is scorned. Funnily enough I think it's probably women who would be most upset with the Playboy set, yet they'd love their sons to grow up to be like Dan Carter. If Dan Carter was a teacher wouldn't the girls be just as distracted as the boys in this case? Yet, there's no way he'd be deregistered. Congratulations teachers (and any parents who agree with them), you just taught a huge double standard to your kids.

Fatt Max

3rd May 2011, 17:21

Tend to agree with most of you but if she was teaching my kids...dunno. I'm uncomfortable about it..

Fack off.....!!!

If that teacher was teaching my boy I would be right up the front on sports day for the Parent / Teacher wheelbarrow race.

Reckon we need more of 'em myself

Fatt Max

3rd May 2011, 17:22

Actually, I auditioned for a nude photo shoot in Playgirl Magazine back in 1989.

I got down to the last 350,000

BoristheBiter

3rd May 2011, 17:28

Well it turns out she did it to get back at her boyfriend which is none other than Mr NZ porn, Steve Crow.
It was on 60 minutes.

Was funny watching him go on about not having his woman showing her bits off.
I think the pot has found the kettle.

Scouse

3rd May 2011, 17:48

I saw her at the sexpo the photos make her look way sexyer than she looked in person

Winston001

3rd May 2011, 19:05

I have real issues with employers dictating what an employee can do on their own personal time. What one does outside of work hours is their own bloody business.

And if your doctor was doing drugs in his own time...? Or downloading porn of young girls/boys?

AllanB

3rd May 2011, 19:06

I'd give her the learn ..... :love:

FJRider

3rd May 2011, 19:49

I'd give her the learn ..... :love:

Got a minute to spare ... have you .... :innocent:

AllanB

3rd May 2011, 20:09

Got a minute to spare ... have you .... :innocent:

Give her the learn twice in that time! :woohoo:

It's a motorcycle site - surely FAST is good?

BoristheBiter

3rd May 2011, 20:12

And if your doctor was doing drugs in his own time...? Or downloading porn of young girls/boys?

A bit like the holier than now brigade when it comes to the police.

marty

3rd May 2011, 20:25

And if your doctor was doing drugs in his own time...? Or downloading porn of young girls/boys?

I realise that you were replying to a post, but this person's activities have nothing to do with anything illegal.

Brian d marge

3rd May 2011, 21:18

Maki

4th May 2011, 03:35

So the NZ teacher who took her kit off for Playboy has been deregistered by the NZTC. She's planning to appeal it on the grounds that no institution has the right to impose their Victorian standards on her lifestyle outside the classroom. Btw, she left teaching a year ago to pursue modeling.

So kb, what's the moral ground on who can or can't do "exotic" modeling (hey, if it's good enough to say "exotic dancer" then surely modeling can have the same title??)

Will there always be professions where certain "lifestyle choices" are incompatible according to public opinion?

Oh, and for anyone terrified that I'm thinking of following suit, you needn't worry. It's purely an academic question...

I think de-registering someone for no valid reason must be a criminal offense (depriving a person of the means to earn an income). The malicious hags who decided someone should not work as a teacher because she is more good looking than they are should spend some time behind bars to clean up their act and THEY should be de registered. People who are that immature and self centred should not teach anyone anything.

jazfender

4th May 2011, 04:11

holy FXX thats ugly
Waste of a wank that one

Stephen

i'm with this dude. she ain't anything special

BoristheBiter

4th May 2011, 07:35

i'm with this dude. she ain't anything special

Are you?:rofl: does he know?
That will be why you thinks she's nothing special then.

Laava

4th May 2011, 08:03

So was there anything in the agreement she signed that would have led to her losing her registration? I am led to believe that there was. As far as the ED is concerned, it would be better to have her fighting to retain her registration, as opposed to the ED figting to have it removed? Just a thought.

marie_speeds

4th May 2011, 08:59

And if your doctor was doing drugs in his own time...? Or downloading porn of young girls/boys?

This woman is not fiddling with kids and is doing nothing illegal. Child pornography is illegal that is the difference. I don't need to know whether you and your wife use viagara and sex toys to get off or if you have a penchant for doing it in public places as that is none of my business....pictures would be nice though if you did :rofl:

Max Headroom

4th May 2011, 12:44

I probably shouldn't bother responding to this thread, but here goes . . .

As has already been pointed out, there's nothing illegal about the activities Rachel has involved herself in. It's her choice, and hers alone. The arguments so far highlight a few things though; what exactly is in her employment contract, and where does the issue of "morals" enter the equation?

We don't know for certain what her employment contract requires, and I don't know enough about the education sector to comment. The issue of morals is more interesting though, because there are many examples of how this can play out. For example, there would be nothing illegal about employing an alcoholic as a bartender, nor would there be anything illegal about employing a heavy gambler to run a table at Sky City. Most would agree that although there wouldn't be anything illegal in either of those examples, it would probably be unwise. This would fall under the category of a moral judgement. It also used to be called "common sense", but that was long before the murky world of PC-Speak evolved.

