Driving age

[SpankMe]

Make it 18 and allow 16 & 17 year olds to ride 50cc bikes or scooters.

It will teach everyone a sense of vulnerability on the roads, make people more likely to take up two wheels later in life & the small number of idiots will kill them selfs off (and nobody else) before they are put in charge of a large powerful vehicle.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/4962987/Parliament-to-vote-on-driving-age-legislation

[Scuba_Steve]

Make it 18 and allow 16 & 17 year olds to ride 50cc bikes or scooters.

It will teach everyone a sense of vulnerability on the roads, make people more likely to take up two wheels later in life & the small number of idiots will kill them selfs off (and nobody else) before they are put in charge of a large powerful vehicle.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/4962987/Parliament-to-vote-on-driving-age-legislation

Nope keep it as it is, short of making it mid 20's a change of age isn't going to achieve anything, We're better off making the learners period 2-wheels the restricted in a car like the learners is currently & full licence must involve a merge where any failure to do so properly is instant fail :yes:

[Str8 Jacket]

Make it 18 and allow 16 & 17 year olds to ride 50cc bikes or scooters.

It will teach everyone a sense of vulnerability on the roads, make people more likely to take up two wheels later in life & the small number of idiots will kill them selfs off (and nobody else) before they are put in charge of a large powerful vehicle.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/4962987/Parliament-to-vote-on-driving-age-legislation

Yep, I have always said that I believe that people should have to ride a scooter/ small bike for at least 6 months before they can drive a cage for the same reasoning.....

[Whynot]

All good ideas, but it doesn't change the fact that 90% of the bad driving i see on a daily basis is from people that already have a license.

[Str8 Jacket]

All good ideas, but it doesn't change the fact that 90% of the bad driving i see on a daily basis is from people that already have a license.

We can't easily change the habits of current road users but we have the ability to stop generations of dip-shits emerging on our roads in the future, surely?!

[marty]

we need solutions, not whinging.

[oneofsix]

They are tinkering with the wrong bit. Yes you can get a license at 15 a license to sit in the drivers position with someone else on a full license for at least 2 years beside you and with the real responsibility for what the learner does. Most of the F'ups happen when they are on their restricted, by themselves, or illegally with friends, but either way without the guidance of the fully licensed driver. So why not set a minimum age to progress to the restricted if it is a maturity thing? There is a maturity difference between 15 and 17 but I think they are mature enough at 15 to learn buit not to be left to drive on their own, talking majority here not fickwits which seem to exsist no matter what the age.

[willytheekid]

Raise it !

Here is the legal driving ages in various countries around the world:

- Canada: 18 (was just recently changed from 16)

- Russia: 18

- China: 18

- India: 18

- Japan: 18

- New Zealand: 15 !!

- Ethiopia: 14 !!

- Cyprus: 18

- Europe: 18

- the UK is 17, but considering an increase to 18 years of age

Here's a fact- The human brain is not yet fully developed until the approx age of 25yrs old....yet we allow these kids to have access to "legal" drugs, alcohol and motor vehicles...years before they actually have the mental capacity to actually make informed and "adult" decisions.
Hence we now have a major bing drinking problem within NZs youth, and some of the highest rates of youth motor vehicle accidents in the developed world, and as reported by some studys, a rapidly dropping average IQ within the countrys youth.
So whats next?...give them guns to speed the "kill yourself & those around you" process up?...or start using some common sense and begin to "rein" the youth in until they have actually matured enough to handle the above.....or just keep bending to there childish whims and wants - and keep paying for it via increased taxes, rules or road tolls....its your call...not theres!

[short-circuit]

we need solutions, not whinging.

You are in the wrong place on both counts then

[bogan]

It is good to see they are strengthening the restricted test. Raising the age simply means you get slightly older useless drivers. Test the fuck out of all new drivers with off the road handling and hazard avoidance stuff and it'll lead to better drivers.

[Laava]

Yep, I have always said that I believe that people should have to ride a scooter/ small bike for at least 6 months before they can drive a cage for the same reasoning.....

Seems like a good idea but if you were a solo mum with 3 kids who only gets her license out of necessity then it ain't gonna work is it?

[oneofsix]

It is good to see they are strengthening the restricted test. Raising the age simply means you get slightly older useless drivers. Test the fuck out of all new drivers with off the road handling and hazard avoidance stuff and it'll lead to better drivers.

The restricted test should be the full test. After the restricted test who is there along side them to teach them, they need to know how to drive before getting the restricted. The full test should be the lighter test of the two and should be focused on do they drive safely and are their driving habits been maintained to a good standard.

[Str8 Jacket]

Seems like a good idea but if you were a solo mum with 3 kids who only gets her license out of necessity then it ain't gonna work is it?

One would ask how a solo mother can legally drive round with those three kids in her car on a learners licence?

[Oblivion]

It is good to see they are strengthening the restricted test. Raising the age simply means you get slightly older useless drivers. Test the fuck out of all new drivers with off the road handling and hazard avoidance stuff and it'll lead to better drivers.

I reckon that the defensive driving course should be alot similar to the Police driver training, where they learn how to control the car in all possible situations. Except at speed. Scrap that part. :yes:

[Scuba_Steve]

I reckon that the defensive driving course should be alot similar to the Police driver training, where they learn how to control the car in all possible situations. Except at speed. Scrap that part. :yes:

& then everyone will know how to pull dangerous U-turns in-front of bikes :innocent:

[Oblivion]

& then everyone will know how to pull dangerous U-turns in-front of bikes :innocent:

And eat donuts instead of working :blink:

[Devil]

I still think they're missing the actual issue. Training. Compulsory practical and theory training for driving. Being of a certain age doesn't automatically give you the skills to drive. They need to be taught and taught properly.

[superman]

Yay going to 16 August 1st. Good on ya government, that'll stop those damn 15.5 year olds going out in their cars on their restricted and having underage sex! :lol:

Or whatever the government were trying to achieve. :facepalm:

[superman]

I still think they're missing the actual issue. Training. Compulsory practical and theory training for driving. Being of a certain age doesn't automatically give you the skills to drive. They need to be taught and taught properly.


Fresh off the press, looks promising!

"To encourage 120 hours of supervised driving in the Learner licence stage, Restricted licence on-road driving tests will be made more difficult. Young drivers are most at risk when they first drive solo (without supervision). Supervised driving practice in the Learner licence phase reduces this risk by helping young drivers gain experience in common situations. Research suggests that crash rates among young drivers who have completed around 120 hours of supervised driving practice may be up to 40% lower than for young drivers who have completed around 50 hours once they start driving solo. The new tests are likely to be implemented in February 2012."

[awayatc]

seems like a good idea but if you were a solo mum with 3 kids who only gets her license out of necessity then it ain't gonna work is it?

wtf........?