There is a tendency these days to only observe Personality, and to ignore Character. With Personality, we only view and measure the superficial, and take the attitude that "as long as they do their job and are pleasant to work with, what they do in their private life is their business". Do we have the right to pry any deeper than that? Is someone else's private life any of our business? What gives us the right to "judge" other people?

These things become important when someone has a position of authority, or if they take a key role in our lives. For example, a High Court judge with an addiction to alcohol may well be able to perform his duties adequately most of the time, but his weakened values may well cause him to make bad calls periodically. His integrity has been weakened, even though he's not necessarily doing anything illegal.

Our friend Rachel hasn't done anything illegal, but she has compromised her integrity. Although her teaching ability is unchanged, how people perceive her professionally will have changed and no doubt that's the concern behind her teaching suspension. Even though her photos were only published in an R18 magazine, they are readily available to any kid with access to Google. Those photos, for all intents and purposes are public, and it would be very difficult for her to be taken seriously in the teaching profession.

We are all given choices in life; but as we soon discover, just because we can doesn't mean we should. For every choice we make, there is an inevitable consequence. Rachel's choice will have consequences she will probably have anticipated, and some that she didn't . . .

So, do we have the right to judge what some else does in private? Where's the line? Personally I wouldn't like to take my chances in front of an alcoholic judge, in case I encountered him with a completely legal hangover. My view is that Rachel's suspension is probably justified, due to her compromised integrity. I would be unhappy to have Rachel teach my children, because in my view she has demonstrated poor values. That may be an unmeasurable intangible and others will probably disagree, but that's my view.

As you were . . .

imdying

4th May 2011, 12:49

Odd, you would think we were past this long ago.

If she wants to be a whore in her spare time, then that's her own business.

Laava

4th May 2011, 13:05

Odd, you would think we were past this long ago.

If she wants to be a whore in her spare time, then that's her own business.

Correct, it is her business, but as she has chosen to bare herself almost publicly then the ramifications are; If she has signed a docoment saying "that as a condition of her registration, she will not flash her bits in a certain way" and she then flashes certain bits, the issuer of the registration has the option of cancelling her registration.
IMO fair enough!

onearmedbandit

4th May 2011, 13:07

With all the fuss you'd almost be excused for thinking she has something that no other female has.

oneofsix

4th May 2011, 13:08

With all the fuss you'd almost be excused for thinking she has something that no other female has.

must be the tattoo then :yes:

Ronin

4th May 2011, 13:17

And if your doctor was doing drugs in his own time...? Or downloading porn of young girls/boys?

Drugs and child porn are illegal and someone somewhere along the line gets hurts. She made the choice to do what she did, it's not illegal and aside from some knob chaffing, no one got hurt.

Ronin

4th May 2011, 13:20

Funny about standards isn't it? My sister is a self serving alcoholic and part time mental patient (no really she is) and yet her registration has yet to be cancelled...

oneofsix

4th May 2011, 13:23

Funny about standards isn't it? My sister is a self serving alcoholic and part time mental patient (no really she is) and yet her registration has yet to be cancelled...

:yes: you would be forgiven for thinking that the adult naked human body used in a heterosexual context was the worst thing ever. I wonder if this goes a long way back to the idea that sex was the original sin? :blink:

avgas

4th May 2011, 13:26

And if your doctor was doing drugs in his own time...? Or downloading porn of young girls/boys?
Or heaven forbid rides a motorbike

onearmedbandit

4th May 2011, 13:31

:yes: you would be forgiven for thinking that the adult naked human body used in a heterosexual context was the worst thing ever. I wonder if this goes a long way back to the idea that sex was the original sin? :blink:

Ooo we're not specifically referring to our naughty bits, our dirty area now are we...

Ronin

4th May 2011, 13:32

:yes: you would be forgiven for thinking that the adult naked human body used in a heterosexual context was the worst thing ever. I wonder if this goes a long way back to the idea that sex was the original sin? :blink:

I'm sure that it does. Most of our Western 'values' and 'morals' come from the power that Christianity has held over the last ohhhh 2000 or so years.

ducatilover

4th May 2011, 14:18

So the teacher from down this way who has developed a relationship with a student (Was a few years back, they're still together) has still got her ticket. So having a relationship is okay, but, showing your front bum isn't?

In their defence, they have been in this relationship for several years and last time I saw them they were very happy with their new born child. :rockon:

He was a hero at school for getting the good looking teacher too, but, didn't affect his grades in the least.

NighthawkNZ

4th May 2011, 14:36

I really should go back to school if she is my teacher

Edbear

4th May 2011, 18:32

I'm sure that it does. Most of our Western 'values' and 'morals' come from the power that Christianity has held over the last ohhhh 2000 or so years.

Just to allay people's fears, sex wasn't the original sin at all, of course. That's another myth...

:Offtopic:

Back on topic... :yes:

Ronin

4th May 2011, 18:36

Just to allay people's fears, sex wasn't the original sin at all, of course. That's another myth...

:Offtopic:

Back on topic... :yes:

I never said it was the original. But it is a sin created by the church to hold power over the masses.

Edbear

4th May 2011, 18:39

I never said it was the original. But it is a sin created by the church to hold power over the masses.

Yeah, you're right of course. Did you know that the Bible even condemns those who are anti-sex, (within marriage on course), and warns against those who make rules like "forbidding to marry"? Hmmm wonder what church does that..?

Oops, still off topic... :facepalm:

MsKABC

4th May 2011, 18:46

I think it's wrong to de-register her. I also think it would be wrong of her to expect any modicum of respect from her students if they were to find out.

ducatilover

4th May 2011, 19:54

Just to allay people's fears, sex wasn't the original sin at all, of course. That's another myth...

:Offtopic:

Back on topic... :yes:
Nor was prostitution the first profession :yes:

The Stranger

4th May 2011, 23:08

I was thinking the same thing. If she's a primary school teacher who cares the kids won't be looking.

If she's a secondary school teacher then that's a bit dodgey.

My std 4 teacher was a hottie. Hate to admit to being this old, but mini skirts were in then. I spent most of that year trying check out what was at the top of those long legs.
Never did me any harm.

SMOKEU

5th May 2011, 00:28

I really should go back to school if she is my teacher

I did exactly that last year - the girls there are soooo hot. If only I knew back when I was 16 what I know now.....

The best thing is they looked up to me seeing I was about 4 years older than the rest of them. Oh, and there was no uniform at that school either. I had the time of my life.

nadroj

5th May 2011, 09:14

my std 4 teacher was a hottie. Hate to admit to being this old, but mini skirts were in then. I spent most of that year trying check out what was at the top of those long legs.
never did me any harm.

iyho......

jazfender

5th May 2011, 20:58

I also think it would be wrong of her to expect any modicum of respect from her students if they were to find out.

I disagree, the students or anyone should still respect her as a teacher and a person. Shit, there isn't much reason to disrespect her for working in the adult industry either these days.

Gubb

5th May 2011, 23:38

I did exactly that last year - the girls there are soooo hot. If only I knew back when I was 16 what I know now.....
Always take your shirt off when you fight?

ducatilover

6th May 2011, 01:05

Always take your shirt off when you fight?
Take their shirt off and use it as a gag?

:corn:

SMOKEU

6th May 2011, 11:42

Take their shirt off and use it as a gag?

:corn:

You're onto it.

avgas

6th May 2011, 12:26

Nor was prostitution the first profession :yes:
Yeah I am thinking Interior decorator would have been

BoristheBiter

6th May 2011, 13:16

Yeah I am thinking Interior decorator would have been

I can just see it now,

on the front of this we will put a thing called a door, and cover the outside in mud, it's all the rage this year.

ducatilover

6th May 2011, 15:03

You're onto it.
Practise practise practise.....:rockon:

Yeah I am thinking Interior decorator would have been

I can just see it now,

on the front of this we will put a thing called a door, and cover the outside in mud, it's all the rage this year.

Earlier, "see ugh cave?"
"Yup"
"Me scratch fuckin' ugh pictures all up it"

"Ugh, your loin cloth is ugh short"

BoristheBiter

6th May 2011, 16:07

Earlier, "see ugh cave?"
"Yup"
"Me scratch fuckin' ugh pictures all up it"

"Ugh, your loin cloth is ugh short"

So fashion designer came first then.
"ugh mw got cold willy:
"put this snake skin on"
"ugh me look cool"

ducatilover

6th May 2011, 17:10

So fashion designer came first then.
"ugh mw got cold willy:
"put this snake skin on"
"ugh me look cool"

Nope, sales man,
"Ugh me be a hungry cave bitch"

And in came the Serpent....

AllanB

6th May 2011, 17:19

Nope, sales man,
"Ugh me be a hungry cave bitch"

And in came the Serpent....

Yeah but he was hungry for sex and a cave woman prostitute spread her legs for a new fir skin .............

Actually back then she would most likely have got on all fours and offered up her rear - animal style. Basic survival position too for a cave man as he is already standing and can run very quickly if a grizzly bear or similar wants a piece too.

ducatilover

6th May 2011, 17:23

Yeah but he was hungry for sex and a cave woman prostitute spread her legs for a new fir skin .............

Actually back then she would most likely have got on all fours and offered up her rear - animal style. Basic survival position too for a cave man as he is already standing and can run very quickly if a grizzly bear or similar wants a piece too.
I think the best thing here is for me to conduct a private study of my reactions whilst copulating in several positions.

She didn't want the covering of her bits and bobs until after the forbidden fruit was eaten, ask Edbear.
Or Slofox, he was probably there.